Naughty Dog claimed to only use 50% of their power on UC3 = Failures of devs

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#51 iamrob7
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It's called marketing and they are lying to you. Obviously they didn't only use 50%, they are just trying to find a way to sell the next game.

This is much the same as Crytek saying Crysis would look better on the Xbox than the PC. Obviously a complete lie which was later demonstrated to be completely ludicrous. They said it to publicise the game, fans believe it becxause they want to think their platform is the better.

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#52 BibiMaghoo
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Tc cannot read confirmed. Failure in basic understanding of words.......
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#53 rogerjak
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So much fail! I hope the other 50% is working on a new Jak & Daxter ^^

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#54 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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lol more PR bullsh!t from Naughty Dog. They always say crap like this. TLoU will probably only use 80% of the PS3 or something.

Why even go to next gen yet when devs can't fully utilise the current gens properly. At least when the PS2 was finished Shadow of the Colossus and God of War II really pushed it to it's limit

EDIT: wait I actually read the article now. I just went off the thread title before

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#55 lowkey254
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2 seperate teams =/= 50%. It could be 70% 30% for all we know. You should now read my sig.

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#56 KiZZo1
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I am ready for cow tears to pour like they do in all my topics... well not all sheep gotta cry too.Banjo_Kongfooie

Ever heard of tears of laughter?

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#57 immortality20
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Wow is that ever a bad argument from the TC. Just...so...bias. With no real information, other than a seasoned and awesome developer saying the PS3 could produce even more powerful games. I doubt anyone can get 100% of the Ps3 working, the cell is just too complex. Not in a good way, that's for sure.

Comparing Gears to Uncharted is definitly like comparing apples to oranges. I hate when people compare to genres that are not at all alike.

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#58 CajunShooter
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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"] Naughty Dog are the ones trolling, they put a half assed effort in Uncharted 3. .

Well then how does it make you feel knowing Naughty Dog giving a "half assed effort" and still providing a game better than 99% of the games on the 360?
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#59 immortality20
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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"] Naughty Dog are the ones trolling, they put a half assed effort in Uncharted 3. .CajunShooter
Well then how does it make you feel knowing Naughty Dog giving a "half assed effort" and still providing a game better than 99% of the games on the 360?

That is a gross overstatement. Uncharted 3 is the worst in the series, and you and I both know there is lots of great games on the 360. UC3 is still good though, cause it's an awesome series, so being the worst in it had to happen to one of them. There is tons of games rated better or the same as UC3.

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#60 Mozelleple112
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Nice sig.

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Thanks, it symbolizes the shift in the tides of system wars... We are storming the beaches now. The Ides of March are coming. I am ready for cow tears to pour like they do in all my topics... well not all sheep gotta cry too.

How's that 5.0 game and lack of exclusives doing eh?
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#61 BibiMaghoo
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Wow is that ever a bad argument from the TC. Just...so...bias. With no real information, other than a seasoned and awesome developer saying the PS3 could produce even more powerful games. I doubt anyone can get 100% of the Ps3 working, the cell is just too complex. Not in a good way, that's for sure.

Comparing Gears to Uncharted is definitly like comparing apples to oranges. I hate when people compare to genres that are not at all alike.

immortality20
To be fair, they are both third person cover based shooters with an emphasis on narrative. Uc just has platforming sections that makes it any different.
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#62 hoola
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They only used 50% of their developers on UC3? I guess that just shows how awesome ND really are to be able to use 50% of their employees and still make a great game.

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#63 Eddie-Vedder
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So w8 a min. All it took was 50% to completely destroy anything the 360 is capable of pulling off? Hot damn.

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#64 Chrome-
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They've been saying this for years now but we a all know that U2 maxed out the PS3.
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#65 Ballroompirate
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The article just states that half of the ND team worked on The Last of Us while the other half worked on Uncharted 3.

Even if they did use half their team, that didn't stop the game from being both critically and commercially successful. And as far as console games are concerned, Uncharted 3 did things that other games (on consoles) haven't.

And your 50% = F idea is a load of rubbish.

If they can make a game with the technical level of Uncharted 3 using just half their team, that goes to show how talented the devs are.

fend_oblivion

Pretty much spot on, sadly most people can't give credit to ND or UC3 for what that they do. Even I despise Valve, but I will give them credit for steam and the L4D series (seems like no one has done co-op games in a while as good as L4D did this gen besides Geow and maybe 1 or 2 other games).

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#67 DualShockFore
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lol more PR bullsh!t from Naughty Dog. They always say crap like this. TLoU will probably only use 80% of the PS3 or something.

