New IP: Horizon Zero Dawn. Robot Dinosaurs!

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#152  Edited By Skelly34
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@StrongBlackVine: It's true, there's no way in hell Horizon will maintain those graphics in the actual release. To think otherwise is either being overly optimistic or a fanboy.

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#153 Shottayouth13-
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Looks good. My favourite game from the conference.

Day jaun.

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#154 princeofshapeir
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Best exclusive shown this E3 IMO.

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#155 playharderfool
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@-God- said:
@skelly34 said:

Cows are going to be so disappointed when Horizon and UC4 look absolutely nothing like they did in their trailers.

I can't believe how often they get tricked. ND and GG did it to them 4 times in a row and they still get fooled. Cows are the most Kool Aid drinking gamerfaction on Earth.

And all for what, all so they can say they have 2nd best gfx for a few months until the game actually comes out?

REALITY

How soon they forget! You guys have been screaming downgrade since Infamous Second Son, I figured you guys would get tired of being proven wrong. We heard the same things for these games above, then damage control and silence.

I don't think cows have anything to worry about concerning graphics and downgrades like we saw with The Witcher 3, but the anguish and obvious butthurt shown in posts like yours over this games graphics are nice to see.

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#156  Edited By Skelly34
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@playharderfool said:
@-God- said:
@skelly34 said:

Cows are going to be so disappointed when Horizon and UC4 look absolutely nothing like they did in their trailers.

I can't believe how often they get tricked. ND and GG did it to them 4 times in a row and they still get fooled. Cows are the most Kool Aid drinking gamerfaction on Earth.

And all for what, all so they can say they have 2nd best gfx for a few months until the game actually comes out?

REALITY

How soon they forget! You guys have been screaming downgrade since Infamous Second Son, I figured you guys would get tired of being proven wrong. We heard the same things for these games above, then damage control and silence.

I don't think cows have anything to worry about concerning graphics and downgrades like we saw with The Witcher 3, but the anguish and obvious butthurt shown in posts like yours over this games graphics are nice to see.

Oh dear, I think we all remember how this ends

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#157  Edited By playharderfool
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@skelly34 said:

Oh dear, I think we all remember how this ends

How exactly, my feverish lem friend? Damage control?

There is no downplaying the fact that these game's retained their graphical impressiveness upon release and no matter how hard fanboys try to nitpick Digital Foundry already weighted in to swat false and downplaying statements fanboys come up with.

Those games are out and people are able to play them, they are arguably the best looking games in either genre, don't' really know what you are trying to suggest with your comment lol.

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#158  Edited By Skelly34
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@playharderfool said:
@skelly34 said:

Oh dear, I think we all remember how this ends

How exactly, my feverish lem friend? Damage control?

There is no downplaying the fact that these game's retained their graphical impressiveness upon release and no matter how hard fanboys try to nitpick Digital Foundry already weighted in to swat false and downplaying statements fanboys come up with.

Those games are out and people are able to play them, they are arguably the best looking games in either genre, don't' really know what you are trying to suggest with your comment lol.

Oh! A cow has mistaken me for mortal.

It ends in the calling out of:

-those are screenshots, not actual game footage.

-those were taken in an "in game engine" not actually in play on a PS4.

-pictures do not account for framerate, imagine the PS4's horrible FPS with those graphics.

-if you take away the blur and lighting, the game actually has PS2 level graphics, there are areas in the game where it's obvious that there are poor textures.

-the bottom one is a tech demo, probably ran on a PC instead of a PS4.

Among other things, of course. do you really own a PS4? You should know very well your games do not look like that.

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#159  Edited By QuadKnight
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@laus_basic said:

some screenshots

Jaysis, makes Tomb Raider look like a PS2 game. Add this is open world too? :O LAWD!

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#160 silversix_
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@skelly34 said:

@StrongBlackVine: It's true, there's no way in hell Horizon will maintain those graphics in the actual release. To think otherwise is either being overly optimistic or a fanboy.

kinda scary seeing those kind of visuals on an hd7850 and a cellphone cpu, isn't it? Don't you remember how good Killzone 2 looked compared to anything released on consoles back then? If there's a dev that can make good visuals its GG/ND.

