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#101 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] it's a fun rush map.BrunoBRS

It's an excellent rush map

yesterday i found out about the glory that is squad rush. everyone is so welcoming too, since it's such a niche mode :P

Yeah the squad modes are really fun and squad rush is great.

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#102 PC4lifeman2233
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[QUOTE="PC4lifeman2233"][QUOTE="Nohtnym"]

Yes, that makes mw3 alot better, since its pretty much same as mw2 (with updates graphics, animations, new guns+gadgets and perk systems). Plus there is probably more, dont remember now since its 2 or so years since I played mw2 on pc.

Nohtnym

The graphics, animation, etc. have been been pretty much the same since CoD4 and everything else is pretty much an add-on.

You are wrong, or near blind.

Mw3 is alot better than mw2.

How am I wrong or blind?
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#103 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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COD is better than BF, seriously Bad Company 2 was one of the biggest rip offs I ever wasted money on. It's just so boring, the campaign sucks, the MP has too big of maps so you rarely ever come across anyone to kill.

Destrucatble enviornments and dropping bullets are cool and all, but they don't make up for the boring ass gameplay.

It comes to no surprise that MW3 is the better game, sure COD may not have changed much but at least it's fun!

ShadowMoses900

You spouted this garbage before and your reasons behind it were all down to you not knowing how to play the game. You said you never saw anyone to kill and couldn't get any vehicles at all to get across the map

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#104 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

It's an excellent rush map

seanmcloughlin

yesterday i found out about the glory that is squad rush. everyone is so welcoming too, since it's such a niche mode :P

Yeah the squad modes are really fun and squad rush is great.

squad DM you need a full squad of friends that will stick with you, or else it's very hard to do anything. the tank is also fairly cheap in a lot of maps >.>
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#105 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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MW3 is the better sum of the parts; great campaign and a great multiplayer to boot. BF3? Only great multiplayer with a weak singleplayer.
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#106 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] yesterday i found out about the glory that is squad rush. everyone is so welcoming too, since it's such a niche mode :PBrunoBRS

Yeah the squad modes are really fun and squad rush is great.

squad DM you need a full squad of friends that will stick with you, or else it's very hard to do anything. the tank is also fairly cheap in a lot of maps >.>

Everytime I play SQDM I play on a tank disable server. I also play it in Hardcore mode because I love watching guys drop with only a few shots.

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#107 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

COD is better than BF, seriously Bad Company 2 was one of the biggest rip offs I ever wasted money on. It's just so boring, the campaign sucks, the MP has too big of maps so you rarely ever come across anyone to kill.

Destrucatble enviornments and dropping bullets are cool and all, but they don't make up for the boring ass gameplay.

It comes to no surprise that MW3 is the better game, sure COD may not have changed much but at least it's fun!

seanmcloughlin

You spouted this garbage before and your reasons behind it were all down to you not knowing how to play the game. You said you never saw anyone to kill and couldn't get any vehicles at all to get across the map

It's not "garbage" it's my experience with the game. Stop living in a box, other people have different expereinces with games than you do, other people don't like the same games you do. It's called life, get outside and expereince it, you'll learn that people are different and not everyone shares your opinion.

I'm not the only one who has that opinion either, many people do. I played Bad Company 2 for about 2 weeks and it was the same, just boring. I played the BF3 beta and same thing, boring.

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#108 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

GS also bashed Zelda for "not really changing toe core formula." Meanwhile, they praised MW3, essentially saying that it delivers more of the same fun...

I love inconsistency.

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Different reviewers, different tastes

the thing is that I'm pretty sure that VanOrd also praised Mega Man 10, saying "some formulas don't need to change."

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#109 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Yeah the squad modes are really fun and squad rush is great.

seanmcloughlin

squad DM you need a full squad of friends that will stick with you, or else it's very hard to do anything. the tank is also fairly cheap in a lot of maps >.>

Everytime I play SQDM I play on a tank disable server. I also play it in Hardcore mode because I love watching guys drop with only a few shots.

they already drop with only a few shots lol.
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#110 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

COD is better than BF, seriously Bad Company 2 was one of the biggest rip offs I ever wasted money on. It's just so boring, the campaign sucks, the MP has too big of maps so you rarely ever come across anyone to kill.

