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Does Sony own the Ratchet and Clank franchise? If they do it's dissapointing that it'll never go to another system.helium_flashSony Doesn't own it but the Company that does make it is a 2nd Party developer to Sony so they could make games for another Console when there Contract with Sony expires.
[QUOTE="helium_flash"]Does Sony own the Ratchet and Clank franchise? If they do it's dissapointing that it'll never go to another system.KillfoxI think it would be cool to see it on Wii.
Are you stupid or what? Like Wii could handle those R&C(ps3)graphics! Insane what some fanboys say.
The real question is! Is Wii even stronger than Xbox 1? For God sake....
[QUOTE="helium_flash"]Does Sony own the Ratchet and Clank franchise? If they do it's dissapointing that it'll never go to another system.Nintendo_Ownes7Sony Doesn't own it but the Company that does make it is a 2nd Party developer to Sony so they could make games for another Console when there Contract with Sony expires.
Neighter do they own Insomniac and yet they are very loyal to Sony. Something like Halo team loyal to Microsoft.
[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="wavebrid"]They're not gameplay shots right? Imo, platformers are all about gameplay which is heavily determined by the control you have over the character. Too bad every RaC game has had better gameplay then the marios. Do people even buy R&C games? I can't fathom it. So generic And mario games arnt? Lmao, have you played any mario game? There the most overrated platformer ever. How Mario overshadow megaman in NES/SNES days blows my mind, as well as how Mario 64 overshadowed Conker and Banjoo. And how is it generic? Please, what otehr platformer had a combat system this advanced? Have fun with Mario sunshine.[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="Plug1Plug2"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="Pangster007"][QUOTE="Doomshine"]Some more Ratchet and Clank screens, I think these are captured from the trailer:*load of pictures*Citan_Uzuki
http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/supermariosunshine/news.html?sid=2875352
^^ japan sells
And?.. It sold 400,000, thats not that many lol.freaking people are really that stupid it has sold more than that by now look at the freaking date
that could seem like fanboism but it could be his opioion which is not good one at all :p i played lugis masion its a good game. but better than the whole ps2 libary no. maybe some games.
I think it would be cool to see it on Wii.[QUOTE="Killfox"][QUOTE="helium_flash"]Does Sony own the Ratchet and Clank franchise? If they do it's dissapointing that it'll never go to another system.Vojkan80001
Are you stupid or what? Like Wii could handle those R&C(ps3)graphics! Insane what some fanboys say.
The real question is! Is Wii even stronger than Xbox 1? For God sake....
Yes it is is already been stated wii is more powerufl than xbox :|
Sony Doesn't own it but the Company that does make it is a 2nd Party developer to Sony so they could make games for another Console when there Contract with Sony expires.[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"][QUOTE="helium_flash"]Does Sony own the Ratchet and Clank franchise? If they do it's dissapointing that it'll never go to another system.Vojkan80001
Neighter do they own Insomniac and yet they are very loyal to Sony. Something like Halo team loyal to Microsoft.
MS owns Bungie. I thought Insomniac was only 2nd party for Sony - they aren't owned by Sony.Who really cares if R&C looks better than SMG?Don't we already know that PS3 games look better than Wii games by now?
And most likely,Mario will play better.
[QUOTE="Viviath"]remind me again why we are comparing PS3 games to Wii games?TimstuffBecause cows want to humiliate the sales-gloating sheep.They're failing so far.
I think it would be cool to see it on Wii.[QUOTE="Killfox"][QUOTE="helium_flash"]Does Sony own the Ratchet and Clank franchise? If they do it's dissapointing that it'll never go to another system.Vojkan80001
Are you stupid or what? Like Wii could handle those R&C(ps3)graphics! Insane what some fanboys say.
The real question is! Is Wii even stronger than Xbox 1? For God sake....
How ironic calling someone a fanboy then saying one of the most ridiculously fanboyish statements yourself.
To give you an idea of how that game did...Super Mario Bros. 3 wasn't included with a console and did 18 million, Super Mario Land did 14 million, GoldenEye 007 did 8 million, Super Mario Sunshine did 5.5 million even though it was released in 2002, Gamecube didn't get much after 2004 worth playing (or at all for that matter) and it carried the Mario name which pretty much assures even mediocre titles (not saying this is one) are million-sellers. Gears has already done over 3 million, Sonic the Hedgehog 1 and 2 did 4 and 6 million respectively, Gran Turismo 2 did 8.5 million, Dragon Warrior VII did over 4 million in Japan alone, Rayman did 4 million. By Mario's standards Sunshine was a flop both critically and commercially.freaking people are really that stupid it has sold more than that by now look at the freaking date
wavebrid
jak and daxter is the best platformer ever.rachet and clank don`t even come close to them in gameplay,graphics and humour .r and c is just a big copy of j and d tiger_99Naughty Dog would be disappointed in you for saying that, they are very friendly and have a symbiotic relationship with Insomniac. When Naughty Dog was making Crash (before Sony's acquisition of ND and Vivendi's ruining of the franchise) Insomniac was making Spyro, when ND was making Jak, Insomniac was making Ratchet and both studios communicated, shared ideas and were very friendly towards each other. Both Crash and Spyro, Jak and Ratchet are distinctively different franchises and you can argue the merits of each, but the studios do in fact enjoy collaborating to a degree.
visually R&C is better...but as far as gameplay goesim i dont think it will in any way shape or form . o ya evey r&c game was beter than sunshine .
