[QUOTE="farnham"]yay another overhyped flop for the PS3GoldenCry
Damage control.
or the truth? you call it what you want, but so far it's been the truth for every single game you cows have hyped. :lol:
NEW HEAVENLY SWORD FOOTAGE...(not from the other day!!)
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[QUOTE="-Pale"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]Come on people. Don't let some crafty editing fool you.
LOOK at the background.
CarlosPontinas
I don't know if you were watching the video properly or not, but there IS a background. It might not be one you want to acknowledge, the game also has a draw distance of 10km and according to the developer there's only 5km of stuff in this level. Maybe that's why you're so confused.I assure you the only confusion here is confusing good production values for bad. I don't care what you say, there are NO backgrounds in this game. What is there is known as a lightdome in the business. It's a sphere with a large map thrown on it and 100% self illumination. The only details in this game are the characters.
You don't need to take my word for it now, but you'll be hearing more and more about this... especially when this game underscores.
Interesting that when you quoted him you left out this pic:....the one that clearly shows the backgrounds :roll:
[QUOTE="-Pale"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]Come on people. Don't let some crafty editing fool you.
LOOK at the background.
fuzzysquash
I don't know if you were watching the video properly or not, but there IS a background. It might not be one you want to acknowledge, the game also has a draw distance of 10km and according to the developer there's only 5km of stuff in this level. Maybe that's why you're so confused. ownage approved....what kind of bizarre argument is it to say that a game has no background? :? You don't seem to appreciate what is being said to you. Watch the video, only this time ignore the characters.[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="-Pale"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]Come on people. Don't let some crafty editing fool you.
LOOK at the background.
CarlosPontinas
I don't know if you were watching the video properly or not, but there IS a background. It might not be one you want to acknowledge, the game also has a draw distance of 10km and according to the developer there's only 5km of stuff in this level. Maybe that's why you're so confused. ownage approved....what kind of bizarre argument is it to say that a game has no background? :? You don't seem to appreciate what is being said to you. Watch the video, only this time ignore the characters.Okay...the backgrounds are blurred to portray the mist of the mountains and the midday heat haze...
And here are some backgrounds not set in high mountains with very clear backgrounds:Your explanation?
[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="-Pale"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]Come on people. Don't let some crafty editing fool you.
LOOK at the background.
fuzzysquash
I don't know if you were watching the video properly or not, but there IS a background. It might not be one you want to acknowledge, the game also has a draw distance of 10km and according to the developer there's only 5km of stuff in this level. Maybe that's why you're so confused.I assure you the only confusion here is confusing good production values for bad. I don't care what you say, there are NO backgrounds in this game. What is there is known as a lightdome in the business. It's a sphere with a large map thrown on it and 100% self illumination. The only details in this game are the characters.
You don't need to take my word for it now, but you'll be hearing more and more about this... especially when this game underscores.
Interesting that when you quoted him you left out this pic:....the one that clearly shows the backgrounds :roll:
Those are concepts, not the final game.
[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="-Pale"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]Come on people. Don't let some crafty editing fool you.
LOOK at the background.
CarlosPontinas
I don't know if you were watching the video properly or not, but there IS a background. It might not be one you want to acknowledge, the game also has a draw distance of 10km and according to the developer there's only 5km of stuff in this level. Maybe that's why you're so confused.I assure you the only confusion here is confusing good production values for bad. I don't care what you say, there are NO backgrounds in this game. What is there is known as a lightdome in the business. It's a sphere with a large map thrown on it and 100% self illumination. The only details in this game are the characters.
You don't need to take my word for it now, but you'll be hearing more and more about this... especially when this game underscores.
Interesting that when you quoted him you left out this pic:....the one that clearly shows the backgrounds :roll:
Those a concepts not the final game. the bottom and top left one's are clearly in-game. You can see the character swinging her blades in both of them.
another backgroundThat's the last image I would have chosen to promote the environments in this game. Are you blind?
fuzzysquash
[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]another backgroundThat's the last image I would have chosen to promote the environments in this game. Are you blind? No, are you? You were looking for backgrounds, weren't you? You got it.
