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#1 Sniping_Crowbar
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I have an xbox 360 and a PC and it somewhat concerns me that there are reports starting to come up of the "new" xbox 360 having heating problems and crashing via the new shutdown feature of the 360. take a look at this, found this on destructoid about 2 minutes ago

http://www.destructoid.com/microsoft-responds-to-dot-of-death-allegations-177596.phtml

Well if this is indead true then i doubt i will buy another xbox 360, when his one dies, and it is bound to at some point as it was a replacement xbox. Evidently Microsoft fails again with hardware design. If this is jsut happening on a small scale then ok that is expected but judging by the comment that Microsoft made in that article and said nothing and completely ignored the issue then i beleive my fears are true. Good thing i didn't rush out and buy one like most people did.

I hope my 360 lasts long enough for me to at least play gears 3, i don't see any other games ont eh horizon for xbox except maybe wave your hands like an idiot games. Definitely picking up a PS3 at christmas.

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its a M$ product, wat do you expect?
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#3 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator  Online
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According to various reports? Yet they provide no evidence? I love hearsay. How does this even make news?

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Well I would expect them to make a better design considereing they had to shell out a ton of money for cutting corners it seems taht they dont give a **** The "darkside" over at Playstation 3 is really looking like an amazingly juicy hamburger right now.

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"We couldn't be more proud of the consoles we are building now, as well as the new Xbox 360. This console is the culmination of years of continuous innovation in design, testing and learning. Today we are confident we are shipping a high quality product."

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Jasper was a dandy revision.

not sure how they could possibly make it worse. If we use a handful of videos as our rubric...then yeah, MS failed big time on the 360 S.

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its a M$ product, wat do you expect?RTUUMM

And yet both the original Xbox, and Zune are very reliable products.

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#8 Ninja-Hippo
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People are blowing this out of all proportion because another Microsoft product which breaks easily would make awesome news.
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#9 Sniping_Crowbar
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According to various reports? Yet they provide no evidence? I love hearsay. How does this even make news?

Stevo_the_gamer

well this is how the RROD's first tarted appearing word of mouth, posted on srticles then it eas full blown out confirmed, I am hoping its all BS and its just a small number of people, and or people tryin to troll but I honestly wouldn't out it oast microsfot to cut corners as they have done so in the past with the first design with Xbox 360, the support for Games for windows Live, PC gaming, Windows Vista, Zune. We'll see hopefully it is all ok.

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[QUOTE="RTUUMM"]its a M$ product, wat do you expect?treedoor

And yet both the original Xbox, and Zune are very reliable products.

I know i bought a used xbox for $130 dollars in 2003 and it still works today, extremely reliable console, never had any issues with it, this is why its so frustrating that the xbox 360 has hardware problems some of the worst that i can remember.

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[QUOTE="RTUUMM"]its a M$ product, wat do you expect?treedoor

And yet both the original Xbox, and Zune are very reliable products.

Exactly so, what happened? Its very disappointing even the slim is having problems.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

According to various reports? Yet they provide no evidence? I love hearsay. How does this even make news?

Sniping_Crowbar

well this is how the RROD's first tarted appearing word of mouth, posted on srticles then it eas full blown out confirmed, I am hoping its all BS and its just a small number of people, and or people tryin to troll but I honestly wouldn't out it oast microsfot to cut corners as they have done so in the past with the first design with Xbox 360, the support for Games for windows Live, PC gaming, Windows Vista, Zune. We'll see hopefully it is all ok.

every 360 revision has videos on Youtube like this. Jasper, Falcon. and yet they were all improvements over the original 360 design.

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From wha ive seen The heatsink is orse than an Intel stock cooler for a PC and they are trying to cram both a CPU and a GPU under that heatsink, that jsut spells disater for heating issues. Now so far what ive heard it snot Red ringing its jsut randomly shutting off on some people due to overheating, so it basically shutsdown before it actually damages a part but if it is happening pretty frequently then they need to fire someone over at design.
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According to various reports? Yet they provide no evidence? I love hearsay. How does this even make news?

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The fact that enough ppl have complained that microsoft must make a response is more then enough evidence
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Well I would expect them to make a better design considereing they had to shell out a ton of money for cutting corners it seems taht they dont give a **** The "darkside" over at Playstation 3 is really looking like an amazingly juicy hamburger right now.

Sniping_Crowbar

Where did they cut corners? How is the design not a better design over the original? Hell, even the PS3 Slim runs extremely hot.

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#16 boredy-Mcbored
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Huh. You know, you'd think that after a thread like this being for the 5th time, people would post something on one of those threads instead of making a completely new one. Guess I'm wrong...

