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#1 BURSTIIIFIRE
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Ok those are not the exact quotes but they did say in an interview at GDC that they look up to KZ2 and look at it "as an inspiration to what we can do". They stated that KZ2 deserved the Best Technology award at GDC. I personally think Uncharted 2is more advanced thanKZ2...maybe these guys are just being modest.

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i always thought kz2 was the most advanced game on the ps3. turns out naught dog agrees.
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Killzone 2 is the true console graphics king in my eyes.
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#4 enterawesome
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Uncharted 2 looks better, it's just Naughty Dog being modest... again.
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Yeah I always said that KZ2 was tech better in graphix than U2 but since Uncharted 2 is the pretty one out of the two, everyone says that U2 is better
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Ok those are not the exact quotes but they did say in an interview at GDC that they look up to KZ2 and look at it "as an inspiration to what we can do". They stated that KZ2 deserved the Best Technology award at GDC. I personally think Uncharted 2 looks way better than KZ2...maybe these guys are just being modest.

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How a game looks doesn't necessarily have a lot to do with the quality of the tech.

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I never thought that KZ2 lost its crown. Although UC2 is more pleasing to the eye.

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#8 MC3887
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Honestly expected. KZ2 is doing way more, had more money put into it, and more devs. It is just UC2 has EVEN more linear/small places than KZ2, I feel bad for GG.

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#9 SolidTy
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I always have given the edge to KZ2, but Uncharted 2 is more colorful.

Still, Both are just absolute gorgeous games.

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#10 BURSTIIIFIRE
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[QUOTE="BURSTIIIFIRE"]

Ok those are not the exact quotes but they did say in an interview at GDC that they look up to KZ2 and look at it "as an inspiration to what we can do". They stated that KZ2 deserved the Best Technology award at GDC. I personally think Uncharted 2 looks way better than KZ2...maybe these guys are just being modest.

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How a game looks doesn't necessarily have a lot to do with the quality of the tech.

Well KZ2 was mostly very linear, even more than UC2. Also the draw distance in some of the lvls in UC2 is way better than KZ2...is that not technical?

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#11 MC3887
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

[QUOTE="BURSTIIIFIRE"]

Ok those are not the exact quotes but they did say in an interview at GDC that they look up to KZ2 and look at it "as an inspiration to what we can do". They stated that KZ2 deserved the Best Technology award at GDC. I personally think Uncharted 2 looks way better than KZ2...maybe these guys are just being modest.

BURSTIIIFIRE



How a game looks doesn't necessarily have a lot to do with the quality of the tech.

Well KZ2 was mostly very linear, even more than UC2. Also the draw distance in some of the lvls in UC2 is way better than KZ2...is that not technical?

I find it would be nearly impossible to be more linear than UC2. It has nice vistas.

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i just got the game there recently. its definately am inpessive technical feet. it throws around alot of special effects and still keeps a steady framerate. its a bit glitchy though in places. the physics that kicks in then an enemy dies does some odd stuff on the rare occasion and sometimes sounds repeats themselves like a broken record for a few seconds. but yeah overall..kudos to the dev. ive only played the demo of uncharted 2 though so i cant really say which is best in the graphics arena (though U2 is definately nicer to look at imho).
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If you think UC2 looks way better then KZ2 you don't own both games.

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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

[QUOTE="BURSTIIIFIRE"]

Ok those are not the exact quotes but they did say in an interview at GDC that they look up to KZ2 and look at it "as an inspiration to what we can do". They stated that KZ2 deserved the Best Technology award at GDC. I personally think Uncharted 2 looks way better than KZ2...maybe these guys are just being modest.

BURSTIIIFIRE



How a game looks doesn't necessarily have a lot to do with the quality of the tech.

Well KZ2 was mostly very linear, even more than UC2. Also the draw distance in some of the lvls in UC2 is way better than KZ2...is that not technical?

kz2 has impressive volumetric effects for smoke and explosions and much better physics and lighting than uncharted2.

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#15 BURSTIIIFIRE
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If you think UC2 looks way better then KZ2 you don't own both games.

