NEW Crysis 2 Gameplay Trailer

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="chronocross668"]

Wow the 360 truly is tap out such a shame . good thing they're a ps3 version .

TheShadowLord07

perhaps crysis 2 has a bigger scale than rage? *shrugs*

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="chronocross668"]

Wow the 360 truly is tap out such a shame . good thing they're a ps3 version .

TheShadowLord07

perhaps crysis 2 has a bigger scale than rage? *shrugs*

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="chronocross668"]

Killzone 3 owns crysis 2 and gs agrees, check the best of e3 award :D

chronocross668

What are you referring to?

Link

GS picked GT5 over everything for graphics.

Best shooter

doesn't say that it was the best looking shooter in terms of graphics. They just liked everything else about it more than Crysis 2, which I can see. The Crysis 2 showing was good, but not great. Graphics are clearly in a whole other tier though.

Is it me or it looks a little too linear??LookAnDrolL

It does, from this trailer. But Crytek have already said that 1, the E3 level from this trailer was only a small chunk of it due to E3 purposes, and 2, When the game needs to be linear for story purposes, it will be.

Looks far more cinematic then the first. :)

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

What are you referring to?

Link

GS picked GT5 over everything for graphics.

KingsMessenger

Best shooter

doesn't say that it was the best looking shooter in terms of graphics. They just liked everything else about it more than Crysis 2, which I can see. The Crysis 2 showing was good, but not great. Graphics are clearly in a whole other tier though.

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

[QUOTE="chronocross668"]

Best shooter

Chutebox

doesn't say that it was the best looking shooter in terms of graphics. They just liked everything else about it more than Crysis 2, which I can see. The Crysis 2 showing was good, but not great. Graphics are clearly in a whole other tier though.

From a purely technical perspective, they absolutely are. The lighting ALONE puts it on a whole other tier. Throw in the scale, particle effects, and textures(most textures look great. some look rough. that isn't the point) and it is clearly on another level TECHNICALLY.

Artistically, it is arguable. At the very least, you have to put Crysis 2 on the same level as KZ3.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

doesn't say that it was the best looking shooter in terms of graphics. They just liked everything else about it more than Crysis 2, which I can see. The Crysis 2 showing was good, but not great. Graphics are clearly in a whole other tier though.

KingsMessenger

From a purely technical perspective, they absolutely are. The lighting ALONE puts it on a whole other tier. Throw in the scale, particle effects, and textures(most textures look great. some look rough. that isn't the point) and it is clearly on another level TECHNICALLY.

Artistically, it is arguable. At the very least, you have to put Crysis 2 on the same level as KZ3.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

doesn't say that it was the best looking shooter in terms of graphics. They just liked everything else about it more than Crysis 2, which I can see. The Crysis 2 showing was good, but not great. Graphics are clearly in a whole other tier though.

KingsMessenger

From a purely technical perspective, they absolutely are. The lighting ALONE puts it on a whole other tier. Throw in the scale, particle effects, and textures(most textures look great. some look rough. that isn't the point) and it is clearly on another level TECHNICALLY.

Artistically, it is arguable. At the very least, you have to put Crysis 2 on the same level as KZ3.

I think lighting yes. Lighting looks phenomenal in Crysis 2, and scale we can't comment on yet, but when it comes to Killzone 3, animations are still far beyond any other game (excluding Metro 2033). Textures I'd have to give to Crysis 2 because they look alot more sharper, and geometry Crysis 2 looks more realistic, while Killzone 3 goes for the wierd, everything looks overly large effect.

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] No they aren't, haha. You are putting Crysis 2 (consoles) on a pedestal it doesn't belong on.

ferret-gamer

From a purely technical perspective, they absolutely are. The lighting ALONE puts it on a whole other tier. Throw in the scale, particle effects, and textures(most textures look great. some look rough. that isn't the point) and it is clearly on another level TECHNICALLY.

Artistically, it is arguable. At the very least, you have to put Crysis 2 on the same level as KZ3.

