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#51 butteater86
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Looks fine, too bad it'll probably be another borefest like the first one.
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#52 SOedipus
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Wow, there's a lot of hate for this game, what's the deal?
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#53 EnergyAbsorber
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Yeah in regards to the graphics, this game just doesn't have that "wow" factor that the first Ninja Gaiden game on Xbox had when it first came out. I guess I had my hopes a little too high when I predicted NG2 would be the game that would really show what 360 was capable of graphically (like NG Black was for Xbox).

But awell, gameplay is the most important and the main reason why I like this series so much. But mind-blowing graphics just add that extra flare and help enchance the experiece but its not as important as gameplay. I guess we will have to wait for Ninja Gaiden 3 on Xbox 720 if we want "mind blowing" graphics.

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#54 taker42
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Looks fine, too bad it'll probably be another borefest like the first one.butteater86
To be fair, I don't call every game I suck at "horrible", "bad" or "borefest", but I can't expect everyone to be like me.
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#55 Zeliard9
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I recognize NG's accomplishments in the genre but beat-em' up (maybe cut'em up is more appropriate) games are incredibly boring for me.espoac

Have you played any modern NG game? It'll keep you on your toes, believe that. Boring is the last word you could use to describe it. NG actually requires some strategy and some thinking, at least on the higher difficulties. And that's rare for a game of its type.

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#56 Khansoul
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The graphics are not sweet at all. The game has that plastic look all the XBOX 360 first party games suffer from. The shiny thing must be real hot at the Microsoft offices.
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#57 -wii60-
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[QUOTE="JiveT"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Sorry to say im not that impressed. I hope they will improve the texutres and just overall level detail.

Character models are top notch.

Very gorey as well.

Wasdie

And you are usually so positive when it comes to games for 360. :roll:

This is looking SUHWEEET!! It should be a very satisfying gameplay experience. I love the scythe.

Im just doing what lemmings do to PS3 games when shots are posted.

Im not denying the gameplay, that will probably be solid. The graphics need work though.



But you're a ''hermit'' , what you care so much about the ps3 :roll:
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#58 Mordred19
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the graphics are nice. very nice edge-lighting, I noticed.

however, I don't like the art style. technically, it's all very good, but stylistically.... maybe I just don't like Japan. :P

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#59 masiisam
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Ahhh, Ninja Gaiden 2, the game that utterly destroys DMC 4...Cubs360

and thats all she wrote.....

Nothing more needs to be said...everyone can move along...

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#60 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="humber_matus"]its good thing that the gameplay is excelent ... because those graphics suck ass.PS3_3DO

They are better then Sigma's. :|

I think the graphics are decent, you have to watch it in motion to really appreciate it. But if they are better then Sigmas I would say just barely for the most part ( texture quality, lighting and character desighn) all look almost identical to sigma. I would say it wins in the fact it takes more detail on the blood and how you can whack off body parts.

What I find very Ironic though is the fact that DMC4 for both the PS3 and 360 visually trounce this game and it is a multiplat. I dont know if its just because Capcom is that good? Or if Itagki is slacking off.

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#61 Blue-Rose
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Color me unimpressed. SIGMA looks identical to this and DMC4 trounses it. Gameplay ofcourse is very good but I prefer DMC.
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Color me unimpressed. SIGMA looks identical to this and DMC4 trounses it. Gameplay ofcourse is very good but I prefer DMC.Blue-Rose

Nah the character models are by far better in NG2, the textures I would however say are around the same as sigma and DMC4 looks on par graphically with it but doesn't beat it. Gameplay wise I'd say NG2 will still be the king of the genre but if you can't keep the pace of NG then DMC is probably the right pacing for the genre for people like yourself.

Wow, there's a lot of hate for this game, what's the deal?SOedipus

Mostly because all games that are top of there genres get this kind of treatment, even GTA suffers from it even though its pretty much the king of its genre.

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#63 Chutebox
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Looks the same as Sigma to me, but the gameplay is where NG shines. So I'm not too bothered by it. Also, I didn't read the interview but in the title it says 1080p, what's the deal with that?
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[QUOTE="Blue-Rose"]Color me unimpressed. SIGMA looks identical to this and DMC4 trounses it. Gameplay ofcourse is very good but I prefer DMC.Zenkuso

Nah the character models are by far better in NG2, the textures I would however say are around the same as sigma and DMC4 looks on par graphically with it but doesn't beat it. Gameplay wise I'd say NG2 will still be the king of the genre but if you can't keep the pace of NG then DMC is probably the right pacing for the genre for people like yourself.


