New Gears of War 2 Preview - The Good and the Bad

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

Atleast resistance 2 is better, gears 2 is just gears 1. Who wants to ppay 60$ plus live fees, plus and HDD(if you dot have one) to play the same gme/.

WillieBeamish

Who wants to pay $60 for the sequel of an underwhelming first-person space alien shooter? I haven't seen a R2 video that didn't put me to sleep.

you COMPLETELY missed the point. RESISTANCE 2 IS BETTER. 8.6+ guaranteed.. AAA game.

[QUOTE="doobie1975"]if it aint broken, dont fix it.CubanBlunt

So why do people bash the Playstation controller,.....im just putting it out there.

That comes down, like games, to a matter of preference. The Playstation controller cant hold a candle the the 360 controller for me, because its too small of a controller, and doesnt fit in my hands nearly as comfortably.

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

Atleast resistance 2 is better, gears 2 is just gears 1. Who wants to ppay 60$ plus live fees, plus and HDD(if you dot have one) to play the same gme/.

WillieBeamish

Who wants to pay $60 for the sequel of an underwhelming first-person space alien shooter? I haven't seen a R2 video that didn't put me to sleep.

Agreed.From what I've seen Resistance 2 looks even more dissapointing than the first one.Gears 2 will own.

[QUOTE="WillieBeamish"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

Atleast resistance 2 is better, gears 2 is just gears 1. Who wants to ppay 60$ plus live fees, plus and HDD(if you dot have one) to play the same gme/.

Adrian_Cloud

Who wants to pay $60 for the sequel of an underwhelming first-person space alien shooter? I haven't seen a R2 video that didn't put me to sleep.

you COMPLETELY missed the point. RESISTANCE 2 IS BETTER. 8.6+ guaranteed.. AAA game.

How can you claim one unreleased game is better than another.

[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"][QUOTE="WillieBeamish"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

Atleast resistance 2 is better, gears 2 is just gears 1. Who wants to ppay 60$ plus live fees, plus and HDD(if you dot have one) to play the same gme/.

carljohnson3456

Who wants to pay $60 for the sequel of an underwhelming first-person space alien shooter? I haven't seen a R2 video that didn't put me to sleep.

Agreed.From what I've seen Resistance 2 looks even more dissapointing than the first one.Gears 2 will own.

:lol: GabeNewellsPie and WillieBeamish agreeing that Resistance 2 "looks terrible". Who'da thunk it???

LMAO I just noticed that.

[QUOTE="WillieBeamish"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

Atleast resistance 2 is better, gears 2 is just gears 1. Who wants to ppay 60$ plus live fees, plus and HDD(if you dot have one) to play the same gme/.

GabeNewellsPie

Who wants to pay $60 for the sequel of an underwhelming first-person space alien shooter? I haven't seen a R2 video that didn't put me to sleep.

Agreed.From what I've seen Resistance 2 looks even more dissapointing than the first one.Gears 2 will own.

How does R2 look more dissapointing than the first one??? Is it the better graphics? Better physics? Better game modes? Better enemies?

They've improved on the original in every way possible... there is no reason for anyone to think R2 looks worse than the original at this point from what we've all heard and seen. Unless of course, you're hoping it's going to be worse...

Gears of War perfected the over-the-shoulder run and gun gameplay. In my opinion, I think it was quite revolutionary in what it did. Evidence of this: a slew of games following in it's footsteps attempting to mimick that same style of play.

I stopped reading the preview after the first paragraph.

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

Atleast resistance 2 is better, gears 2 is just gears 1. Who wants to ppay 60$ plus live fees, plus and HDD(if you dot have one) to play the same gme/.

SpruceCaboose

I do, for one. Since its not the same game.

i would atleast rent it first.. just to make sure.

[QUOTE="WillieBeamish"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

Atleast resistance 2 is better, gears 2 is just gears 1. Who wants to ppay 60$ plus live fees, plus and HDD(if you dot have one) to play the same gme/.

GabeNewellsPie

Who wants to pay $60 for the sequel of an underwhelming first-person space alien shooter? I haven't seen a R2 video that didn't put me to sleep.

Agreed.From what I've seen Resistance 2 looks even more dissapointing than the first one.Gears 2 will own.

News flash...First one wasn't disappointing to most,

[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Agreed.From what I've seen Resistance 2 looks even more dissapointing than the first one.Gears 2 will own.

tmntPunchout

News flash...First one wasn't disappointing to most,

I am still planning on getting the first when I can find some free time and the game on the cheap, as I never did play it, and I want to give it a go.