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#16 Elian2530
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Yeah I always said that KZ2 was tech better in graphix than U2 but since Uncharted 2 is the pretty one out of the two, everyone says that U2 is betterRTUUMM
I think you hit it right on the nail there. Couldn't have said it better myself. If Naughty Dog acknowledges the technical achievement that is Killzone 2, then we all should too. They're not being modest, they're stating the obvious truth. They're also acknowledging other best efforts, and giving credit where credit is due. It's called respect.
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KZ2 facial animations aren't nearly as good as U2's, especially the in-game non-scripted scenes.

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#18 Revolution316
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killzone 2 is more advanced/high tech then uncharted 2. the lighting, the explosions, the physics are all better then uncharted 2. uncharted 2 is just highly detailed. thats it. killzone 2 is more advanced

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In terms of pure tech, Kz2 **** all over UC2 and any other game not named Crysis. UC2 though has better animation, character models and dynamic set pieces.

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#20 Couth_
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

[QUOTE="BURSTIIIFIRE"]

Ok those are not the exact quotes but they did say in an interview at GDC that they look up to KZ2 and look at it "as an inspiration to what we can do". They stated that KZ2 deserved the Best Technology award at GDC. I personally think Uncharted 2 looks way better than KZ2...maybe these guys are just being modest.

BURSTIIIFIRE



How a game looks doesn't necessarily have a lot to do with the quality of the tech.

Well KZ2 was mostly very linear, even more than UC2. Also the draw distance in some of the lvls in UC2 is way better than KZ2...is that not technical?

It is but that doesn't really have anything to do with what Teuf said.

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But only one of them is actually a good game.
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#22 MC3887
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In terms of pure tech, Kz2 **** all over UC2 and any other game not named Crysis. UC2 though has better animation, character models and dynamic set pieces.

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On consoles right? because ARMA and others. Anyway GTA4 on consoles was/is tech king when KZ2 was/wasn't out. I think it is between those two. For photorealism on consoles that goes to mirrior's egde.

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#23 Ace6301
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Tech wise yeah KZ2 is better. Visual wise I would easily give it to UC2. I hated the art style of Gears of War and I hate the art style of KZ2. Things just look better when they are well lit and bright.
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I think U2 was much more impressive than KZ2 :?
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kz2 has impressive volumetric effects for smoke and explosions and much better physics and lighting than uncharted2.

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Yeah, that was pretty sweet looking.

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KZ2 facial animations aren't nearly as good as U2's, especially the in-game non-scripted scenes.

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True but I cant think of a single game that comes close to Jak or Uncharted as far as facial animations go.

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

KZ2 facial animations aren't nearly as good as U2's, especially the in-game non-scripted scenes.

emorainbo

True but I cant think of a single game that comes close to Jak or Uncharted as far as facial animations go.

Half-life two?

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[QUOTE="emorainbo"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

KZ2 facial animations aren't nearly as good as U2's, especially the in-game non-scripted scenes.

MC3887

True but I cant think of a single game that comes close to Jak or Uncharted as far as facial animations go.

Half-life two?

Alyx had such amazing animations in-game (not just during more scripted scenes).

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#29 enterawesome
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If you think UC2 looks way better then KZ2 you don't own both games.

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Oh I do, and I think Uncharted 2 looks better. Killzone 2 certainly has some really incredible lighting effects and AI, but Uncharted 2 is better in every other category, IMO. They both look drop-dead gorgeous, but Uncharted 2 slightly more so. Plus, Uncharted 2 gave me a lot more jaw dropping moments than Killzone 2 did.
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KZ2 is flat out more impressive. UC2 is pretty and shiney......but it's still very video game like. KZ2 I can totally lose myself in. It's pretty amazing.

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But only one of them is actually a good game. SAGE_OF_FIRE
True indeed. Killzone 2 is a really good game, whereas Uncharted 2 is damn near perfect. ;)
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[QUOTE="emorainbo"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

KZ2 facial animations aren't nearly as good as U2's, especially the in-game non-scripted scenes.

MC3887

True but I cant think of a single game that comes close to Jak or Uncharted as far as facial animations go.

Half-life two?

Yeah that ones really good but whenever they talk they look like their jaws move on door hinges.

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and god of war 3 sh**s on both of them
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#34 RTUUMM
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[QUOTE="emorainbo"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

KZ2 facial animations aren't nearly as good as U2's, especially the in-game non-scripted scenes.

True but I cant think of a single game that comes close to Jak or Uncharted as far as facial animations go.

