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#101 MaTT2011
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Jesus H when will you automatons learn that gaming isnt solely about visuals!!??!? Good god its like you choose NOT to think or something...
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#102 Nintendo_Ownes7
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Does Sony own the Ratchet and Clank franchise?  If they do it's dissapointing that it'll never go to another system.helium_flash
Sony Doesn't own it but the Company that does make it is a 2nd Party developer to Sony so they could make games for another Console when there Contract with Sony expires.
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#103 Vojkan80001
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[QUOTE="helium_flash"]Does Sony own the Ratchet and Clank franchise?  If they do it's dissapointing that it'll never go to another system.Killfox
I think it would be cool to see it on Wii.

Are you stupid or what? Like Wii could handle those R&C(ps3)graphics! Insane what some fanboys say.

The real question is! Is Wii even stronger than Xbox 1? For God sake....

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#104 oback
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didnt u get banned?
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#105 Vojkan80001
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[QUOTE="helium_flash"]Does Sony own the Ratchet and Clank franchise?  If they do it's dissapointing that it'll never go to another system.Nintendo_Ownes7
Sony Doesn't own it but the Company that does make it is a 2nd Party developer to Sony so they could make games for another Console when there Contract with Sony expires.

Neighter do they own Insomniac and yet they are very loyal to Sony. Something like Halo team loyal to Microsoft.

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#106 wavebrid
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[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="wavebrid"]

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="Plug1Plug2"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="Pangster007"][QUOTE="Doomshine"]Some more Ratchet and Clank screens, I think these are captured from the trailer:*load of pictures*Citan_Uzuki

They're not gameplay shots right? Imo, platformers are all about gameplay which is heavily determined by the control you have over the character.

Too bad every RaC game has had better gameplay then the marios.

Do people even buy R&C games? I can't fathom it. So generic

And mario games arnt? Lmao, have you played any mario game? There the most overrated platformer ever. How Mario overshadow megaman in NES/SNES days blows my mind, as well as how Mario 64 overshadowed Conker and Banjoo. And how is it generic? Please, what otehr platformer had a combat system this advanced? Have fun with Mario sunshine.

http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/supermariosunshine/news.html?sid=2875352

^^ japan sells

And?.. It sold 400,000, thats not that many lol.

freaking people are really that stupid it has sold more than that by now look at the freaking date



some people are just dense I mean he is no worse than someone saying luigis mansion is better than all ps2 and ps3 games. I mean I'm a huge ps supporter but I started gaming with mario. I mean mario, zelda, and metriod are all amzing series that I love playing. That being said luigis mansion certainly doesn't even come close to represent the best nintendo has to offer and is bested by alot of games on ps2. anybody who has seriously played the ps2 at all will know this to be true.

that could seem like fanboism but it could be his opioion which is not good one at all :p i played lugis masion its a good game. but better than the whole ps2 libary no. maybe some games.

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#107 wavebrid
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[QUOTE="Killfox"][QUOTE="helium_flash"]Does Sony own the Ratchet and Clank franchise?  If they do it's dissapointing that it'll never go to another system.Vojkan80001

I think it would be cool to see it on Wii.

Are you stupid or what? Like Wii could handle those R&C(ps3)graphics! Insane what some fanboys say.

The real question is! Is Wii even stronger than Xbox 1? For God sake....

Yes it is is already been stated wii is more powerufl than xbox :|

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#108 blurb1324
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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"][QUOTE="helium_flash"]Does Sony own the Ratchet and Clank franchise? If they do it's dissapointing that it'll never go to another system.Vojkan80001

Sony Doesn't own it but the Company that does make it is a 2nd Party developer to Sony so they could make games for another Console when there Contract with Sony expires.

Neighter do they own Insomniac and yet they are very loyal to Sony. Something like Halo team loyal to Microsoft.

MS owns Bungie. I thought Insomniac was only 2nd party for Sony - they aren't owned by Sony.
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#109 deactivated-5967f36c08c33
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Who really cares if R&C looks better than SMG?Don't we already know that PS3 games look better than Wii games by now?

And most likely,Mario will play better.

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#110 Timstuff
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remind me again why we are comparing PS3 games to Wii games?Viviath
Because cows want to humiliate the sales-gloating sheep.
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#111 phatkav
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We are comparing two games that will be released after like 10 months? What in the world happened to SW?


