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#51 1stPlaceWinner
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

I see it as a good thing since they're owning up to it.

Unlike other companies...

tagyhag

That's a record. That's twice you posted in this thread, and twice you brought in Sony! Did you get a PS3 recently or something? I know for years you were a 360/PC gal! Congrats! :P

Hopefully that darn Sony will own up to whatever they need to so we can link it in this thread someday! :P

Nah I still don't have a PS3. :( (Would love one but I barely have time to play one system as it is, stupid life and all its downsides :lol: ) I just view Sony as MS's main competitor (Much like many here in SW, I mean, we want to have a fair fight so we can't include the PC in this) so I just find it funny how MS would actually give you a brand new console while Sony gives you a hug and a "We're sorry" :P

why would they give something?
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#52 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

For a thread NOT about Sony, there should is a lot of bashing going around.

TheGuardian03

I guess it proves this is lemspot.

Are we really acting like PS3 fanboys don't do the same thing? Really? :?

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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

That's a record. That's twice you posted in this thread, and twice you brought in Sony! Did you get a PS3 recently or something? I know for years you were a 360/PC gal! Congrats! :P

Hopefully that darn Sony will own up to whatever they need to so we can link it in this thread someday! :P

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Nah I still don't have a PS3. :( (Would love one but I barely have time to play one system as it is, stupid life and all its downsides :lol: ) I just view Sony as MS's main competitor (Much like many here in SW, I mean, we want to have a fair fight so we can't include the PC in this) so I just find it funny how MS would actually give you a brand new console while Sony gives you a hug and a "We're sorry" :P

why would they give something?

Because it's the nice thing to do. I wonder why MS or Sony didn't give anything to those affected by the RRoD or Firmware 2.40 brickage besides free replacement?

Getting your console fixed for free definitely isn't enough for me and it shouldn't be for you either :).

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#55 BodyElite
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Why even post this? The point of MS letting people test the update first is to fix problems like this. You guys are acting as if MS will release the update totally ignoring the problems that they should fix in the beta. Because that is why it's called the beta.........
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#56 psn8214
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Are we really acting like PS3 fanboys don't do the same thing? Really? :?

TheGuardian03

Sure they do.

True that. Lems are just more fun to mess with.

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#57 Ragnarok1051
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Why even post this? The point of MS letting people test the update first is to fix problems like this. You guys are acting as if MS will release the update totally ignoring the problems that they should fix in the beta. Because that is why it's called the beta.........BodyElite
They released the 360 knowingly with faulty hardware...
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#58 1stPlaceWinner
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[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Are we really acting like PS3 fanboys don't do the same thing? Really? :?

psn8214

Sure they do.

True that. Lems are just more fun to mess with.

They do seem to get riled up much quicker than anyone else. I mean we can never forget that La Noire thread.
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#59 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Are we really acting like PS3 fanboys don't do the same thing? Really? :?

psn8214

Sure they do.

True that. Lems are just more fun to mess with.

That is true PSN that is true. :P
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I wonder when an update will bring some exclusives to the system. Hell it's even losing it's superior multiplat edge it has on PS3, the PS3 versions of games either running better or getting exclusive content. Mean time lems get exclusive DLC for homefront :lol:Espada12

It's already got exclusives coming up. Plus "losing superior multiplat edge to PS3?" If anything, it's still there for 360.

Thank god I have a slim.TheGuardian03

Me too.

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[QUOTE="djsifer01"]Thanks for posting that. One of my 360's is a older model.SolidTy

You are welcome sir. I actually have an older $399 at the time 20gig 360 from 2005 as well. :P

as do i. i hope to god this kills my console so i dont have to pay 100 ****ing dollars just to play my 360 on my damn monitor.
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#62 tagyhag
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why would they give something?1stPlaceWinner

Because it's their own software that's killing the systems. Instead of fixing them, they're giving out a brand new system and a year of Live. That seems like a good deal to me.

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#64 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"]They do seem to get riled up much quicker than anyone else. I mean we can never forget that La Noire thread.psn8214

Yeah, in my considerable time lording over these forums, I've found that provoking lems tends to lend to far more entertaining overreactions and false delusions of grandeur than the other two camps. It's consistently fun. Gotta' love mah lem tears. :D

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I'll admit, I was hesitant at first doing the beta. But, I'm glad my system never kicked the bucket when I updated. Very good news for the folks that get a new Xbox though, they kind of lucked out to be honest.
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Ragnarok1051

Oh yes I did.