The smoke effects are CLEARLY 3D and most of the fire is as well.

The blood spatter is a placeholder(game is still in Alpha) and some of the other particle effects are as well.

Crysis was doing volumetric particle effects before KZ2 was(infact, Guerilla actually used some of the techniques that Crytek spoke about for Crysis, in KZ2). They aren't just going to drop that tech.

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] No they aren't, haha. You are putting Crysis 2 (consoles) on a pedestal it doesn't belong on.

ferret-gamer

From a purely technical perspective, they absolutely are. The lighting ALONE puts it on a whole other tier. Throw in the scale, particle effects, and textures(most textures look great. some look rough. that isn't the point) and it is clearly on another level TECHNICALLY.

Artistically, it is arguable. At the very least, you have to put Crysis 2 on the same level as KZ3.

Crysis 2s particle effects are hit and miss. Smoke effects look great, but as you said, the sprites looks pretty meh. Here's a comparison between Crysis 2 and Killzone 2.

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] No they aren't, haha. You are putting Crysis 2 (consoles) on a pedestal it doesn't belong on.

WhenCicadasCry

From a purely technical perspective, they absolutely are. The lighting ALONE puts it on a whole other tier. Throw in the scale, particle effects, and textures(most textures look great. some look rough. that isn't the point) and it is clearly on another level TECHNICALLY.

Artistically, it is arguable. At the very least, you have to put Crysis 2 on the same level as KZ3.

I think lighting yes. Lighting looks phenomenal in Crysis 2, and scale we can't comment on yet, but when it comes to Killzone 3, animations are still far beyond any other game (excluding Metro 2033). Textures I'd have to give to Crysis 2 because they look alot more sharper, and geometry Crysis 2 looks more realistic, while Killzone 3 goes for the wierd, everything looks overly large effect.

I won't deny that the animations in KZ3 absolutely steamroll Crysis 2. But Crysis 2 does well enough that I think it is acceptable. But technically, the Crysis 2 tech is doing a lot more.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

doesn't say that it was the best looking shooter in terms of graphics. They just liked everything else about it more than Crysis 2, which I can see. The Crysis 2 showing was good, but not great. Graphics are clearly in a whole other tier though.

KingsMessenger

From a purely technical perspective, they absolutely are. The lighting ALONE puts it on a whole other tier. Throw in the scale, particle effects, and textures(most textures look great. some look rough. that isn't the point) and it is clearly on another level TECHNICALLY.

Artistically, it is arguable. At the very least, you have to put Crysis 2 on the same level as KZ3.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

From a purely technical perspective, they absolutely are. The lighting ALONE puts it on a whole other tier. Throw in the scale, particle effects, and textures(most textures look great. some look rough. that isn't the point) and it is clearly on another level TECHNICALLY.

Artistically, it is arguable. At the very least, you have to put Crysis 2 on the same level as KZ3.

WhenCicadasCry

Crysis 2s particle effects are hit and miss. Smoke effects look great, but as you said, the sprites looks pretty meh. Here's a comparison between Crysis 2 and Killzone 2.

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] No they aren't, haha. You are putting Crysis 2 (consoles) on a pedestal it doesn't belong on.

Chutebox

From a purely technical perspective, they absolutely are. The lighting ALONE puts it on a whole other tier. Throw in the scale, particle effects, and textures(most textures look great. some look rough. that isn't the point) and it is clearly on another level TECHNICALLY.

Artistically, it is arguable. At the very least, you have to put Crysis 2 on the same level as KZ3.

The level was actually more expansive than it appeared to be in the trailer. The buildings along the side could be entered and several levels to go through in them. The map was actually very large. We have also seen other videos of some very large areas with plenty of verticality...

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

From a purely technical perspective, they absolutely are. The lighting ALONE puts it on a whole other tier. Throw in the scale, particle effects, and textures(most textures look great. some look rough. that isn't the point) and it is clearly on another level TECHNICALLY.