You're totally wrong on all counts. DMC4 looks significantly better than NG2, what are you puffing? Don't argue about the graphics they're nothing special. The gameplay will deliver for fans I'm sure.

Secondly, I own NGS but I've been playing DMC longer and prefer it, it has nothing to do with pacing. I can even tell you some moves from the game off the top of my head lol

DMC is just better IMO.

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Looks the same as Sigma to me, but the gameplay is where NG shines. So I'm not too bothered by it. Also, I didn't read the interview but in the title it says 1080p, what's the deal with that?Chutebox

The 360 can do 1080p you know.

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#66 DragonfireXZ95
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The graphics really have aged.. It doesn't look all that great.

I'm sure it will be a fun game though.

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#67 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="Zenkuso"]

[QUOTE="Blue-Rose"]Color me unimpressed. SIGMA looks identical to this and DMC4 trounses it. Gameplay ofcourse is very good but I prefer DMC.Blue-Rose

Nah the character models are by far better in NG2, the textures I would however say are around the same as sigma and DMC4 looks on par graphically with it but doesn't beat it. Gameplay wise I'd say NG2 will still be the king of the genre but if you can't keep the pace of NG then DMC is probably the right pacing for the genre for people like yourself.


You're totally wrong on all counts. DMC4 looks significantly better than NG2, what are you puffing? Don't argue about the graphics they're nothing special. The gameplay will deliver for fans I'm sure.

Secondly, I own NGS but I've been playing DMC longer and prefer it, it has nothing to do with pacing. I can even tell you some moves from the game off the top of my head lol

DMC is just better IMO.

Holy crap, you fanboys need to stop arguing and just agree to disagree. You guys are arguing about which game has better gameplay, when it's clearly subjective.

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#69 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]Looks the same as Sigma to me, but the gameplay is where NG shines. So I'm not too bothered by it. Also, I didn't read the interview but in the title it says 1080p, what's the deal with that?PS3_3DO

The 360 can do 1080p you know.

Upscales to 1080p...huge difference.

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#70 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="Blue-Rose"][QUOTE="Zenkuso"]

[QUOTE="Blue-Rose"]Color me unimpressed. SIGMA looks identical to this and DMC4 trounses it. Gameplay ofcourse is very good but I prefer DMC.Blue-Rose

Nah the character models are by far better in NG2, the textures I would however say are around the same as sigma and DMC4 looks on par graphically with it but doesn't beat it. Gameplay wise I'd say NG2 will still be the king of the genre but if you can't keep the pace of NG then DMC is probably the right pacing for the genre for people like yourself.


You're totally wrong on all counts. DMC4 looks significantly better than NG2, what are you puffing? Don't argue about the graphics they're nothing special. The gameplay will deliver for fans I'm sure.

Secondly, I own NGS but I've been playing DMC longer and prefer it, it has nothing to do with pacing. I can even tell you some moves from the game off the top of my head lol

DMC is just better IMO.

Holy crap, you fanboys need to stop arguing and just agree to disagree. You guys are arguing about which game has better gameplay, when it's clearly subjective.

He took me up on an opinion. I clearly wasn't addressing him.

You weren't addressing him? Then who were you addressing? :roll:

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#71 Zenkuso
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He took me up on an opinion. I clearly wasn't addressing him. Blue-Rose

Opinions are opinion, thats what makes system wars what it is blue rose ;)

Everytime you post in system wars you are addressing everyone that posts here, stating your opinion here is like asking 100 people to prove you wrong, if you can't handle that around here then you might want to leave cause this won't be the first time or the last time someone addresses your post then you don't aim it specifically at them.

Dragonfire I'm not a fanboy, I just stated my opinion against his which is what many people do around here :P

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#73 cool_guy2000
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*DROOLS*

Seriously, CANNNOOOTTT WAIIIITT!

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#74 -wii60-
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

You weren't addressing him? Then who were you addressing? :roll:

Blue-Rose

I don't recall mentioning him in my orginal post :| Unless you see more things than I do

Liquid-SOLID,again got the ban hammer?

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#75 Blue-Rose
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[QUOTE="Blue-Rose"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

You weren't addressing him? Then who were you addressing? :roll:

-wii60-

I don't recall mentioning him in my orginal post :| Unless you see more things than I do

Liquid-SOLID,again got the ban hammer?

Not me.
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#76 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]Looks the same as Sigma to me, but the gameplay is where NG shines. So I'm not too bothered by it. Also, I didn't read the interview but in the title it says 1080p, what's the deal with that?Chutebox

The 360 can do 1080p you know.

Upscales to 1080p...huge difference.