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#17 Respawn-d
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Ill do the smart thing and wait till the second gen slim comes out with a smaller chipset (meaning it creates less heat)

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#18 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator  Online
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

According to various reports? Yet they provide no evidence? I love hearsay. How does this even make news?

Respawn-d
The fact that enough ppl have complained that microsoft must make a response is more then enough evidence

They made a response not because of reports, but because a site asked for a comment via an email. :|
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#19 Respawn-d
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[QUOTE="Respawn-d"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

According to various reports? Yet they provide no evidence? I love hearsay. How does this even make news?

Stevo_the_gamer
The fact that enough ppl have complained that microsoft must make a response is more then enough evidence

They made a response not because of reports, but because a site asked for a comment via an email. :|

Sites are sending Microsoft questions all the time. Microsoft doesn't always answer.
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[QUOTE="Sniping_Crowbar"]

Well I would expect them to make a better design considereing they had to shell out a ton of money for cutting corners it seems taht they dont give a **** The "darkside" over at Playstation 3 is really looking like an amazingly juicy hamburger right now.

Stevo_the_gamer

Where did they cut corners? How is the design not a better design over the original? Hell, even the PS3 Slim runs extremely hot.

It may run hot but Sony has had a good track record this Gen of their systems being reliable and not breaking all the time. Ive gone through 2 xbox 360's and i am on a replacement xbox at the moment. The Redesign looks nice but honestly i think the problem is taht they treid to make it smaller, jammed a CPU and GPU in a heasink that is super tiny looks worse than an Intel stock heatsink, i know for sure they use cheap thermal compound as i craked open my first xbox 360 to fix it, and they kept the same **** dvd drive, a 12x one for that matter, there are tray drives that won't scratch your discs you know. I hope this is all a bunch of poop and its jsut a small amount of people, but Microsoft has a bad track record.

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Sites are sending Microsoft questions all the time. Microsoft doesn't always answer.Respawn-d
Yet that proves nothing about them recognizing this as a problem.

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Well I think part of the reason why launch 360s had such a huge RROD problem is because they were rushed out the door to meet launch date and get that 1 year lead on the competition.

As stated already, other microsoft products, like their computer accessories or Zune, have no massive debilitating defects so I think the 360 is just the bump in the road. There shouldn't have been any reason for microsoft to have to rush development of the new "slim" 360 so I think its a good bet to take these early reports with a grain of salt. I mean, any product can have some defects at the start; I'll start to get worried when a huge number of people begin having problems and not just a few youtube users posting videos.

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Well I think part of the reason why launch 360s had such a huge RROD problem is because they were rushed out the door to meet launch date and get that 1 year lead on the competition.

As stated already, other microsoft products, like their computer accessories or Zune, have no massive debilitating defects so I think the 360 is just the bump in the road. There shouldn't have been any reason for microsoft to have to rush development of the new "slim" 360 so I think its a good bet to take these early reports with a grain of salt. I mean, any product can have some defects at the start; I'll start to get worried when a huge number of people begin having problems and not just a few youtube users posting videos.

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Hopefully you are right.

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It may run hot but Sony has had a good track record this Gen of their systems being reliable and not breaking all the time. Ive gone through 2 xbox 360's and i am on a replacement xbox at the moment. The Redesign looks nice but honestly i think the problem is taht they treid to make it smaller, jammed a CPU and GPU in a heasink that is super tiny looks worse than an Intel stock heatsink, i know for sure they use cheap thermal compound as i craked open my first xbox 360 to fix it, and they kept the same **** dvd drive, a 12x one for that matter, there are tray drives that won't scratch your discs you know. I hope this is all a bunch of poop and its jsut a small amount of people,

but Microsoft has a bad track record.

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Ironically, my experience with Xbox 360s this generation have been much better than with Sony's Playstation 3. I had a Launch Xbox 360 last me till last January. That's more than four years, and my 40GB PS3 died in less than a few months. And I've had my PS3 Slim now since last September, and even that has given me a ****-ton of issues (corrupting saves, turning off randomly, constant freezing, failing to turn off at all). There's always folks getting YLODs as well, and overheating issues as well. Yet a few instances here for the Xbox 360 Slim and it's SW material. So easy to jump on that bandwagon regarding Xbox 360 reliability.

Yet Sony has an even worse track record with the PS1, PSP screens, and the PS2. It was rather surprising to see the PS3 hold up so well in regards to reliability.