Artistically, it is arguable. At the very least, you have to put Crysis 2 on the same level as KZ3.

KingsMessenger

I think lighting yes. Lighting looks phenomenal in Crysis 2, and scale we can't comment on yet, but when it comes to Killzone 3, animations are still far beyond any other game (excluding Metro 2033). Textures I'd have to give to Crysis 2 because they look alot more sharper, and geometry Crysis 2 looks more realistic, while Killzone 3 goes for the wierd, everything looks overly large effect.

I won't deny that the animations in KZ3 absolutely steamroll Crysis 2. But Crysis 2 does well enough that I think it is acceptable. But technically, the Crysis 2 tech is doing a lot more.

Alien animations are great, but the marines look really bad. :( Everything about the marines suck. Hopefully they're still incomplete.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="KingsMessenger"] the particle effects in console crysis 2 are laughable right now, a bunch of 2d crap. Kz3 had FAR better particle effects than what i have seen so far in crysis 2, volumetric>>>>>>2D spritesKingsMessenger

The smoke effects are CLEARLY 3D and most of the fire is as well.

The blood spatter is a placeholder(game is still in Alpha) and some of the other particle effects are as well.

Crysis was doing volumetric particle effects before KZ2 was(infact, Guerilla actually used some of the techniques that Crytek spoke about in KZ2). They aren't just going to drop that tech.

\Crysis 2s particle effects are hit and miss. Smoke effects look great, but as you said, the sprites looks pretty meh.WhenCicadasCry

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

From a purely technical perspective, they absolutely are. The lighting ALONE puts it on a whole other tier. Throw in the scale, particle effects, and textures(most textures look great. some look rough. that isn't the point) and it is clearly on another level TECHNICALLY.

Artistically, it is arguable. At the very least, you have to put Crysis 2 on the same level as KZ3.

KingsMessenger

The level was actually more expansive than it appeared to be in the trailer. The buildings along the side could be entered and several levels to go through in them. The map was actually very large. We have also seen other videos of some very large areas with plenty of verticality...

Yup, plus if you notice on the right there's a park where you could enter. The dev at Crymod (Cry-Sam) already said that this was a cut down version of the level used for E3 demonstration purposes.

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

The smoke effects are CLEARLY 3D and most of the fire is as well.

The blood spatter is a placeholder(game is still in Alpha) and some of the other particle effects are as well.

Crysis was doing volumetric particle effects before KZ2 was(infact, Guerilla actually used some of the techniques that Crytek spoke about in KZ2). They aren't just going to drop that tech.

ferret-gamer

\Crysis 2s particle effects are hit and miss. Smoke effects look great, but as you said, the sprites looks pretty meh.WhenCicadasCry

If there is one thing that is certainly going to stay it is the volumetric particle effects... I mean they are already apparent in the videos if you take off the fanboy goggles.

As for the differences between the Alpha builds... That is just a development symptom. Different teams do things differently... KZ3 had some extremely placeholder textures and geometry(at least I would hope so). Crysis 2 for the most part did not(some things were though). Crysis 2 had placeholder particle effects all over. KZ3 did not...

you take off the fanboy goggles.

KingsMessenger

sorry but why would my preference of pc gaming make me favor kz3? i dont even own a ps3. if anything my bias would support crysis 2, i prefer to see things as they are and that is that kz3 has better all around particle effects currently. Check my posting history if you want or ask some other people on this forum, i am defiantly not a cow.

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

you take off the fanboy goggles.

ferret-gamer

sorry but why would my preference of pc gaming make me favor kz3? i dont even own a ps3. if anything my bias would support crysis 2, i prefer to see things as they are and that is that kz3 has better all around particle effects currently. Check my posting history if you want or ask some other people on this forum, i am defiantly not a cow.

Ok. sorry.

I prefer the explosions and smoke in Crysis 2. But you are right, now that I think about the particle effects as a whole, there are definitely some rough spots. The blood spatter in particular is just fugly.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

you take off the fanboy goggles.

