Next Gen console not so powerful

amazing how the only people on topic are completely ignored.

As for the off topic people, I GUARANTEE you that about 5 million of the 360 sales are simple people who owned one at launch then had their warrenty run out and only re-purachsed the console because of how many games they already own for it.

The way I see it Sony and Microsoft will try to pull a Ninty and sell low powered, cheap machines, oblivious to the fact that 99% of casual gamers aren't going to buy another console while they already have one while Nintendo makes a powerful console to sell to those who actually buy consoles.

amazing how the only people on topic are completely ignored.

As for the off topic people, I GUARANTEE you that about 5 million of the 360 sales are simple people who owned one at launch then had their warrenty run out and only re-purachsed the console because of how many games they already own for it.

enygma500

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="nchan"]

Game development costs too high. Now that we see cases about just one game could potentially bankupt an entire company, next gen, it wouldn't surprise me if Wii2/HD is just slightly less powerful than Xbox 360 and PS3. PS4 and Xbox720 would be just slightly more powerful than their predeccesors. So to those that want real life and CG graphic next gen, don't expect one.

pyromaniac223

amazing how the only people on topic are completely ignored.

As for the off topic people, I GUARANTEE you that about 5 million of the 360 sales are simple people who owned one at launch then had their warrenty run out and only re-purachsed the console because of how many games they already own for it.

enygma500

Game development costs too high. Now that we see cases about just one game could potentially bankupt an entire company, next gen, it wouldn't surprise me if Wii2/HD is just slightly less powerful than Xbox 360 and PS3. PS4 and Xbox720 would be just slightly more powerful than their predeccesors. So to those that want real life and CG graphic next gen, don't expect one.

nchan

[QUOTE="enygma500"]

amazing how the only people on topic are completely ignored.

As for the off topic people, I GUARANTEE you that about 5 million of the 360 sales are simple people who owned one at launch then had their warrenty run out and only re-purachsed the console because of how many games they already own for it.

[QUOTE="nchan"]

Game development costs too high. Now that we see cases about just one game could potentially bankupt an entire company, next gen, it wouldn't surprise me if Wii2/HD is just slightly less powerful than Xbox 360 and PS3. PS4 and Xbox720 would be just slightly more powerful than their predeccesors. So to those that want real life and CG graphic next gen, don't expect one.

What are you guys doing, turning my thread into a argument about console unsatisfied customers. I'm just stating that Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony won't risk developing powerful consoles because game developments are too high. Did Factor 5 not went bankrupt because of Lair?nchan

With increased gaming costs we'll see companies becoming more risk averse. Expect an over reliance on established franchises and genres if the current trends continue. I'm like yourself though and believe Sony and MS will be looking at the Nintendo business model with envious eyes - successful and cost effective is the obvious strategy considering the current economic climate, which in turn equates to less emphasis on high performance and expensive components in our consoles.

Personally I'd prefer if console manufacturers opt for the wii-orientated route for the next gen, with a greater emphasis on innovation and new methods of interfacing with games. This stagnant industry needs it.

I don't think the next gen consoles will have to be more expensive to develop. They will probably use a similar setup but with more RAM and a lot more powerfull GPU's. These two factors are the main reasons why these consoles today are behind. They don't need to develop a totally new CPU with a trillion G.Flops. Both the X360 and the PS3 could easely have run Crysis at the beginning of this gen if it had'nt been for the low amount of RAM they have, the RAM will be more important when developing a console for the next gen.

I think Sony have learned with the PS3 that putting a lot of money in developing a new type of CPU is just stupid when you can put the money in the GPU development instead.

Martin_G_N

But now that cell is out and parallel next gen Sony can put in 2 or 4 for an upgrade

i'll admit that i am a bit of a graphics whore. but i do sincerely hope they'll keep improving the graphics.

i could deal with the current graphics setting, or even a minor improvements for next gen. the only thing i'll admit is that the interface and way you play the games needs to be worked on. therefore motion controls is a way too that.

[QUOTE="Martin_G_N"]

I don't think the next gen consoles will have to be more expensive to develop. They will probably use a similar setup but with more RAM and a lot more powerfull GPU's. These two factors are the main reasons why these consoles today are behind. They don't need to develop a totally new CPU with a trillion G.Flops. Both the X360 and the PS3 could easely have run Crysis at the beginning of this gen if it had'nt been for the low amount of RAM they have, the RAM will be more important when developing a console for the next gen.

I think Sony have learned with the PS3 that putting a lot of money in developing a new type of CPU is just stupid when you can put the money in the GPU development instead.

Ravenlore_basic

But now that cell is out and parallel next gen Sony can put in 2 or 4 for an upgrade

[QUOTE="Ravenlore_basic"]

[QUOTE="Martin_G_N"]

I don't think the next gen consoles will have to be more expensive to develop. They will probably use a similar setup but with more RAM and a lot more powerfull GPU's. These two factors are the main reasons why these consoles today are behind. They don't need to develop a totally new CPU with a trillion G.Flops. Both the X360 and the PS3 could easely have run Crysis at the beginning of this gen if it had'nt been for the low amount of RAM they have, the RAM will be more important when developing a console for the next gen.

I think Sony have learned with the PS3 that putting a lot of money in developing a new type of CPU is just stupid when you can put the money in the GPU development instead.

TroyM1

But now that cell is out and parallel next gen Sony can put in 2 or 4 for an upgrade

As long as sony use common pc parts like Microsoft the console will be cheaper

[QUOTE="Ravenlore_basic"]

[QUOTE="Martin_G_N"]

I don't think the next gen consoles will have to be more expensive to develop. They will probably use a similar setup but with more RAM and a lot more powerfull GPU's. These two factors are the main reasons why these consoles today are behind. They don't need to develop a totally new CPU with a trillion G.Flops. Both the X360 and the PS3 could easely have run Crysis at the beginning of this gen if it had'nt been for the low amount of RAM they have, the RAM will be more important when developing a console for the next gen.

I think Sony have learned with the PS3 that putting a lot of money in developing a new type of CPU is just stupid when you can put the money in the GPU development instead.

TroyM1

But now that cell is out and parallel next gen Sony can put in 2 or 4 for an upgrade

MS uses 3 cpu's .... so 2, 3, or 4 cell cpus (simular to PC's now adays with 4 cores is nothing to complex) which are made to work together in parallel would not be too complex!!

[QUOTE="TroyM1"]

[QUOTE="Ravenlore_basic"]But now that cell is out and parallel next gen Sony can put in 2 or 4 for an upgrade

SragentThom

As long as sony use common pc parts like Microsoft the console will be cheaper

[QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]

[QUOTE="nchan"]

Game development costs too high. Now that we see cases about just one game could potentially bankupt an entire company, next gen, it wouldn't surprise me if Wii2/HD is just slightly less powerful than Xbox 360 and PS3. PS4 and Xbox720 would be just slightly more powerful than their predeccesors. So to those that want real life and CG graphic next gen, don't expect one.

karasill