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#1 SolidTy
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Well, SW here's the news that hasn't made it's round here yet (from my scanning of the SW pages)...

New 360 Update incompatible with some models.

The plus side is that you may get a free Xbox Slim for your troubles...

"Microsoft has confirmed that some Xbox 360 consoles weren't happy with a recent firmware update upcoming, mandatory firmware update. The console manufacturer will replace consoles that have become unable to read retail game discs with a new Xbox 360 S with 250 GB hard drive.

"Following a recent update to our system software, we have become aware of an issue that is preventing a very small number of Xbox 360 owners from playing retail game discs," a Microsoft statement reads. "This issue manifests itself a as a unique 'disc unreadable' or 'disc unsupported' error on the screen and is unrelated to our recent public beta (alteration from original Eurogamer statement).

We are also able to detect this issue over Xbox Live and are proactively reaching out to customers that may be impacted to replace their console."The firmware update implements new anti-piracy measures (along with a 1GB bump in disc storage capacity) that apparently don't play nice with certain DVE drives. Given that the Xbox 360 has had several revisions to its guts over the years, this is the reason why only certain models will be affected.We've contacted Microsoft to find out what North American consumers should do if their console is incompatible with the update. European consumers have been told to go to Microsoft's general support page."

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This issue manifests itself as a unique 'disc unreadable' or 'disc unsupported' error on the screen. Make sure SW that you act fast and contact www.xbox.com/support/or call 1-800-4My-Xbox to get this problem nipped in the bud. It seems a New 360 may be the solution for a lot of you gamers out there. :P

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Is this the update that was available for early testers? Or is it for everyone now?

I haven't updated mine yet.

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#3 789shadow
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Yeah, a pending update that's in beta. Which they have to fix problems like these.

So yeah, all your old consoles gonna die.

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http://majornelson.com/2011/05/18/clearing-up-some-confusion/

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Really my friend has an old 360 and it is running fine. Least it is better than getting a bargin bin game for not been able to play online for almost a month. :D
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#6 TheColbert
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Considering you get a new Xbox if it happens it's not all that bad. Mine is the one before the Slim came out so I doubt it will have any problems.
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#7 SolidTy
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Is this the update that was available for early testers? Or is it for everyone now?

I haven't updated mine yet.

Haziqonfire

Right now, it's in Beta...but it will roll out to everyone at some point. I believe this particular problem being talked about though, is for the older update. So, it seems it takes time before some news breaks...

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#8 789shadow
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

Is this the update that was available for early testers? Or is it for everyone now?

I haven't updated mine yet.

SolidTy

Right now, it's in Beta...but it will roll out to everyone at some point.

You mean at the point it stops killing older consoles? Then yeah.

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#9 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

Is this the update that was available for early testers? Or is it for everyone now?

I haven't updated mine yet.

789shadow

Right now, it's in Beta...but it will roll out to everyone at some point. I believe this particular problem being talked about though, is for the older update. So, it seems it takes time before some news breaks...

You mean at the point it stops killing older consoles? Then yeah.

Maybe, I don't know. If that happens, hopefully people here in SW and whereever else contact the manufacturer and possibly get a new machine. A bit of a hassle, but them's the breaks with online in our consoles.

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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

Is this the update that was available for early testers? Or is it for everyone now?

I haven't updated mine yet.

789shadow

Right now, it's in Beta...but it will roll out to everyone at some point.

You mean at the point it stops killing older consoles? Then yeah.

Most likely it is going to be push back to fix the problem. You know that is what betas are for. ;) Also doesn't stop Sony for releasing bad firmware updates that bricks console like the new update does. :D
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#11 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Right now, it's in Beta...but it will roll out to everyone at some point.

xhawk27

You mean at the point it stops killing older consoles? Then yeah.

Most likely it is going to be push back to fix the problem. You know that is what betas are for. ;) Also doesn't stop Sony for releasing bad firmware updates that bricks console like the new update does. :D

You know what's funny? I didn't even mention Sony.

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#12 djsifer01
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Thanks for posting that. One of my 360's is a older model.
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#13 tagyhag
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A new Slim console? That's awesome. :D You wouldn't see Sony doing something like this.