Mario>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ratchet & Clank
Jak & Daxter should be the only platformer cows worry about, that series is WAYYYYYY better than R&C.
ps. Banjo Kazooie 3 will destroy R&C visually, you can quote me on that.
tastethechase
Does Sony own the Ratchet and Clank franchise? If they do it's dissapointing that it'll never go to another system.helium_flashNo, thats Insomniac..but Insomniac is firmly pro-Sony for the moment, they have a very favorable relationship with Naughty Dog (who happens to be owned by Sony and is recognized as one of the most proficient developers in the business) and Resistance has been doing good numbers for them. Ratchet and Clank did very well for them on the PS2 as well. They're kind of like Level-5 in that while they aren't Sony owned (although personally I think Sony should pounce on Level-5 right now) they have a loyalty to Sony forged through mutual benefit and respect of each other's wishes.
No, Wii could not handle them..but I think for at least the next couple of years Ratchet and Clank is a firmly Sony-exclusive property. Personally I would have liked Dragon Quest IX to show up on a next-gen platform but developers do what they think is most beneficial to their goals.Like Wii could handle those R&C(ps3)graphics! Insane what some fanboys say.
The real question is! Is Wii even stronger than Xbox 1? For God sake....
Vojkan80001
Actually Bungie was pre-emptively purchased by Microsoft..otherwise it would have been on PS2 as well where it wouldn't have exploded to such over-blown hype (amazing game I'm sure but its kind of like Mario..its not the end-all be-all people).Neighter do they own Insomniac and yet they are very loyal to Sony. Something like Halo team loyal to Microsoft.
Vojkan80001
I fully expect that to hinge upon when Banjo is actually released. Insomniac is a top-tier developer to be sure and Rare has kind of gone downhill in more ways than one since SNES.
ps. Banjo Kazooie 3 will destroy R&C visually, you can quote me on that.
tastethechase
It's funny how people were comparing wii shots to ps2/xbox/gamecube shots before and now were comparing ps3 to wii graphics lol,well i find it ironic anyway...Actually no we don't...one more step down from Sunshine, and if Ratchet returns to the original or improves then it will be better. Right now the last Mario game and the Jak and Ratchet properties are more or less on even footing as gameplay goes.
Rachet looks amazing,mario looks amazing,but come on we know mario galaxy is going to kick rachets a** when it comes down to the gameplay itself.
blacktorn
It's funny how people were comparing wii shots to ps2/xbox/gamecube shots before and now were comparing ps3 to wii graphics lol,well i find it ironic anyway...how so . the last 3d mario game wasnt that good . all u do im mario is jump stomp jump . r&c will have better gameplay imo
Rachet looks amazing,mario looks amazing,but come on we know mario galaxy is going to kick rachets a** when it comes down to the gameplay itself.
blacktorn
[QUOTE="blacktorn"]It's funny how people were comparing wii shots to ps2/xbox/gamecube shots before and now were comparing ps3 to wii graphics lol,well i find it ironic anyway...how so . the last 3d mario game wasnt that good . all u do im mario is jump stomp jump . r&c will have better gameplay imo because you shoot a gun 99% of the time and the actual platforming is simple?
Rachet looks amazing,mario looks amazing,but come on we know mario galaxy is going to kick rachets a** when it comes down to the gameplay itself.
rockstar183
[QUOTE="rockstar183"][QUOTE="blacktorn"]It's funny how people were comparing wii shots to ps2/xbox/gamecube shots before and now were comparing ps3 to wii graphics lol,well i find it ironic anyway...how so . the last 3d mario game wasnt that good . all u do im mario is jump stomp jump . r&c will have better gameplay imo because you shoot a gun 99% of the time and the actual platforming is simple? wrong this r&c game is 60% platforming 40% shooting and space combat
Rachet looks amazing,mario looks amazing,but come on we know mario galaxy is going to kick rachets a** when it comes down to the gameplay itself.
OGTiago
[QUOTE="OGTiago"][QUOTE="rockstar183"][QUOTE="blacktorn"]It's funny how people were comparing wii shots to ps2/xbox/gamecube shots before and now were comparing ps3 to wii graphics lol,well i find it ironic anyway...how so . the last 3d mario game wasnt that good . all u do im mario is jump stomp jump . r&c will have better gameplay imo because you shoot a gun 99% of the time and the actual platforming is simple? wrong this r&c game is 60% platforming 40% shooting and space combat and what makes you think SMG will be like Sunshine???
Rachet looks amazing,mario looks amazing,but come on we know mario galaxy is going to kick rachets a** when it comes down to the gameplay itself.
rockstar183
Sorry but @ this point I will take almost any platformer VS a Mario game now a day's. Mario games are like spam e-mails, you just can't stop'em......  Super mario world was the peak of 2d mario games, and Mario 64 was the peak of 3d mario games. Â
SMG = Mario sunshine + lame motion controls = bleh I have never played R&C games before, but I think I am gonna pick up 1&2 used, and find out what I have been missing.
***EDIT***
Actually I just realized what I said.... SMG = Mario 64 + Vertigo + Lame motion Controls = bleh. SMG Mario won't even have the functionality of the water pack, so its just gonna be plain old mario again with no additional moves. But I guess they are gonna try sell the fact that he is in space.....
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