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#51  Edited By imt558
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@kvally said:

@quadknight: Hopefully like NEO bringing up the horrid 900p of Flopcharted 4 to 1080p.

Uncharted is 1080p in SP campaign. "Flopcharted" and game isn't out yet. LOL! Idiot remain idiot. Damn, i'm so sorry what parents did to you during your childhood. Probably you will do the same to your son.

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#52  Edited By tormentos
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While there's nothing wrong with referencing a source, there's nothing to steal since NEO GAF doesn't own the screenshot.

For example, if a user screenshots my XYZ software, the user doesn't own those XYZ screenshots.

Hahahaaha no Ron when we say stolen from Neogaf we mean that we copy the news from that site instead of another source. :)

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#53 delta3074
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@casharmy said:
@emgesp said:
@tormentos said:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1212309

Stolen from Neo gaf.

Apparently is a slim model,from there i think it will weight from 600 to 800 grams which is half or less of the xbox one weight.

A slimmer and more powerful XB1 is what Microsoft could use right now.

Is it?

MS has suggested they wouldn't be making any tier level xbox one systems unless they were lying trying to throw people off.

nope phil spencer said he wasn't a big fan of an Xbox 1.5 after already hinting a month before that Microsoft would release and upgraded console.

You need to get things in context, someone not liking something does not equate to them saying they will not release said something and Phil still has to do as he is told.

'"I’m not a big fan of Xbox One and a half. If we’re going to move forward, I want to move forward in big numbers," Spencer said. "I don’t know anything about any of the rumors that are out there, but I can understand other teams’ motivations to do that. For us, our box is doing well. It performs, it’s reliable, the servers are doing well. If we’re going to go forward with anything, like I said, I want it to be a really substantial change for people – an upgrade."

Basically he's saying it's pointless releasing anew Xbox unless it's a substantial upgrade.

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#54 kvally
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@imt558 said:
@kvally said:

@quadknight: Hopefully like NEO bringing up the horrid 900p of Flopcharted 4 to 1080p.

Uncharted is 1080p in SP campaign. "Flopcharted" and game isn't out yet. LOL! Idiot remain idiot. Damn, i'm so sorry what parents did to you during your childhood. Probably you will do the same to your son.

There is no need to be upset that Uncharted 4 runs at 900p, it will still be a good game.

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nope phil spencer said he wasn't a big fan of an Xbox 1.5 after already hinting a month before that Microsoft would release and upgraded console.

You need to get things in context, someone not liking something does not equate to them saying they will not release said something and Phil still has to do as he is told.

'"I’m not a big fan of Xbox One and a half. If we’re going to move forward, I want to move forward in big numbers," Spencer said. "I don’t know anything about any of the rumors that are out there, but I can understand other teams’ motivations to do that. For us, our box is doing well. It performs, it’s reliable, the servers are doing well. If we’re going to go forward with anything, like I said, I want it to be a really substantial change for people – an upgrade."

Basically he's saying it's pointless releasing anew Xbox unless it's a substantial upgrade.

I am sorry Delta but i think everything Phil say there is pure uncut damage controls,maybe because MS was catch pants down by sony with this move,in fact i am sure that MS move to PC has to do more with this new PS4 than anything else,so you can't play Forza on ultra settings ok play it on windows 10 on Ultra.

It make sense and i think MS may have find out either by a developer or a leak from inside that sony would release a new console with stronger GPU,so the best they could do was move their games to PC were you already can have stronger hardware while the game would still be closely control by MS it self using windows store.

I think MS will have a though time convincing the board about an upgrade xbox one,specially with the not so hot sales.

I also don't eat the whole substantial upgrade after they release the xbox one with amount to be a weak GPU on PC compare to were the 360 was tech wise on 2005.

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#56 imt558
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@kvally said:
@imt558 said:
@kvally said:

@quadknight: Hopefully like NEO bringing up the horrid 900p of Flopcharted 4 to 1080p.

Uncharted is 1080p in SP campaign. "Flopcharted" and game isn't out yet. LOL! Idiot remain idiot. Damn, i'm so sorry what parents did to you during your childhood. Probably you will do the same to your son.

There is no need to be upset that Uncharted 4 runs at 900p, it will still be a good game.

