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#1  Edited By leandrro
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there's no doubt that corridor games (in wich a big part of the best looking sections are nothing but a unreachable but gorgeous wallpaper in the background) like Killzone Shadowfall and Ryse despite of runing on inferior to 1080p resolutions or inferior to 60fps framerate, are a huge improvement over past gen consoles visuals

but how does those games compare to older good looking games

check the screenshots below, all taken from the multiplayer section of 2011's multiplatform games

even with open enviorements and the caos of multiplayer those games run on 1080p 60fps on a cheap PC (like 400 or 500 U$)

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Funny you post these because @tormentos said I didn't know what I was talking about when I said BF3 on my PC still was on par with current gen systems.

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I call BS on that claim. "Running on a PC that cost $400". No way would you get graphics like that on BF3 at 1080p running at 60FPS on a cheap ass PC. BF3 made high end PC's cry, let alone $400 PC's.

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#4  Edited By leandrro
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@slimdogmilionar said:

Funny you post these because @tormentos said I didn't know what I was talking about when I said BF3 on my PC still was on par with current gen systems.

seriously? bf3 60fps 1080p 64 players = kz sf 30fps 960x1080 6v6?

i think bf3 ultra settings is still above next gen

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#5 uninspiredcup
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PC was the test bed for next generation. The price jump was to test how smart console users are.

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#6  Edited By leandrro
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@clyde46 said:

I call BS on that claim. "Running on a PC that cost $400". No way would you get graphics like that on BF3 at 1080p running at 60FPS on a cheap ass PC. BF3 made high end PC's cry, let alone $400 PC's.

my PC does, i need the buggy and crashing mantle drivers to run bf4 on ultra 50fps

but bf3 ultra 60fps is no problem, you would need 700 back on 2011 but today my 400 dollars machine does the job

crysis 2 is much easier

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#7  Edited By faizan_faizan
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Bullshots.

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@leandrro said:

@clyde46 said:

I call BS on that claim. "Running on a PC that cost $400". No way would you get graphics like that on BF3 at 1080p running at 60FPS on a cheap ass PC. BF3 made high end PC's cry, let alone $400 PC's.

my PC does, i need the buggy and crashing mantle drivers to run bf4 on ultra 50fps

but bf3 ultra 60fps is no problem, you would need 700 back on 2011 but today my 400 dollars machine does the job

crysis 2 is much easier

Proof?

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#9  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@faizan_faizan said:

Bullshots.

Nope. Although Crysis 2 is a fairly horrible looking game. It's easy to take "hot spot" images i.e. designed to look as good as possible but when you actually play the game, this is one of the first things you are greeted with.

A game with inferior tech such as Halflife 2 pays more attention to the world detail.

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@faizan_faizan said:

Bullshots.

dat denial, those games actually look like that, if you had a decent pc you'd know

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#11  Edited By faizan_faizan
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@uninspiredcup said:

@faizan_faizan said:

Bullshots.

Nope. Although Crysis 2 is a fairly horrible looking game. It's easy to take "hot stop" images i.e. designed to look as good as possible but when you actually play the game, this is one of the first things you are greeted with.

Or this:

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#12  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@Krelian-co said:

@faizan_faizan said:

Bullshots.

dat denial, those games actually look like that, if you had a decent pc you'd know

Crysis 2 maxed out.

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#13  Edited By Kevlar101
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And yet, even by today's standards, Red Dead Redemption (released in early 2010) still looks great.

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#14 faizan_faizan
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@Kevlar101 said:

And yet, even by today's standards, Red Dead Redemption (released in early 2010) still looks great.

No it doesn't.

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#15  Edited By Kevlar101
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@faizan_faizan said:

@Kevlar101 said:

And yet, even by today's standards, Red Dead Redemption (released in early 2010) still looks great.

No it doesn't.

It sure doesn't look terrible, now does it?

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#16 uninspiredcup
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Probably look really great on the pc.

But, something or another.