Take a look at Virtua Tennis 3 and say that again. While you're at it, look for the true native resolutions of all the supposed 1080p PS3 games. That includes the horizontal resolution.
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#77 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]Looks the same as Sigma to me, but the gameplay is where NG shines. So I'm not too bothered by it. Also, I didn't read the interview but in the title it says 1080p, what's the deal with that?HuusAsking

The 360 can do 1080p you know.

Upscales to 1080p...huge difference.

Take a look at Virtua Tennis 3 and say that again. While you're at it, look for the true native resolutions of all the supposed 1080p PS3 games. That includes the horizontal resolution.

Huh? I know the Ps3 games aren't native 1080p, I never claimed they were. Just saying there is a big difference between upscalled and native.

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#78 HuusAsking
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Huh? I know the Ps3 games aren't native 1080p, I never claimed they were. Just saying there is a big difference between upscalled and native.

Chutebox

OK, you were trying to say that the 360 couldn't do 1920x1080 (full-resolution 1080p)...but then, neither can the PS3, it seems.

PS. What is the native resolution of VT3? Everyone claims it is full-res 1080p (1920x1080), but I can't find any proof one way or the other.

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#79 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Huh? I know the Ps3 games aren't native 1080p, I never claimed they were. Just saying there is a big difference between upscalled and native.

HuusAsking

OK, you were trying to say that the 360 couldn't do 1920x1080 (full-resolution 1080p)...but then, neither can the PS3, it seems.

PS. What is the native resolution of VT3? Everyone claims it is full-res 1080p (1920x1080), but I can't find any proof one way or the other.

Well, Ps3 can do 1080p native because of the Blu-Ray disc, but whether the ram or whatever takes it can handle it and everything else, I don't know. I do know that 360 upconverts everything to 1080p though, as can Ps3. I don't know, we'll see lol.

I also hear about VT3 doing native 1080p, there was a link to the nerds who found out that Halo3 was 640p, maybe they have a list of games' resolutions. I know I saw a list of games and their native resolutions.

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#80 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Huh? I know the Ps3 games aren't native 1080p, I never claimed they were. Just saying there is a big difference between upscalled and native.

Chutebox

OK, you were trying to say that the 360 couldn't do 1920x1080 (full-resolution 1080p)...but then, neither can the PS3, it seems.

PS. What is the native resolution of VT3? Everyone claims it is full-res 1080p (1920x1080), but I can't find any proof one way or the other.

Well, Ps3 can do 1080p native because of the Blu-Ray disc, but whether the ram or whatever takes it can handle it and everything else, I don't know. I do know that 360 upconverts everything to 1080p though, as can Ps3. I don't know, we'll see lol.

I also hear about VT3 doing native 1080p, there was a link to the nerds who found out that Halo3 was 640p, maybe they have a list of games' resolutions. I know I saw a list of games and their native resolutions.

BluRay is irrelevant to the 1080p argument. The PC has proven that time and again. RAM and chipset capability are the big factors in determining 1080p capability. And last I checked, both the RSX and the Xenos are a bit underpowered and short on RAM for a consistent job.
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#81 mingo123
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like i said before, it looks like sigma with more gore

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#82 OGTiago
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[QUOTE="JiveT"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Sorry to say im not that impressed. I hope they will improve the texutres and just overall level detail.

Character models are top notch.

Very gorey as well.

Wasdie

And you are usually so positive when it comes to games for 360. :roll:

This is looking SUHWEEET!! It should be a very satisfying gameplay experience. I love the scythe.

Im just doing what lemmings do to PS3 games when shots are posted.

Im not denying the gameplay, that will probably be solid. The graphics need work though.

Yeah, DMC4 looks better, but NG2 will play better... says my crystal ball.
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#83 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Huh? I know the Ps3 games aren't native 1080p, I never claimed they were. Just saying there is a big difference between upscalled and native.

HuusAsking

OK, you were trying to say that the 360 couldn't do 1920x1080 (full-resolution 1080p)...but then, neither can the PS3, it seems.

PS. What is the native resolution of VT3? Everyone claims it is full-res 1080p (1920x1080), but I can't find any proof one way or the other.

Well, Ps3 can do 1080p native because of the Blu-Ray disc, but whether the ram or whatever takes it can handle it and everything else, I don't know. I do know that 360 upconverts everything to 1080p though, as can Ps3. I don't know, we'll see lol.

I also hear about VT3 doing native 1080p, there was a link to the nerds who found out that Halo3 was 640p, maybe they have a list of games' resolutions. I know I saw a list of games and their native resolutions.