Destrucatble enviornments and dropping bullets are cool and all, but they don't make up for the boring ass gameplay.

It comes to no surprise that MW3 is the better game, sure COD may not have changed much but at least it's fun!

ShadowMoses900

You spouted this garbage before and your reasons behind it were all down to you not knowing how to play the game. You said you never saw anyone to kill and couldn't get any vehicles at all to get across the map

It's not "garbage" it's my experience with the game. Stop living in a box, other people have different expereinces with games than you do, other people don't like the same games you do. It's called life, get outside and expereince it, you'll learn that people are different and not everyone shares your opinion.

I'm not the only one who has that opinion either, many people do. I played Bad Company 2 for about 2 weeks and it was the same, just boring. I played the BF3 beta and same thing, boring.

well i'm sorry, but "not finding anyone on the map" or "not finding any vehicles" is hardly an opinion.
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#111 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="Javos_25"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

GS also bashed Zelda for "not really changing toe core formula." Meanwhile, they praised MW3, essentially saying that it delivers more of the same fun...

I love inconsistency.

turtlethetaffer

Different reviewers, different tastes

the thing is that I'm pretty sure that VanOrd also praised Mega Man 10, saying "some formulas don't need to change."

That's because Mega Man isn't released every year for 6 consecutive years in a row.
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#112 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

You spouted this garbage before and your reasons behind it were all down to you not knowing how to play the game. You said you never saw anyone to kill and couldn't get any vehicles at all to get across the map

BrunoBRS

It's not "garbage" it's my experience with the game. Stop living in a box, other people have different expereinces with games than you do, other people don't like the same games you do. It's called life, get outside and expereince it, you'll learn that people are different and not everyone shares your opinion.

I'm not the only one who has that opinion either, many people do. I played Bad Company 2 for about 2 weeks and it was the same, just boring. I played the BF3 beta and same thing, boring.

well i'm sorry, but "not finding anyone on the map" or "not finding any vehicles" is hardly an opinion.

I'm confused. How could he not find anyone on the map on Operation Metro? It was the only map in the beta, and you could find someone within 30 seconds on that map.
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#113 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

You spouted this garbage before and your reasons behind it were all down to you not knowing how to play the game. You said you never saw anyone to kill and couldn't get any vehicles at all to get across the map

BrunoBRS

It's not "garbage" it's my experience with the game. Stop living in a box, other people have different expereinces with games than you do, other people don't like the same games you do. It's called life, get outside and expereince it, you'll learn that people are different and not everyone shares your opinion.

I'm not the only one who has that opinion either, many people do. I played Bad Company 2 for about 2 weeks and it was the same, just boring. I played the BF3 beta and same thing, boring.

well i'm sorry, but "not finding anyone on the map" or "not finding any vehicles" is hardly an opinion.

But it's true, mabey you play on PC with bigger player counts, but for me the maps are just too big. Running to the objective takes forever, and by the time I get over there the match is over. And I rarely find anyone to shoot at, why did they even have guns in the game if you arn't going to use them? It should be called walking field becasue that's all it is.

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#114 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

It's not "garbage" it's my experience with the game. Stop living in a box, other people have different expereinces with games than you do, other people don't like the same games you do. It's called life, get outside and expereince it, you'll learn that people are different and not everyone shares your opinion.

I'm not the only one who has that opinion either, many people do. I played Bad Company 2 for about 2 weeks and it was the same, just boring. I played the BF3 beta and same thing, boring.

ShadowMoses900

well i'm sorry, but "not finding anyone on the map" or "not finding any vehicles" is hardly an opinion.

But it's true, mabey you play on PC with bigger player counts, but for me the maps are just too big. Running to the objective takes forever, and by the time I get over there the match is over. And I rarely find anyone to shoot at, why did they even have guns in the game if you arn't going to use them? It should be called walking field becasue that's all it is.

