New Zelda will "be easier"

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Vaasman

That's terrible, but still pretty damn funny.

Pertaining to the topic, the only fear I have is sacrificing depth in favor of accessibility. One usually goes hand in hand with the other.While Miyamoto may not be making the game easier per se, he's certainly not going to be going back to the days of old OoT difficulty, and considering how simplistic TP was, I don't really see an upside to this.

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

Not to sound like a "hardcore gamer", but I have never found many of the modern Zelda games particularly hard... the retro ones were tougher, but not brutal or anything. Seems like an unnessecary step. Just add difficulty modes.

kontejner44

Strip down the 'adventure' and 'exploration' part and all you get is a glorified puzzle game. Bosses are basically moving puzzles, it's not an action game, you can't add difficulty modes.

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[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

Not to sound like a "hardcore gamer", but I have never found many of the modern Zelda games particularly hard... the retro ones were tougher, but not brutal or anything. Seems like an unnessecary step. Just add difficulty modes.

heysharpshooter

Strip down the 'adventure' and 'exploration' part and all you get is a glorified puzzle game. Bosses are basically moving puzzles, it's not an action game, you can't add difficulty modes.

Sure you can, just not universal ones. Easy mode would provide more tips on screen to help solve puzzles, and enemies could do less damage when you mess up. Something like that.

The idea of that just sounds complicated.

How about gamers who are not really into games not play our games and go back to wii sports? There, problem solved.

He said easier to play, not easier game. It could be they have some form of the Hint TVs in SMG 2 or Super Guide in the game to help players. If so, that means a harder Zelda is likely to be. yoshi_64

I hope so. Twighlight Princess was already ridiculously easy, what they need to do is increase the difficulty, or at least offer several difficulty levels.

I want it to be Zelda II hard.siLVURcross

When talking about controls, it makes sense. NES controls are very simple, and the less clicks the better.

Hopefully he just means the controls are going to be streamlined on wii. are we sure that's what he meant, and what did he actually say?

TP was ridiculously easy so i dont know how they can make it any more easier.

Hopefully he just means the controls are going to be streamlined on wii. are we sure that's what he meant, and what did he actually say?

Phaze-Two

Just look at the Super Mario 64 ---> Super Mario Galaxy analogy. It became streamlined, the interface is simplistic. The levels went from sandbox to linear. Levels are easier accessible, especially in SMG2.

Apply this logic to Zelda, and you get OoT --> Zelda TP --> Zelda Wii

If you didn't like TP changes, it's just gonna get alot worse lol.

"easier to play."

Just like Mario Galaxy 2 was supposed to be.

This is just that Demo Play stuff coming to fruition

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]I want it to be Zelda II hard.DaViD_99

Well, this is certainly old.

Hype meter went from off the charts to in the floor. SAGE_OF_FIRE

Lots of people are gonna be dissapointed when the game is too easy.

I never had any difficulty with any Zelda game. Was hoping for a bit of challenge for once.

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]I want it to be Zelda II hard.DaViD_99

Why? That's one of the best Zelda games ever.

If you read what Miyamoto actually said, then the aim is not to make Zelda easier but to make the game's controll mechanism more accessable.

In the same way that Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 are much streamlined and more accessable than Super Mario 64, for example.

This is not a bad thing. With the way Super Guide has been implemented so far, it stands to reason that the core difficulty for the next Zelda title will actually go up, rather than being reduced.

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Old. IWKYB

Pixel: What games have you passed without giving up and going to gamefaqs? When was the last time as well?

Mostly older games. My point wasn't having to go to Gfaqs. It's how often. I can beat most games only needing to visit gfaqs a handful of times. With Zelda games, if I don't have that faq printed out and at my side the entire game, I'm lost. The game generally gives me little indication of what to do.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

I find this good news. I never finished a Zelda game. Why? They were too complicated. I felt I needed to have a strategy guide glued to the TV just to do anything. Somethings you could figure out on your own but others were so obscure and bizzare with no clues in game that without a guide, I got lost.