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#161  Edited By Nengo_Flow
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@charizard1605 said:

Do we know when it is out?

2016

most likely late 2016

they have been working on the game for 4 years, so you can bet there wont having delays or rushed unpolished buggy product. GG has always been great when it come to delivering there products well polished and on time.

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#162 Skelly34
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@silversix_ said:
@skelly34 said:

@StrongBlackVine: It's true, there's no way in hell Horizon will maintain those graphics in the actual release. To think otherwise is either being overly optimistic or a fanboy.

kinda scary seeing those kind of visuals on an hd7850 and a cellphone cpu, isn't it? Don't you remember how good Killzone 2 looked compared to anything released on consoles back then? If there's a dev that can make good visuals its GG/ND.

I'll believe it when I see it

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#163 Heil68
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@Nengo_Flow said:
@charizard1605 said:

Do we know when it is out?

2016

most likely late 2016

they have been working on the game for 4 years, so you can bet there wont having delays or rushed unpolished buggy product. GG has always been great when it come to delivering there products well polished and on time.

That would be fair I think. Although there's nothing stopping them to put it to 2017, As long as they release a finished game, thats all i care about. 2014 was horrible for rushed games and delays,

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#164 silversix_
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@skelly34 said:
@silversix_ said:
@skelly34 said:

@StrongBlackVine: It's true, there's no way in hell Horizon will maintain those graphics in the actual release. To think otherwise is either being overly optimistic or a fanboy.

kinda scary seeing those kind of visuals on an hd7850 and a cellphone cpu, isn't it? Don't you remember how good Killzone 2 looked compared to anything released on consoles back then? If there's a dev that can make good visuals its GG/ND.

I'll believe it when I see it

and when you do see it, you'll find something new to bitch about.

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#165  Edited By -God-
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@silversix_ said:

and when you do see it, you'll find something new to bitch about.

like when these were the gfx kings

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#166 Skelly34
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@silversix_ said:
@skelly34 said:
@silversix_ said:
@skelly34 said:

@StrongBlackVine: It's true, there's no way in hell Horizon will maintain those graphics in the actual release. To think otherwise is either being overly optimistic or a fanboy.

kinda scary seeing those kind of visuals on an hd7850 and a cellphone cpu, isn't it? Don't you remember how good Killzone 2 looked compared to anything released on consoles back then? If there's a dev that can make good visuals its GG/ND.

I'll believe it when I see it

and when you do see it, you'll find something new to bitch about.

Not if it's actually a good game.

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#167 silversix_
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@-God- said:
@silversix_ said:

and when you do see it, you'll find something new to bitch about.

like when these were the gfx kings

gratz i can also find fugly ass pics of pc games, imagine that!

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#168 Ross_the_Boss6
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Definitely the best thing at Sony's conference, gameplay looked amazing. This could be what pushes me to buy a PS4.

The only thing that has me worried is it's made by Guerrilla Games. Killzone is a pretty mediocre series all things considered.

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#169  Edited By -God-
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@silversix_ said:
@-God- said:
@silversix_ said:

and when you do see it, you'll find something new to bitch about.

like when these were the gfx kings

gratz i can also find fugly ass pics of pc games, imagine that!

Because settings on TO and DC can totally be lowered to trick people on da interwebs.

I'm sorry but those were direct feeds from peoples PS4. Those are how both games look. I can post quite a bit more if you don't trust me.

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#170 silversix_
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@-God- said:
@silversix_ said:
@-God- said:
@silversix_ said:

and when you do see it, you'll find something new to bitch about.

like when these were the gfx kings

gratz i can also find fugly ass pics of pc games, imagine that!

Because settings on TO and DC can totally be lowered to trick people on da interwebs.

I'm sorry but those were direct feeds from peoples PS4. Those are how both games look. I can post quite a bit more if you don't trust me.

First of all i don't trust god. secondly your account wasn't made in 1990. I don't trust you, you gotta live with that.

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#171 PS4hasNOgames
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@lostrib: i guess its time for you to get a ps4

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#172  Edited By Snugenz
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Shadow Fall looked pretty damn good when it was first revealed too...

