New Fallout 3 preview. This is going to be the best RPG ever

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#1 stepat201
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http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/fallout3/news.html?sid=6195314&tag=topslot;title;1&om_act=convert&om_clk=topslot

This game is shaping up to be an incredible RPG. I mean just read that preview. A boy asks you to look for his father. You find him in his house dead. You can then return to the boy and give him the bad news by either saying:

"Bryan, I'm sorry, but your father is dead,"

"Your father's dead,"

or

"Sorry kid. Your old man is ant food."

I mean this is a game that offers choices! Look at those choices! And what's even more incredible is when you say the last option,the kid says "you're an a**hole."

This is just brilliant material right here. It just shows how amazing the mind over at Bethesda are. Instead of crying over his fathers death,the kid calls you an a**hole Truly brilliant writing.

I mean you can choose to be good or bad OR EVEN SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN!

Your thoughts on this work of art?

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#2 Koalakommander
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Selectable dialogue!!!!!?????

WOW THAT'S NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE!

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#3 BioShockOwnz
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I can sense some sarcasm.
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Now if it allowed you to say "Brian, I AM YOUR FATHER", it would GOTY 10/10.
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#5 stepat201
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Selectable dialogue!!!!!?????

WOW THAT'S NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE!

Koalakommander

But the dialogue is so incredible! Instead of just saying it,you can say it in three different ways.

Sure,there's no option to lie to the kid and tell him his dad is alive and in the house,the kid would then go to the house and be in for a shock. But it's ok,because it's Bethesda. After all,THEY MADE OBLIVION!!!!!111!

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#6 mo0ksi
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OMGZ DA CHOYSIES!!!!!!

I vote FO3 for greatest creation for all of mankind.

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#7 MuffinPunk
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To BE a ***** or NOT to be a *****, that is the question. Each to his own adventure, will discovery thy answer. And that kid has a dirty mouth.
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#8 Koalakommander
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[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

Selectable dialogue!!!!!?????

WOW THAT'S NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE!

stepat201

But the dialogue is so incredible! Instead of just saying it,you can say it in three different ways.

Sure,there's no option to lie to the kid and tell him his dad is alive and in the house,the kid would then go to the house and be in for a shock. But it's ok,because it's Bethesda. After all,THEY MADE OBLIVION!!!!!111!

I'm not trying to downplay the good things about selectable dialogue, it's just not a bragging right anymore.

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#9 stepat201
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[QUOTE="stepat201"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

Selectable dialogue!!!!!?????

WOW THAT'S NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE!

Koalakommander

But the dialogue is so incredible! Instead of just saying it,you can say it in three different ways.

Sure,there's no option to lie to the kid and tell him his dad is alive and in the house,the kid would then go to the house and be in for a shock. But it's ok,because it's Bethesda. After all,THEY MADE OBLIVION!!!!!111!

I'm not trying to downplay the good things about selectable dialogue, it's just not a bragging right anymore.

No you are wrong because the dialogue is just genius. THIS is how you make an RPG,you give the player CHOICES!

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Cool. reminds me of a million other RPG's.
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#11 stepat201
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Cool. reminds me of a million other RPG's.XenoNinja

No this will be the best ever because you can shoot limbs off people and see slow mo death scenes. This mixed in with the incredible role playing and the choices to do or say whatever you want has the making of the greatest RPG of all time. MAYBE EVEN BETTER THAN OBLIVION (maybe lol)

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#12 Planeforger  Online
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That's truly incredible!

I mean, the only way they could top that would be to have multiple consequences depending on which option you picked...but I doubt that even mighty Bethesda could handle such mind-boggling innovations.

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...This whole thread is sarcasm right? Fallout 1 and 2 had this sort of stuff.
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#14 stepat201
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That's truly incredible!

I mean, the only way they could top that would be to have multiple consequences depending on which option you picked...but I doubt that even mighty Bethesda could handle such mind-boggling innovations.

Planeforger

No games aren't that advanced yet,this is a step forward.

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#15 DivergeUnify
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I'm guessing this is sarcasm
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GOTY 4 TEH SELEKTIBBLE DIALOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111111111111111
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[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

Selectable dialogue!!!!!?????

WOW THAT'S NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE!

stepat201

But the dialogue is so incredible! Instead of just saying it,you can say it in three different ways.

Sure,there's no option to lie to the kid and tell him his dad is alive and in the house,the kid would then go to the house and be in for a shock. But it's ok,because it's Bethesda. After all,THEY MADE OBLIVION!!!!!111!