CarlosPontinas
[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]another backgroundThat's the last image I would have chosen to promote the environments in this game. Are you blind? No, are you? You were looking for backgrounds, weren't you? You got it. Take a look at the ground.
fuzzysquash
[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]another backgroundThat's the last image I would have chosen to promote the environments in this game. Are you blind? No, are you? You were looking for backgrounds, weren't you? You got it. Take a look at the ground. I see it. Nice try dodging the topic. You claimed that HS has no background. I gave you pics of backgrounds. Now you're trying to back out by changing the subject. Typical strategy :roll:
CarlosPontinas
[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]another backgroundThat's the last image I would have chosen to promote the environments in this game. Are you blind? Have you ever heard of consistancy besides no hud equals not gameplay and we know now the game has a hud.
CarlosPontinas
[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]another backgroundThat's the last image I would have chosen to promote the environments in this game. Are you blind? No, are you? You were looking for backgrounds, weren't you? You got it. Take a look at the ground. I see it. Nice try dodging the topic. You claimed that HS has no background. I gave you pics of backgrounds. Now you're trying to back out by changing the subject. Typical strategy :roll: I'm showing you you're dealing with basic geometry and flat maps. This is a terrible excuse for an environment. Most software house would sack you if you turned that in for a days work.
fuzzysquash
That's the last image I would have chosen to promote the environments in this game. Are you blind? No, are you? You were looking for backgrounds, weren't you? You got it. Take a look at the ground. I see it. Nice try dodging the topic. You claimed that HS has no background. I gave you pics of backgrounds. Now you're trying to back out by changing the subject. Typical strategy :roll: I'm showing you you're dealing with basic geometry and flat maps. This is a terrible excuse for an environment. Most software house would sack you if you turned that in for a days work.1) that screenshot was released awhile ago[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]another background
CarlosPontinas
2) These are your exact words:
doesn't anyone else notice there is no environment in this game?CarlosPontinas
I showed you a background, even if it's from an earlier development stage. Clearly not every stage in this game is going to have as much depth of field as a heat-hazed mountain top. You have yet to admit that you were wrong. This game does have an environment, and in the face of overwhelming proof, you still deny it or try to change the subject.
[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]That's the last image I would have chosen to promote the environments in this game. Are you blind? No, are you? You were looking for backgrounds, weren't you? You got it. Take a look at the ground. I see it. Nice try dodging the topic. You claimed that HS has no background. I gave you pics of backgrounds. Now you're trying to back out by changing the subject. Typical strategy :roll: I'm showing you you're dealing with basic geometry and flat maps. This is a terrible excuse for an environment. Most software house would sack you if you turned that in for a days work.1) that screenshot was released awhile ago[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]another background
fuzzysquash
2) These are your exact words:
doesn't anyone else notice there is no environment in this game?CarlosPontinas
I showed you a background, even if it's from an earlier development stage. Clearly not every stage in this game is going to have as much depth of field as a heat-hazed mountain top. You have yet to admit that you were wrong. This game does have an environment, and in the face of overwhelming proof, you still deny it or try to change the subject.
No you misquoted him, when he said that it didn't have backgrounds he clearly means quality. I think even a blind man could see that the game has backgrounds but the quality of those backgrounds are well... BTW environment is completely different than backgrounds.