Why i should be upset cuz U4 runs at 1080p. What an idiot.

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#57 kvally
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@imt558 said:
@kvally said:
@imt558 said:
@kvally said:

@quadknight: Hopefully like NEO bringing up the horrid 900p of Flopcharted 4 to 1080p.

Uncharted is 1080p in SP campaign. "Flopcharted" and game isn't out yet. LOL! Idiot remain idiot. Damn, i'm so sorry what parents did to you during your childhood. Probably you will do the same to your son.

There is no need to be upset that Uncharted 4 runs at 900p, it will still be a good game.

Why i should be upset cuz U4 runs at 1080p. What an idiot.

LOL and runs in 900p. It will be ok man, don't fret.

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@kvally said:

LOL and runs in 900p. It will be ok man, don't fret.

Much better than Quantum break on xbox one..lol

900p 60FPS >>>>>>>>>> 720p sub 30...

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#59 kvally
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@tormentos said:
@kvally said:

LOL and runs in 900p. It will be ok man, don't fret.

Much better than Quantum break on xbox one..lol

900p 60FPS >>>>>>>>>> 720p sub 30...

Indeed 900p > 720p

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#60 imt558
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@kvally said:
@tormentos said:
@kvally said:

LOL and runs in 900p. It will be ok man, don't fret.

Much better than Quantum break on xbox one..lol

900p 60FPS >>>>>>>>>> 720p sub 30...

Indeed 900p > 720p

And also 1080p/30>>>>720p/30.

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#61 kvally
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@imt558 said:
@kvally said:
@tormentos said:
@kvally said:

LOL and runs in 900p. It will be ok man, don't fret.

Much better than Quantum break on xbox one..lol

900p 60FPS >>>>>>>>>> 720p sub 30...

Indeed 900p > 720p

And also 1080p/30>>>>720p/30.

Yup. Dat 900pStation

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@oflow said:
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Power isn't the problem, it's the lack of exclusive games that's holding back Xbox One. Not to mention, barley any JRPG exclusive games for that matter, other then scalebound, MS needs more games then raw power.

Not true. Only the hardcore fanboys complain about exclusives but the public doesn't care that much. Multiplats are what most people buy and most will either buy what their friends are on or they'll go for the one that performs the best and that's been the PS4. Hell the PS4 didn't have crap in the early going yet was selling like crazy. Even the Sony execs didn't understand why it was selling so well. Exclusives had nothing to do with it.

Pretty much nailed it. Its funny how Sony fanboys are all suddenly raving about exclusives since they are finally getting some, when for the first two years PS4 sold like crazy with only one AAA new exclusive, Bloodborne and thats a borderline niche game since lots of people dont like the Souls games.

Multiplats carry both systems and contrary to popular believe most people arent like the fanboys around here. Its actually shows that Sony's PR spin on 1080 worked since way more people are talking about resolution nowadays that didnt even know what 1080p meant last gen.

Also, the conjecture from SW cows is a bit ridiculous. Most of Xbox exclusives so far have been good games, they might not be games that you like which is personal preference. Just because you dont like them doesnt mean every game is bad, but according to cows here every game on Xbox One is a terrible flop, justified by the 'rules' of this crapfest of a forum. Nevermind the millions of people that play and enjoy these games...Sony's sold twice as many consoles so every Xbox game sucks.

Thats the fanboy tell, they are so insecure they wont even admit an Xbox game is good even with a huge lead, since they have to tow the party line and hating everything Xbox no matter what is part of it. All the hardcore cows here spew nothing but Xbox hate day in and day out. Look at the topics in this forums everyday. A good portion are basically Xbox hate letters for no reason but to hate. You almost never see cows here actually talking up the virtues of PS4 or its games, its just a constant stream of hate for Xbox no matter what.

Never even played a game? Doesnt matter hate it and call it a flop because its on Xbox. Dont like or even play a genre? If its on Xbox it sucks. Are cows really that butthurt over last gen?