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well i hope it kills mine i have an old one and wouldnt mind a free slim
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#15 xhawk27
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[QUOTE="xhawk27"][QUOTE="789shadow"]

You mean at the point it stops killing older consoles? Then yeah.

789shadow

Most likely it is going to be push back to fix the problem. You know that is what betas are for. ;) Also doesn't stop Sony for releasing bad firmware updates that bricks console like the new update does. :D

You know what's funny? I didn't even mention Sony.

Yeah I know just saying both MS and Sony should test their firmware updates a lot better.
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#16 SolidTy
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Thanks for posting that. One of my 360's is a older model.djsifer01

You are welcome sir. I actually have an older $399 at the time 20gig 360 from 2005 as well. :P

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#17 Snugenz
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Well, SW here's the news that hasn't made it's round here yet (from my scanning of the SW pages)...

New 360 Update incompatible with some models.

The plus side is that you may get a free Xbox Slim for your troubles...

"Microsoft has confirmed that some Xbox 360 consoles weren't happy with a recent firmware update upcoming, mandatory firmware update. The console manufacturer will replace consoles that have become unable to read retail game discs with a new Xbox 360 S with 250 GB hard drive.

"Following a recent update to our system software, we have become aware of an issue that is preventing a very small number of Xbox 360 owners from playing retail game discs," a Microsoft statement reads. "This issue manifests itself a as a unique 'disc unreadable' or 'disc unsupported' error on the screen and is unrelated to our recent public beta (alteration from original Eurogamer statement).

We are also able to detect this issue over Xbox Live and are proactively reaching out to customers that may be impacted to replace their console."The firmware update implements new anti-piracy measures (along with a 1GB bump in disc storage capacity) that apparently don't play nice with certain DVE drives. Given that the Xbox 360 has had several revisions to its guts over the years, this is the reason why only certain models will be affected.We've contacted Microsoft to find out what North American consumers should do if their console is incompatible with the update. European consumers have been told to go to Microsoft's general support page."

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This issue manifests itself as a unique 'disc unreadable' or 'disc unsupported' error on the screen. Make sure SW that you act fast and contact www.xbox.com/support/or call 1-800-4My-Xbox to get this problem nipped in the bud. It seems a New 360 may be the solution for a lot of you gamers out there. :P

SolidTy

Ah so this issue isnt related to the Beta ...

*retreats and hides*

My apologies for the other thread :P

P.S: And i must test my Elite for this, havnt turned it on it weeks ...

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I really hope mine dies :P
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#19 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Well, SW here's the news that hasn't made it's round here yet (from my scanning of the SW pages)...

New 360 Update incompatible with some models.

The plus side is that you may get a free Xbox Slim for your troubles...

"Microsoft has confirmed that some Xbox 360 consoles weren't happy with a recent firmware update upcoming, mandatory firmware update. The console manufacturer will replace consoles that have become unable to read retail game discs with a new Xbox 360 S with 250 GB hard drive.

"Following a recent update to our system software, we have become aware of an issue that is preventing a very small number of Xbox 360 owners from playing retail game discs," a Microsoft statement reads. "This issue manifests itself a as a unique 'disc unreadable' or 'disc unsupported' error on the screen and is unrelated to our recent public beta (alteration from original Eurogamer statement).

We are also able to detect this issue over Xbox Live and are proactively reaching out to customers that may be impacted to replace their console."The firmware update implements new anti-piracy measures (along with a 1GB bump in disc storage capacity) that apparently don't play nice with certain DVE drives. Given that the Xbox 360 has had several revisions to its guts over the years, this is the reason why only certain models will be affected.We've contacted Microsoft to find out what North American consumers should do if their console is incompatible with the update. European consumers have been told to go to Microsoft's general support page."

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This issue manifests itself as a unique 'disc unreadable' or 'disc unsupported' error on the screen. Make sure SW that you act fast and contact www.xbox.com/support/or call 1-800-4My-Xbox to get this problem nipped in the bud. It seems a New 360 may be the solution for a lot of you gamers out there. :P

Snugenz

Ah so this issue isnt related to the Beta ...