[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]That's the last image I would have chosen to promote the environments in this game. Are you blind? No, are you? You were looking for backgrounds, weren't you? You got it. Take a look at the ground. I see it. Nice try dodging the topic. You claimed that HS has no background. I gave you pics of backgrounds. Now you're trying to back out by changing the subject. Typical strategy :roll: I'm showing you you're dealing with basic geometry and flat maps. This is a terrible excuse for an environment. Most software house would sack you if you turned that in for a days work.1) that screenshot was released awhile ago[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]another background
fuzzysquash
2) These are your exact words:
doesn't anyone else notice there is no environment in this game?CarlosPontinas
I showed you a background, even if it's from an earlier development stage. Clearly not every stage in this game is going to have as much depth of field as a heat-hazed mountain top. You have yet to admit that you were wrong. This game does have an environment, and in the face of overwhelming proof, you still deny it or try to change the subject.
Dude why do you even bother with the little rodent? All he does is bash anything PS3 so there's nothing to talk about with him. He's just nitpicking. Apart from Motorstorm, I'm not sure how many games don't have "flat" ground anyways. They look good if you don't look at the ground from that angle anyways.
[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]That's the last image I would have chosen to promote the environments in this game. Are you blind? No, are you? You were looking for backgrounds, weren't you? You got it. Take a look at the ground. I see it. Nice try dodging the topic. You claimed that HS has no background. I gave you pics of backgrounds. Now you're trying to back out by changing the subject. Typical strategy :roll: I'm showing you you're dealing with basic geometry and flat maps. This is a terrible excuse for an environment. Most software house would sack you if you turned that in for a days work.1) that screenshot was released awhile ago[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]another background
DGZeus
2) These are your exact words:
doesn't anyone else notice there is no environment in this game?CarlosPontinas
I showed you a background, even if it's from an earlier development stage. Clearly not every stage in this game is going to have as much depth of field as a heat-hazed mountain top. You have yet to admit that you were wrong. This game does have an environment, and in the face of overwhelming proof, you still deny it or try to change the subject.
No you misquoted him, when he said that it didn't have backgrounds he clearly means quality. I think even a blind could see that the game has backgrounds but the quality of those backgrounds are well... No, he wasn't talking about quality. He said that because the blur effect was used on the mountaintop, that there was in fact no environment in this game--that in fact, NT had used the blur effect to hide the fact that there was no environment. My point was that the mountaintop stage is blurred, but not all stages are, and there are clearly environmental backgrounds in this game. Look at the quote--if he meant something else, he should not have stated it the way he did. And to dodge the topic, he later altered his remarks to criticize the quality of the environments, rather than sticking with his original statement which was that blur effects were used to hide the fact that there were no environments in the game.
[QUOTE="DGZeus"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]That's the last image I would have chosen to promote the environments in this game. Are you blind? No, are you? You were looking for backgrounds, weren't you? You got it. Take a look at the ground. I see it. Nice try dodging the topic. You claimed that HS has no background. I gave you pics of backgrounds. Now you're trying to back out by changing the subject. Typical strategy :roll: I'm showing you you're dealing with basic geometry and flat maps. This is a terrible excuse for an environment. Most software house would sack you if you turned that in for a days work.1) that screenshot was released awhile ago[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]another background
fuzzysquash
2) These are your exact words:
doesn't anyone else notice there is no environment in this game?CarlosPontinas
I showed you a background, even if it's from an earlier development stage. Clearly not every stage in this game is going to have as much depth of field as a heat-hazed mountain top. You have yet to admit that you were wrong. This game does have an environment, and in the face of overwhelming proof, you still deny it or try to change the subject.
No you misquoted him, when he said that it didn't have backgrounds he clearly means quality. I think even a blind could see that the game has backgrounds but the quality of those backgrounds are well... No, he wasn't talking about quality. He said that because the blur effect was used on the mountaintop, that there was in fact no environment in this game--that in fact, NT had used the blur effect to hide the fact that there was no environment. My point was that the mountaintop stage is blurred, but not all stages are, and there are clearly environmental backgrounds in this game. Look at the quote--if he meant something else, he should not have stated it the way he did. And to dodge the topic, he later altered his remarks to criticize the quality of the environments, rather than sticking with his original statement which was that blur effects were used to hide the fact that there were no environments in the game.
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