[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"][QUOTE="WillieBeamish"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

Atleast resistance 2 is better, gears 2 is just gears 1. Who wants to ppay 60$ plus live fees, plus and HDD(if you dot have one) to play the same gme/.

tmntPunchout

Who wants to pay $60 for the sequel of an underwhelming first-person space alien shooter? I haven't seen a R2 video that didn't put me to sleep.

Agreed.From what I've seen Resistance 2 looks even more dissapointing than the first one.Gears 2 will own.

News flash...First one wasn't disappointing to most,

Well it was for me.Going from playing Geow to Resistance made you see how poor it was next to Gears.

[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"][QUOTE="WillieBeamish"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

Atleast resistance 2 is better, gears 2 is just gears 1. Who wants to ppay 60$ plus live fees, plus and HDD(if you dot have one) to play the same gme/.

carljohnson3456

Who wants to pay $60 for the sequel of an underwhelming first-person space alien shooter? I haven't seen a R2 video that didn't put me to sleep.

Agreed.From what I've seen Resistance 2 looks even more dissapointing than the first one.Gears 2 will own.

How does R2 look more dissapointing than the first one??? Is it the better graphics? Better physics? Better game modes? Better enemies?

They've improved on the original in every way possible... there is no reason for anyone to think R2 looks worse than the original at this point from what we've all heard and seen. Unless of course, you're hoping it's going to be worse...

Well it wasn't exactly hard to improve on the first one,was it? From what I've seen Resistance 2 still has a long way to go,until its able to compete with Gears.

[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Agreed.From what I've seen Resistance 2 looks even more dissapointing than the first one.Gears 2 will own.

SpruceCaboose

News flash...First one wasn't disappointing to most,

I am still planning on getting the first when I can find some free time and the game on the cheap, as I never did play it, and I want to give it a go.

Honestly, it feels like a pretty generic shooter at first, but once you start getting the more interesting weapons and mobs of chimera start attacking instead of groups of 3-4, it gets pretty interesting. I don't think I finished the single player, only coop, since MP got my attention but it was far from disappointing. It had some of the best AI at its release too which is never a bad thing if you like a challenge.

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

Atleast resistance 2 is better, gears 2 is just gears 1. Who wants to ppay 60$ plus live fees, plus and HDD(if you dot have one) to play the same gme/.

WillieBeamish

Who wants to pay $60 for the sequel of an underwhelming first-person space alien shooter? I haven't seen a R2 video that didn't put me to sleep.

agree....the game looks good but not fun at all

Flop confirmed :P

Just joking, don't grill me Gear heads.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"][QUOTE="WillieBeamish"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

Atleast resistance 2 is better, gears 2 is just gears 1. Who wants to ppay 60$ plus live fees, plus and HDD(if you dot have one) to play the same gme/.

GabeNewellsPie

Who wants to pay $60 for the sequel of an underwhelming first-person space alien shooter? I haven't seen a R2 video that didn't put me to sleep.

Agreed.From what I've seen Resistance 2 looks even more dissapointing than the first one.Gears 2 will own.

How does R2 look more dissapointing than the first one??? Is it the better graphics? Better physics? Better game modes? Better enemies?

They've improved on the original in every way possible... there is no reason for anyone to think R2 looks worse than the original at this point from what we've all heard and seen. Unless of course, you're hoping it's going to be worse...

Well it wasn't exactly hard to improve on the first one,was it? From what I've seen Resistance 2 still has a long way to go,until its able to compete with Gears.

So now you acknowledge that R2 has improved over the first one... yet a few seconds ago you were saying it looks more dissapointing than the first? And then take a cheap shot saying it wasnt hard to improve on??? I dont think the first Resistance was too shabby at all, especially considering it was a launch title for a complicated machine like the PS3 (which ironically... Gabe Newell trashed publicly... hmmm)... an 8.6 isnt too shabby at all in reality, is it???

Gears of War perfected the over-the-shoulder run and gun gameplay. In my opinion, I think it was quite revolutionary in what it did. Evidence of this: a slew of games following in it's footsteps attempting to mimick that same style of play.

I stopped reading the preview after the first paragraph.

HappyAppe

Except Gears mimicked RE4. Epic even says that it was a model for meachanics and inspiration. They did usher it into this generation though. I just think RE5 is going to show everyone how it's done :P

Don't judge a game by the previews...

