NEW Backward Compatibility patent filed Yesterday 02/21/2019 by Sony.

New Potential PS5 Backward Compatibility Patent Filed By Sony Tries To Emulate Bus Operation Of Legacy Devices

https://gearnuke.com/new-potential-ps5-backward-compatibility-patent-filed-by-sony-tries-to-emulate-bus-operation-of-legacy-devices/

This method of BC seems slightly different than MS's which requires each game to be individually coded to enhance performance and graphics.

This method appears to enhance games at a base operation level without the need to individually code each game. This would remove the need to limit the library of backward compatibility games based on man-hours and additional cost of resources.

Any fears or speculation that Sony would be forcing PS4 remasters on PS5 or trying to hide the BC games behind PSNow looks to be dead in the water.

Sony looks to be trying to re-establish what backward compatibility is supposed to be like. If they somehow manage to extend this feature to PS2 and PS3, you'd literally have to be a non-gamer to pass it by.

Here's to hoping it will be better than their pitiful efforts this gen.

Vert interesting.

If this is true, I'll buy PS5 at launch.

Old games aren't worth playing unless I'm forced to Rebuy them. Well, that's what I Herd!!! :P

Their efforts weren't pitiful they simply couldn't do it.

PS4's CPU was not powerful enough to emulate PS3 and the PS3 Cell tech was too expensive to put in PS4

If Sony does PS3 emulation on the PS5, be sure that the software will be ported to PC by moders. No emulation needed for PS4 games, of course, as these are built on same hardware/software as the PS5 will have.

Well if it didn’t have BC, theirs no chance in hell I would ever buy it. So far so good but I’ll believe it when I see it.

Sony loves the “remaster” money they’re raking in, no doubt

Thanks Microsoft!

It's true! :0

@sancho_panzer:

Gluttons for punishment I tellz ya.

lolol :P

Who wants to play old games?

Old games are cool now?

Gamers apparently, and so do I.

Not sure you know this or not but "old games" somehow didn't matter last gen to a certain demographic you're affiliated with.

It's cute to pretend MS has done something special this gen with their limited BC but let's pretend that Sony didn't have the best BC implementation generations before and actually was at 100%.

But I'm sure "old games" wont matter to you anymore once Sony shows how it's properly done.

Indeed

@sts106mat said:

New Delivery required

Xbox gamers are quite the flip floppers

But this isn't anything new. You guy are already preparing to flip flop.

New PS5 Backward Compatibility Patent Filed By Sony Tries To Emulate Bus Operation Of Legacy Devices.

I like the word (Tries), LOL

This would significantly improve my enthusiasm for the ps5.

BS

Sony didn't even try because they are charging you to play old games.

that doesn't mean that you wont have to buy the game again.

We'll see just how well things get "enhanced" by mere dumping the game into a future system without doing any modifications to the code or emulation settings. I would say these patents could lead to more accurate emulation without coding, but certainly not enhanced without tinkering.

In what way does this make SONY hiding behind remasters or PSNow dead in the water? IMO this would tie in perfectly to SONY's move to allow PS games to be downloaded from PSNow to play natively. This is no way dispels the notion that PSNow would still be required for older games.

I think the cell is still going to be too difficult for the PS5 CPU to be able to emulate well as well. The cell architecture is different enough due to originally be tasked as the GPU in the PS3(and needed more floating point power as a result). So I wouldn't hold your breath on PS3 emulation either.

Awww, Microsoft's actually going to have to rely on making new QUALITY games to get attention away from Sony instead of bragging about old games this time. Too bad. ?

With all the free Mighty X1X 4K BC and GP and megaton insta-hits sure to be viewed as classics and played for the next decade or two like Sea of mofo Thieves and Crackdown 3, my cup it runneth over.

Thank you MS, for the gamerzzz... Jazz. :P

Not surprised, the upside of having bc next gen is much higher than downsides for Sony

I was never too worried about them achieving BC on a technical level, I am more concerned about how they plan on carrying over digital rights and whether they'll honor PS3 user rights for PS1 and PS2 classics, PS4 too for that matter, nice they can take one aspect of BC publishing that's time consuming out of the picture, but I still imagine the publishing bit might still be a drag, like negotiating with publishers to make things available between platforms, this I imagine will be a time consuming endeavor, which is why I hope they hit the ground running next gen building up their BC catalog.

It would be a game collector's wet dream if the PS5 could play PS1-5 games all in one console!

I fully expect it to be BC with PS4 but if it adds PS1,2 and 3? That would be amazing.

Ps: look at my posting history I always wanted BC and it's the one thing Xbox has done right this gen.

I have 300 PS2 games and 180 PS3 games. I would love an all in one system with enhancements. The only thing stopping me at the moment from playing them is I don't have room to hook up all my systems.

Do you think there will be trophies?

If the trade off to having trophies is a limited BC solution like MS has then F that.

I prefer to have a complete collection of titles to choose from rather than a silly feature that really only amounts to saying "good job" for playing your own games.

Well I fully expect the PS5 will be backwards compatible with the PS4 but if they can also make it backwards compatible with the PS1, 2, and 3 then that will be fantastic. However as they say the proof is in the pudding so let’s see how this all pans out.

How can you even patent something like that. Sony didn't invent emulators.

meh cool for those who want it. I'm not going to buy a PS5 to play PS4 games I've already played. Don't have that kind of time anymore.

PS4 not having BC never bother me since I always keep my previous consoles and I bought PS4 to play new games, not going backwards. That said, I hope this happens for PS5 getting BC but for me, I'm happy with my PS4, there's still so much to do and will just remain with PC/Nintendo Switch from this point on.

Man, if this is true I'll be so pumped! Greatness Awaits lol

Will be getting a Ps5 but couldn't care less about BC.