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[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"]why would they give something?tagyhag

Because it's their own software that's killing the systems. Instead of fixing them, they're giving out a brand new system and a year of Live. That seems like a good deal to me.

But that isn't true, it's LA Noire doing this not the firmware.
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I wish my console was broken. I want a 250GB Slim.
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#69 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"]why would they give something?1stPlaceWinner

Because it's their own software that's killing the systems. Instead of fixing them, they're giving out a brand new system and a year of Live. That seems like a good deal to me.

But that isn't true, it's LA Noire doing this not the firmware.

Oh you're talking about Sony. :lol: Well I'm sorry but you're still wrong.

http://playstationlife*****.net/2011/05/18/investigation-turns-up-l-a-noire-patch-details-claims-of-fw-3-61-overheating-consoles/

Replace ***** with "style" (Oh Gamespot HTML team, you guys are true masters of the Internet)

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[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"][QUOTE="tagyhag"]

Because it's their own software that's killing the systems. Instead of fixing them, they're giving out a brand new system and a year of Live. That seems like a good deal to me.

tagyhag

But that isn't true, it's LA Noire doing this not the firmware.

Oh you're talking about Sony. :lol: Well I'm sorry but you're still wrong.

http://playstationlife*****.net/2011/05/18/investigation-turns-up-l-a-noire-patch-details-claims-of-fw-3-61-overheating-consoles/

Replace ***** with "style" (Oh Gamespot HTML team, you guys are true masters of the Internet)

360 owners are having the same freezing and heating issues so how would this be cause by a PS3 firmware?

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360 owners are having the same freezing and heating issues so how would this be cause by a PS3 firmware?

1stPlaceWinner

You didn't know Sony was the reason for all the world's problems?

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#72 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator  Online
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360 owners are having the same freezing and heating issues so how would this be cause by a PS3 firmware?

1stPlaceWinner

Where do you see the overheating issues in that topic?

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[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"]360 owners are having the same freezing and heating issues so how would this be cause by a PS3 firmware?

Stevo_the_gamer

Where do you see the overheating issues in that topic?

I only linked freezing, heating can be seen on neogaf though. I think that's enough to show this isn't a PS3 problem anyway.
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[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"]360 owners are having the same freezing and heating issues so how would this be cause by a PS3 firmware?

Ragnarok1051

You didn't know Sony was the reason for all the world's problems?

Some people really do act like that sometimes.
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#75 tagyhag
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360 owners are having the same freezing and heating issues so how would this be cause by a PS3 firmware?

1stPlaceWinner

Who said the 360's freezing was due to Sony? :lol: Point that out to me please.

The 360's are also freezing, but it's due to their own (Microsoft's) firmware. Microsoft is giving out brand new consoles and 1 year of Live to those affected. What's Sony doing?

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#76 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator  Online
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I only linked freezing, heating can be seen on neogaf though. I think that's enough to show this isn't a PS3 problem anyway.1stPlaceWinner
Oh, got'cha. Thought it was referring to both. Kind of odd to link overheating to a game though... I can see freezing happening. I remember Fallout New Vegas giving some trouble on PS3, but overheating? That sounds silly.


Some people really do act like that sometimes.1stPlaceWinner
Thank goodness the SDF comes to the rescue. lol

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[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"]

360 owners are having the same freezing and heating issues so how would this be cause by a PS3 firmware?

tagyhag

Who said the 360's freezing was due to Sony? :lol: Point that out to me please.

The 360's are also freezing, but it's due to their own (Microsoft's) firmware. Microsoft is giving out brand new consoles and 1 year of Live to those affected. What's Sony doing?

I think the point is that Rockstar deleted there acusations pointed towards Sony, so it may not atcually be the 3.61 update afterall.

I remember Fallout New Vegas giving some trouble on PS3, but overheating? That sounds silly.Stevo_the_gamer

Personally I wouldn't doubt it, some bad code may be causing the system to work harder than it is supposed to. poorly optimized PC games do this all the time.

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#78 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"]
Some people really do act like that sometimes.Stevo_the_gamer

Thank goodness the SDF comes to the rescue. lol

That's funny since the SDF is made up of MS and Nintendo fans.