So now you acknowledge that R2 has improved over the first one... yet a few seconds ago you were saying it looks more dissapointing than the first? And then take a cheap shot saying it wasnt hard to improve on??? I dont think the first Resistance was too shabby at all, especially considering it was a launch title for a complicated machine like the PS3 (which ironically... Gabe Newell trashed publicly... hmmm)... an 8.6 isnt too shabby at all in reality, is it???

carljohnson3456

Just because it looks a little better doesn't mean it can't be more dissapointing.This isn't 2006 anymore,standards have changed,games like Halo 3 and GeoW have been released since then and moved the genre along,Resistance 2 doesn't seem to meet these expectaions from what I've seen.

Don't judge a game by the previews...

sam280992

as ridiculous as your statement sounds, its true :?

You will be flamed you posted the negatives now that is flame bait.

They are complaining that there isn't some huge new leap with the cover system - what exactly were they expecting? It's one of the few aspects of Gears that was actually near-perfect and leaves little room for improvement.

I can speak to the corridor shooter comment, I'll have to play to find that out myself. The recent videos did seem a little more "boxed-in" then the the past environments, though.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

So now you acknowledge that R2 has improved over the first one... yet a few seconds ago you were saying it looks more dissapointing than the first? And then take a cheap shot saying it wasnt hard to improve on??? I dont think the first Resistance was too shabby at all, especially considering it was a launch title for a complicated machine like the PS3 (which ironically... Gabe Newell trashed publicly... hmmm)... an 8.6 isnt too shabby at all in reality, is it???

GabeNewellsPie

Just because it looks a little better doesn't mean it can't be more dissapointing.This isn't 2006 anymore,standards have changed,games like Halo 3 and GeoW have been released since then and moved the genre along,Resistance 2 doesn't seem to meet these expectaions from what I've seen.

Then using your logic, that doesn't mean GeoW2 can't be disappointing as well. At it's core, it's the same game and like you said, standards have changed. So what changes are you really expecting from an FPS anyways? Also, Halo 3 has really moved the genre along except for multiplayer components, it was Halo 1 that did.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

So now you acknowledge that R2 has improved over the first one... yet a few seconds ago you were saying it looks more dissapointing than the first? And then take a cheap shot saying it wasnt hard to improve on??? I dont think the first Resistance was too shabby at all, especially considering it was a launch title for a complicated machine like the PS3 (which ironically... Gabe Newell trashed publicly... hmmm)... an 8.6 isnt too shabby at all in reality, is it???

GabeNewellsPie

Just because it looks a little better doesn't mean it can't be more dissapointing.This isn't 2006 anymore,standards have changed,games like Halo 3 and GeoW have been released since then and moved the genre along,Resistance 2 doesn't seem to meet these expectaions from what I've seen.

despite your sig i agree.

Atleast resistance 2 is better, gears 2 is just gears 1. Who wants to ppay 60$ plus live fees, plus and HDD(if you dot have one) to play the same gme/.

Adrian_Cloud

You need to stop spending money on video games and go to school. The preview is very whiney in my book, never heard of the site for that matter either so I'll wait for a reliable preview, he never said anything bad just it was more of the same..that is what you expect in a sequal.

Who the Hell are "Bit-Tech?"

Have never even heard of them.

RuprechtMonkey

I kind of trust smaller gamesites when it comes to negative previews. Rarely do I ever see anything negative coming from the big gamesites.

[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

So now you acknowledge that R2 has improved over the first one... yet a few seconds ago you were saying it looks more dissapointing than the first? And then take a cheap shot saying it wasnt hard to improve on??? I dont think the first Resistance was too shabby at all, especially considering it was a launch title for a complicated machine like the PS3 (which ironically... Gabe Newell trashed publicly... hmmm)... an 8.6 isnt too shabby at all in reality, is it???

tmntPunchout

Just because it looks a little better doesn't mean it can't be more dissapointing.This isn't 2006 anymore,standards have changed,games like Halo 3 and GeoW have been released since then and moved the genre along,Resistance 2 doesn't seem to meet these expectaions from what I've seen.

Then using your logic, that doesn't mean GeoW2 can't be disappointing as well. At it's core, it's the same game and like you said, standards have changed. So what changes are you really expecting from an FPS anyways? Also, Halo 3 has really moved the genre along except for multiplayer components, it was Halo 1 that did.

Well Halo 3 must have been pretty good,I mean it only got 9.5 :roll:

And Gears 2 doesn't have to be a huge leap forward from the first one,because unlike Resistance,the devs totally nailed the gameplay in GeoW and anything else in Gears 2 is a bonus.

