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[QUOTE="TenP"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Game devs think that killing the main character to invoke emotion is to cliche....so them living would be better(even thought that is honestly so plaid out)jg4xchamp
So Bethesda wants fallout 3 to be a Cliche shooter, but not have a cliche shooter ending? :lol:
No i think you misunderstood me.I think they finally need to kill off Mario.
[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="TenP"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Game devs think that killing the main character to invoke emotion is to cliche....so them living would be better(even thought that is honestly so plaid out)DeathScape666
So Bethesda wants fallout 3 to be a Cliche shooter, but not have a cliche shooter ending? :lol:
No i think you misunderstood me.I think they finally need to kill off Mario.
A huge supply of 1-Up Mushrooms makes that impossible. :P
[QUOTE="stepat201"]http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/fallout3/news.html?sid=6195314&tag=topslot;title;1&om_act=convert&om_clk=topslot
This game is shaping up to be an incredible RPG. I mean just read that preview. A boy asks you to look for his father. You find him in his house dead. You can then return to the boy and give him the bad news by either saying:
"Bryan, I'm sorry, but your father is dead,"
"Your father's dead,"
or
"Sorry kid. Your old man is ant food."
I mean this is a game that offers choices! Look at those choices! And what's even more incredible is when you say the last option,the kid says "you're an a**hole."
This is just brilliant material right here. It just shows how amazing the mind over at Bethesda are. Instead of crying over his fathers death,the kid calls you an a**hole Truly brilliant writing.
I mean you can choose to be good or bad OR EVEN SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN!
Your thoughts on this work of art?
L1qu1dSword
The excitement I feel is truly palapable. I need to pre-order this now! Now we just need to get the fanboys of the old FA games to STFU so I can enjoy it in peace ;)
They don't need to shut up because they were right. This EXACTLY like Oblivion
[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][QUOTE="stepat201"]http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/fallout3/news.html?sid=6195314&tag=topslot;title;1&om_act=convert&om_clk=topslot
This game is shaping up to be an incredible RPG. I mean just read that preview. A boy asks you to look for his father. You find him in his house dead. You can then return to the boy and give him the bad news by either saying:
"Bryan, I'm sorry, but your father is dead,"
"Your father's dead,"
or
"Sorry kid. Your old man is ant food."
I mean this is a game that offers choices! Look at those choices! And what's even more incredible is when you say the last option,the kid says "you're an a**hole."
This is just brilliant material right here. It just shows how amazing the mind over at Bethesda are. Instead of crying over his fathers death,the kid calls you an a**hole Truly brilliant writing.
I mean you can choose to be good or bad OR EVEN SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN!
Your thoughts on this work of art?
Juggernaut140
The excitement I feel is truly palapable. I need to pre-order this now! Now we just need to get the fanboys of the old FA games to STFU so I can enjoy it in peace ;)
They don't need to shut up because they were right. This EXACTLY like Oblivion
LoL I love how some consoleites still aren't detecting the sarcasm. This is Oblivion with guns and VATS.
There is really no difference. Even that sidequest sounds just like the ones in Oblivion. I love how by doing this,Beth makes it impossible to replay their game because their is only one way to progress through it.
Oh, we're picking it up just fine. The problem for you is that there are plenty of us who will be perfectly happy to get Oblivion with guns - apparently, enough that they expect to make some money off of this. Sucks to be you guys; try outnumbering us next time.LoL I love how some consoleites still aren't detecting the sarcasm. This is Oblivion with guns and VATS.
stepat201
[QUOTE="stepat201"]Oh, we're picking it up just fine. The problem for you is that there are plenty of us who will be perfectly happy to get Oblivion with guns - apparently, enough that they expect to make some money off of this. Sucks to be you guys; try outnumbering us next time. And its that just fine attitude that is why we're so angry. Fallout isn't Oblivion with guns. fallout is one of the best RPGs of all time. Its not an action adventure game with crappy tacked on role playing elements.LoL I love how some consoleites still aren't detecting the sarcasm. This is Oblivion with guns and VATS.
lowe0
[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="stepat201"]Oh, we're picking it up just fine. The problem for you is that there are plenty of us who will be perfectly happy to get Oblivion with guns - apparently, enough that they expect to make some money off of this. Sucks to be you guys; try outnumbering us next time. And its that just fine attitude that is why we're so angry. Fallout isn't Oblivion with guns. fallout is one of the best RPGs of all time. Its not an action adventure game with crappy tacked on role playing elements.You're angry because I'm going to enjoy something. Think about that for a moment.LoL I love how some consoleites still aren't detecting the sarcasm. This is Oblivion with guns and VATS.
