New Forza III Aston vs. Ferrari

Mmm, yeah. The best console racing sim is back and looking better than ever.

[QUOTE="nyctota"]

[QUOTE="VitunLehmat"] OMG that's the most redicoulous damage control i've ever seen....did you know that having 8 cars on the tracks is called design choice?is not a technical limitation like you're trying to say...the original Forza for the xbox had 8 cars on the track too,if turn10 wanted they could easily increase the numbers of cars,but why do it if 8 works good enough?VitunLehmat

ya riiiiiiiiiiiight

they must have been looking at some dull racing on tv

turn 10 just wanted to try to look as good as gt5p graphic wise but they would have a better chance of putting 4 cars on track

i cant back up my claims but can you ? mine is the most obvious

i post here because its SW

and gt5 competition ? lol

even gt5p a demo outsold forza 2 here in europe

[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="nyctota"]yup and for a reasonnyctota

wrong to show off the best racing sim

LMFAO calling GT5 the best racing sim....

Sorry, but neither GT5 nor Forza 3 actually deserve that title... There are far better PC Racing Sims around.

As far as physics go, I would like to point out thathttp://www.insidesimracing.tv/made some direct comparisons between Forza 3 and PC Sims which have led the pack in physics for a while... PC Racing Sims still win in the comparison, but if it is getting close, that is a massive leap forward compared to before.

GT has a lot to prove, and as of right now, it hasn't proven that it has brought its physics up to modern standards that have been set by PC Racing Sims.

[QUOTE="nyctota"]

[QUOTE="killerfist"] To promote anything Sony and GT? Yeah...horrowhip

wrong to show off the best racing sim

LMFAO calling GT5 the best racing sim....

Sorry, but neither GT5 nor Forza 3 actually deserve that title... There are far better PC Racing Sims around.

As far as physics go, I would like to point out thathttp://www.insidesimracing.tv/made some direct comparisons between Forza 3 and PC Sims which have led the pack in physics for a while... PC Racing Sims still win in the comparison, but if it is getting close, that is a massive leap forward compared to before.

GT has a lot to prove, and as of right now, it hasn't proven that it has brought its physics up to modern standards that have been set by PC Racing Sims.

why talking about e32009 i didnt see gt5 playable there did you ?

and pc won because of the ps3 limitation now its different gt5p destroys pc sims

[QUOTE="VitunLehmat"][QUOTE="nyctota"]

ya riiiiiiiiiiiight

they must have been looking at some dull racing on tv

turn 10 just wanted to try to look as good as gt5p graphic wise but they would have a better chance of putting 4 cars on track

nyctota

i cant back up my claims but can you ? mine is the most obvious

i post here because its SW

and gt5 competition ? lol

even gt5p a demo outsold forza 2 here in europe

why talking about e32009 i didnt see gt5 playable there did you ?

nyctota

No. Exactly why GT5 hasn't proven itself... GT5P didn't prove anything about the physics. And until they actually come forward to show anything about their steps forward in physics, GT5 is now firmly behind Forza 3.

why talking about e32009 i didnt see gt5 playable there did you ?

and pc won because of the ps3 limitation now its different gt5p destroys pc sims

nyctota

LMFAO... GT5P most certainly doesn't beat PC sims.... You are a delusional fanboy

i cant back up my claims but can you ? mine is the most obvious

i post here because its SW

and gt5 competition ? lol

even gt5p a demo outsold forza 2 here in europe

nyctota

As far as I can tell Sony has been hyping GT5 since '05 and has yet to deliver. Not that I care either way. I'm a much bigger fan of arcade racers. I just find it funny that you're trying so hard to prove which preview is better than the other.

At least Turn10 was able to release a FULL game so far this gen.

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[QUOTE="VitunLehmat"] You're wrong in so many levels that you can't even back up your claims,you're jealous of Forza 3 otherwise you wouldn't be posting here..time to move and accept that GT5 has competition and a hard one to beat.VitunLehmat

i cant back up my claims but can you ? mine is the most obvious

i post here because its SW

and gt5 competition ? lol

even gt5p a demo outsold forza 2 here in europe

already did

saleswise, wrc, nascar, damage, 16 cars, weather changes, car detail, background lol who cares about the background look my background is 3d but i cant go there.. funny thing is gt5p background look 20 times better then forza..