So yeah, i'll wait for the reviews before even considering another Geurilla game

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#173 lostrib
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@ps4hasnogames said:

@lostrib: i guess its time for you to get a ps4

not really

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#174 tushar172787
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@StrongBlackVine said:

@tushar172787: by rumors you mean idiot fanboys that have no idea what they are talking about. What PS4 exclusive has been downgraded so far upon release.

all games start good looking, but when they start developing the game, they will get held up by hardware limitations and will get downgraded upon release. i'm not saying it will definitely get downgraded but there is still a chance.

@StrongBlackVine said:

@tushar172787: They showed gameplay. Are you really this stupid?

half of that 'gameplay' was cutscenes. uncharted 4 showed full gameplay for 7 minutes and if you look at the surroundings, they all look crystal clear and the gameplay mechanics worked perfectly. i can bet you that it won't get downgraded upon release. meanwhile horizon's surroundings look blurred, all that the character did was kill two creatures in 2 minutes without showing any of the surroundings and then it ended.

@skelly34 said:
@FastRobby said:
@lglz1337 said:

you are the ignorant obviously!

but keep hoping for a downgrade it will make you feel positive

haha

I don't hope for downgrades. That's the difference between me, and you. You actually wish that shit happens to the other system, I don't. The better Sony performs, the more Microsoft has to do, to do better. win-win. But I am realistic enough to know that those graphics won't be in-game

Remember what cows said about this?

Hahahah, Horizon characters are going to have the textures of starbursts and cotton candy.

Poor, poor cows.

@StrongBlackVine said:

@skelly34: OK I remember why I left now. Too many idiots like this that make normal discussion impossible.

and the fact that you're dodging from skelly34 by calling him an 'idiot' when he showed you clear proof isn't really in your best interests. and there goes your "what PS4 exclusive has been downgraded so far upon release" question.

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#175  Edited By lglz1337
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@tushar172787: su you don't know shit!

i played a good chunk of this game and it looks just as good as the real-time cutscene!

in fact it will even look better when they realease this game, gpgpu isn't even optimized yet

even people at the conference didn't noticed the transistion from cutscene to gameplay!

all those wanabee devs stfu

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#176  Edited By tushar172787
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@lglz1337 said:

@tushar172787: su you don't know shit!

i played a good chunk of this game and it looks just as good as the real-time cutscene!

in fact it will even look better when they realease this game, gpgpu isn't even optimized yet

even people at the conference didn't noticed the transistion from cutscene to gameplay!

all those wanabee devs stfu

haha, when did i say i was a dev? you can't even spell "wannabee", "release", "transition" and you call yourself a dev? and by gpgpu i think you mean gpu.

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#177  Edited By lglz1337
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@tushar172787: spelling wars moving goalpoast.

and no it's gpgpu

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General-purpose_computing_on_graphics_processing_units

go educate yourself and no i'm not a dev, stop making shit up

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#178 Litchie
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Looked cool, graphically. No idea what the full game is going to be like, but if it's kind of like Monster Hunter, it will probably be awesome.

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#179 tushar172787
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@lglz1337 said:

@tushar172787: spelling wars moving goalpoast.

and no it's gpgpu

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General-purpose_computing_on_graphics_processing_units

go educate yourself and no i'm not a dev, stop making shit up

oh, ok,i didn't know that. and how exactly did you assume i was trying to be a dev when i said i same to you, then you say "i'm not a dev, stop making shit up" , i accept that i don't know what gpgpu means and learn something new everyday unlike you who thinks he always the right guy any day, anytime. typical stubborn attitude of yours i guess ;).

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#180 lglz1337
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@tushar172787: this time around i'm pretty sure i know what's going on at GGames and you're not!

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#181 Zethrickk382
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This game is really striking all the right notes for me.

For those that care Guerrilla will be streaming the game today on twitch.

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#182  Edited By musalala
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Just to be negative nelly , Guerrilla are not the most talented developers outside of making visually impressive games many of their games tend to be boring storywise and gameplaywise

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#184 AM-Gamer
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@skelly34: Apparently you like getting Rekt? Real ingame screenshots of games already out prove you wrong.

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#185 AzatiS
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@lostrib: Looks interesting and all but i have to see more of this game before i call it awesome or something.

