Naughty Dog 'Terrified' by PlayStation 4

[QUOTE="brucecambell"]

IS anybody else not the excited for a new console? Think about this. In the ps2/xbox era games only took one year to be completed

In this generation every game takes 2 years to be completed. Games as they evolve only take more & more time. If you want to see better games & better visuals then more time will be need

Next generation games will take 3 years to be completed. Didnt anybody else realize this. We wont see anything from the Uncharted 3 team for at least 3 years & then 3 years after that

Every dev is going to be releasing one game every 3 years.

The library of games for each generation gets significantly smaller. For the 1st few years of all the new consoles there wont be much if anything to play.

Oh BTW some games like Elder scrolls Skyrim take 3 years as of right now. Next gen a game like fallout 4 could take 4 years. If Fallout 4 is released on next gen system i gurantee we wont be seeing anything from bethesda for another 4 years. Im calling it right now.

HaloinventedFPS

better graphics doesnt mean it takes longer to make the game

most of that stuff is handled by the engine

there wont be a problem making games next gen, PC is allready in next gen with a few games

Im not saying better graphics. Im saying with each generation comes more complexity. Games are evolving & getting better. In order to make better games you need more time. Simple as that. Thats why the length in which games are made get lengthened with each generation. & graphics do slow down game development BTW

Next gen games will be made in no less than 3 years.

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

[QUOTE="brucecambell"]

IS anybody else not the excited for a new console? Think about this. In the ps2/xbox era games only took one year to be completed

In this generation every game takes 2 years to be completed. Games as they evolve only take more & more time. If you want to see better games & better visuals then more time will be need

Next generation games will take 3 years to be completed. Didnt anybody else realize this. We wont see anything from the Uncharted 3 team for at least 3 years & then 3 years after that

Every dev is going to be releasing one game every 3 years.

The library of games for each generation gets significantly smaller. For the 1st few years of all the new consoles there wont be much if anything to play.

Oh BTW some games like Elder scrolls Skyrim take 3 years as of right now. Next gen a game like fallout 4 could take 4 years. If Fallout 4 is released on next gen system i gurantee we wont be seeing anything from bethesda for another 4 years. Im calling it right now.

brucecambell

better graphics doesnt mean it takes longer to make the game

most of that stuff is handled by the engine

there wont be a problem making games next gen, PC is allready in next gen with a few games

Im not saying better graphics. Im saying with each generation comes more complexity. Games are evolving & getting better. In order to make better games you need more time. Simple as that. Thats why the length in which games are made get lengthened with each generation. & graphics do slow down game development BTW

Next gen games will be made in no less than 3 years.

nah, they will become shorter if anything

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

if Sony waits for Nvidia's Maxwellgpu in 2013, then anything is possible.

nvidia'sMaxwell is going to be a complete new architecture with total new design.

HaloinventedFPS

doesnt matter, it will just gain a 10 maybe 20 percent boost, they change up the architecture and stuff all the time, AMD's new gpu's coming out late this month have a whole new cooling method, which will come in handy for the next xbox ;)

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

if Sony waits for Nvidia's Maxwellgpu in 2013, then anything is possible.

nvidia'sMaxwell is going to be a complete new architecture with total new design.

ZoomZoom2490

doesnt matter, it will just gain a 10 maybe 20 percent boost, they change up the architecture and stuff all the time, AMD's new gpu's coming out late this month have a whole new cooling method, which will come in handy for the next xbox ;)

im sure Nvidia are saying it will be oh so incredible, all lies

nah, they will become shorter if anything

HaloinventedFPS

Nope. You cant make better games & you cant experiment in game design without time. In game development time is everything. You could spend a lifetime on one game.

Development times will only get longer my friend. Game design is a long, trial & error, time consuming process.

Just another reason not to rush into the next generation. Current consoles are fine, we don't need more.meetroid8

Yes, we do. I'm still waiting on the 1080p @ 120fps 4D games Sony promised us in 2006. :roll:

I have faith in Naughty Dog. Every gen they make one of the best series of the gen. I'm sure it will be no different with the PS4. May Naughty Dog continue to live a long and prosperous life, and continue to produce excellent games.MingLeWinG

I know they will be fine, they are one of the most respectable developers in the industry, and has the $$ of Sony to support them.

I'm more worried about the other sonystudios, that are good, but not too good and they have terrible sells this gen.

So in English, they are saying the development process will take longer on the new system?bbkkristian

Not really, only that they are afraid because what happen to them in the PS2-PS3 transition.

Personally, I believe that everyone will be surprised by the development periods of next gen.

I think people seem to forget that this gen of consoles, namely the PS3 and 360, suffered from bottlenecks that surely hindered the development process for many developers. Of course, this is assuming that the next generation of consoles will be without such limitations and therefore I could be completely wrong. :P

Personally, I believe that everyone will be surprised by the development periods of next gen.

I think people seem to forget that this gen of consoles, namely the PS3 and 360, suffered from bottlenecks that surely hindered the development process for many developers. Of course, this is assuming that the next generation of consoles will be without such limitations and therefore I could be completely wrong. :P

metroid2004

That, and they create totally new engines for this gen, and now they already have some engines that are running "next gen" games already

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]So in English, they are saying the development process will take longer on the new system?Pelon208

Not really, only that they are afraid because what happen to them in the PS2-PS3 transition.