[QUOTE="nyctota"]

why talking about e32009 i didnt see gt5 playable there did you ?

and pc won because of the ps3 limitation now its different gt5p destroys pc sims

horrowhip

LMFAO... GT5P most certainly doesn't beat PC sims.... You are a delusional fanboy

it does

[QUOTE="nyctota"]

i cant back up my claims but can you ? mine is the most obvious

i post here because its SW

and gt5 competition ? lol

even gt5p a demo outsold forza 2 here in europe

mythrol

As far as I can tell Sony has been hyping GT5 since '05 and has yet to deliver. Not that I care either way. I'm a much bigger fan of arcade racers. I just find it funny that you're trying so hard to prove which preview is better than the other.

At least Turn10 was able to release a FULL game so far this gen.

[QUOTE="nyctota"]

[QUOTE="Nedemis"] that's funny seeing how Forza 2 demolished any GT game to date as far as driving physics go....:lol: Guess Forza3 will be the best of both worlds then, huh?

Nedemis

ya riiiight

listning to gamespot is dumb people that knows driving, car handling AKA TOpgear says otherwise

Topgear >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gamespot

it does

nyctota

No... No it does not.

http://iracing.com/home.html

http://iracing.com/technology/track.php?lc=1

They scan the tracks to get the details down to the tiniest bumps. Polyphony just takes reference shots of the track and does it that way. Bumps in the track, and different conditions of the track make no difference in GT...

http://iracing.com/technology/car.php?lc=2

They have multi-body car models, meaning parts are independent and seperately calculated for physics. This means that they can do things with the physics that nobody else can in terms of modeling stress and output.

Not to mention they use the data from each car manufacture to produce life-like simulations down to the wear on each tire.

It has full tyre simulation down to wear and flex....

GT is a freaking play toy compared to modern PC Racing Sims.

[QUOTE="VitunLehmat"][QUOTE="nyctota"]

i cant back up my claims but can you ? mine is the most obvious

i post here because its SW

and gt5 competition ? lol

even gt5p a demo outsold forza 2 here in europe

nyctota

already did

saleswise, wrc, nascar, damage, 16 cars, weather changes, car detail, background lol who cares about the background look my background is 3d but i cant go there.. funny thing is gt5p background look 20 times better then forza..

[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="nyctota"]

ya riiiight

listning to gamespot is dumb people that knows driving, car handling AKA TOpgear says otherwise

Topgear >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gamespot

cody3232

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[QUOTE="Nedemis"] you go with your ONE source and I'll stick to EVERY single review of Forza2 where nothing but praise was sung about how incredible the driving physics was in that 2+ year old game. :lol: Have you ever played Forza or better yet, have you even driven a real car yet? :|Tjeremiah1988

I don't wanna sound like a fanboy but GT5 has got some real competition.TR800

Nice pics, but it would be awesome to see some real ingame pics and not these obvious Bullshots. Pics that size and absolutely no jaggies, no way.

Sometimes I feel GT5 : P has a slight edge in car models and sometimes I don't. Anyway, can't wait for this game.

[QUOTE="nyctota"]

[QUOTE="VitunLehmat"] I'm backing them explaining to you,unlike you ''ya riiiiiiiiiiigth'' is nothing,just show that you have nothing to say,and since when turn10 is competing with GT5p graphics?is there anything to beat at least? horrible physics,has no damage and the backgrounds are 2D,the only thing gt5p has going is the car models..Turn10 doesn't need to beat anything,in the other hand Polyphony needs to beat turn10.VitunLehmat

already did

saleswise, wrc, nascar, damage, 16 cars, weather changes, car detail, background lol who cares about the background look my background is 3d but i cant go there.. funny thing is gt5p background look 20 times better then forza..

[QUOTE="horrowhip"]

[QUOTE="nyctota"]

wrong to show off the best racing sim

nyctota

LMFAO calling GT5 the best racing sim....

Sorry, but neither GT5 nor Forza 3 actually deserve that title... There are far better PC Racing Sims around.

As far as physics go, I would like to point out thathttp://www.insidesimracing.tv/made some direct comparisons between Forza 3 and PC Sims which have led the pack in physics for a while... PC Racing Sims still win in the comparison, but if it is getting close, that is a massive leap forward compared to before.

GT has a lot to prove, and as of right now, it hasn't proven that it has brought its physics up to modern standards that have been set by PC Racing Sims.

why talking about e32009 i didnt see gt5 playable there did you ?

and pc won because of the ps3 limitation now its different gt5p destroys pc sims

If GT5P physics kill the competition, then explain this story on GTPlanet.

http://www.gtplanet.net/page/6/

Summary? Cheaters ruin official GT5P competition. How? Wall riding. That's right. People pulled out all the stops to win this competition by riding their cars along the walls rather than slow down for the corners. The fastest clean racers of GT5 lost to these exploiters. I'm not gonna say GT5 is a bad game, it's a great game, but you need to pull your head out of the sand and stop believing PR spin.