KingsMessenger

sorry but why would my preference of pc gaming make me favor kz3? i dont even own a ps3. if anything my bias would support crysis 2, i prefer to see things as they are and that is that kz3 has better all around particle effects currently. Check my posting history if you want or ask some other people on this forum, i am defiantly not a cow.

Ok. sorry.

I prefer the explosions and smoke in Crysis 2. But you are right, now that I think about the particle effects as a whole, there are definitely some rough spots. The blood spatter in particular is just fugly.

The alien blood splatter looks laughable right now. In 1 video as the alien fell, the sprite appeared out of thin air. I really hope these are placeholders. Even Crysis 1 had awesome volumetric particles when you shot the naked aliens inside the ship.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

you take off the fanboy goggles.

KingsMessenger

sorry but why would my preference of pc gaming make me favor kz3? i dont even own a ps3. if anything my bias would support crysis 2, i prefer to see things as they are and that is that kz3 has better all around particle effects currently. Check my posting history if you want or ask some other people on this forum, i am defiantly not a cow.

Ok. sorry.

I prefer the explosions and smoke in Crysis 2. But you are right, now that I think about the particle effects as a whole, there are definitely some rough spots. The blood spatter in particular is just fugly.

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

sorry but why would my preference of pc gaming make me favor kz3? i dont even own a ps3. if anything my bias would support crysis 2, i prefer to see things as they are and that is that kz3 has better all around particle effects currently. Check my posting history if you want or ask some other people on this forum, i am defiantly not a cow.

WhenCicadasCry

Ok. sorry.

I prefer the explosions and smoke in Crysis 2. But you are right, now that I think about the particle effects as a whole, there are definitely some rough spots. The blood spatter in particular is just fugly.

The alien blood splatter looks laughable right now. In 1 video as the alien fell, the sprite appeared out of thin air. I really hope these are placeholders. Even Crysis 1 had awesome volumetric particles when you shot the naked aliens inside the ship.

I am absolutely certain that they are placeholders. I mean they are literally grey, untextured 2D sprites right now. Crytek can't honestly keep those in the game....

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

Ok. sorry.

I prefer the explosions and smoke in Crysis 2. But you are right, now that I think about the particle effects as a whole, there are definitely some rough spots. The blood spatter in particular is just fugly.

KingsMessenger

The alien blood splatter looks laughable right now. In 1 video as the alien fell, the sprite appeared out of thin air. I really hope these are placeholders. Even Crysis 1 had awesome volumetric particles when you shot the naked aliens inside the ship.

I am absolutely certain that they are placeholders. I mean they are literally grey, untextured 2D sprites right now. Crytek can't honestly keep those in the game....

better looking then KZ3 thats for sure WOW it looks absolutely amazing can't wait to get my hands on this.

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

The alien blood splatter looks laughable right now. In 1 video as the alien fell, the sprite appeared out of thin air. I really hope these are placeholders. Even Crysis 1 had awesome volumetric particles when you shot the naked aliens inside the ship.

ferret-gamer

I am absolutely certain that they are placeholders. I mean they are literally grey, untextured 2D sprites right now. Crytek can't honestly keep those in the game....

but volumetric particle effects for bloodspatter wouldn't have been the cause of that...

The levels that spanned several square miles and had thousands of physics enabled object just lying around everywhere are the things that would have caused that...

I bet they just didn't have that particular effect ready. Particle effects ARE one of the last graphical features to be implemented in a number of games considering they are mostly considered polish effects rather than core graphical features.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

I am absolutely certain that they are placeholders. I mean they are literally grey, untextured 2D sprites right now. Crytek can't honestly keep those in the game....

KingsMessenger

but volumetric particle effects for bloodspatter wouldn't have been the cause of that...

The levels that spanned several square miles and had thousands of physics enabled object just lying around everywhere are the things that would have caused that...

I bet they just didn't have that particular effect ready. Particle effects ARE one of the last graphical features to be implemented in a number of games considering they are mostly considered polish effects rather than core graphical features.