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So the Sony fans are out to try and make this seem like some epidemic. Good luck with that one guys. This is day 5 of desparation. Threads just keep popping up about the same consoles over and over again.

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Man I hope GS have plenty by July 9th shipments so I can trade in my stuff and get it already. Got it pre-ordered and I'm ready, can't wait. I like the new design and I'm not worried about overheating issues.

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[QUOTE="Sniping_Crowbar"]

It may run hot but Sony has had a good track record this Gen of their systems being reliable and not breaking all the time. Ive gone through 2 xbox 360's and i am on a replacement xbox at the moment. The Redesign looks nice but honestly i think the problem is taht they treid to make it smaller, jammed a CPU and GPU in a heasink that is super tiny looks worse than an Intel stock heatsink, i know for sure they use cheap thermal compound as i craked open my first xbox 360 to fix it, and they kept the same **** dvd drive, a 12x one for that matter, there are tray drives that won't scratch your discs you know. I hope this is all a bunch of poop and its jsut a small amount of people,

but Microsoft has a bad track record.

Stevo_the_gamer

Ironically, my experience with Xbox 360s this generation have been much better than with Sony's Playstation 3. I had a Launch Xbox 360 last me till last January. That's more than four years, and my 40GB PS3 died in less than a few months. And I've had my PS3 Slim now since last September, and even that has given me a ****-ton of issues (corrupting saves, turning off randomly, constant freezing, failing to turn off at all). There's always folks getting YLODs as well, and overheating issues as well. Yet a few instances here for the Xbox 360 Slim and it's SW material. So easy to jump on that bandwagon regarding Xbox 360 reliability.

Yet Sony has an even worse track record with the PS1, PSP screens, and the PS2. It was rather surprising to see the PS3 hold up so well in regards to reliability.

Hopefully this is all a bunch of garbage like that troll video of a guy saying his power supply for the new xbox 360 RRODed, so hopefully its all jsut being blown out of proprtion, becasue honestly i dont want to have to start another game library with another system, because i love the one I already have, like you saod thyere is still no proof yet and hopefull it stays that way.

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So the Sony fans are out to try and make this seem like some epidemic. Good luck with that one guys. This is day 5 of desparation. Threads just keep popping up about the same consoles over and over again.

vaderhater

Well i created this trhead and I'm not a sony fanboy so fail on your coment, but to be honest i am slightly worried about this as i would like to keep my console or a long time as long as i have had my origianl xbox goin on 7 years now.

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What consoles with moving parts don't overheat, even if it's only once in a while?

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So the Sony fans are out to try and make this seem like some epidemic. Good luck with that one guys. This is day 5 of desparation. Threads just keep popping up about the same consoles over and over again.

vaderhater
Exactly, I have only heard of one story in particular that died about 2 hours in while they were converting their old HDD onto their new one.
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[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

So the Sony fans are out to try and make this seem like some epidemic. Good luck with that one guys. This is day 5 of desparation. Threads just keep popping up about the same consoles over and over again.

Sniping_Crowbar

Well i created this trhead and I'm not a sony fanboy so fail on your coment, but to be honest i am slightly worried about this as i would like to keep my console or a long time as long as i have had my origianl xbox goin on 7 years now.

Its not really against you but more against the usual suspects who jump all over stuff like this and then blow it all out of proportion.

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[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

So the Sony fans are out to try and make this seem like some epidemic. Good luck with that one guys. This is day 5 of desparation. Threads just keep popping up about the same consoles over and over again.

Sniping_Crowbar

Well i created this trhead and I'm not a sony fanboy so fail on your coment, but to be honest i am slightly worried about this as i would like to keep my console or a long time as long as i have had my origianl xbox goin on 7 years now.

so why not post in the 360 forum? You knew it would incite fanboy banter when you posted it, otherwise you wouldnt have put it here.
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People are blowing this out of all proportion because another Microsoft product which breaks easily would make awesome news. Ninja-Hippo

This. Even if there is a significant overheating problem, it'll take months to come to any sort of conclusion. As of now, it's just gamers/gaming 'journalists' trying to manufacture a story.

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[QUOTE="Sniping_Crowbar"]

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

So the Sony fans are out to try and make this seem like some epidemic. Good luck with that one guys. This is day 5 of desparation. Threads just keep popping up about the same consoles over and over again.

navyguy21

Well i created this trhead and I'm not a sony fanboy so fail on your coment, but to be honest i am slightly worried about this as i would like to keep my console or a long time as long as i have had my origianl xbox goin on 7 years now.

so why not post in the 360 forum? You knew it would incite fanboy banter when you posted it, otherwise you wouldnt have put it here.

um no i posted it here because more people are on this section than xbox.