[QUOTE="nyctota"]

it does

horrowhip

No... No it does not.

http://iracing.com/home.html

http://iracing.com/technology/track.php?lc=1

They scan the tracks to get the details down to the tiniest bumps. Polyphony just takes reference shots of the track and does it that way. Bumps in the track, and different conditions of the track make no difference in GT...

http://iracing.com/technology/car.php?lc=2

They have multi-body car models, meaning parts are independent and seperately calculated for physics. This means that they can do things with the physics that nobody else can in terms of modeling stress and output.

Not to mention they use the data from each car manufacture to produce life-like simulations down to the wear on each tire.

It has full tyre simulation down to wear and flex....

GT is a freaking play toy compared to modern PC Racing Sims.

Only the most hardcore sony/GT fanboys actually think GT has better driving physics then Forza, and well Graphics FOrza III wins too cause everyone is basing GT5P graphics on the Bshots Rikusaki shows in his daily GT is god thread. Anyone who watches gameplay vid of Prologue understands Forza III looks alot better.

PSForza IIIalso has actual 3d backgrounds as opposed to sterile environments with nothing going on.

I've seen better car models before but the game does look great.

[QUOTE="horrowhip"]

[QUOTE="nyctota"]

it does

killa4lyfe

No... No it does not.

http://iracing.com/home.html

http://iracing.com/technology/track.php?lc=1

They scan the tracks to get the details down to the tiniest bumps. Polyphony just takes reference shots of the track and does it that way. Bumps in the track, and different conditions of the track make no difference in GT...

http://iracing.com/technology/car.php?lc=2

They have multi-body car models, meaning parts are independent and seperately calculated for physics. This means that they can do things with the physics that nobody else can in terms of modeling stress and output.

Not to mention they use the data from each car manufacture to produce life-like simulations down to the wear on each tire.

It has full tyre simulation down to wear and flex....

GT is a freaking play toy compared to modern PC Racing Sims.

Everything you need to know

http://iracing.com/membership/subscriptions.php?lc=2

[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="nyctota"]

wrong to show off the best racing sim

nyctota

lol they where praising GT way before they made a deal ;...

do you guys even watch Topgear ?

I have watched every single episode of Top Gear on a Sunday night (waiting for the new series - Whoooo!), and there isn't any - AT ALL - indication that they have even played Forza.

AND...when Clarkson took the NSX round Laguna Seca (then done it on PS2 afterwards to compare lap times) , he actually criticised the 'game NSX' for not reacting/feeling like it did when he took the real car round.

AND...I'm sure the game was GT3, and I'm quite sure Froza first came out after GT3.

Nice pics, but it would be awesome to see some real ingame pics and not these obvious Bullshots. Pics that size and absolutely no jaggies, no way.

glez13

Pretty much the greatest graphical leap of any sequel this gen imo. Forza 2 looked meh but played great, so this is like the best of both worlds

Comparison time!

Forza 3

Real life

That's pretty good if you ask me.

The_Game21x

the best racing simnyctota

[QUOTE="nyctota"]

it does

horrowhip

No... No it does not.

http://iracing.com/home.html

http://iracing.com/technology/track.php?lc=1

They scan the tracks to get the details down to the tiniest bumps. Polyphony just takes reference shots of the track and does it that way. Bumps in the track, and different conditions of the track make no difference in GT...

http://iracing.com/technology/car.php?lc=2

They have multi-body car models, meaning parts are independent and seperately calculated for physics. This means that they can do things with the physics that nobody else can in terms of modeling stress and output.

Not to mention they use the data from each car manufacture to produce life-like simulations down to the wear on each tire.

It has full tyre simulation down to wear and flex....

GT is a freaking play toy compared to modern PC Racing Sims.

I don't wanna sound like a fanboy but GT5 has got some real competition.TR800

ive not always been the biggest forza fan (as far as xbox racers go, i think pgr is the king and needs some recognition!) but the more i see of this, the more i cant wait for release day. looks beautiful.R_MAHIL

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Comparison time!

Forza 3

Real life

That's pretty good if you ask me.

GTR2addict

the best racing simnyctota

Now I could be horribly wrong...but, I don't think the exhaust is standard, they look different to all other pics of the 599, the same for the rims - they are not standard trim.