It will not do either one, especially if they go the 300-400 route.:lol:
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Too many people who helped make xbox great arent with microsoft anymore so i have no faith in the brand anymore.
[QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"]Just a question, if you guys care so much about power, why don't you game on PC? I thought graphics/power doesn't matter to consolites.tormentosTry to build a PC with the capabilities of the PS4 and tell me how much you spend...
$250-300 if you already have a decent CPU and you could have much more powerful rig than PS4 right now.! :D
[QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"][QUOTE="gpuking"] At this stage I can 99% guarantee you the new xbox will not be more powerful, in fact it would be weaker by a substantial amount than the PS4. If lemmings are still hoping for some special sauce or greatly improved spec then you guys are in for a big big disappointment.
gpuking
Just a question, if you guys care so much about power, why don't you game on PC? I thought graphics/power doesn't matter to consolites.
Not everyone has the patience to hook it up to the tv, Sony 1st party games, bad, buggy ports, delays, driver updates, viruses, patches, DRM, constant upgrades to new hardware, not enough support from developers. Not every pc gamers can enjoy crysis 3 at 1080p ultra quality. Do I have to keep on going?But anyways, I guess this will turn into another pointless argument. I thought consoles are all about convenience and not power. Seems silly watching you consolites fighting over power.
I'm going to take the wait and see approach and think the proof will be in the pudding and by pudding I mean games. The PS3 was meant to be twice as powerful as the 360 in theoretical floating point operations but we never saw that degree performance difference in the real world.
Let's be real for a moment SW.
The Xbox brand has America in the bag. Kinect is huge with kids and what not, now what this says to MS is that they can get away with a weaker console, more kinect focused as long as they will still get decent multiplats like COD etc.
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If the PS4 is weaker then the Xbox I'll be very surprised.
Not everyone has the patience to hook it up to the tv, Sony 1st party games, bad, buggy ports, delays, driver updates, viruses, patches, DRM, constant upgrades to new hardware, not enough support from developers. Not every pc gamers can enjoy crysis 3 at 1080p ultra quality. Do I have to keep on going?[QUOTE="gpuking"][QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"]
Just a question, if you guys care so much about power, why don't you game on PC? I thought graphics/power doesn't matter to consolites.
zeeshanhaider
But anyways, I guess this will turn into another pointless argument. I thought consoles are all about convenience and not power. Seems silly watching you consolites fighting over power.
Cows are stupid hypocrites.Teh SP can almost confirm, the Next X will be technically superior in most all ways :shock:
Don't tell'em where you hear it tho. :P
What is going on? RAM in a PC was the least exciting bit of a computer, its gaurenteed cheap and as far as DDR versions go offers the least improvement over any other upgrade (on occasion unnoticeable) Suddenly RAM is the most exciting peice of hardware ever. does this lead me to believe the CPU is crap and no dedicated gpu? just a mish-mash./MBirdy88The only time I've seen faster ram make a noticeable difference is in Folding@home.
the low number of replies just shows me that no one cares for xbox anymore[QUOTE="ultraking"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Now if this was a rumor that was positive for the PS4 or a negative for the Nextbox there would be 100 threads made by cows claiming this to be fact.xhawk27
The Xbox 360 is #1 for 25 straight months in North America. :cool:
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Shhh! Don't tell cows facts. Let them think System Wars threads and polls reflect the real world, lol.IS there some special club where you all make unified sigs? :PIt will not do either one, especially if they go the 300-400 route.:lol:
mitu123
[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Now if this was a rumor that was positive for the PS4 or a negative for the Nextbox there would be 100 threads made by cows claiming this to be fact.ultrakingthe low number of replies just shows me that no one cares for xbox anymore I care. I think a lot of people do. But I'm not really interested in feeding the rumor mill. We'll see in April.