I'm sure the "H4RDC0R3" gamers will denounce this, but I'm happy for it.

kontejner44

Specifically which Zelda games are you talking about? Try starting with DS Zeldas and TP, they're good in that regard.

Do not even touch Majoras Mask ;p

Link to the past

OOT

WW

Phantom Hourglass (lesser extent, it's far more straight forward but there were a few times that were utterly confusing)

Links awakening

LOZ.

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[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"] The whole idea is that your ment to explore and find out where to go, that was one of the finer points to a zelda game I would of thought. Not have your hand held. 88mphSlayer

You haven't watch a non gamer right? they will get frustarted in a couple of minutes and going back to Wii Sports, unless is someone who actually wants to get into the game, but non gamers wiil quite if they cannot even find the freaking sword, i say if they make the game more accessible to non gamers and at the same time make an awesome game like SMG2, then why not, even if the game is "easy".

Navi in Ocarina of Time and the boat in Wind Waker constantly remind players of what to do and where to go... so it's kind of a tired complaint about Zelda imo

Navi was little help most of the time. I'd talk to her and what she'd tell me to do didn't help at all. It was like being asked to guess what number someone was thinking of, from 1 to one thousand, and getting a hint that it was not 42. Not a huge help.

That's a shame. Everybody needs to just play their game and not just give up and go to gamefaqs. I haven't gone for guides since Virtua Fighter 5 and some char in depth moves.IWKYB

I hope this means toning down the diffuculty to the average game instead of changing it to where grandma does everything first try.

[QUOTE="IWKYB"]That's a shame. Everybody needs to just play their game and not just give up and go to gamefaqs. I haven't gone for guides since Virtua Fighter 5 and some char in depth moves.Pixel-Pirate

I completely agree.

However, I am really looking forward to a new Zelda game!

I've never actually had any real problem with zelda games in terms of difficulty. I guess the only two times where I was frustrated was during the goran roll challenge for the fierce diety link mask in MM and water temple in LOZ. I think they need to somehow change the formula for zelda so ppl won't feel like they're playing the same game they were 20 some years ago.

Twilight Princess was ridiculously easy.Messiahbolical-

Yea I waa gonna say the Zelda games are already too easy in my opinion. They should up the difficulty and I hope the controls are designed to be more user friendly.

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]Twilight Princess was ridiculously easy.Bigboi500

IMO if you care about challenge, shut off the PS3/WII.360 and go get an NES.

Easier?? WTH? is this game not easy enough? Where is Kratos?

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More Majora's Mask challenges plz!!!

Vaasman

lmao,

but ya, i heard he ment easier controles aswell, might be wrong though-.

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

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More Majora's Mask challenges plz!!!

Half-Way

lmao,

but ya, i heard he ment easier controles aswell, might be wrong though-.

zelda series is based on puzzles. The combat is very simple. Dumbing down the dungeons will just make this game mediocre.

there's no problem with this, super mario galaxy 2 has the dvd and hint tv's to tell people how to perform actions. easing people into playing more complicated is a great way to get none gamers gaming. at the moment controls can feel a little intimidating to people, so having in game guides and such is a good idea. it's better than making games easier.Mckenna1845

i completed TP in 6 hours, and now it's becoming easier. Why not just turn it into a movie.

Hopefully he is not referring to the dungeon being hard because that is what I enjoyed about the Zelda franchise, making it easier would ruin it for me.

To anyone that thinks Twilight Princess is easy: try playing through the game with the Ordon Sword.

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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

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More Majora's Mask challenges plz!!!

Nintendo_Ownes7

lmao,

but ya, i heard he ment easier controles aswell, might be wrong though-.

i completed TP in 6 hours, and now it's becoming easier. Why not just turn it into a movie.

Sandvichman

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]Twilight Princess was ridiculously easy.Bigboi500

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]

i completed TP in 6 hours, and now it's becoming easier. Why not just turn it into a movie.

nhh18

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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]

i completed TP in 6 hours, and now it's becoming easier. Why not just turn it into a movie.

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