*retreats and hides*

My apologies for the other thread :P

P.S: And i must test my Elite for this, havnt turned it on it weeks ...

Yeah, no problem. :P Test away.:)

I know a lot more than I post, but I'm always multitasking on the PC...let's just say, you were my muse for me actually taking time away from my activities to actually educate SW this time around. Maybe it will help some folks, and that's always good. :P

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I have a 20GB white 360, but I think its a Elite model, just.. Well, white & only 20GB without the other little things the elite models have. I've been trying to find a larger, new hard drive in a retail store for it but haven't had much luck so getting a free Slim would be pretty awesome. Just how old does the 360 have to be?

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#21 Jynxzor
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Not related to the new beta The issue is from a previous manditory firmware update.

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am i the only one believes this is somewhat positive news for owners of old consoles?
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am i the only one believes this is somewhat positive news for owners of old consoles?Mystery_Writer

I see it as a good thing since they're owning up to it.

Unlike other companies...

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This is from a very recent update right? Haven't had one for ages - but fingers crossed! (Can't believe I'm saying that....tbh I'd rather it stay working :P)
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I wonder when an update will bring some exclusives to the system. Hell it's even losing it's superior multiplat edge it has on PS3, the PS3 versions of games either running better or getting exclusive content. Mean time lems get exclusive DLC for homefront :lol:

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Hope that doesn't happen because I have a 2007 elite that I would prefer to keep over spending $300 dollars on a new 250 GB Slim.
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#27 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]am i the only one believes this is somewhat positive news for owners of old consoles?tagyhag

I see it as a good thing since they're owning up to it.

Unlike other companies...

That's a record. That's twice you posted in this thread, and twice you brought in Sony! Did you get a PS3 recently or something? I know for years you were a 360/PC gal! Congrats! :P

Hopefully that darn Sony will own up to whatever they need to so we can link it in this thread someday! :P

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#28 Snugenz
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This is from a very recent update right? Haven't had one for ages - but fingers crossed! (Can't believe I'm saying that....tbh I'd rather it stay working :P)Ravensmash

Haha, for the first time in 6 years the collective XB userbase booted up hoping their console would be bricked, makes a nice change :P.

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nice play on words, champ.

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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]am i the only one believes this is somewhat positive news for owners of old consoles?SolidTy

I see it as a good thing since they're owning up to it.

Unlike other companies...

That's a record. That's twice you posted in this thread, and twice you brought in Sony! Did you get a PS3 recently or something? I know for years you were a 360/PC gal! Congrats! :P

Hopefully that darn Sony will own up to whatever they need to so we can link it in this thread someday! :P

You do have a point. Afterall, MS is giving away free systems to anyone that encounters this and Sony will do the usual pass the buck and dodge the issue. So it is an unfair comparison....

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]This is from a very recent update right? Haven't had one for ages - but fingers crossed! (Can't believe I'm saying that....tbh I'd rather it stay working :P)Snugenz

Haha, for the first time in 6 years the collective XB userbase booted up hoping their console would be bricked, makes a nice change :P.

This gen has been crazy. :P
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[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]am i the only one believes this is somewhat positive news for owners of old consoles?tagyhag

I see it as a good thing since they're owning up to it.

Unlike other companies...

Yeah, I'm glad MS is being forthcoming about this issue and is working with users to rectify the issue by giving them a new console and a year's worth of Live for free. That's a heck of a nice gesture if you ask me.

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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]am i the only one believes this is somewhat positive news for owners of old consoles?The_Game21x

I see it as a good thing since they're owning up to it.

Unlike other companies...

Yeah, I'm glad MS is being forthcoming about this issue and is working with users to rectify the issue by giving them a new console and a year's worth of Live for free. That's a heck of a nice gesture if you ask me.

Yeah after those years of milkage through live they should give something back.

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I really hope mine dies :PFunconsole

I might have to recconnect my console to the internet again :D

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#36 xhawk27
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This isn't the new update its from an old update from last month or more that is causing the problems.
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[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]am i the only one believes this is somewhat positive news for owners of old consoles?tagyhag

I see it as a good thing since they're owning up to it.

Unlike other companies...

