Next gen no used games is gonna make devs real happy with ms!

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#1 ForzaGearsFace
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They will be the lead platform for sure and Microsoft games will be their # 1 priority if Sony or Nintendo doesn't follow suit. Once again genius move by Microsoft. Deal with it
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#2 MonsieurX
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Genius move?
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#3 ispeakfact
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Would be the best thing for MS to do to help make up for the lack of first party support, exclusives this gen.
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#4 Giancar
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Well it is a rumor, but I have mixed feelings about it

  1. One side are companies like Gamestop, which are the most repulsive thing ever, exploiting the used game industry. And leaving some good and small devs without a good chunk of the pie. Some devs really need the money for new projects, and some even to stay alive.
  2. In the ohter way are the consumer rights, you have the decision to do whatever you want to do with a product you already fully payed. And a lot of friends always lend games each other. Heck sometimes I lend my Ps3 for a 360 just to play some exclusives!

But in the end, all is based on speculations

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#5 LazySloth718
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Confirming no Xbox for me next gen.

Deal with it.

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#6 NaturalDisplay
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Its a double edged sword in my opinion. On the one hand you have more support from developers hence more games leading to more potential owners of the console. But on the other hand, people might steer away from the next gen xbox because they won't be able to play used games.

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#7 Demonjoe93
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Too bad no one wants to buy a system that scraps used games in favor of systems that allow used games (except fanboys such as yourself).

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#8 Vari3ty
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Genius move? Once most people find out that they can't haved used games sales will plummet for Microsoft.

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#9 NEWMAHAY
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Genius move? Once most people find out that they can't haved used games sales will plummet for Microsoft.

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I don't think Steam users are complaining Edit: steam prices are a lot lower than console price though. That makes up for it.
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#10 lundy86_4
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It may also severely impact sales of the system.

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#11 VoodooHak
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It's genius until retailers refuse to put the MS console on their shelves.

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#12 RoslindaleOne
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I doubt this rumor will happen. Once word gets out you can't play used games (I'm assuming you can't play your friends' copies either), no one would want to buy this system. I for sure wouldn't.
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#13 ActionRemix
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I have a feeling there will be no used games because it'll be a streaming service, which will not make devs happy. The server costs would likely be pretty huge if they're offloaded onto the publishers.
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#14 eboyishere
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b-b-but, what about the consumers? :o
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#15 DerekLoffin
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Yeah, no. Not happening for purely technical reasons if nothing else. They is no authentication system they could use that would prevent used game use without demand 100% up time on a net connection, which they simply won't have.
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#16 True_Chaos_UK
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Can't see this happening MS are sure to know this will effect hardware sales, I mean they don't even use online passes on the games they publish.

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#18 osan0
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assuming MS want this. im hoping its all false of course but i suspect 3rd parties are putting pressure on all 3 to provide this option. i wouldnt be surprised to see ninty and sony also announcing a nasty surprise. its been 3rd parties, not the manufacturers making noise about this issue and i suspect there now just putting the foot down.
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#19 MFDOOM1983
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The general consensus in threads on this topic always leans toward everyone losing interest in nextbox. But whenever a debate about online passes comes along, people say it doesn't affect them because they always buy new anyway. Just my observation.
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#20 ForzaGearsFace
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That would be great for Sony because they'd be getting my money next gen. This is a rumor anyway. hummer700
Yeah when modern warfare 4 comes out only for ms u will be left out, deal with it
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#21 freedomfreak
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I'm not buying the next xbox if this is the case.

And it also needs games.

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#22 KungfuKitten
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Who would sell that console? Nobody would.
Who would buy that console? Nobody would.
It's real genius.

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#23 Heil68
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since it's going 100% casual next gen, I don't think anybody would really care...well maybe soccer moms and their kids.
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#24 ForzaGearsFace
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Get ready for 3rd party devs to start making only for ms and see cows cry poverty lol
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[QUOTE="hummer700"]That would be great for Sony because they'd be getting my money next gen. This is a rumor anyway. ForzaGearsFace
Yeah when modern warfare 4 comes out only for ms u will be left out, deal with it

MS actually tried to buy the series and make it exclusive and Acti said no.....so it will be multiplat

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[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"][QUOTE="hummer700"]That would be great for Sony because they'd be getting my money next gen. This is a rumor anyway. eboyishere

Yeah when modern warfare 4 comes out only for ms u will be left out, deal with it

MS actually tried to buy the series and make it exclusive and Acti said no.....so it will be multiplat

Well with this no used game thing, things change, So deal with it
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[QUOTE="hummer700"]That would be great for Sony because they'd be getting my money next gen. This is a rumor anyway. ForzaGearsFace
Yeah when modern warfare 4 comes out only for ms u will be left out, deal with it

Do you seriously believe that?
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#28 eboyishere
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[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"] Yeah when modern warfare 4 comes out only for ms u will be left out, deal with itForzaGearsFace

MS actually tried to buy the series and make it exclusive and Acti said no.....so it will be multiplat

Well with this no used game thing, things change, So deal with it

naw it wont.

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#29 lundy86_4
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Well with this no used game thing, things change, So deal with itForzaGearsFace

They've done remarkably well with the series even with a used game market. Why would they ostracize an entire userbase on the off chance that the console sells well and they need not worry about used game sales?

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#30 AvnKnight
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Yeah until they realize microsoft sold only 5 consoles...

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#31 Demonjoe93
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Yeah until they realize microsoft sold only 5 consoles...