Why even go to next gen yet when devs can't fully utilise the current gens properly. At least when the PS2 was finished Shadow of the Colossus and God of War II really pushed it to it's limit

EDIT: wait I actually read the article now. I just went off the thread title before

seanmcloughlin
Theis one Didn't read the article, or the thread.
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#68 SecretPolice
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Just w8 till they break outta dat Cell !! :shock: :twisted:

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#69 Ballroompirate
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

lol more PR bullsh!t from Naughty Dog. They always say crap like this. TLoU will probably only use 80% of the PS3 or something.

Why even go to next gen yet when devs can't fully utilise the current gens properly. At least when the PS2 was finished Shadow of the Colossus and God of War II really pushed it to it's limit

EDIT: wait I actually read the article now. I just went off the thread title before

DualShockFore

Theis one Didn't read the article, or the thread.

what did you expect from seanmcihateND.

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#70 PC360Wii
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Obligatory random percentages that mean nothing used as sources. fail.
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#71 Chico_L
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OP should use more of his powers to make a better topic. 50% doesnt cut it bro. You get an F today.

Also if Naughty Dog can make UC3 with 50% of their staff then they are doing something right.

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#72 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="DualShockFore"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

lol more PR bullsh!t from Naughty Dog. They always say crap like this. TLoU will probably only use 80% of the PS3 or something.

Why even go to next gen yet when devs can't fully utilise the current gens properly. At least when the PS2 was finished Shadow of the Colossus and God of War II really pushed it to it's limit

EDIT: wait I actually read the article now. I just went off the thread title before

Ballroompirate

Theis one Didn't read the article, or the thread.

what did you expect from seanmcihateND.

Hence my edit

Also Im sorry but Do I know you? Maybe you missed me hyping the last of us when the devs were being announced for it. And I was still hyping it and even said it is a good chance for GOTY AFTER I found out ND were on it.

I even said that they were doing some fantastic work on it from what I've read.

I just nkow that ND spout stupid percentages all the time for PR purposes. Doesn't mean I don't think they make good games. Uncharted 1 and 2 are some of my favourite games ever. U3 not so much. So please don't say I hate ND

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#73 fend_oblivion
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They've been saying this for years now but we a all know that U2 maxed out the PS3.Chrome-


You've got it wrong. Read the topic again.

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#74 Heil68
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And to think they produced an IP of the generation..truly astounding.
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Man:roll:

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BS = :lol:
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#78 Ballroompirate
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[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

[QUOTE="DualShockFore"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

lol more PR bullsh!t from Naughty Dog. They always say crap like this. TLoU will probably only use 80% of the PS3 or something.

Why even go to next gen yet when devs can't fully utilise the current gens properly. At least when the PS2 was finished Shadow of the Colossus and God of War II really pushed it to it's limit

EDIT: wait I actually read the article now. I just went off the thread title before

seanmcloughlin

Theis one Didn't read the article, or the thread.

what did you expect from seanmcihateND.

Hence my edit

Also Im sorry but Do I know you? Maybe you missed me hyping the last of us when the devs were being announced for it. And I was still hyping it and even said it is a good chance for GOTY AFTER I found out ND were on it.

I even said that they were doing some fantastic work on it from what I've read.

I just nkow that ND spout stupid percentages all the time for PR purposes. Doesn't mean I don't think they make good games. Uncharted 1 and 2 are some of my favourite games ever. U3 not so much. So please don't say I hate ND

Actually it seems you are pretty bipolar when it comes to anything related to ND. Yes you've claimed to like them, UC1 and UC2 (not so much UC3), and you've been pretty bipolar when it comes down to The Last Of Us (praising it and even bashing it at the same time?)

A quote from you on the thread of The Last Of Us when it was first announced/developed by ND

That explains the dip in Quality then that U3 got.

Also people will flock to this now just because ND are making it. Despite the fact that that trailer was generic as F**k and screamed cliches. Its just Uncharted meets I am Legend

seanmcloughlin

and theres a few other quotes of you saying it's just another cliche looking zombie game,though you did point out you would like a survival type I am Legend game with open world. Oh and the whole entire sig you had of the last of us, what did it say? I forgot (actually I remember it just seeing if you admit to saying what it said).

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#79 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

50% is an F, eh?

I don't have much experience in such things, but I'll take your word for it since I'm sure you're an expert.

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Anything bellow 60% is a F and it is absurd... They did not run out of letters and it seems unfair... Why group such a diverse score range together. 59-50 E 49-40 F 39-30 G 29-20 H 19-10 I 9-0 J (well probably 9-1 ) 0 is nothing. It sucks they skip a ****ing letter. So yes Uncharted would get a F and an E under my system.

isn't the a/b/c/d/f system from schools? if your only retaining 50% of the material you shouldn't pass... With that said when looking at a hardware platform, stating that your using 50% is kind of senseless. 50% of what? 50% of the memory, 50% of the cpu? if it is the cpu why only 50%? is there a problem with utilization because of bottlenecks elsewhere or are you trying to do something on the processor that inneffient. The memory management on ps3 could easily cause under utilization on ps3... i'd expect no one can reach to 100% unless they can fit all of their code into 256kb of cache and have enough room to work directly out of that cache per spe. Otherwise having to swap tasks stalls the spe while loading it with a new process.
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#80 Basinboy
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Nice sig.