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#112 SKHuskie
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:oA PS3 game that looks better than a Wii game?! I am in utter shock.
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#113 tastethechase
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visually R&C is better...but as far as gameplay goes

Mario>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ratchet & Clank

Jak & Daxter should be the only platformer cows worry about, that series is WAYYYYYY better than R&C.

ps. Banjo Kazooie 3 will destroy R&C visually, you can quote me on that.
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#114 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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i like SMG's art style more, but it's obvious that ratchet and clank couldn't be done on the wii.
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#115 ithilgore2006
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[QUOTE="Viviath"]remind me again why we are comparing PS3 games to Wii games?Timstuff
Because cows want to humiliate the sales-gloating sheep.

They're failing so far.
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#116 FrenziedRaldo24
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Riddle me this sheep, how is it unacceptable to compare these two games, but ~ THIS ~ is okay?:|

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#117 MasterChumly
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[QUOTE="Killfox"][QUOTE="helium_flash"]Does Sony own the Ratchet and Clank franchise?  If they do it's dissapointing that it'll never go to another system.Vojkan80001

I think it would be cool to see it on Wii.

Are you stupid or what? Like Wii could handle those R&C(ps3)graphics! Insane what some fanboys say.

The real question is! Is Wii even stronger than Xbox 1? For God sake....

How ironic calling someone a fanboy then saying one of the most ridiculously fanboyish statements yourself.

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#118 Runningflame570
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[QUOTE="coolguy1111"] How am I a cow? Lmao console sheep. Go play Hotel Dusk or whatever you nintendo "gamers" are playing now.

They're playing nongames, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, Izuna Legend of the Unemployed Ninja and Spectrobes.

freaking people are really that stupid it has sold more than that by now look at the freaking date

wavebrid
To give you an idea of how that game did...Super Mario Bros. 3 wasn't included with a console and did 18 million, Super Mario Land did 14 million, GoldenEye 007 did 8 million, Super Mario Sunshine did 5.5 million even though it was released in 2002, Gamecube didn't get much after 2004 worth playing (or at all for that matter) and it carried the Mario name which pretty much assures even mediocre titles (not saying this is one) are million-sellers. Gears has already done over 3 million, Sonic the Hedgehog 1 and 2 did 4 and 6 million respectively, Gran Turismo 2 did 8.5 million, Dragon Warrior VII did over 4 million in Japan alone, Rayman did 4 million. By Mario's standards Sunshine was a flop both critically and commercially.
jak and daxter is the best platformer ever.rachet and clank don`t even come close to them in gameplay,graphics and humour .r and c is just a big copy of j and d tiger_99
Naughty Dog would be disappointed in you for saying that, they are very friendly and have a symbiotic relationship with Insomniac. When Naughty Dog was making Crash (before Sony's acquisition of ND and Vivendi's ruining of the franchise) Insomniac was making Spyro, when ND was making Jak, Insomniac was making Ratchet and both studios communicated, shared ideas and were very friendly towards each other. Both Crash and Spyro, Jak and Ratchet are distinctively different franchises and you can argue the merits of each, but the studios do in fact enjoy collaborating to a degree.
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#119 rockstar183
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visually R&C is better...but as far as gameplay goes

Mario>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ratchet & Clank

Jak & Daxter should be the only platformer cows worry about, that series is WAYYYYYY better than R&C.

ps. Banjo Kazooie 3 will destroy R&C visually, you can quote me on that.
tastethechase
im i dont think it will in any way shape or form . o ya evey r&c game was beter than sunshine .
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#120 OGTiago
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$600 > $250 ps3 power > Wii's
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#121 Runningflame570
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Does Sony own the Ratchet and Clank franchise? If they do it's dissapointing that it'll never go to another system.helium_flash
No, thats Insomniac..but Insomniac is firmly pro-Sony for the moment, they have a very favorable relationship with Naughty Dog (who happens to be owned by Sony and is recognized as one of the most proficient developers in the business) and Resistance has been doing good numbers for them. Ratchet and Clank did very well for them on the PS2 as well. They're kind of like Level-5 in that while they aren't Sony owned (although personally I think Sony should pounce on Level-5 right now) they have a loyalty to Sony forged through mutual benefit and respect of each other's wishes.

Like Wii could handle those R&C(ps3)graphics! Insane what some fanboys say.

The real question is! Is Wii even stronger than Xbox 1? For God sake....

Vojkan80001
No, Wii could not handle them..but I think for at least the next couple of years Ratchet and Clank is a firmly Sony-exclusive property. Personally I would have liked Dragon Quest IX to show up on a next-gen platform but developers do what they think is most beneficial to their goals.

Neighter do they own Insomniac and yet they are very loyal to Sony. Something like Halo team loyal to Microsoft.

