New Rumor / Leak PS5 499 Euro / PS5 Digital 399 Euro

Not sure if you did the conversion or the article did

but 1 Euro = 1.19 USD so 499 Euros is actually 592.46 and 399 Euro is $473.73

Not really. It's essentially a low-end PC at a mid-range price.

A 3700x, 2080 and a faster SSD than anything currently on the market is low end? LMAO. You hermits are trying too hard. The insecurity you guys have over your overpriced Minesweeper machines is cute.

12 is a larger number than 9. Sorry, bud.

I understand its frustrating, but the 9.2tflops is here to stay for the whole generation. Painful 5 years is approaching 🙃🙃🙃

9.2 is only 53% faster than the One X.

Well, just like any other rumor or leak who really knows yet? That said, $500 is what I was expecting either way.

You really don't understand how 9 - 12 works, sure XSX has more grunt, but the way you emphasize it just sounds like an indoctrinated fanboy, perhaps even humping Phil himself. The difference will barely show any significance, unless delusion takes over, happens I guess. Both will be mid range before release nevertheless, but keep hyping.

Sorry, but i listen to what Phil says, not some random poster on a forum. He knows what he's talking about, while you're just salty because the PS5 is 30%+ less powerful 😢

Nope. New series of video cards and processors coming out soon, cheaper versions next year. The new gen console advantage is going to be gone quicker than usual for PlayStation. Your kids toy is going to be very dated in 2021, and pure trash by 2022. Get a better at life so you don't have to play the worst version of games for the next 8 years like you did the last 8 years.

You do know your little toy will be 3rd place in gfx right?

That's why you wait a little for the new parts. We get it, the price gap is worst at the start of a new gen. Consoles have a huge advantage in this department than they typically do for this short period of time. The short period of time where you're going to get to leave your cave and bash PC. But PC will close that gap quickly, and then you're going to have to go into hiding in most hardware threads again for 7 years.

The reason why I will spend that $700-1000 on upgrading in 2021 rather than buying a PS5:

• Better GFX
• Far better performance
• Far more AAA and AA games (PC decimated PS4 this gen.)
• Far far far better Online (Exponentially more active games, players, and competitive gaming. PSN is basically non existent in comparison.)
• Ultrawide (I wish they would support this).

And I get to keep it far better than your toy at any point I want, with the gap increasing exponentially early into the gen like it did last gen.

And most console players don't have a PRO or even a PS4, and won't have a PS5.

There are more PCs that beat a PS4 or PS4PRO than the unit sales of each of those system. PS4 by several times. The same will be said for PS5 in 2021. And this increases exponentially. You're only talkative now cause the new gen lol.

That's very cheap if anything

Nice deflection. who is talking about the XSX? Just a minute ago you were riding PC.

You your self put the rope over your own kneck is sad.

Not terrible. It's gonna come down to the games and BC in terms of how soon I go for one

1-You are deflecting badly.

2-Yes and it show Halo Infinite look 30%+ better than PS5 games.😎

3-And i know you are a dusted alt of some of the old lemmings,who can't post now because they would look to stupid trying to hype the small gap the series X has while they downplayed 40% more on 2013 and defended paying $100 more for it.

4-That is funny because you were riding PC in one moment,then went running to hide on XSX,simply because you can't explain why the PS5 is abysmal at $500 not that your stupid comment about 9.2TF was right to begin with,but there was no need to even adress it,just asking you why it is abysmal was enough to send you running off with no clear direction what so ever lemming.

5-When you quote me hyping RDNA3 on PS5 you will have a point,by the way i was one of those who downplayed that silly notion.

Now wipe your tears and tell me how it is abysmal when you need probably double the money on PC to get what the PS5 offers.

There is no conversion for all intended purposes the PS4 was 399 euros when it came out and 399 dollars when it came out in US.

So no the PS5 will not cost 592 dollars nor 473.

Sure you do lemming but didn't you just claim you were not a fanboy?So why are you listening to what phill say?

Again is your stupidity the problem with your arguments,you keep throwing that rope around your kneck.🤣

Everytime some one call the PS5 9.2TF i think of this.

@Grey_Eyed_Elf: " A all digital console with 825GB storage space... Sound's future proof."