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Uh, I am on my 5th Xbox (1)............so no, they pretty much have never had quality hardware.

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33% failure rate that they forsaw before it happened and you expect them to fix it altogether? The new Xbox is for the public eye. Same old piece of junk to me.
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P4 fans

nice MS

cutting corners much?

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I think we all saw this coming. The first problem anyone reported about the new model was going to be "OMG, TEH FAILZ!!!!". Seriously with this stuff.

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Uh, I am on my 5th Xbox (1)............so no, they pretty much have never had quality hardware.

dxmcat

yeah, I'm sure you went through 5 Original Xbox's:|

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[QUOTE="Inger1"]

Well I think part of the reason why launch 360s had such a huge RROD problem is because they were rushed out the door to meet launch date and get that 1 year lead on the competition.

As stated already, other microsoft products, like their computer accessories or Zune, have no massive debilitating defects so I think the 360 is just the bump in the road. There shouldn't have been any reason for microsoft to have to rush development of the new "slim" 360 so I think its a good bet to take these early reports with a grain of salt. I mean, any product can have some defects at the start; I'll start to get worried when a huge number of people begin having problems and not just a few youtube users posting videos.

Sniping_Crowbar

Hopefully you are right.

this

i don't think overheating consoles should continue to be a problem for anybody, regardless of platform

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#41 tempest91
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Uh, I am on my 5th Xbox (1)............so no, they pretty much have never had quality hardware.

dxmcat

The original was xbox rock solid. I'm not sure what you are doing to yours.

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The only thing I find really pathetic about the new 360 is that it still has a power brick.

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The only thing I find really pathetic about the new 360 is that it still has a power brick.

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eh.

at least it's not alone:)

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="Sniping_Crowbar"]

Well I would expect them to make a better design considereing they had to shell out a ton of money for cutting corners it seems taht they dont give a **** The "darkside" over at Playstation 3 is really looking like an amazingly juicy hamburger right now.

Where did they cut corners? How is the design not a better design over the original? Hell, even the PS3 Slim runs extremely hot.

false. the slim is actually quite cool, even after four to five hours. Evidence? The console sitting on my bed should suffice 8)
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#45 shadow8585
Member since 2006 • 2947 Posts
This is plain garbage. A well-made electronic due to it being an electronic and the law of averages, breaks down roughly 3% of the time. The new X360s have an unfair shadow of their heads and when MAYBE 5% of them dont work properly, it is naturally going to be blown out of proportion. I just ignore this garbage. Being an owner of an old X360 and an X360 S, I know from actually owning one that in fact M$ is right in saying this is a product they should be proud of
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#46 todd2r
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="Sniping_Crowbar"]

Well I would expect them to make a better design considereing they had to shell out a ton of money for cutting corners it seems taht they dont give a **** The "darkside" over at Playstation 3 is really looking like an amazingly juicy hamburger right now.

Sniping_Crowbar

Where did they cut corners? How is the design not a better design over the original? Hell, even the PS3 Slim runs extremely hot.

It may run hot but Sony has had a good track record this Gen of their systems being reliable and not breaking all the time. Ive gone through 2 xbox 360's and i am on a replacement xbox at the moment. The Redesign looks nice but honestly i think the problem is taht they treid to make it smaller, jammed a CPU and GPU in a heasink that is super tiny looks worse than an Intel stock heatsink, i know for sure they use cheap thermal compound as i craked open my first xbox 360 to fix it, and they kept the same **** dvd drive, a 12x one for that matter, there are tray drives that won't scratch your discs you know. I hope this is all a bunch of poop and its jsut a small amount of people, but Microsoft has a bad track record.

my dead 60GB says hi.

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#47 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="RTUUMM"]its a M$ product, wat do you expect?treedoor

And yet both the original Xbox, and Zune are very reliable products.

I blame the external power brick, had they put it inside with a nice big fan on the cpu and exhaust fan I bet that would solve half their problems but they don't want to make it any bigger.
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#48 monson21502
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my ps3 slim gets way hotter then my dead 60 gig ever did. im hoping it dies. then im gonna own sony;)

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#49 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator  Online
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[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"] I blame the external power brick, had they put it inside with a nice big fan on the cpu and exhaust fan I bet that would solve half their problems but they don't want to make it any bigger.

There's still an external power supply... it's just a smaller brick. Probably similar in size to the Wii's power brick.
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#50 spike6566
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LMao and lemmings actually thought that MS would make a product that wouldnt break in a week?