Oblivion

"The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion is simply one of the best role-playing games ever made." - Gamespot

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wow, what tough choices, i will not be able to decide which one of the 3 should i choose. maybe i should save the game before giving the kid a answer
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[QUOTE="stepat201"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

Selectable dialogue!!!!!?????

WOW THAT'S NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE!

krp008

But the dialogue is so incredible! Instead of just saying it,you can say it in three different ways.

Sure,there's no option to lie to the kid and tell him his dad is alive and in the house,the kid would then go to the house and be in for a shock. But it's ok,because it's Bethesda. After all,THEY MADE OBLIVION!!!!!111!

Oblivion

"The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion is simply one of the best role-playing games ever made." - Gamespot

Well move over Suzy here comes a new king. I mean woaaaaah there, 3 choices to say the same thing with no forseeable change or significance to the story? That has GOTY...no, that has GOTG written all over it. FACT!

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#20 Pariah_001
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I believe you mean best "shooter." But even then you'd be wrong.

No you are wrong because the dialogue is just genius. THIS is how you make an RPG,you give the player CHOICES!stepat201

Apparently you missed the interview with Hines where they said choices are going to be downgraded in lieu of making every facet of the game as playable as possible in a singe run.

Whatever you're referring to as "choices" is a standard dialogue tree. Now, coming from Bethesda, people who are notoriously bad with such things, that example's pretty impressive by their standards. But what you're not taking into account is that many other actual RPGs have done it before them--And those games weren't turned into shooters. Fallout 1 & 2 for example.

I think you need some time to get up to snuff on the subject of Bethesda and the RPG dev community.

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That is either the most sarcastic thing ever posted here on Gamespot or you are nuts. Fallout 3 is going to be the greatest RPG as Doom is the greatest RTS.
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#22 krp008
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That is either the most sarcastic thing ever posted here on Gamespot or you are nuts. Fallout 3 is going to be the greatest RPG as Doom is the greatest RTS.foxhound_fox

why are people hating on Fallout 3 so much? I looks amazing

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wow, what tough choices, i will not be able to decide which one of the 3 should i choose. maybe i should save the game before giving the kid a answernaval
twice so you can see the outcome of all 3 options....
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#24 Pariah_001
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Oblivion

"The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion is simply one of the best role-playing games ever made." - Gamespot

krp008

And because Gamespot said it, that makes it fact!

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[QUOTE="XenoNinja"]Cool. reminds me of a million other RPG's.stepat201

No this will be the best ever because you can shoot limbs off people and see slow mo death scenes. This mixed in with the incredible role playing and the choices to do or say whatever you want has the making of the greatest RPG of all time. MAYBE EVEN BETTER THAN OBLIVION (maybe lol)

Enough with the sarcasm. It was funny in the first post. Now you just killed it

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[QUOTE="krp008"]Oblivion

"The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion is simply one of the best role-playing games ever made." - Gamespot

Pariah_001

And because Gamespot said it, that makes it fact!

a reliable and popular reviewing site > a random guy's opinion

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]That is either the most sarcastic thing ever posted here on Gamespot or you are nuts. Fallout 3 is going to be the greatest RPG as Doom is the greatest RTS.krp008

why are people hating on Fallout 3 so much? I looks amazing

it looks amazing,

it looks great

It looks like it can be a fun game

WHat kills people is

That for a Fallout game it completely lacks the Fallout spirit, tone, themes, and sense of atmosphere that the previous games had

and for a game being billed as an RPG.....well it just isn't much of an RPG.

Bethesda has proven time and time again they can make pretty games.....its the substance they don't deliver on anymore...
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#28 TenP
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I believe you mean best "shooter." But even then you'd be wrong.

[QUOTE="stepat201"]No you are wrong because the dialogue is just genius. THIS is how you make an RPG,you give the player CHOICES!Pariah_001

Apparently you missed the interview with Hines where they said choices are going to be downgraded in lieu of making every facet of the game as playable as possible in a singe run.

Whatever you're referring to as "choices" is a standard dialogue tree. Now, coming from Bethesda, people who are notoriously bad with such things, that example's pretty impressive by their standards. But what you're not taking into account is that many other actual RPGs have done it before them--And those games weren't turned into shooters. Fallout 1 & 2 for example.

I think you need some time to get up to snuff on the subject of Bethesda and the RPG dev community.

I typically don't like saying things like this, but... *Whoosh*

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#29 jg4xchamp
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I believe you mean best "shooter." But even then you'd be wrong.

[QUOTE="stepat201"]No you are wrong because the dialogue is just genius. THIS is how you make an RPG,you give the player CHOICES!Pariah_001

Apparently you missed the interview with Hines where they said choices are going to be downgraded in lieu of making every facet of the game as playable as possible in a singe run.