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#79 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator  Online
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That's funny since the SDF is made up of MS and Nintendo fans.

Ragnarok1051

It was a metaphor, but alright. lol

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#80 1stPlaceWinner
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[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"]I only linked freezing, heating can be seen on neogaf though. I think that's enough to show this isn't a PS3 problem anyway.Stevo_the_gamer

Oh, got'cha. Thought it was referring to both. Kind of odd to link overheating to a game though... I can see freezing happening. I remember Fallout New Vegas giving some trouble on PS3, but overheating? That sounds silly.


Some people really do act like that sometimes.1stPlaceWinner
Thank goodness the SDF comes to the rescue. lol

I have to be a defense force? please, i'm just clearing up the BS.

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#81 tagyhag
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I think the point is that Rockstar deleted there acusations pointed towards Sony, so it may not atcually be the 3.61 update afterall.

Jynxzor

Could have been, but my link says otherwise. "PS3 overheating with non-Rockstar games on 3.61 as well"

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[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"]

360 owners are having the same freezing and heating issues so how would this be cause by a PS3 firmware?

tagyhag

Who said the 360's freezing was due to Sony? :lol: Point that out to me please.

The 360's are also freezing, but it's due to their own (Microsoft's) firmware. Microsoft is giving out brand new consoles and 1 year of Live to those affected. What's Sony doing?

Nothing yet because it hasn't even been proven to be the firmware's fault.

If it is proven to be the firmware's fault, I'm sure they'll replace broken consoles for free just as they did before.

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Personally I wouldn't doubt it, some bad code may be causing the system to work harder than it is supposed to. poorly optimized PC games do this all the time.

Jynxzor

Hmm. That isn't too much of a stretch I suppose. But the code would affect every console out there that played the game, wouldn't it... ?

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#84 tagyhag
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Nothing yet because it hasn't even been proven to be the firmware's fault.

If it is proven to be the firmware's fault, I'm sure they'll replace broken consoles for free just as they did before.

catfishmoon23

It's too bad they won't give you a brand new console with 1 year of PSN Plus though. Kinda ironic that they supposed "evil greedy M$" would. :lol:

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#85 KevinnButlerNPK
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"]

360 owners are having the same freezing and heating issues so how would this be cause by a PS3 firmware?

catfishmoon23

Who said the 360's freezing was due to Sony? :lol: Point that out to me please.

The 360's are also freezing, but it's due to their own (Microsoft's) firmware. Microsoft is giving out brand new consoles and 1 year of Live to those affected. What's Sony doing?

Nothing yet because it hasn't even been proven to be the firmware's fault.

If it is proven to be the firmware's fault, I'm sure they'll replace broken consoles for free just as they did before.

fixed does not equal replaced. Nice try though...

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It's a real shame that the 360 has been plagued with hardware problems from the start.
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[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]

Personally I wouldn't doubt it, some bad code may be causing the system to work harder than it is supposed to. poorly optimized PC games do this all the time.

Stevo_the_gamer

Hmm. That isn't too much of a stretch I suppose. But the code would affect every console out there that played the game, wouldn't it... ?

True, this is why I think individual consol health could be an issue here as well. A poorly maintained launch 80g system will be more prone to heating issues than a newer 250g slim.
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#88 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="catfishmoon23"]

Nothing yet because it hasn't even been proven to be the firmware's fault.

If it is proven to be the firmware's fault, I'm sure they'll replace broken consoles for free just as they did before.

tagyhag

It's too bad they won't give you a brand new console with 1 year of PSN Plus though. Kinda ironic that they supposed "evil greedy M$" would. :lol:

Thanks for bringing that up Tagy. I missed your other 10 mentions of it. :P
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#89 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

[QUOTE="catfishmoon23"]

Nothing yet because it hasn't even been proven to be the firmware's fault.

If it is proven to be the firmware's fault, I'm sure they'll replace broken consoles for free just as they did before.

Ragnarok1051

It's too bad they won't give you a brand new console with 1 year of PSN Plus though. Kinda ironic that they supposed "evil greedy M$" would. :lol:

Thanks for bringing that up Tagy. I missed your other 10 mentions of it. :P

Just proving a point Rag, just proving a point . :P

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#90 KevinnButlerNPK
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[QUOTE="catfishmoon23"]

Nothing yet because it hasn't even been proven to be the firmware's fault.