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3 of which were bought by ForzaGears. :lol:

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#32 Shielder7
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They will be the lead platform for sure and Microsoft games will be their # 1 priority if Sony or Nintendo doesn't follow suit. Once again genius move by Microsoft. Deal with itForzaGearsFace
They don't know it yet but developers are shooting themselves in the foot. And 3ed partys waved bye bye to Nintendo awhile ago and it hurt them so bad they've actually won this gen. Also hey ShadowMoses900 was right someone is sporting this already.
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#33 BibiMaghoo
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Yeah, no. Not happening for purely technical reasons if nothing else. They is no authentication system they could use that would prevent used game use without demand 100% up time on a net connection, which they simply won't have.DerekLoffin

Not true at all....

One time use serial codes would not require a constant online connection. You could have an encrypted list of around 10 million active keys on the disc itself. These keys would be registered once you sign in to live, so while those without an internet connection will never have the codes registered, it would stop that vast majoirty of people being able to trade the games.

Mainly because all retail stores would assume the code has been used. Some would get away with it, 99% of users would not.

1 time code = activation of the software. Live then provides the console with a pass to use the game. This would not require a 100% uptime at all. And thats just one method, Im sure they could do much better than I can think up.

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#34 Pug-Nasty
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It would be interesting if the next Xbox doesn't allow used games and the next PS does. Provided they sell somewhat similarly and the games are the same price next gen as they did this gen, we would finally get some real world data on whether or not used games hurt the publishers.

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#35 Twin-Blade
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I like to see game developers getting what they deserve for their hard work so I'm fine with this. I suppose those that couldn't care less about the people who make their games if it saves them a few bucks might be concerned though.

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#36 Demonjoe93
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I like to see game developers getting what they deserve for their hard work so I'm fine with this. I suppose those that couldn't care less about the people who make their games if it saves them a few bucks might be concerned though.

Twin-Blade

Or maybe because not everyone can afford to buy all their games new but they're terrible people too right?

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#37 ForzaGearsFace
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[QUOTE="Twin-Blade"]

I like to see game developers getting what they deserve for their hard work so I'm fine with this. I suppose those that couldn't care less about the people who make their games if it saves them a few bucks might be concerned though.

Demonjoe93

Or maybe because not everyone can afford to buy all their games new but they're terrible people too right?

Please stop and put up some spiderman pics and try to be funny cause we don't really care what your opinion is, this is for real deal posters not wannabes no offense Deal with it
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#38 dontshackzmii
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Many gamers would never buy their consoles if they can sell/trade games.

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#39 ForzaGearsFace
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[QUOTE="AvnKnight"]

Yeah until they realize microsoft sold only 5 consoles...

Demonjoe93

3 of which were bought by ForzaGears. :lol:

Just like kinect was gonna be a failure hahahahaha
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#40 XanderZane
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They will be the lead platform for sure and Microsoft games will be their # 1 priority if Sony or Nintendo doesn't follow suit. Once again genius move by Microsoft. Deal with itForzaGearsFace
Don't expect that to happen. Gamestop would probably stop selling XBox's if Microsoft did that and Gamestop sells almost 45% of their hardware. Gamestop, Gamefly, Best Buy, etc... all has a used game business that keeps them profitable. I doubt Microsoft who mess with that. You already have to pay an XBL fee just to play online. Used games aren't hurting Microsoft that much. All their big games sell pretty well.
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#41 Demonjoe93
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[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

[QUOTE="Twin-Blade"]

I like to see game developers getting what they deserve for their hard work so I'm fine with this. I suppose those that couldn't care less about the people who make their games if it saves them a few bucks might be concerned though.

ForzaGearsFace

Or maybe because not everyone can afford to buy all their games new but they're terrible people too right?

Please stop and put up some spiderman pics and try to be funny cause we don't really care what your opinion is, this is for real deal posters not wannabes no offense Deal with it

Really because I was just gonna say the same thing to you. You're an idiot. Enjoy your Kinectbox. :lol:

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#42 Demonjoe93
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[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

[QUOTE="AvnKnight"]

Yeah until they realize microsoft sold only 5 consoles...

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3 of which were bought by ForzaGears. :lol:

Just like kinect was gonna be a failure hahahahaha

Do you even play the Kinect?

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#43 NEWMAHAY
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this is for real deal posters not wannabes ForzaGearsFace
this made me laugh
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#44 xxxLUGZxxx
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Wonder how many jobs this will cost the nation? Guess it's okay to kill a market to "solve" a non-issue like used games.

If this goes through, not another Microsoft game system will enter my house.

edit: And if the game is used, the developers already got the money they were supposed to receive. If you don't believe that's fair, then if you have a used vehicle, you need to write out a check to your cars manufacturer.

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#45 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Another genius move? what was their first one? :|

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#46 freedomfreak
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Another genius move? what was their first one? :|

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Making people pay to play online.
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#47 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Another genius move? what was their first one? :|

freedomfreak

Making people pay to play online.

Or maybe it was the wonderful retard simulator AKA Kinect

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#48 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Another genius move? what was their first one? :|

seanmcloughlin

Making people pay to play online.

Or maybe it was the wonderful retard simulator AKA Kinect

Yeah,they're earning a lot from both despite being stupid.
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#49 ddlcpc
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this makes an easy decision for me not to buy next xbox....

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#50 Menalque2
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Confirming no Xbox for me next gen.

Deal with it.

LazySloth718

Same here. A super-enhanced DRM nightmare for a console? No thanks. I don't care how good the library is... and lets face it, the library will swiftly dry out if nobody actually buys the thing.

Plus while I am no fan of Gamestop, I don't buy this garbage that giving gamers a right to sell their games is bad for developers. At worst it might be bad for publishers, but it's logical that the revenue made selling used games can go towards buying additional shipments of brand new games.