Yeah Im surprised this isnt talked about more.

It's expandable?

@rzxv04: The PS5 has an expandable NVME/M.2 slot IIRC.

@regnaston: Don't ask me why, but they never do it that way. Almost a certainty that a 499 euro console will be a 499 dollar one

What console is really future proof? Not even PC is,a PC from 2006 doesn't accept DDR4 memory,or newer cpu.

@tormentos: I love how you quote me with images that i was posting before you even fund them. You think that i am a fanboy just like you, but on the lems side lol. I exposed Infinite more than you ever will. Imagine a fanboy lemming doing that. Its the next generation of lemmings, we just bash our own system and games. You've been such a fanboy for so long (on SW alone), that you just cannot imagine someone that isn't fanboying any brands and just points out their negative in hope they improve that shit. No matter how hard you try, you cannot, at any cost, see past your Sony fanboy goggles.

Oh and btw, just because i know it triggers you, 9.2tflops is pretty underpowered for Q4 2020. Stuck with it for the next 5 years, tho. Nothing can be done about it 😥RDNA3 inside the ps5 will save the day, tho. Combine that with its SSD and even the NASA computers cannot compete.

Yup. I wonder if the market will eventually jackup prices of those sticks at least short term. The PS5 whitelisted ones, I mean.

@rzxv04: Ah, dang, I read it as, "Is it expandable."

But, yeah, I dunno. Probably not gonna affect NVME SSD prices much.

@Grey_Eyed_Elf: 825 GB? COD & Fortnite gonna take like half of that.

Oh, is Sony doing a digital console? Nice. $100 cheaper sounds good. I'm sure that's the model I'd go for if I was buying a PS.

Everyone relax and just enjoy video games while we've got em, alright?

Midrange this, teraflop that, just play ya vidja games

People here are just adding SW flavor. Don't go too far or you'd get banned.

@rzxv04: @tormentos: @speedytimsi: "825 GB? COD & Fortnite gonna take like half of that."

Ands thats what I was getting at. I mean an all digital game machine thats seems to only hold 3-5 games at a time sounds off to me.

Im assuming these new custom SSDs are actually more expensive than an UHD BluRay drive.

So going by that, I was thinking the digital version should retail more than the physcial version.

Instead of a 825GB, the digital version should be 2TB at $450-$499 while the disc version is $400-$450.

Besides price, i don't really see the difference between the two.

If sony are this competitive it will put a lot of pressure on xbox especially with the lockhart that will have to be priced accordingly.

It was from the article, I think they tweaked based on pricing from previous consoles across countries, compare to the euro price they found.

You're ignorant if you think a $500 mid-range PC is only good for playing Minesweeper.

Calling PS5 a toy reeks of desperation and insecurity. At launch it will be far more capable for games than what the vast majority of PC gamers are using. Obviously at some point next year we'll have cards that allow a similar build around that price point but it's a long way off and downplaying the fact that Sony and MS have for once produced something decent (60fps more of a reality for console gamers now) just makes people think PC gamers are complete idiots. No surprise to see you in particular giving us a bad name again.

If you want to talk about 'toys' go have look at the Switch, not next gen consoles. I won't be buying a PS5 till it has some good exclusives who knows how long that will take but I'll get one eventually because I love my PC but also I love games and they're bound to have some pretty good ones.

That's the difference between us, I'm 100% gamer, you're 100% fanboy.

@dzimm: not that I'm siding with fanboymcswag, but what kind of midrange pc is 500? That's nonsense IMO. I don't know why some PC gamers try to argue the cheap argument. It's not about cheap. I would never steer a budding pc gamer to a 500 build

Nope. It's $20 according to Digital Foundry as well. The drives are cheap. The consumer base for such drives in the PC market is so small that the drives need to be priced that way. 1 sold external drive pays for the manufacturing of 20. And even then the margins are razor thin. Nobody buys those things...

My self thinking you are a fanboy or not is irrelevant when you just admit you listen to Phill words which is basically a corporate face who has own him self multiple times.

No what you are doing is playing pretend which you are not the first guy to do it in this place.

Well look at it this way,you still saying a bunch of shit without actually saying anything meaningful,so again why is the PS5 abysmal at $500 that is all i want to know with something that actualy make sense.