If it is proven to be the firmware's fault, I'm sure they'll replace broken consoles for free just as they did before.

tagyhag

It's too bad they won't give you a brand new console with 1 year of PSN Plus though. Kinda ironic that they supposed "evil greedy M$" would. :lol:

Are you kidding? 1 month of PS+ is torture.

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#91 catfishmoon23
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[QUOTE="catfishmoon23"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

Who said the 360's freezing was due to Sony? :lol: Point that out to me please.

The 360's are also freezing, but it's due to their own (Microsoft's) firmware. Microsoft is giving out brand new consoles and 1 year of Live to those affected. What's Sony doing?

KevinnButlerNPK

Nothing yet because it hasn't even been proven to be the firmware's fault.

If it is proven to be the firmware's fault, I'm sure they'll replace broken consoles for free just as they did before.

fixed does not equal replaced. Nice try though...

I think you need to read a bit more carefully. I never said replaced with a new console :).

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[QUOTE="Jynxzor"] True, this is why I think individual consol health could be an issue here as well. A poorly maintained launch 80g system will be more prone to heating issues than a newer 250g slim.

Well, the fat PS3s were tanks. They can handle heat very well, where as the Slim isn't as durable. So that makes sense, but considering just how many Slims are out there. You'd think an issue like this would be a pandemic, not just a few minor cases; hence why I think the overheating linked to the firmware or a game to be rather... lame.
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#93 KevinnButlerNPK
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[QUOTE="KevinnButlerNPK"]

[QUOTE="catfishmoon23"]

Nothing yet because it hasn't even been proven to be the firmware's fault.

If it is proven to be the firmware's fault, I'm sure they'll replace broken consoles for free just as they did before.

catfishmoon23

fixed does not equal replaced. Nice try though...

I think you need to read a bit more carefully. I never said replaced with a new console :).

Oh ok, so insyead of replacing with a new console, you imply they'll replace it with another broken console.

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#94 catfishmoon23
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[QUOTE="catfishmoon23"]

[QUOTE="KevinnButlerNPK"]fixed does not equal replaced. Nice try though...

KevinnButlerNPK

I think you need to read a bit more carefully. I never said replaced with a new console :).

Oh ok, so insyead of replacing with a new console, you imply they'll replace it with another broken console.

No, replaced with a working console (which could be new or refurbished, the article doesn't specify).

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Oh ok, so insyead of replacing with a new console, you imply they'll replace it with another broken console.

KevinnButlerNPK

Wasn't that what MS did at the start of the gen before they redesigned the chips in the console? The original line of 360s was like a ticking time bomb most people said.

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Moderations, moderations! :(

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#97 catfishmoon23
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[QUOTE="catfishmoon23"]

Nothing yet because it hasn't even been proven to be the firmware's fault.

If it is proven to be the firmware's fault, I'm sure they'll replace broken consoles for free just as they did before.

tagyhag

It's too bad they won't give you a brand new console with 1 year of PSN Plus though. Kinda ironic that they supposed "evil greedy M$" would. :lol:

As long as my console gets replaced for free if a firmware ever does cause it to overheat, I'll be happy :).

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#98 Rockman999
Member since 2005 • 7507 Posts
So this isn't just for the beta testers? Good thing I own a slim. :P
They do seem to get riled up much quicker than anyone else. I mean we can never forget that La Noire thread.1stPlaceWinner
Ugh don't remind me of that mess. :lol: I got suspended for three days cause this one idiot got "offended" that I called a random group of people completely unrelated to him "muppets". And they said they weren't mad. :lol:
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#99 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="KevinnButlerNPK"] Oh ok, so insyead of replacing with a new console, you imply they'll replace it with another broken console.

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Wasn't that what MS did at the start of the gen before they redesigned the chips in the console? The original line of 360s was like a ticking time bomb most people said.

I can tell you from personal experiece, I have had RROD 3 times, and one E-74. A few of those were the same console(s)...so the ticking time bomb scenario isn't far off from my vantage point. :P I can also speak from professional experience, that "Time Bomb" scenario plays pretty similar for those older 360's as well. :shock:

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#100 DarthBilf
Member since 2004 • 1357 Posts
Wait, you get a free Slim out of it? This seems like the Pokerus of console ailments. I want it!