Vojkan80001
Actually Bungie was pre-emptively purchased by Microsoft..otherwise it would have been on PS2 as well where it wouldn't have exploded to such over-blown hype (amazing game I'm sure but its kind of like Mario..its not the end-all be-all people).

ps. Banjo Kazooie 3 will destroy R&C visually, you can quote me on that.
tastethechase
I fully expect that to hinge upon when Banjo is actually released. Insomniac is a top-tier developer to be sure and Rare has kind of gone downhill in more ways than one since SNES.
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#122 TheJustin
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I'll take a wahsed out overused mario game over rachet and clank anyday.
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#123 blacktorn
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It's funny how people were comparing wii shots to ps2/xbox/gamecube shots before and now were comparing ps3 to wii graphics lol,well i find it ironic anyway...

Rachet looks amazing,mario looks amazing,but come on we know mario galaxy is going to kick rachets a** when it comes down to the gameplay itself.
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#124 Dr_Evil_PhD
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it seems like PS3 R&C looks no different then the PS2 R&C games IMO. :? 
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#125 OGTiago
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I'll take a wahsed out overused mario game over rachet and clank anyday.TheJustin
it has been ~5 years since the last proper mario game. (on home consoles)
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#126 fuzzysquash
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just dl'ed the 720p Ratchet trailer and I must say......dammnn......
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#127 Runningflame570
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It's funny how people were comparing wii shots to ps2/xbox/gamecube shots before and now were comparing ps3 to wii graphics lol,well i find it ironic anyway...

Rachet looks amazing,mario looks amazing,but come on we know mario galaxy is going to kick rachets a** when it comes down to the gameplay itself.
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Actually no we don't...one more step down from Sunshine, and if Ratchet returns to the original or improves then it will be better. Right now the last Mario game and the Jak and Ratchet properties are more or less on even footing as gameplay goes.
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#128 rockstar183
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It's funny how people were comparing wii shots to ps2/xbox/gamecube shots before and now were comparing ps3 to wii graphics lol,well i find it ironic anyway...

Rachet looks amazing,mario looks amazing,but come on we know mario galaxy is going to kick rachets a** when it comes down to the gameplay itself.
blacktorn
how so . the last 3d mario game wasnt that good . all u do im mario is jump stomp jump . r&c will have better gameplay imo
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#129 OGTiago
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[QUOTE="blacktorn"]It's funny how people were comparing wii shots to ps2/xbox/gamecube shots before and now were comparing ps3 to wii graphics lol,well i find it ironic anyway...

Rachet looks amazing,mario looks amazing,but come on we know mario galaxy is going to kick rachets a** when it comes down to the gameplay itself.
rockstar183
how so . the last 3d mario game wasnt that good . all u do im mario is jump stomp jump . r&c will have better gameplay imo

because you shoot a gun 99% of the time and the actual platforming is simple?
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#130 rockstar183
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[QUOTE="rockstar183"][QUOTE="blacktorn"]It's funny how people were comparing wii shots to ps2/xbox/gamecube shots before and now were comparing ps3 to wii graphics lol,well i find it ironic anyway...

Rachet looks amazing,mario looks amazing,but come on we know mario galaxy is going to kick rachets a** when it comes down to the gameplay itself.
OGTiago
how so . the last 3d mario game wasnt that good . all u do im mario is jump stomp jump . r&c will have better gameplay imo

because you shoot a gun 99% of the time and the actual platforming is simple?

wrong this r&c game is 60% platforming 40% shooting and space combat
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#131 OGTiago
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[QUOTE="OGTiago"][QUOTE="rockstar183"][QUOTE="blacktorn"]It's funny how people were comparing wii shots to ps2/xbox/gamecube shots before and now were comparing ps3 to wii graphics lol,well i find it ironic anyway...

Rachet looks amazing,mario looks amazing,but come on we know mario galaxy is going to kick rachets a** when it comes down to the gameplay itself.
rockstar183
how so . the last 3d mario game wasnt that good . all u do im mario is jump stomp jump . r&c will have better gameplay imo

because you shoot a gun 99% of the time and the actual platforming is simple?

wrong this r&c game is 60% platforming 40% shooting and space combat

and what makes you think SMG will be like Sunshine???
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#132 shaggymcp
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Sorry but @ this point I will take almost any platformer VS a Mario game now a day's.  Mario games are like spam e-mails, you just can't stop'em......   Super mario world was the peak of 2d mario games, and Mario 64 was the peak of 3d mario games.  

SMG = Mario sunshine + lame motion controls = bleh  I have never played R&C games before, but I think I am gonna pick up 1&2 used, and find out what I have been missing.

***EDIT***

Actually I just realized what I said....  SMG = Mario 64 + Vertigo + Lame motion Controls = bleh.  SMG Mario won't even have the functionality of the water pack, so its just gonna be plain old mario again with no additional moves.  But I guess they are gonna try sell the fact that he is in space.....