Actually the PS4 was considerably weaker in 2013 than the the PS5 is this holiday,the fun part is that most gamers on PC arfe on a 1060GTX or lower which is bellow the PS5,and the fun part is that building a 1060 PC now cost you more than the PS5 wold still,if you build a 2060RTX one even more,so soon most of those on the 1060,will move to the 2060RTX and will still pay more than we will do on PS5 while been just as behind or even more.

Well look at it this way there is a fu** ton of laptops for gaming that cost a fu** ton more than the PS5 and still just as stock as the PS5 is,but hell even on destop is not like you are getting a FREE GPU upgrade or ultra fast ssd either those things cost a pretty penny and buying a new one will surely cost you more than a PS5 once again.

You keep bringing RDNA3 as if that mean anything to me what a poor pathetic effort.

You are not a blind alt fanboy because i say so,you are so because you just dropped PC,hide on the xbox and claimed you listed to PHILL.

It wasn't me who did that it was you lemming.

Now please compose your self wipe your tears and explain to us why the PS5 is abysmal at $500 when a 5700XT is over $400 dollars now in some models alone.

Sure as soon as you can find me a PS5 that can do what a Switch does at 250-300 bucks.

And 100% of the console gamers have systems that are worse than 1060 or barely equals it. The majority of them are non-gamers who play press 'X' to win titles and stare at cutscenes.

Exactly.

Not only that but at this point building a PC with PS5 specs will cost you considerably more than a PS5,hell even more if that $400 model is true.

A 5700XT is close to $400 in some models and more than $450 in others,then add a Ryzen 2 8 cores 16 threads is like $200+ that alone you are already over $600 and practically have nothing.

Your missing quite a few component.

Hell in the spirit of matching what the PS5,a gen 4 Nvme will set one back for another $200 if you are looking for 1TB,which is the closes to the PS5,512GB still is over $100.

https://www.amazon.com/-/es/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=twister_B08D7BH2V1?_encoding=UTF8&th=1

So building a PC that match the PS5 will cost considerably more than a PS5.

Even without UHD drive matching $400 is impossible on PC side or $500.

Don't hold ya breath waiting for generational differences in multiplats between the ps5 and the SeX. I wouldn't want you to pass out.

If you shop smart and build yourself then $500 for a midrange PC is possible. "Midrange" meaning a PC that can play most games at medium to high settings. This is, of course, not considering peripherals like monitor, speakers, mouse/keyboard, etc.

$199.99 or bust. :P

I assume you mean shopping "used components" right? I'm sorry but when one builds a PC, you don't build by making it the same spects on a console. You build to be above anything. Cheap PC isn't the word, its budget wise you are trying to say.

The fun part about the sad lemming is that he claims to not be a fanboy,yet is hiding behind the series X and making false claims exactly like lemmings that the PS5 is far behind when is 18.3% and probably 21% at the other end,this is the same people who defended a 40% weaker console that was $100 more,hell the digital edition PS5 if true is a kick to the series X face if it hits for $500.

With a $500 dollar PC you will not match or be close to the PS5,which is the point here even less a $400 PC since there supposely a $400 PS5 model.

My view with PC gaming is to buy the best, almost best at least. Can't do that? Buy a console.

I think I've noticed a trend for hardware generation releases, tech advances and price cuts on PC to basically stall around the time of console launch for the last two gens. I suppose that's what happens when you only have two (at best) parts manufacturers carving up each sector.

Wait it out and component prices will drop again - by a huge margin if console sales underperform. Can't see the point in buying base models at launch, since the Pro model will be along soon.

The 1060 is a pretty good card. That's what I was using in my living room PC for a long time.

60fps in most games no problem. 1080p scaled up to 4K by my TV. That PC cost me $600 in 2016. It's in a Node 202 case so it fits right in with my entertainment center.

Good shit.

No, you can build a midrange PC with new parts for less than $600 easily, and it will be able to run any game on the market, just not at the highest settings (basically, console level graphics).

@dzimm: I highly doubt anything you put together with new parts for $500 would be considered midrange by our peers.

*edit* - if your standard is an X1 or PS4... dude, those are hd7900-7850 equivalent hardware. Those haven't been close to "midrange" since their launch