Whatever you're referring to as "choices" is a standard dialogue tree. Now, coming from Bethesda, people who are notoriously bad with such things, that example's pretty impressive by their standards. But what you're not taking into account is that many other actual RPGs have done it before them--And those games weren't turned into shooters. Fallout 1 & 2 for example.

I think you need some time to get up to snuff on the subject of Bethesda and the RPG dev community.

he is being sarcastic dude.
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why are people hating on Fallout 3 so much? I looks amazingkrp008

It's more of a first-person action-adventure than it is a sequel to the originals, free-roam role-playing game like it is being claimed to be.
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[QUOTE="krp008"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]That is either the most sarcastic thing ever posted here on Gamespot or you are nuts. Fallout 3 is going to be the greatest RPG as Doom is the greatest RTS.jg4xchamp

why are people hating on Fallout 3 so much? I looks amazing

it looks amazing,

it looks great

It looks like it can be a fun game

WHat kills people is

That for a Fallout game it completely lacks the Fallout spirit, tone, themes, and sense of atmosphere that the previous games had

and for a game being billed as an RPG.....well it just isn't much of an RPG.

Bethesda has proven time and time again they can make pretty games.....its the substance they don't deliver on anymore...

Fallout 1 and 2 were 2d/partial 3D sky cam 1999 RPG's. This is the first next gen Fallout. Give it a break

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[QUOTE="Pariah_001"][QUOTE="krp008"]Oblivion

"The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion is simply one of the best role-playing games ever made." - Gamespot

krp008

And because Gamespot said it, that makes it fact!

a reliable and popular reviewing site > a random guy's opinion

So Gamespot's opinion is fact? While a random guy's opinion is an opinion? Hmmmmmm

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[QUOTE="krp008"][QUOTE="Pariah_001"][QUOTE="krp008"]Oblivion

"The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion is simply one of the best role-playing games ever made." - Gamespot

-Wheels-

And because Gamespot said it, that makes it fact!

a reliable and popular reviewing site > a random guy's opinion

So Gamespot's opinion is fact? While a random guy's opinion is an opinion? Hmmmmmm

Gamespot's opinion weighs more than yours buddy

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http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/fallout3/news.html?sid=6195314&tag=topslot;title;1&om_act=convert&om_clk=topslot

This game is shaping up to be an incredible RPG. I mean just read that preview. A boy asks you to look for his father. You find him in his house dead. You can then return to the boy and give him the bad news by either saying:

"Bryan, I'm sorry, but your father is dead,"

"Your father's dead,"

or

"Sorry kid. Your old man is ant food."

I mean this is a game that offers choices! Look at those choices! And what's even more incredible is when you say the last option,the kid says "you're an a**hole."

This is just brilliant material right here. It just shows how amazing the mind over at Bethesda are. Instead of crying over his fathers death,the kid calls you an a**hole Truly brilliant writing.

I mean you can choose to be good or bad OR EVEN SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN!

Your thoughts on this work of art?

stepat201

Wait is this sarcasm lol? that dialogue is POS compared to the original games

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[QUOTE="naval"]wow, what tough choices, i will not be able to decide which one of the 3 should i choose. maybe i should save the game before giving the kid a answerjg4xchamp
twice so you can see the outcome of all 3 options....

:lol: true, maybe each of the choices lead to one of the 200 endings in fallout 3

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Shoot, I was going to buy Fallout 3 too...

Now I won't buy it... I don't need another RPG... If you could call it that...

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Fallout 1 and 2 were 2d/partial 3D sky cam 1999 RPG's. This is the first next gen Fallout. Give it a breakkrp008

No. This is Bethesda taking a crap on quality IP.
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="krp008"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]That is either the most sarcastic thing ever posted here on Gamespot or you are nuts. Fallout 3 is going to be the greatest RPG as Doom is the greatest RTS.krp008

why are people hating on Fallout 3 so much? I looks amazing

it looks amazing,

it looks great

It looks like it can be a fun game

WHat kills people is

That for a Fallout game it completely lacks the Fallout spirit, tone, themes, and sense of atmosphere that the previous games had

and for a game being billed as an RPG.....well it just isn't much of an RPG.

Bethesda has proven time and time again they can make pretty games.....its the substance they don't deliver on anymore...

Fallout 1 and 2 were 2d/partial 3D sky cam 1999 RPG's. This is the first next gen Fallout. Give it a break

It made improvements to the combat and gameplay I will give it that. because anything is better than turnbased. A combat based around a dog chasing a cat would be better than turnbased.

However Like I said the game is being toned down in the areas that made the first 2 games awesome.