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Thanks, it symbolizes the shift in the tides of system wars... We are storming the beaches now. The Ides of March are coming. I am ready for cow tears to pour like they do in all my topics... well not all sheep gotta cry too.

Looking at the timestamp of this post, the ides of March are a full 332 days from now. Can't wait. :|
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#81 Big_Pecks
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I guess they're only using 5% on the Last of Us then.

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#83 Javos_25
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Well then they obviously proved that they don't need a full development team to create a great game. This works out better because they can now work on two titles at a time, and judging by Uncharted 3, maintain a high level of quality.
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#84 RandomWinner
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I think they mean 50% of their team was not working on the game...

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#85 crusadernm
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I guess they're only using 5% on the Last of Us then.

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lol

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

Hence my edit

Also Im sorry but Do I know you? Maybe you missed me hyping the last of us when the devs were being announced for it. And I was still hyping it and even said it is a good chance for GOTY AFTER I found out ND were on it.

I even said that they were doing some fantastic work on it from what I've read.

I just nkow that ND spout stupid percentages all the time for PR purposes. Doesn't mean I don't think they make good games. Uncharted 1 and 2 are some of my favourite games ever. U3 not so much. So please don't say I hate ND

Ballroompirate

Actually it seems you are pretty bipolar when it comes to anything related to ND. Yes you've claimed to like them, UC1 and UC2 (not so much UC3), and you've been pretty bipolar when it comes down to The Last Of Us (praising it and even bashing it at the same time?)

A quote from you on the thread of The Last Of Us when it was first announced/developed by ND

That explains the dip in Quality then that U3 got.

Also people will flock to this now just because ND are making it. Despite the fact that that trailer was generic as F**k and screamed cliches. Its just Uncharted meets I am Legend

seanmcloughlin

and theres a few other quotes of you saying it's just another cliche looking zombie game,though you did point out you would like a survival type I am Legend game with open world. Oh and the whole entire sig you had of the last of us, what did it say? I forgot (actually I remember it just seeing if you admit to saying what it said).

Lol that does seem pretty bipolar actually. But I said those things about TLoU before I read any info on it. I still think the trailer made it look generic and like any other zombie game. The info after that was what made me hype it. Which like you said is leaning more toward a survival game and not action which I feared.

And I have always stood by the fact that U3 isn't as good as the others. My stances on that have always been the same

Did you search back to find quotes from me? :P that's dedication, im flattered
EDIT: oh and my sig was harmless poking fun before I wasn't digging at the game or anything. It said they were popcorn heads. Which they are let's be honest :P

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#87 ShadowMoses900
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Umm....that's not what they said, why don't you use reading comprehension? Over the course of making Uncharted 3 ND sent half of their staff to go work on The Last of US, and considering Uncharted 3 was still a great game despite having half the staff work on it is testament to how skilled ND is.

They are easily the most talented dev this gen, and when The Last of Us comes out your going to see the product of that great talent again. Oh and btw Gears isn't anything like Uncharted, aside from 3rd person shooting they have NOTHING in common! Even their cover/shoot gameplay mechanics is different.

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#88 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Umm....that's not what they said, why don't you use reading comprehension? Over the course of making Uncharted 3 ND sent half of their staff to go work on The Last of US, and considering Uncharted 3 was still a great game despite having half the staff work on it is testament to how skilled ND is.

They are easily the most talented dev this gen, and when The Last of Us comes out your going to see the product of that great talent again. Oh and btw Gears isn't anything like Uncharted, aside from 3rd person shooting they have NOTHING in common! Even their cover/shoot gameplay mechanics is different.

ShadowMoses900

I still have to give my best dev this gen award to eithe Rocksteady or CD projekt red.

And also yes most comparisons are pretty dumb. They just compare cos they are both the third game and went up against each other around the same time kind of. They just needed to pit something against the other. Look at another one Skyrim and Skyward Sword. Just cos they release around the same time and both have sky in their names. MW3 and BF3 maybe but the rest are usually stupid

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360 fans are really jelly of naughty dog.
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#90 ocidax
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Sony only need to change the case of the ps3 and put the ps4 name on it, to compete in the next gen. thats the power of the cell, uajajajaja

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#91 topgunmv
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I don't know whats worse, that the tc obviously didn't read the article he linked (or did and is borderline illiterate) or that half the people replying didn't either.

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#92 Labavo
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One time I only put 50% of my effort into a paper and still managed to get an A+.
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#93 goblaa
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What if going all 100% was simply unreasonable? What if it would had cost them twice the man power, time and money? They would loose money on the game.