Try to build a PC with the capabilities of the PS4 and tell me how much you spend...[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"]Just a question, if you guys care so much about power, why don't you game on PC? I thought graphics/power doesn't matter to consolites.zeeshanhaider
$250-300 if you already have a decent CPU and you could have much more powerful rig than PS4 right now.! :D
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Really so where can you buy 8GB of GDDR5...
Did you read my post well,i say try to build not recycle a PC,in fact the GPU equivalent of the PS4 is $200 dollars,and doesn't have 8GB GDDR5.
Building a console from scratch to beat the PS4 probably like $700+ if nore more,and not all would be apple to apple.
Not everyone has the patience to hook it up to the tv, Sony 1st party games, bad, buggy ports, delays, driver updates, viruses, patches, DRM, constant upgrades to new hardware, not enough support from developers. Not every pc gamers can enjoy crysis 3 at 1080p ultra quality. Do I have to keep on going?[QUOTE="gpuking"][QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"]
Just a question, if you guys care so much about power, why don't you game on PC? I thought graphics/power doesn't matter to consolites.
zeeshanhaider
But anyways, I guess this will turn into another pointless argument. I thought consoles are all about convenience and not power. Seems silly watching you consolites fighting over power.
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The PS4 is a PC smart guy..Can you record video while videogaming at the same time on PC without taking a huge hit on performance.?
[QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"]
[QUOTE="gpuking"] Not everyone has the patience to hook it up to the tv, Sony 1st party games, bad, buggy ports, delays, driver updates, viruses, patches, DRM, constant upgrades to new hardware, not enough support from developers. Not every pc gamers can enjoy crysis 3 at 1080p ultra quality. Do I have to keep on going?tormentos
But anyways, I guess this will turn into another pointless argument. I thought consoles are all about convenience and not power. Seems silly watching you consolites fighting over power.
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The PS4 is a PC smart guy..Can you record video while videogaming at the same time on PC without taking a huge hit on performance.?
All I need is a capture card. Even without one I can record at 60FPS with a minimal impact on frames.Â
The PS4 is a PC smart guy..Can you record video while videogaming at the same time on PC without taking a huge hit on performance.?
tormentos
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Lol! Â Yes. You didn't know this? Â There are like 10 different recording apps you can use on PC to record video with minimal or no real impact on frame rate. That's cause PC's have full powered, multi-core desktop CPU's, unlike the PS4, which can only do this by adding another, specialized chip.
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There's also capture cards that can be used if you ansolutely need 0 impact on performance.
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The PS4 is a PC smart guy..Can you record video while videogaming at the same time on PC without taking a huge hit on performance.?
Kinthalis
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Lol! Â Yes. You didn't know this? Â There are like 10 different recording apps you can use on PC to record video with minimal or no real impact on frame rate. That's cause PC's have full powered, multi-core desktop CPU's, unlike the PS4, which can only do this by adding another, specialized chip.
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There's also capture cards that can be used if you ansolutely need 0 impact on performance.
Recording mainly hits ram and hard drives anyway. As long as you have a fast (or separate) hard drive and a decent amount of ram you can record fine.False..The specs for the xbox720 came out for it already along with the PS4. The only thing Microsoft can do is match Sony 8GB DDR5 ..if they dont the new xbox720 system will be outdated. If Microsoft do indeed put the 8GB DDR5 they risk delaying their launch and Sony will beat them to the market..
[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]
This is the same leaked specs as we've seen before, with the next Xbox being weaker than the PS4 - and that was before we knew the PS4 was having 8 GBs of GDDR5. The gap is even wider now.
xhawk27
You must be a fool if you don't think MS is not going to have 8gb of Ram too.Â
They already do, it's just slower ram than the PS4.Now if this was a rumor that was positive for the PS4 or a negative for the Nextbox there would be 100 threads made by cows claiming this to be fact.CanYouDiglt
LOL this is hard a hardly positive for the 720. Specs are still inferior, but I'm guessing you didin't read the article.