The Themes
The atmospher
The Choices(real choices)
The grit

A game like Fallout 1/2 in HD glory would probably be in a league of its own interms of mature themes and haunting images.
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#39 krp008
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Shoot, I was going to buy Fallout 3 too...

Now I won't buy it... I don't need another RPG... If you could call it that...

GundamGuy0

just exploring DC will be worth it for me. And all i play are shooters so thats also a plus

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a reliable and popular reviewing site > a random guy's opinionkrp008

Wow! Elitism for the win!

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="naval"]wow, what tough choices, i will not be able to decide which one of the 3 should i choose. maybe i should save the game before giving the kid a answernaval

twice so you can see the outcome of all 3 options....

:lol: true, maybe each of the choices lead to one of the 200 endings in fallout 3

Oh i know.....

Walks of into sunset
Walks of into sunset with a limp and a purple hat
Walks of into sunset with dogs at his side.

Man can you believe this gamae has multiple endings....that couldn't have been done before...
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#42 TenP
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Oh i know.....

Walks of into sunset
Walks of into sunset with a limp and a purple hat
Walks of into sunset with dogs at his side.

Man can you believe this gamae has multiple endings....that couldn't have been done before...jg4xchamp

U 4GOT TEH EPIC MAIN KARAKTER DIES IN SUNSET ENDING!

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[QUOTE="krp008"]a reliable and popular reviewing site > a random guy's opinionPariah_001

Wow! Elitism for the win!

um.... I wouldn't call that elitism

I mean I don't think a review is the end all be all statement.

But it isn't elitism.....
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Oh i know.....

Walks of into sunset
Walks of into sunset with a limp and a purple hat
Walks of into sunset with dogs at his side.

Man can you believe this gamae has multiple endings....that couldn't have been done before...TenP

U 4GOT TEH EPIC MAIN KARAKTER DIES IN SUNSET ENDING!

no way...Honest note

Game devs think that killing the main character to invoke emotion is to cliche....so them living would be better(even thought that is honestly so plaid out)

Seriousaly

Why the hell did

mastercheif not die

why is Snake still breathing


Both games would have there ICON character be etched in stone with just that one ending....but no......Lets let them live and do normal things now(well Snake atleast).
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#45 Pariah_001
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[QUOTE="Pariah_001"]

[QUOTE="krp008"]a reliable and popular reviewing site > a random guy's opinionjg4xchamp

Wow! Elitism for the win!

um.... I wouldn't call that elitism

I mean I don't think a review is the end all be all statement.

But it isn't elitism.....

Emphasizing titular importance of someone over their substantive elements is elitism.

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#46 naval
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="naval"]wow, what tough choices, i will not be able to decide which one of the 3 should i choose. maybe i should save the game before giving the kid a answerjg4xchamp

twice so you can see the outcome of all 3 options....

:lol: true, maybe each of the choices lead to one of the 200 endings in fallout 3

Oh i know.....

Walks of into sunset
Walks of into sunset with a limp and a purple hat
Walks of into sunset with dogs at his side.

Man can you believe this gamae has multiple endings....that couldn't have been done before...

now with each of the 3 add the 3 responses of the kid and you get 9 endings

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#47 TenP
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Game devs think that killing the main character to invoke emotion is to cliche....so them living would be better(even thought that is honestly so plaid out)jg4xchamp

So Bethesda wants fallout 3 to be a Cliche shooter, but not have a cliche shooter ending? :lol:

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#48 Sonir77
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Like a kid would say that if he found out his dad died.
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Game devs think that killing the main character to invoke emotion is to cliche....so them living would be better(even thought that is honestly so plaid out)TenP

So Bethesda wants fallout 3 to be a Cliche shooter, but not have a cliche shooter ending? :lol:

No i think you misunderstood me.

I mean that most would look at as the main character dieing as this big impact moment in a game....

but devs rarely have to jewels to actually kill the main character....I mean its either because they think its to cliche and simple(even though it is rarely done) or its to crazy of an idea.

I WOULD love if just one of these big games kills there main character.

I want a casualty this year in gaming...Somebody.....anybody

Marcus in Gears of War 2(doubt it, but i think DOM will die)
Nathan Hale doesn't make it in Resistance 2
Issac in Dead Space
The Prince in PRince of Persia
Chris Redfield in Resident Evil 5

Somebody....please bite the bigone.
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#50 TenP
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No i think you misunderstood me.

I mean that most would look at as the main character dieing as this big impact moment in a game....

but devs rarely have to jewels to actually kill the main character....I mean its either because they think its to cliche and simple(even though it is rarely done) or its to crazy of an idea.jg4xchamp

Well, they killed the series, why not kill all the main characters in it, amirite?