BluRay is irrelevant to the 1080p argument. The PC has proven that time and again. RAM and chipset capability are the big factors in determining 1080p capability. And last I checked, both the RSX and the Xenos are a bit underpowered and short on RAM for a consistent job.

Well, wouldn't space on disc or hard drive in a computers case also be a factor as to why a game can go 1080p native or not? RAM and chipset were the other two factors I was referring to.

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Can't wait can't wait can't wait, godamnit! :x
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#85 HuusAsking
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Well, wouldn't space on disc or hard drive in a computers case also be a factor as to why a game can go 1080p native or not? RAM and chipset were the other two factors I was referring to.

Chutebox
Storage capacity has nothing to do with it. It's all about the chipsets. Where storage comes into play is the quality of the textures, which become more sensitive at the higher resolutions, but this has nothing to do with the pure capability to display 1920x1080 natively.
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#86 grosper077
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cantttt waittttt looks awesome
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#87 Kratos_OMEGA
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Sorry to say im not that impressed. I hope they will improve the texutres and just overall level detail.

Character models are top notch.

Very gorey as well.

Wasdie

graphic wise no but the actual game looks phenomenal. Gameplay is top notch. nothing surpasses it.

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#88 LibertySaint
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I dont; care if it is in 108-p at 60 frames like sigma, make it 600p at frames with more detail and more textures and everything!!! it slooks good, but just imagine, look at games for the 360 coming out at the end on 2009, wow! the ps3 and 360 are going to last and advance alot more while ppl are still figuring the consoles out and makes engines to run on the consoles properly.
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#89 grosper077
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why are people complaining about the gore ?what about dead rising gears of war no more heroes jesus
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#90 Kritical_Strike
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Those graphics looks fine, I'm just glad it runs silky smooth.
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wow my most anticipated game of 2008 cant wait:D
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#92 Arsenal325
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gore =AWESOME

graphics= crap

gameplay= great

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#93 Kritical_Strike
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gore =AWESOME

graphics= crap

gameplay= great

Arsenal325

What's so crap about it graphics?

Lets see, it's got shiney character models with relatively low-res environments? That sounds a lot like MGS4. I guess MGS4 has crap graphics too :o

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fs this is a month old. the gdc trailer is what you should be showing.
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double post (sorry)

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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Huh? I know the Ps3 games aren't native 1080p, I never claimed they were. Just saying there is a big difference between upscalled and native.

Chutebox

OK, you were trying to say that the 360 couldn't do 1920x1080 (full-resolution 1080p)...but then, neither can the PS3, it seems.

PS. What is the native resolution of VT3? Everyone claims it is full-res 1080p (1920x1080), but I can't find any proof one way or the other.

Well, Ps3 can do 1080p native because of the Blu-Ray disc, but whether the ram or whatever takes it can handle it and everything else, I don't know. I do know that 360 upconverts everything to 1080p though, as can Ps3. I don't know, we'll see lol.

I also hear about VT3 doing native 1080p, there was a link to the nerds who found out that Halo3 was 640p, maybe they have a list of games' resolutions. I know I saw a list of games and their native resolutions.

BluRay is irrelevant to the 1080p argument. The PC has proven that time and again. RAM and chipset capability are the big factors in determining 1080p capability. And last I checked, both the RSX and the Xenos are a bit underpowered and short on RAM for a consistent job.

Well, wouldn't space on disc or hard drive in a computers case also be a factor as to why a game can go 1080p native or not? RAM and chipset were the other two factors I was referring to.

No. Its not like a movie the frames are generated on the fly, not stored on the disk. Doom can be renered in 1080p. The power of the GPU is the most important factor with video ram capacity a distant second.

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#97 dgo71102244
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gore =AWESOME

graphics= crap

gameplay= great

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What's so crap about it graphics?

Lets see, it's got shiney character models with relatively low-res environments? That sounds a lot like MGS4. I guess MGS4 has crap graphics too :o



gore =awasome

graphics=awesome

gameplay= awasome

when i watch the graphics i just say wowwwwww what people are blind or what? cause i see the screenshots and are amazing the gameplay is like cinematics what the hell you want? seriousley is not logic
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If only this game came out on the PS3. *sigh*
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#99 sakura_Ex
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People who are making fun of the graphix must be smoking pot. SkullboyX

Just like you were doing when you were making fun of MGS4's graphics ?.

Anyways... I think NG2 will be good gameplay wise as many people have said but the graphics could use some work.

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#100 dgo71102244
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All that gore is kind of nauseating. Looks pretty good otherwise.dracula_16


go play pokemon or mario sunshine. this is the game man i just know that