[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Now if this was a rumor that was positive for the PS4 or a negative for the Nextbox there would be 100 threads made by cows claiming this to be fact.StrongBlackVine
LOL this is hard a hardly positive for the 720. Specs are still inferior, but I'm guessing you didin't read the article.
Of course he didn't.[QUOTE="Speedzilla"]
Here's the real specs: Kinectbox
xhawk27
Yeah you wish. All you Sony fanboys are going to be Owned in April. :cool:
im goin to laugh at the set top box with less power then a 360 lolÂIt's GDDR5 you moron, if you're going to act smart at least be smart.False..The specs for the xbox720 came out for it already along with the PS4. The only thing Microsoft can do is match Sony 8GB DDR5 ..if they dont the new xbox720 system will be outdated. If Microsoft do indeed put the 8GB DDR5 they risk delaying their launch and Sony will beat them to the market..
stayhigh1
http://www.examiner.com/article/xbox-720-specs-leaked-to-be-as-strong-as-pcs
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How is 1.2TFlops and half speed ram ...... blowing away 1.8TFlops and double speed ram ????
LOL, did you even read the link you gave ?
PS4 is DX11 too (at least the equivalent OpenGL version)
MS failed, big time
But their biggest problem is games, Fable has gone bad and all games i want are on PC, plus they stopped JRPGs
[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]
[QUOTE="xhawk27"]
You must be a fool if you don't think MS is not going to have 8gb of Ram too.Â
xhawk27
They are - but 8 GBs of DDR3, which is significantly slower than GDDR5. Not to mention the rumors of the next Xbox's OS taking up 3 GBs, that leaves roughly 5 GBs of DDR3 for games, in contrast with the probably 7 or so GBs of GDDR5 on the PS4. It's a significant difference.Â
That's a rumor. I don't believe the next Xbox's OS is going to take up that much Ram. The OS's in the 360 only took up about 64mb of Ram.Â
32MB actually.old article and it doesn't even contain anything except that the gpu can handle DX11. nothing to see here folks
GotNugz
[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Now if this was a rumor that was positive for the PS4 or a negative for the Nextbox there would be 100 threads made by cows claiming this to be fact.StrongBlackVine
LOL this is hard a hardly positive for the 720. Specs are still inferior, but I'm guessing you didin't read the article.
I barely skimmed it. I am sick of rumors and I do not consider any fact. I will give two examples the rumor was PS4 would have 4 gb of memory and clearly that changed. Last gen the 360 had far less memory until just a few months before release so things can always change.I think where Sony put their console is where its gonna end. MS could add more features, put in a stronger CPU, GPU, More RAM and all that junk, but the main limiting factor is cost. You can make a console as strong as a PC, but who really wants so spend that much money? I personally believe that PS4/Nextbox will have similar specs with only slight variations.
the low number of replies just shows me that no one cares for xbox anymore[QUOTE="ultraking"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Now if this was a rumor that was positive for the PS4 or a negative for the Nextbox there would be 100 threads made by cows claiming this to be fact.xhawk27
The Xbox 360 is #1 for 25 straight months in North America. :cool:
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Ah America. Land of the fat idiot. As if voting for Bush twice was stupid enough. No, they had to go and vote Obama in not once, but twice. And yes I am an American. So seeing a console that has a high failure rate, charges you for what everybody else gets for free, and throws the same three games at you every year do so well isn't suprising.It seems most of this forum is overly negative and pessimistic about the third Xbox other than this dedicated cult of baboons who think it'll blow away the PS4 in every way based on pretty much nothing at all. Am I the only one who is somewhere in the middle? :o
It seems most of this forum is overly negative and pessimistic about the third Xbox other than this dedicated cult of baboons who think it'll blow away the PS4 in every way based on pretty much nothing at all. Am I the only one who is somewhere in the middle? :o
Floppy_Jim
Yep. Despite having similar CPUs and GPUs made by the same company, the PS4 will blow the Xbox 3 out of the water because reasons.
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