[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

So now you acknowledge that R2 has improved over the first one... yet a few seconds ago you were saying it looks more dissapointing than the first? And then take a cheap shot saying it wasnt hard to improve on??? I dont think the first Resistance was too shabby at all, especially considering it was a launch title for a complicated machine like the PS3 (which ironically... Gabe Newell trashed publicly... hmmm)... an 8.6 isnt too shabby at all in reality, is it???

GabeNewellsPie

Just because it looks a little better doesn't mean it can't be more dissapointing.This isn't 2006 anymore,standards have changed,games like Halo 3 and GeoW have been released since then and moved the genre along,Resistance 2 doesn't seem to meet these expectaions from what I've seen.

Then using your logic, that doesn't mean GeoW2 can't be disappointing as well. At it's core, it's the same game and like you said, standards have changed. So what changes are you really expecting from an FPS anyways? Also, Halo 3 has really moved the genre along except for multiplayer components, it was Halo 1 that did.

Well Halo 3 must have been pretty good,I mean it only got 9.5 :roll:

And Gears 2 doesn't have to be a huge leap forward from the first one,because unlike Resistance,the devs totally nailed the gameplay in GeoW and anything else in Gears 2 is a bonus.

I was just using your logic. I didn't put my own input other than saying Halo 3 didn't move the genre along. SHessh. And just because Halo scored a 9.5, doesn't mean it moved the genre along, it just means it's a good game. I also thought you said standards have changed but now you're saying GeoW2 doesn't need to change. Rarrr? I'm confused now, what exactly changed and didn't change then.

[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Agreed.From what I've seen Resistance 2 looks even more dissapointing than the first one.Gears 2 will own.

SpruceCaboose

News flash...First one wasn't disappointing to most,

I am still planning on getting the first when I can find some free time and the game on the cheap, as I never did play it, and I want to give it a go.

You should. Shock of shocks, here I am promoting a PS3 game, but yeah.... it was pretty fun. *I* liked it, anyways. :D

*EDIT* I am only referring to the campaign. I never played any of the multiplayer, so I dont know about that aspect of the game.

[QUOTE="doobie1975"]if it aint broken, dont fix it.Dreams-Visions

No it doesn't. Thats nothing more than damage control, giving Epic a pass for apparently resting on their laurels instead of attempting to innovate and expand on the original Gears of War with Gears 2.

Resistance wasn't broken (haters hold your tongues), in fact it was a deeper multiplayer shooter than Gears, and yet IG has put forth a ridiculous amount of effort to make Resistance 2 significantly better. There are a variety of ways to significantly improve a game without changing the core of the game which made it so successful in the first place.

Well it was for me.Going from playing Geow to Resistance made you see how poor it was next to Gears.

GabeNewellsPie

lol, have you even played Resistance?

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="doobie1975"]if it aint broken, dont fix it.Cloud_Insurance

No it doesn't. Thats nothing more than damage control, giving Epic a pass for apparently resting on their laurels instead of attempting to innovate and expand on the original Gears of War with Gears 2.

Resistance wasn't broken (haters hold your tongues), in fact it was a deeper multiplayer shooter than Gears, and yet IG has put forth a ridiculous amount of effort to make Resistance 2 significantly better. There are a variety of ways to significantly improve a game without changing the core of the game which made it so successful in the first place.

Yes, it does. If they drastically changed the gameplay, it wouldnt be Gears anymore. How is that a good thing? They have apparently fleshed out the campaign story more, have tweaked things, given more environments and executions, and added more "toys" to kill each other with.... where is the fallacy in that????

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="doobie1975"]if it aint broken, dont fix it.Cloud_Insurance

No it doesn't. Thats nothing more than damage control, giving Epic a pass for apparently resting on their laurels instead of attempting to innovate and expand on the original Gears of War with Gears 2.

Resistance wasn't broken (haters hold your tongues), in fact it was a deeper multiplayer shooter than Gears, and yet IG has put forth a ridiculous amount of effort to make Resistance 2 significantly better. There are a variety of ways to significantly improve a game without changing the core of the game which made it so successful in the first place.

[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Well it was for me.Going from playing Geow to Resistance made you see how poor it was next to Gears.

Cloud_Insurance

lol, have you even played Resistance?

I have. I wont bang on Resistance, because it was an enjoyable game... however, it paled next to Gears, for me. Gears just had alot more exciting and intense moments.

[QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="doobie1975"]if it aint broken, dont fix it.Dante2710

No it doesn't. Thats nothing more than damage control, giving Epic a pass for apparently resting on their laurels instead of attempting to innovate and expand on the original Gears of War with Gears 2.