I call BS. You only played Operation Metro and you couldn't find anyone? Either you're completely lying, or you're just so horrible at BF3 that you couldn't even find the rush objective points which are big A and B letters that you really can't miss.
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#115 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="Javos_25"] Different reviewers, different tastesDragonfireXZ95

the thing is that I'm pretty sure that VanOrd also praised Mega Man 10, saying "some formulas don't need to change."

That's because Mega Man isn't released every year for 6 consecutive years in a row.

The thing is that every zelda game does feature numerous changes... sure, the core formula is always the same, but that's how it is with the majority of game series.

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#116 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] well i'm sorry, but "not finding anyone on the map" or "not finding any vehicles" is hardly an opinion.DragonfireXZ95

But it's true, mabey you play on PC with bigger player counts, but for me the maps are just too big. Running to the objective takes forever, and by the time I get over there the match is over. And I rarely find anyone to shoot at, why did they even have guns in the game if you arn't going to use them? It should be called walking field becasue that's all it is.

I call BS. You only played Operation Metro and you couldn't find anyone? Either you're completely lying, or you're just so horrible at BF3 that you couldn't even find the rush objective points which are big A and B letters that you really can't miss.

I have played BF, check my gamer tag, I have trophies for it. All you do is just run around and mabey kill like 2 or 3 people, it's boring. And the game has like no features, just like 2 boring modes, plus when you get to the objectives the game is over because it takes forever to get to them. COD is WAY better, it's not even funny.

Dice should just copy COD's gameplay and add more features, you know make the game actually fun and challenging. Only challenge in BF is how long you can stand being bored. I would like to try BF3, you know give it another chance? But alas I can't because they use stupid online pass, Activision does not, another reason why COD sh!ts all over it.

BF will always be living in the shadow of COD.

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#117 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

But it's true, mabey you play on PC with bigger player counts, but for me the maps are just too big. Running to the objective takes forever, and by the time I get over there the match is over. And I rarely find anyone to shoot at, why did they even have guns in the game if you arn't going to use them? It should be called walking field becasue that's all it is.

ShadowMoses900

I call BS. You only played Operation Metro and you couldn't find anyone? Either you're completely lying, or you're just so horrible at BF3 that you couldn't even find the rush objective points which are big A and B letters that you really can't miss.

I have played BF, check my gamer tag, I have trophies for it. All you do is just run around and mabey kill like 2 or 3 people, it's boring. And the game has like no features, just like 2 boring modes, plus when you get to the objectives the game is over because it takes forever to get to them. COD is WAY better, it's not even funny.

Dice should just copy COD's gameplay and add more features, you know make the game actually fun and challenging. Only challenge in BF is how long you can stand being bored. I would like to try BF3, you know give it another chance? But alas I can't because they use stupid online pass, Activision does not, another reason why COD sh!ts all over it.

BF will always be living in the shadow of COD.

my friend bought the PS3 version, never had any of those issues you're describing. i played a map with a player count of f*cking 8 and never had those issues. maybe if you didn't spawn at the starting base and ignore the dozens of jeeps they have there.
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#118 arto1223
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[QUOTE="arto1223"]

Thank you for saying that.

BF3 is better. It offers so much more content and there are so many mroe ways to play it. You can be a lone wolf but teamwork is key. Vehicles cause people to adapt to every new situation and work together to take them out. DESTRUCTION!!! Better graphics and sound design. Dedicated servers. Up to 64 players. Man, I could go on and on.

Master_ShakeXXX

I wouldn't go that far. BF3 is the better game but when it comes to content CoD is pretty much unmatched.

What I meant by that is that when CoD DLC comes out, it will consist of a few maps... and that's it. When BF3 content comes out, we get new maps, new guns, new destruction, and new game modes on top of the stuff it already has, which is what I listed in the rest of that paragraph (player counts, vehicles, massive maps, etc...).