Why else would you buy and Xbox or PS4 then - if not for exclusive games? If it wouldn't be for exclusives, a lot of less people would buy consoles. Without them, there'd be no reason to bother with ether consoles. Otherwise you're paying absurd prices for underpowered x86 components. Having said that, Xbox One is just another windows 10 for consoles only. PS4 however has lots of exclusive games, not talking about multiplats, just exclusive. TBH, this gen really isn't nothing to brag about, it's not the best nor worst, just average and PC gaming has gotten more popular is ever before.

Now point is, you are the only one and always assuming whoever talks somewhat bad things about Xbox One are now cows.

Not true. People buy consoles for what used to be ease of use. Didn't need to have a computer and could easily play from your living room TV. It has nothing to do with exclusives which is why 90% of the games are multiplat. People choose consoles based on a lot of factors and exclusives are just a part of it. Both consoles have games that aren't on the other but the most popular and most played games usually tend to be multiplats. This has been true for a few gens now.

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#63 imt558
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@kvally said:

Yup. Dat 900pStation

Guys, feed this dumbass troll. He will just show how big idiot he is.

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#64 kvally
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@imt558 said:
@kvally said:

Yup. Dat 900pStation

Guys, feed this dumbass troll. He will just show how big idiot he is.

You really should look at a different posting manner. You continue to call people names and insult. Why would you do that? Is life so bad that you insist to berate others, and cast sticks and stones? I don't see any need for you to be so mean and hateful. Be nice should be your (and everyone else's) mantra. It will make the world a better place.

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#65  Edited By blackace
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@tormentos said:

ttp://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1212309

Stolen from Neo gaf.

Apparently is a slim model,from there i think it will weight from 600 to 800 grams which is half or less of the xbox one weight.

Apparently is being produce since February this year,so probably unveil at E3.

Not a Slim. Is the PS4 Neo a Slim? Phil never said anything about XB1 Slim. He said he didn't want to do a weak upgraded XB1. Yes, it will most likely be revealed at the E3. Thank you "Captain Obvious." lol!!

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@silversix_ said:

Slimmer but with the same pathetic power would be fun to see.

Pretty sure you see that in your dreams all the time. Need to stop getting fantasy land and reality mixed up. No one from M$ said anything about an XB1 Slim, sooo I doubt it's a slim model.

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#66 imt558
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@kvally said:

You really should look at a different posting manner. You continue to call people names and insult. Why would you do that? Is life so bad that you insist to berate others, and cast sticks and stones? I don't see any need for you to be so mean and hateful. Be nice should be your (and everyone else's) mantra. It will make the world a better place.

Look at your post, dumbass. And you wonder why people call you like that. LOL.

As i said : Guys, feed this dumbass troll. He will just show how big idiot he is.

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#67 kvally
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@imt558 said:
@kvally said:

You really should look at a different posting manner. You continue to call people names and insult. Why would you do that? Is life so bad that you insist to berate others, and cast sticks and stones? I don't see any need for you to be so mean and hateful. Be nice should be your (and everyone else's) mantra. It will make the world a better place.

Look at your post, dumbass. And you wonder why people call you like that. LOL.

As i said : Guys, feed this dumbass troll. He will just show how big idiot he is.

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#68  Edited By Guy_Brohski
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@2Chalupas: The slim Xbox One can last MS until they reveal a new, true next gen Xbox at E3 2017, with a Fall 2017 release. The new Xbox will most likely be much more powerful than Neo/NX, Backwards Compatability w/Xbone and will be initially sold at a loss to give it an affordable entry price of $399-$449. Xbox will then then have the best versions of COD/Madden/FIFA for a while to drive sales, along with superior looking exclusives. MS can continue to support the Bone for a few years.

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#69  Edited By ronvalencia
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@tormentos said:
@kvally said:

LOL and runs in 900p. It will be ok man, don't fret.

Much better than Quantum break on xbox one..lol

900p 60FPS >>>>>>>>>> 720p sub 30...

24 fps = cinema experience. LOL.

@Guy_Brohski said:

@2Chalupas: The slim Xbox One can last MS until they reveal a new, true next gen Xbox at E3 2017, with a Fall 2017 release. The new Xbox will most likely be much more powerful than Neo/NX, Backwards Compatability w/Xbone and will be initially sold at a loss to give it an affordable entry price of $399-$449. Xbox will then then have the best versions of COD/Madden/FIFA for a while to drive sales, along with superior looking exclusives. MS can continue to support the Bone for a few years.