Actually Sony has owned up to firmware problems before.

Also for the record, they fixed them for free.

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Really my friend has an old 360 and it is running fine. Least it is better than getting a bargin bin game for not been able to play online for almost a month. :Dxhawk27
Do you only play online games...?
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]am i the only one believes this is somewhat positive news for owners of old consoles?catfishmoon23

I see it as a good thing since they're owning up to it.

Unlike other companies...

Actually Sony has owned up to firmware problems before.

Also for the record, they fixed them for free.

I didn't read Sony is giving free systems away in that link...

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That's bad news for old console owners. shame
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For a thread NOT about Sony, there sure is a lot of bashing going around.

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[QUOTE="catfishmoon23"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

I see it as a good thing since they're owning up to it.

Unlike other companies...

KevinnButlerNPK

Actually Sony has owned up to firmware problems before.

Also for the record, they fixed them for free.

I didn't read Sony is giving free systems away in that link...

I don't believe I said that, did I? :?

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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

I see it as a good thing since they're owning up to it.

Unlike other companies...

Espada12

Yeah, I'm glad MS is being forthcoming about this issue and is working with users to rectify the issue by giving them a new console and a year's worth of Live for free. That's a heck of a nice gesture if you ask me.

Yeah after those years of milkage through live they should give something back.

Meh. Maybe some of these other folks were milked, but I wasn't. I paid for Live because I find value in it. :)

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Well I have no problems so I guess I am okay... "Microsoft has confirmed that some Xbox 360 consoles weren't happy with a recent firmware update upcoming, mandatory firmware update. The console manufacturer will replace consoles that have become unable to read retail game discs with a new Xbox 360 S with 250 GB hard drive." ... ahh damn, why is my console okay, 360 S please.
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[QUOTE="xhawk27"]Really my friend has an old 360 and it is running fine. Least it is better than getting a bargin bin game for not been able to play online for almost a month. :DBlabadon
Do you only play online games...?

I play some single player games but mostly Online games about 60% of the time.
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]am i the only one believes this is somewhat positive news for owners of old consoles?SolidTy

I see it as a good thing since they're owning up to it.

Unlike other companies...

That's a record. That's twice you posted in this thread, and twice you brought in Sony! Did you get a PS3 recently or something? I know for years you were a 360/PC gal! Congrats! :P

Hopefully that darn Sony will own up to whatever they need to so we can link it in this thread someday! :P

Nah I still don't have a PS3. :( (Would love one but I barely have time to play one system as it is, stupid life and all its downsides :lol: ) I just view Sony as MS's main competitor (Much like many here in SW, I mean, we want to have a fair fight so we can't include the PC in this) so I just find it funny how MS would actually give you a brand new console while Sony gives you a hug and a "We're sorry" :P

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#48 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

I see it as a good thing since they're owning up to it.

Unlike other companies...

tagyhag

That's a record. That's twice you posted in this thread, and twice you brought in Sony! Did you get a PS3 recently or something? I know for years you were a 360/PC gal! Congrats! :P

Hopefully that darn Sony will own up to whatever they need to so we can link it in this thread someday! :P

Nah I still don't have a PS3. :( (Would love one but I barely have time to play one system as it is, stupid life and all its downsides :lol: ) I just view Sony as MS's main competitor (Much like many here in SW, I mean, we want to have a fair fight so we can't include the PC in this) so I just find it funny how MS would actually give you a brand new console while Sony gives you a hug and a "We're sorry" :P

What, Sony gives more than a hug. You can download Pursuit Force for the PSP. :D
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#49 tomarlyn
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Bad times for the HD twins right now :P I think my 360 is a Falcon and its been working fine
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#50 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]am i the only one believes this is somewhat positive news for owners of old consoles?The_Game21x

I see it as a good thing since they're owning up to it.

Unlike other companies...

Yeah, I'm glad MS is being forthcoming about this issue and is working with users to rectify the issue by giving them a new console and a year's worth of Live for free. That's a heck of a nice gesture if you ask me.

If anything, they come out winners in all of this. A 360 Slim and a free year of Live? Damn, I wish the update had killed my launch 360! :o