Looking more and more likely that PS5 will dominate next gen.

"I don't buy new consoles to play old games" -said all cows
"Gamers don't care about BC, BC isn't needed" - Sony
"Rumble is last gen"settles lawsuit "meet next gen rumble" - Sony
"Online gaming should always be free" Sony starts charging "I'm ok with paying because Sony gives me free games" - all cows

Geez it's no wonder you're considered the clowns of SWs.

These consoles negate your argument.

PS3 had full BC with PS1 and PS2 (not emulation like XB1) last gen and no one from the Xbox camp was eager to buy one. What changed for you guys?

It's simple. Most gamers keep their consoles like PS2/PS3 so why even bother BC in the first place?

So you can now predict the future?

Ummm Sony been doing that since PS3 with it's PS+ which was just a loophole cause they couldn't cut off online for turning it into a paywall.

I was about ask you the same thing. You are a Joke!

It's always funny when people make the argument that they keep their old systems so they don't care for BC. ? Its almost as if they prefer to have more redundant junk laying around with 30 connector hdmi hub.???

^I still have my N64 to play Goldeneye cause it never got a port nor a remake. You should know, I'm also a Retro Gamer Pedro.

Regardless of what others say I enjoy playing old games that have received a proper face-lift. I'd love to see some older Rockstar titles be remastered or Legend of the Dragoon but that is doubtful...lol.

I'm a retro gamer as well but even then his argument doesn't make sense. If Sony had a long standing policy of no BC he would have a point but the PS4 is the only console Sony has made without BC. All their previous consoles had BC and even better BC than Xbox since they didn't do emulation but actually had hardware built into them specifically for BC. It's obvious the PS4 didn't have BC with PS3 because the CELL chip was impossible to emulate with the Jaguar inside the PS4. They also had PS Now making revenue for them and didn't want to jeopardize that but with digital libraries becoming a big part of this gen it's obvious that BC with PS5 will be important moving forward.

A lot of people with huge digital library of PS4 games will easily transition to the PS5 if you tell them that all their games will be playable on PS5. It's a huge win for Sony if they can transfer the userbase from PS4 to PS5 easily since they have such a huge advantage there this gen. BC is clearly not a big factor this gen otherwise the XB1 wouldn't be struggling to stay relevant against 2 consoles without BC (PS4 and Switch) but moving forward into next gen it could be an important factor for Sony.

@son-goku7523 said:

@kingtito said:

"I don't buy new consoles to play old games" -said all cows

"Gamers don't care about BC, BC isn't needed" - Sony

"Rumble is last gen"settles lawsuit "meet next gen rumble" - Sony

"Online gaming should always be free" Sony starts charging "I'm ok with paying because Sony gives me free games" - all cows

Geez it's no wonder you're considered the clowns of SWs.

These consoles negate your argument.

PS3 had full BC with PS1 and PS2 (not emulation like XB1) last gen and no one from the Xbox camp was eager to buy one. What changed for you guys?

How so? Cows have been saying all gen BC wasn't needed and didn't buy new consoles to play old games. Those console in no way invalidate what I've said here. Nice try though

X1s BC wasn't even supposed to happen due to the differences between the 360 and X1 architecture. It was a bonus that cows tried to shit on but now you're all for it.

Yeah, clowns of SWs

Xbox fanboys seem to be delusional living in a bubble where somehow they are the only true gamers and try to post as if they are speaking from a moral high ground to other gamers.

I don't know where they got this idea that they can speak as representatives of all gamers when the only things you ever hear them stand up for and make noise about is whatever gimmick or marking advantage MS happens to have at the time.

Proof to back that up? I don't keep my old consoles and I don't know a single person that did unless they're a game collector. I would bet the large majority of gamers, you know those casuals, don't.

The rumble reference was pointing to Sony's hypocrisy with rumble then and BC now. It was Sony that BC wasn't a feature it's gamers wanted or cared about. How is that claiming I can tell the future?

No, Sony didn't charge to play online games unlike this gen. Cows were saying all gen how online gaming should be free like it is on PC. You cows constantly trashed LIVE and MS because they charged to play online. Funny how that all changed once Sony starting charging on the low. They couldn't even bother to let gamers know ahead of time.

And you're a clown and hypocrite. Guess that makes us even huh cow? Go cry in your corner son.

PlayStation always playing catch up with PC features.

Our GFX and Performance (always behind), Online Gaming (far far behind), E-sports (miles behind), Mods (light years far behind), and now BC (will probably stay behind as well).

@kingtito said:

@son-goku7523 said:

@kingtito said:

"I don't buy new consoles to play old games" -said all cows

"Gamers don't care about BC, BC isn't needed" - Sony

"Rumble is last gen"settles lawsuit "meet next gen rumble" - Sony

"Online gaming should always be free" Sony starts charging "I'm ok with paying because Sony gives me free games" - all cows

Geez it's no wonder you're considered the clowns of SWs.

These consoles negate your argument.

PS3 had full BC with PS1 and PS2 (not emulation like XB1) last gen and no one from the Xbox camp was eager to buy one. What changed for you guys?

How so? Cows have been saying all gen BC wasn't needed and didn't buy new consoles to play old games. Those console in no way invalidate what I've said here. Nice try though

X1s BC wasn't even supposed to happen due to the differences between the 360 and X1 architecture. It was a bonus that cows tried to shit on but now you're all for it.

Yeah, clowns of SWs

Post evidence of cows "shitting" on BC, I'll wait.

You can't just sit down here and be posting crap you made up, you need evidence to back up such a claim.

I've had no problem with the way they went about bc this generation the only problem is the PS3 support which has proved very difficult to emulate. The ps2 games even had trophy support which was another plus.