Resistance wasn't broken (haters hold your tongues), in fact it was a deeper multiplayer shooter than Gears, and yet IG has put forth a ridiculous amount of effort to make Resistance 2 significantly better. There are a variety of ways to significantly improve a game without changing the core of the game which made it so successful in the first place.

Yeah im with Dante here. While Resistance MP was fun, in no way was it deep. It was very basic but fun nonetheless. If you want deep, play sum Warhawk :D

Yeah im with Dante here. While Resistance MP was fun, in no way was it deep. It was very basic but fun nonetheless. If you want deep, play sum Warhawk :D

II_Seraphim_II

[QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="doobie1975"]if it aint broken, dont fix it.Dante2710

No it doesn't. Thats nothing more than damage control, giving Epic a pass for apparently resting on their laurels instead of attempting to innovate and expand on the original Gears of War with Gears 2.

Resistance wasn't broken (haters hold your tongues), in fact it was a deeper multiplayer shooter than Gears, and yet IG has put forth a ridiculous amount of effort to make Resistance 2 significantly better. There are a variety of ways to significantly improve a game without changing the core of the game which made it so successful in the first place.

Ah, another poster that hasn't played Resistance. Compared to Gears, the first Resistance had:

more multiplayer gametypes

more maps

more weapons

2 different races with distinct advantages/disadvantages

more potential players per match (up to 40)

So um, how exactly was Gears multiplayer deeper than Resistance again?

That preview simple smacks of a guy expecting all the wrong things. It's been made in less than two years since the original, yet he complains that they havent completely overhauled the cover system? Why would they? What was wrong with it? Why is he saying it's a corridor shooter as if that makes it a bad game? Is BioShock not a corridor shooter? :?

Ah, another poster that hasn't played Resistance. Compared to Gears, the first Resistance had:

more multiplayer gametypes

more maps

more weapons

2 different races with distinct advantages/disadvantages

more potential players per match (up to 40)

So um, how exactly was Gears multiplayer deeper than Resistance again?

Cloud_Insurance

Yes, it does. If they drastically changed the gameplay, it wouldnt be Gears anymore. How is that a good thing? They have apparently fleshed out the campaign story more, have tweaked things, given more environments and executions, and added more "toys" to kill each other with.... where is the fallacy in that????

JediRiff

Thats why I said in my first post:

"There are a variety of ways to significantly improve a game without changing the core of the game which made it so successful in the first place."

Look at all the new features/improvements in Resistance 2. Its pretty damn significant. And yet, the gameplay is the same.

I expect more than "tweeks" in a sequel. So far, I haven't seen it from Gears 2. Sure, its possible the devs have done more for the sequel than what has been released. But as of right now, the improvements/changes are not looking that impressive...especially when compared to Resistance 2.

Ah, another poster that hasn't played Resistance. Compared to Gears, the first Resistance had:

more multiplayer gametypes

more maps

more weapons

2 different races with distinct advantages/disadvantages

more potential players per match (up to 40)

So um, how exactly was Gears multiplayer deeper than Resistance again?

Cloud_Insurance

"Deep" is entirely subjective. You could easily argue that Gears had a fairly unique set up of small teams fighting over tight spaces; it forced strategy and team work, especially thanks to the no respawns. I'm not hating on resistance at all, i'm just saying i'd have to disagree with you to write off Gears' multiplayer in favour of it. They're both simply shooters with online modes, at the end of the day.

As for Epic being lazy, i dont understand why Resistance is being seen as such an epic advancement over the first. It isn't massively improved graphically, and i honestly cant see what all the fuss is about. What exactly have they added? More players online? Huge bosses? That's the innovation and expansion you're bragging about?

Look at all the new features/improvements in Resistance 2. Its pretty damn significant. And yet, the gameplay is the same.

Cloud_Insurance

Like what? What are the "pretty damn significant" changes?

[QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"]

Ah, another poster that hasn't played Resistance. Compared to Gears, the first Resistance had:

more multiplayer gametypes

more maps

more weapons

2 different races with distinct advantages/disadvantages

more potential players per match (up to 40)

So um, how exactly was Gears multiplayer deeper than Resistance again?

Dante2710

lol, um tf2 has nothing to do with anything. Why are you talking about a CLASS BASED FPS in a thread about Gears and Resistance?

lol, um tf2 has nothing to do with anything. Why are you talking about a CLASS BASED FPS in a thread about Gears and Resistance?

Cloud_Insurance

He's just giving an example of a multiplayer game which actually is deep. Because resistance aint one of them. Halo 3, TF2 and Battlefield are very "deep" multiplayer games.