Then you havent played HEAVENLY SWORD
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#35 MC3887
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

If you think UC2 looks way better then KZ2 you don't own both games.

enterawesome

Oh I do, and I think Uncharted 2 looks better. Killzone 2 certainly has some really incredible lighting effects and AI, but Uncharted 2 is better in every other category, IMO. They both look drop-dead gorgeous, but Uncharted 2 slightly more so. Plus, Uncharted 2 gave me a lot more jaw dropping moments than Killzone 2 did.

More scripted events?

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#36 enterawesome
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and god of war 3 sh**s on both of themsora16perfect
Probably. However, Uncharted 2 has superior character models. Kratos himself is the most detailed charatcer model ever, indeed, but from what I've seen the others aren't nearly as good looking, from a technical standpoint. Uncharted 2 has consitsency going for it in that regard.
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[QUOTE="emorainbo"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

KZ2 facial animations aren't nearly as good as U2's, especially the in-game non-scripted scenes.

RTUUMM

True but I cant think of a single game that comes close to Jak or Uncharted as far as facial animations go.

Then you havent played HEAVENLY SWORD

Ahh yes I have I just forgot :P I

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[QUOTE="sora16perfect"]and god of war 3 sh**s on both of thementerawesome
Probably. However, Uncharted 2 has superior character models. Kratos himself is the most detailed charatcer model ever, indeed, but from what I've seen the others aren't nearly as good looking, from a technical standpoint. Uncharted 2 has consitsency going for it in that regard.

I don't think so. GOW3 has bad ground textures, but SM is good at hiding them(more power to them). Also so slightly low poly terrain, look at the rock etc, but they make it work because the edges look natural.

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[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]But only one of them is actually a good game. enterawesome
True indeed. Killzone 2 is a really good game, whereas Uncharted 2 is damn near perfect. ;)

Which is reflected in thier online communities.
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[QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]But only one of them is actually a good game. mtmatt
True indeed. Killzone 2 is a really good game, whereas Uncharted 2 is damn near perfect. ;)

Which is reflected in thier online communities.

How so?
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It actually does have better tech. The scale is a lot larger in Killzone 2 and there's a lot more going on. Uncharted 2's visuals blew me away but the only technical aspect that got me was the train sequence when it's all moving and the caravan near the end when you have to get to Chloe in the front car.
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[QUOTE="mtmatt"][QUOTE="enterawesome"]True indeed. Killzone 2 is a really good game, whereas Uncharted 2 is damn near perfect. ;) enterawesome
Which is reflected in thier online communities.

How so?

Dont be coy. you can entice anyone into purchasing a game but you cant get them to continue playing it if it's nothing special.
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I dunno, I just felt Uncharted 2's visuals to be more...welcoming. Not a fan of drab colors like those in KZ2 and Gears of War games.
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#44 enterawesome
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[QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="mtmatt"] Which is reflected in thier online communities.mtmatt
How so?

Dont be coy. you can entice anyone into purchasing a game but you cant get them to continue playing it if it's nothing special.

Chill out there, mate, I was being serious. I didn't know what you were implying there. I almost though it was a shot at me currently playing Killzone 2, as said in my sig. :P
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Killzone 2 is the true console graphics king in my eyes.TheGrat1
Agreed.
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#46 mtmatt
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[QUOTE="mtmatt"][QUOTE="enterawesome"]How so?enterawesome
Dont be coy. you can entice anyone into purchasing a game but you cant get them to continue playing it if it's nothing special.

Chill out there, mate, I was being serious. I didn't know what you were implying there. I almost though it was a shot at me currently playing Killzone 2, as said in my sig. :P

Extra awsome sauce. I apologise.
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#47 MC3887
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Question to SW: Do we have a graphics king for consoles then? I mean we are now comparing technical merits and not visual acuity. When it comes to technicals, I think a couple games stand up to KZ2.

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Modesty is the best quality:D

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I always thought Killzone 2 looked better than Uncharted 2. Both look amazing but I'm not into the darker looking graphics than I am vibrant colors. Plus the dynamic lighting in Killzone 2 is outstanding

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But only one of them is actually a good game. SAGE_OF_FIRE
Killzone 2, aside from BFBC2 is the best shooter i have played on next gen consoles. Halo 3 was a bouncing joke and MW is a newbs delight. Killzone 2 was an 7/10 campaign and a 9/10 multiplayer.