[QUOTE="Pelon208"]

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]So in English, they are saying the development process will take longer on the new system?bbkkristian

Not really, only that they are afraid because what happen to them in the PS2-PS3 transition.

I mean it must've been difficult to dig deep into the PS3's hardware, figure out it's secrets, decode it, etc. Especially if you only had 2 years to do it.

Sounds like those "Experienced" Administrators, completely unwilling to accept a change in their network because "it works", so nothing is allowed to be changed and soon enough you're running an ancient network that "just works" even though transfers are slow as hell and everyone in the building hates their very old workstations which use CRT's...

Technology moves on, if you don't like it then you're in the wrong job.

I think that kind of goes without saying. I mean, it's like starting over again from scratch. On the other hand, I don't see why a lot of what you already know wouldn't translate to new hardware, since every component will be more powerful than what you had previously.

I look forward to ND's next gen endeavors. They are an excellent developer.

[QUOTE="Pelon208"]

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]So in English, they are saying the development process will take longer on the new system?bbkkristian

Not really, only that they are afraid because what happen to them in the PS2-PS3 transition.

Looks like they where having lots of pressure, and some people couldn't handle that pressure and left ND, Like one person a week.

I'd be terrified too, if I was a software company and could only release it on one piece of hardware... and that hardware was made by Sony.

Sounds like those "Experienced" Administrators, completely unwilling to accept a change in their network because "it works", so nothing is allowed to be changed and soon enough you're running an ancient network that "just works" even though transfers are slow as hell and everyone in the building hates their very old workstations which use CRT's...

Technology moves on, if you don't like it then you're in the wrong job.

JohnF111

I know, it's kind of lame that ND (one of the most ambitious teams on the graphics and technology department) is saying this, I mean this should be good news for them, they are going to be able to do more cool stuff than before.

[QUOTE="magicalclick"]Just slap on UE4, everything is smooth selling like Mess Effect and many other games, except crappy Too Human.Tikeio

Knowing Epic, the engine will most likely have texture pop-in. So I say "nay."

Only thing terrifying is Naughty Dogs ego. soapandbubbles

Sony simply needs to make a machine thats easier to code for, thats something microsoft definitely got right this gen. Make a console easier to develop on with the right hardware and assets and game dev's want to make games for it.... hmmmm, imagine that.

I'm imagining ps4 running games of "the samaritan" graphical quality, remember it's still a couple years away.

z4twenny

No kidding, hopefully Sony just keeps the Cell with more power. Or preferably, ditches the Cell altogether for something much more friendly for third-party developers.

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"]Only thing terrifying is Naughty Dogs ego. JohnF111

Perhaps they had such a hard time transitioning from PS2 to PS3 was because of how incredibly complex and difficult it was to dev for the cell?

Maybe now Sony will play their cards right and have easier hardware to work with.

Perhaps they had such a hard time transitioning from PS2 to PS3 was because of how incredibly complex and difficult it was to dev for the cell?

Maybe now Sony will play their cards right and have easier hardware to work with.

commonfate

[QUOTE="commonfate"]

Perhaps they had such a hard time transitioning from PS2 to PS3 was because of how incredibly complex and difficult it was to dev for the cell?

Maybe now Sony will play their cards right and have easier hardware to work with.

soapandbubbles

I sure hope so. I'd hate to go another 2 years with a really expensive (albeit nice-looking) paperweight.

So basically, the article is pointless because it states that PS2 to PS3 was the same thing.

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"][QUOTE="commonfate"]

Perhaps they had such a hard time transitioning from PS2 to PS3 was because of how incredibly complex and difficult it was to dev for the cell?

Maybe now Sony will play their cards right and have easier hardware to work with.

commonfate

I sure hope so. I'd hate to go another 2 years with a really expensive (albeit nice-looking) paperweight.

Last of Us 2 confirmed.

This is coming from a developer who has a flood of money coming to them. Imagine what it's going to be like for the rest of the game development community.

We're already beyond the threshold where improvements in technology have managed to make a serious dent in console libraries.

Sometime during the PS4's lifespan, it's going to have a tablet controller

This is coming from a developer who has a flood of money coming to them. Imagine what it's going to be like for the rest of the game development community.

We're already beyond the threshold where improvements in technology have managed to make a serious dent in console libraries.

hakanakumono

Coming from the dev team that is known for cranking out all the juice from the system...Thata a little scary.

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

[QUOTE="Pelon208"]

I would prefer UC graphics with 4xAA at 1080p and 60 FPS

I know its not going to happen, but that would be cool

SPYDER0416

UC3 graphics are meh dude

if PS4 is strong enough, it can pull off Metro 2033 level graphics in 1080p/4xaa at 60fps

we shall see

Usually at the beginning of a generation is when the games are the strongest and prettiest for a console, Metal Gear Solid 2 was the single prettiest game on any platform in the year of 2001 (and also ran spectacularly smooth at 60fps if I remember right), and Gears was pretty much unmatched for a couple of years in pure beauty and power.

I think Metro 2033 at 1080p and 60fps should be childs play for consoles once the start of the next gen comes around, hopefully they don't neglect resolution and framerate just to go for a beefier game in graphics.

Coming from the dev team that is known for cranking out all the juice from the system...Thata a little scary.

eboyishere

Seems like the power of the cell is to big for even ND.

Seems like the power of the cell is to big for even ND.

razgriz_101