Vandalvideo
You're angry because I'm going to enjoy something. Think about that for a moment.lowe0I'm angry because you're taking enjoyment from an abomination. It doesn't even have the right to be called Fallout!
[QUOTE="lowe0"]You're angry because I'm going to enjoy something. Think about that for a moment.VandalvideoI'm angry because you're taking enjoyment from an abomination. It doesn't even have the right to be called Fallout!Yeah, but they're going to make it whether you like it or not. Ask any fan of 80s Metallica - you can enjoy the new stuff or you can ignore it, but there's nothing you can do to get more of the old stuff.
Yeah, but they're going to make it whether you like it or not. Ask any fan of 80s Metallica - you can enjoy the new stuff or you can ignore it, but there's nothing you can do to get more of the old stuff.lowe0I think all the Fallout fans realize that they're going to keep making it. What we're demanding isn't Bethesda stop the game all together, but to take responsibility for the empty promises made during development, the obvious brand milkage, and the lies. I don't think anyone would be nearly as made had Bethesda promised us this faithful sequal, continued to hype it, and ultimately failed.
I think all the Fallout fans realize that they're going to keep making it. What we're demanding isn't Bethesda stop the game all together, but to take responsibility for the empty promises made during development, the obvious brand milkage, and the lies. I don't think anyone would be nearly as made had Bethesda promised us this faithful sequal, continued to hype it, and ultimately failed.VandalvideoWhat do you expect - for them to come out and say **** you guys! Oh, sorry, and buy our game anyway." They're selling a product, and they're not going to spend time telling you why it's not what you want. They paid for the license, and now they're allowed to do whatever they want with it.
If Fallout fans aren't going to buy their game, then why should Bethesda worry about making them happy?
Yeah, but they're going to make it whether you like it or not. Ask any fan of 80s Metallica - you can enjoy the new stuff or you can ignore it, but there's nothing you can do to get more of the old stuff.lowe0
Metallica changed on their own.
Fallout's just being raped by Bethesda.
If Fallout fans aren't going to buy their game, then why should Bethesda worry about making them happy?lowe0
Obviously you weren't around when they tried to cozy up to NMA, DaC, and the RPGCodex at the beginning of the game's development stage.
The kid is told that his father his dead and he responds with "you're an *** hole"?
That's some awful dialogue.
Mass Effect's Dialouge and choices >>>> Fallout 3'sangelkimne
Even Mass Effect's dialogue and choices were fairly simplistic.
I mean, the good and evil persuasion options have the same result in any situation (sure, a guy might live or die, but it won't affect the rest of the game in any way).
If I were making Fallout 3, the dialogue choices would have been:
"Sorry kid, your dad is dead"
"Sorry kid, I didn't find your dad"
"Sorry kid, I ate your dad, he was delicious"
subrosian
Or "Hey kid, I found your dad, and I can take you to him...for a price."
Or "Ug...dad sleep...", for low-intelligence characters.
Or "Hey kid, wanna see something really awesome?"
Or "Hey kid, looks like your dad ran out on you, but he left you this money."
Ant Food.. Lol! Such a weak attempt at even a bully's answer.
Should have been something like this.
"Hey kid, I have bad news, you're old man is dead. I am very sorry. I tried to save him."
"Your pathetic excuse of man, your father, has bitten the dust. I watched him perish, boy and I did nothing. What have you?"
"He's dead, nothing more can be said"
"I had no luck in relocating him.."
Opened up to:
"I have no urge to, it would be pointless for me, I care not!"
'I will see what I can do"
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