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#119 hockeyruler12
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For me it's not even close. Battlefield is so much better than MW3 (and I own both, you can check my gamertag). Battlefield is a lot more skill based. You can't just spray and pray like you can in Modern Warfare. Also, because the MW3 maps are SO small (even smaller than MW2/Black Ops/etc.) sniping pretty much doesn't exist. It's all just run and gun. Battlefield has run and gun in maps like Metro or Seine Crossing, but also has more tactical stuff like in Sharqi Peninsula. Vehicles also add a lot more to the fun. Jet battles are really fun and making attack helicopter runs in Battlefield are really rewarding.

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#120 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

But it's true, mabey you play on PC with bigger player counts, but for me the maps are just too big. Running to the objective takes forever, and by the time I get over there the match is over. And I rarely find anyone to shoot at, why did they even have guns in the game if you arn't going to use them? It should be called walking field becasue that's all it is.

ShadowMoses900

I call BS. You only played Operation Metro and you couldn't find anyone? Either you're completely lying, or you're just so horrible at BF3 that you couldn't even find the rush objective points which are big A and B letters that you really can't miss.

I have played BF, check my gamer tag, I have trophies for it. All you do is just run around and mabey kill like 2 or 3 people, it's boring. And the game has like no features, just like 2 boring modes, plus when you get to the objectives the game is over because it takes forever to get to them. COD is WAY better, it's not even funny.

Dice should just copy COD's gameplay and add more features, you know make the game actually fun and challenging. Only challenge in BF is how long you can stand being bored. I would like to try BF3, you know give it another chance? But alas I can't because they use stupid online pass, Activision does not, another reason why COD sh!ts all over it.

BF will always be living in the shadow of COD.

You don't own BF3 according to PSN. You did play at least 15 minutes of BFBC2 though. I guess that's...something.
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#121 Merex760
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Both games are bad
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#122 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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I told you that shadowmoses was full of garbage. All of the reasons are not about the game being bad just him

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#123 Master_ShakeXXX
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Wow, there is no contest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1pqHog5D2U&annotation_id=annotation_757042&src_vid=1hJ5gKcsDQc&feature=iv

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That's funny sh*t :lol:

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#124 PC4lifeman2233
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Both games are badMerex760
THREAD IS OVER!!!!
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#125 brickdoctor
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Modern Warfare 3 IS better. Unlike BF3 which has neither, it actually has a fun campaign and good maps. Also, Spec Ops>>>anything in BF3.

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#126 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="timmy00"]

It's their opinion. *shrugs*

clone01

Yep. TC likes to get butthurt over innocuous sh*t like this, though.

How have I been acting butthurt? I even spent the first few pages of this thread criticizing BF3. Pull your head out of your ass clone and actually read before you start running that sh*t filled mouth of yours.

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#127 Zaibach
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The new patch has Fvcked up everythhing, that recoil is beyond ridiculous

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#128 Master_ShakeXXX
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The new patch has Fvcked up everythhing, that recoil is beyond ridiculous

Zaibach

It's mainly due to the increased suppression. When you're taking fire your accuracy drops a lot. I'd recommend using the AK-74M. It seems to be one of the most precise guns now and it's good for just about any situation. I use to main the M16a3 but I have a hard time using it now after the patch.

*EDIT*

Also, and I know this might sound weird, but do not equip a foregrip. It actually decreases accuracy now. Heavy barrel or flash suppressor are the best way to go for increased accuracy.

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#129 HaloPimp978
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OF course MW3 is better... nothing is better than CoD games imo

finalstar2007

You must be trolling. BF3 PC blows MW3 in so many ways especially on maxed settings. And GOW and Halo both blow COD out of the water, COD is nothing but a boring game.

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#130 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

The new patch has Fvcked up everythhing, that recoil is beyond ridiculous

Master_ShakeXXX

It's mainly due to the increased suppression. When you're taking fire your accuracy drops a lot. I'd recommend using the AK-74M. It seems to be one of the most precise guns now and it's good for just about any situation. I use to main the M16a3 but I have a hard time using it now after the patch.

*EDIT*

Also, and I know this might sound weird, but do not equip a foregrip. It actually decreases accuracy now. Heavy barrel or flash suppressor are the best way to go for increased accuracy.