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#186  Edited By Skelly34
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@AM-Gamer:

You seem lost in fanboy delusion. I'll just mark this convo down and make a thread about the downgrade when Horizon actually comes out. Good day, my friend.

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#187 PS4hasNOgames
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@lostrib said:

The new IP from Guerrilla games, where you appear to be some sort of post apocalyptic hunter-gatherer that hunts robot dinosaurs.

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I have no idea why you appear to be hunting robots for food, but looks interesting

now if only pc can get a high quality big name new IP that isn't a top-down warcraft borefest that was developed in a garage in a third world country.

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#188  Edited By nervmeister
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A Clockwork Origin (Futurama) anyone? Guerilla essentially took the middle of that episode and turned it into a game.

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#189  Edited By AM-Gamer
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@skelly34: Are you going to compare two different cutscenes that are both in the game and claim that's a downgrade like you did with UC2?

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#190 Demonjoe93
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I thought the game looked great.

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#191 mems_1224
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@skelly34 said:

@StrongBlackVine: It's true, there's no way in hell Horizon will maintain those graphics in the actual release. To think otherwise is either being overly optimistic or a fanboy.

wouldn't be the first or second time that GG/Sony lied about the graphical quality of their games.

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#192  Edited By AznbkdX
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This is one of those games where I feel like I want to find a ton of flaws because of the dev working on it, but on the other hand I also applaud the game for being interesting and fresh.

I feel conflicted but do hope that it turns out decent in the end. This is probably my GOTS even if I don't feel good about Guerrilla in general.

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#193  Edited By deactivated-5ebea105efb64
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Shadow of the colossus with f'ing robots? Awesome day 1 buy.

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#194 StrongBlackVine
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@-God- said:
@silversix_ said:
@-God- said:
@silversix_ said:

and when you do see it, you'll find something new to bitch about.

like when these were the gfx kings

gratz i can also find fugly ass pics of pc games, imagine that!

Because settings on TO and DC can totally be lowered to trick people on da interwebs.

I'm sorry but those were direct feeds from peoples PS4. Those are how both games look. I can post quite a bit more if you don't trust me.

Direct capture from PS4 are not representative of the actual quality of the game. Sony really needs to upgrade to PNG files like the Xbox One is using now instead of these compressed JPEGs.

Unless you are trying to say those were captured with an external capture card and I would call BS.

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#195  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@musalala said:

Just to be negative nelly , Guerrilla are not the most talented developers outside of making visually impressive games many of their games tend to be boring storywise and gameplaywise

Guerrilla hired the lead writer of Fallout: New Vegas, the co-designer of the Nemesis system from Shadow Of Mordor(same guy that wrote New Vegas!) and quest designer that worked on The Witcher 3(Bloody Baron among many others) from CD Projekt Red along with other RPG talent. So I think they recognized their weaknesses and have addressed them.

It's not the same group that made Killzone just attempting a RPG now.

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#196  Edited By remiks00
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I hope this game becomes one of my favorites this gen. So far, GG has delivered on the hype for me. I had a feeling this game was going to be something special the moment I saw that creative concept art. It has a monster hunter vibe about it, so it's right up my alley.

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#198  Edited By jsmoke03
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yea, this was the best new ip i saw.

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#199 musalala
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@StrongBlackVine said:
@musalala said:

Just to be negative nelly , Guerrilla are not the most talented developers outside of making visually impressive games many of their games tend to be boring storywise and gameplaywise

Guerrilla hired the lead writer of Fallout: New Vegas, the co-designer of the Nemesis system from Shadow Of Mordor(same guy that wrote New Vegas!) and quest designer that worked on The Witcher 3(Bloody Baron among many others) from CD Projekt Red along with other RPG talent. So I think they recognized their weaknesses and have addressed them.

It's not the same group that made Killzone just attempting a RPG now.

Chris Avellone is working for GG, he was the lead writer for fallout if so I have hope, Truth be told if it turned out to be another shadowfall I would still buy it

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#200 HowlingLotus
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Robo dinosaurs? Sign me up!

It looks great, but like anything newly announced I'll wait before I praise the graphics. Was that really in engine or some nice bullshoting... because that never happens or CGI trailers to announce something.