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] but keep in mind that they are consoles, things that would die if they tried running the first game.ferret-gamer

but volumetric particle effects for bloodspatter wouldn't have been the cause of that...

The levels that spanned several square miles and had thousands of physics enabled object just lying around everywhere are the things that would have caused that...

I bet they just didn't have that particular effect ready. Particle effects ARE one of the last graphical features to be implemented in a number of games considering they are mostly considered polish effects rather than core graphical features.

That too. But there are ways to sort of cheat those things. The map size was the biggest issue. And Crysis 2 will be a lot smaller maps. Which is why I think they were brilliant to move it to New York and focus on vertical gameplay rather than wide, expansive gameplay in a massive map. They can achieve similar GAMEPLAY results without any of the inconvenient performance costs. I still want to see how it all turns out, but if they do it right, it should be really awesome. Although it does require a lot more work on the part of their artists. It is one thing to make a massive jungle map. It is another thing to make a large(not massive) map and then do it three more times to create verticality... Their workload has to be insane.... But it should save them a lot of RAM.

Best graphics Ive seen on a console for sure, looks like a standard FPS though.

Its the same coverage we have seen for the past three weeks. Honestly people have to move on. Anyone thinking this game is going to raise the bar is crazy, the game will look impressive no doubt, but its not going to be like a "wow" factor if you will. Everyone just has to move on from this one. This game will look good and probably be considered one of the best or part of the best looking games and thats it. These consoles as far as I'm concerned have reached their max.

Best graphics Ive seen on a console for sure, looks like a standard FPS though.

Shirokishi_

Its the same coverage we have seen for the past three weeks. Honestly people have to move on. Anyone thinking this game is going to raise the bar is crazy, the game will look impressive no doubt, but its not going to be like a "wow" factor if you will. Everyone just has to move on from this one. This game will look good and probably be considered one of the best or part of the best looking games and thats it. These consoles as far as I'm concerned have reached their max.

xscrapzx

Keep in mind that we still haven't REALLY seen the PC version in action. The one supposedly real-time PC trailer looked almost like it was CGI.

GamesCom... I am going to call it right now. GamesCom will be when they show Crysis 2 PC. Awesome Europe event, right in Germany... Crytek is going to blow out the PC version and leave people absolutely flabbergasted. And I guarantee that it will destroy everything else.

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

Its the same coverage we have seen for the past three weeks. Honestly people have to move on. Anyone thinking this game is going to raise the bar is crazy, the game will look impressive no doubt, but its not going to be like a "wow" factor if you will. Everyone just has to move on from this one. This game will look good and probably be considered one of the best or part of the best looking games and thats it. These consoles as far as I'm concerned have reached their max.

Keep in mind that we still haven't REALLY seen the PC version in action. The one supposedly real-time PC trailer looked almost like it was CGI.

GamesCom... I am going to call it right now. GamesCom will be when they show Crysis 2 PC. Awesome Europe event, right in Germany... Crytek is going to blow out the PC version and leave people absolutely flabbergasted. And I guarantee that it will destroy everything else.

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

Its the same coverage we have seen for the past three weeks. Honestly people have to move on. Anyone thinking this game is going to raise the bar is crazy, the game will look impressive no doubt, but its not going to be like a "wow" factor if you will. Everyone just has to move on from this one. This game will look good and probably be considered one of the best or part of the best looking games and thats it. These consoles as far as I'm concerned have reached their max.

xscrapzx

Keep in mind that we still haven't REALLY seen the PC version in action. The one supposedly real-time PC trailer looked almost like it was CGI.

GamesCom... I am going to call it right now. GamesCom will be when they show Crysis 2 PC. Awesome Europe event, right in Germany... Crytek is going to blow out the PC version and leave people absolutely flabbergasted. And I guarantee that it will destroy everything else.

It is going to be in the top tier of games on the consoles. In the same group as UC2, GoW3, KZ2, KZ3 and RAGE, at the very least. that is hardly something that is "not special."