Almost all ARs have a starting recoil of 0 deviation meaning the bullet will go where the sight is pointed. Suppression is a multiplier so if you single shot nothing changes. Pistols also are not affected by suppression and the .44 got a really nice buff in the patch. Also yeah Heavy Barrel is now the go to. Suppressor is terrible except for extreme close range and foregrip decreases accuracy when scoped in (but gives you more accuracy than before if you're hip firing).
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#131 lamprey263
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I have fun playing what I play and that's satisfaction enough, for me that's BF3. I wasn't too big on COD/MW MP, always got the game for the SP aspect but they've really done a crappy job with that the last couple years, I didn't enjoy Black Ops or MW3 like I liked World At War or MW2's SP. I forgive the BF series of course for its crap SP because I actually like the MP.
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#132 Silverbond
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MW3 >>>>>>>>>>>>> your favorite shooter
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#133 moose_knuckler
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They're correct when talking about consoles. I was getting annoyed at the bland SP. I'm still seeing certain enemies run through certain objects. .........PC's another story.
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#134 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

The new patch has Fvcked up everythhing, that recoil is beyond ridiculous

Ace6301

It's mainly due to the increased suppression. When you're taking fire your accuracy drops a lot. I'd recommend using the AK-74M. It seems to be one of the most precise guns now and it's good for just about any situation. I use to main the M16a3 but I have a hard time using it now after the patch.

*EDIT*

Also, and I know this might sound weird, but do not equip a foregrip. It actually decreases accuracy now. Heavy barrel or flash suppressor are the best way to go for increased accuracy.

Almost all ARs have a starting recoil of 0 deviation meaning the bullet will go where the sight is pointed. Suppression is a multiplier so if you single shot nothing changes. Pistols also are not affected by suppression and the .44 got a really nice buff in the patch. Also yeah Heavy Barrel is now the go to. Suppressor is terrible except for extreme close range and foregrip decreases accuracy when scoped in (but gives you more accuracy than before if you're hip firing).

Interesting stuff. I never really think to single shot when I'm being suppressed. It always seemed natural for me to spray at sh*t when I can't see a damn thing. I did notice I have an easier time hitting people with the pistol while suppressed. Hip firing with ARs just seems impossible now. Even when I had the foregrip equipped I didn't notice a difference.

The AK-74M definitely has less recoil than the M16A3 though. While aiming and burst firing with the AK the reticle simply moves up in a straight line, while the M16's reticle likes to go up and then sway to the left or the right. It annoys the f*ck out of me.

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#135 eboyishere
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ITs more accessible then BF3. I mean thats where EA/DICE dropped the ball the most when it came to the fight for the causual crowd.
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Thank God they are changing the Suppression based on feedback and are just testing it out now. It's kinda ridiculous now. Shooting guys at point blank and hitting nothing. Even in bursts

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#138 finalstar2007
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OF course MW3 is better... nothing is better than CoD games imo

HaloPimp978

You must be trolling. BF3 PC blows MW3 in so many ways especially on maxed settings. And GOW and Halo both blow COD out of the water, COD is nothing but a boring game.

Yup spending over 30days playing on MW2 online must mean its a one boring game for sure.

i'll enjoy and support CoD and you enjoy BF series

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#139 ActionRemix
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I don't know what the PC version is like after the patch, but the console version has become damn good. They must have fixed the spawns or something because players are much closer together now. The pace of the game really jumped up for me.

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#140 VoodooHak
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So I just watched all 12-ish minutes of the video, and sure a couple GS guys said they'd recommend MW3 over BF3. But a couple other GS guys recommended BF3. It seemed split and not definitive at all. They all seemed to qualify their statements with their opinions so none of what they said was unreasonable.

And I tend to agree with the guys that prefer Battlefield. I'm just not into the cartoonish speed, smallish playground maps that cater to lone wolf game play in Modern Warfare. I like the vehicles. I like the larger, more organic maps and emphasis on team play of Battlefield.