Due to large GPU chip size issue, Xbox One Next is unlikely to use late 2016 or early 2017's "Vega 10".

Xbox 360's GPU size = 180 mm^2. Not including 10 MB EDRAM

Xbox One's GPU size = 160 mm^2. Not including 32 MB ESRAM. From 365 mm^2 SoC budget, 229mm^2 is available for GPU and 32MB ESRAM.

Polaris 10's chip size is around 232 mm^2.

PS4's GPU chip size is around 212mm^2

Vega has slightly better perf/watt over Polaris.

Both MS and Sony has about 200 mm^2 chip area budgets for GPUs.

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#70  Edited By delta3074
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@davillain- said:
@oflow said:
@kingtito said:

Power isn't the problem, it's the lack of exclusive games that's holding back Xbox One. Not to mention, barley any JRPG exclusive games for that matter, other then scalebound, MS needs more games then raw power.

Not true. Only the hardcore fanboys complain about exclusives but the public doesn't care that much. Multiplats are what most people buy and most will either buy what their friends are on or they'll go for the one that performs the best and that's been the PS4. Hell the PS4 didn't have crap in the early going yet was selling like crazy. Even the Sony execs didn't understand why it was selling so well. Exclusives had nothing to do with it.

Pretty much nailed it. Its funny how Sony fanboys are all suddenly raving about exclusives since they are finally getting some, when for the first two years PS4 sold like crazy with only one AAA new exclusive, Bloodborne and thats a borderline niche game since lots of people dont like the Souls games.

Multiplats carry both systems and contrary to popular believe most people arent like the fanboys around here. Its actually shows that Sony's PR spin on 1080 worked since way more people are talking about resolution nowadays that didnt even know what 1080p meant last gen.

Also, the conjecture from SW cows is a bit ridiculous. Most of Xbox exclusives so far have been good games, they might not be games that you like which is personal preference. Just because you dont like them doesnt mean every game is bad, but according to cows here every game on Xbox One is a terrible flop, justified by the 'rules' of this crapfest of a forum. Nevermind the millions of people that play and enjoy these games...Sony's sold twice as many consoles so every Xbox game sucks.

Thats the fanboy tell, they are so insecure they wont even admit an Xbox game is good even with a huge lead, since they have to tow the party line and hating everything Xbox no matter what is part of it. All the hardcore cows here spew nothing but Xbox hate day in and day out. Look at the topics in this forums everyday. A good portion are basically Xbox hate letters for no reason but to hate. You almost never see cows here actually talking up the virtues of PS4 or its games, its just a constant stream of hate for Xbox no matter what.

Never even played a game? Doesnt matter hate it and call it a flop because its on Xbox. Dont like or even play a genre? If its on Xbox it sucks. Are cows really that butthurt over last gen?

Why else would you buy and Xbox or PS4 then - if not for exclusive games? If it wouldn't be for exclusives, a lot of less people would buy consoles. Without them, there'd be no reason to bother with ether consoles. Otherwise you're paying absurd prices for underpowered x86 components. Having said that, Xbox One is just another windows 10 for consoles only. PS4 however has lots of exclusive games, not talking about multiplats, just exclusive. TBH, this gen really isn't nothing to brag about, it's not the best nor worst, just average and PC gaming has gotten more popular is ever before.

Now point is, you are the only one and always assuming whoever talks somewhat bad things about Xbox One are now cows.

'Why else would you buy and Xbox or PS4 then'

Cost for one and it might be hard for you to understand but some people just prefer to play on consoles.

and he has a point but it applies to both Sets of fanboys, lemmings and Cows will both say good games are shit because they are on the 'other' console.

cows will say Halo and gears and Forza are trash despite the fact that all three are AAA franchises

Lemmings will say that GoW, Gran tourismo and uncharted are crap despite those there also being AAA franchises.

I don't own both, i only have an xbone but i game on my friends Ps4 and both console have Exclusives that are worth playing in my opinion.

I prefer Driveclub to Forza horizon 2 because Arcade racers are more my thing and Driveclub is just more fun in my opinion.

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@casharmy said:

So...a slim model of a system people barely want as it is? I guess this will be good for taking up less space in back room warehouses.