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#17  Edited By lostrib
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@Kevlar101: it looked pretty awful when I played it, jaggies everywhere and blurry/muddy texturea

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#18 faizan_faizan
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@Kevlar101 said:

@faizan_faizan said:

@Kevlar101 said:

And yet, even by today's standards, Red Dead Redemption (released in early 2010) still looks great.

No it doesn't.

It sure doesn't look terrible, now does it?

Depends. From an aesthetic point, it's subjective. From a pure technological point, it just doesn't match up to today's games.

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#19  Edited By m3dude1
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terrible thread with massively down sampled press shots(which still dont hold a candle to ryse/killzone/infamous). and bf3 doesnt run at ultra settings 60 fps on a 400 pc. not even close

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#20  Edited By Kevlar101
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@lostrib said:

@Kevlar101: it looked pretty awful when I played it, jaggies everywhere and blurry/muddy texturea

Well considering that I own both a PS3 and an Xbox360, I have observed that multiplatform games on the PS3 tend to produce a shit-ton more jaggies than the same games on the X360. If you played on PS3, then you might have just been a victim of the PS3s odd graphical rendering. For me, I saw little to no jaggies on the Xbox360 version.

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#21  Edited By Kevlar101
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@faizan_faizan said:

@Kevlar101 said:

@faizan_faizan said:

@Kevlar101 said:

And yet, even by today's standards, Red Dead Redemption (released in early 2010) still looks great.

No it doesn't.

It sure doesn't look terrible, now does it?

Depends. From an aesthetic point, it's subjective. From a pure technological point, it just doesn't match up to today's games.

Well what about in 2010?

Do you think that in 2010, it was below-average, average, or above-average for it's time?

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#22 HaloinventedFPS
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PC was next gen since 2007

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#23 faizan_faizan
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@Kevlar101 said:

@faizan_faizan said:

@Kevlar101 said:

@faizan_faizan said:

@Kevlar101 said:

And yet, even by today's standards, Red Dead Redemption (released in early 2010) still looks great.

No it doesn't.

It sure doesn't look terrible, now does it?

Depends. From an aesthetic point, it's subjective. From a pure technological point, it just doesn't match up to today's games.

Well what about in 2010?

Do you think that in 2010, it was below-average, average, or above-average for it's time?

I'd put it somewhere between average and above-average. 2010 is when we talk about Metro: 2033 which was quite a looker back then. We also had S.T.A.L.K.E.R. which also looked good. Rockstar's animations are just untouched, I'll add. I've actually played Red Dead Redemption, its attention to detail is also amazing.

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@Kevlar101 said:

And yet, even by today's standards, Red Dead Redemption (released in early 2010) still looks great.

Rockstar games look like trash . These are bullshots . The game is not even 720p and it is blurry mess .

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Amazing bullshots you have right there.

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#26 happyduds77
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@Cloud_imperium: You're wrong it is 720p on Xbox 360. And IMO it looks incredible, they really nailed the lighting and the western look, and I think it looks better than Crysis 3 maxed out. But that's just an opinion.

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#27  Edited By Kevlar101
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@Cloud_imperium said:

@Kevlar101 said:

And yet, even by today's standards, Red Dead Redemption (released in early 2010) still looks great.

Rockstar games look like trash . These are bullshots . The game is not even 720p and it is blurry mess .

HAHAHA.

Man, I have played through RDR 3 - 4 times, I know from extensive experience that those screenshots are authentic.

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#28  Edited By faizan_faizan
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I always check DF for some direct-feed captures of games, they never disappoint.

If put directly beside the PC version of Mafia II, this pales in comparison.

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#29  Edited By PrincessGomez92
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Damn, Red Dead Redemption still looks pretty good.

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#30 lostrib
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@faizan_faizan said:

I always check DF for some direct-feed captures of games, they never disappoint.

If put directly beside the PC version of Mafia II, this pales in comparison.

definitely looks better on 360 than PS3

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#31 lostrib
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But, wow this thread is a pile of shit

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#33 lostrib
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@farrell2k said:

The only difference I see in last gen console games vs the new ones is bloom everywhere now. You just paid $400 for more bloom and maybe a few more fps.

perhaps get your eyes checked

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#34 Cloud_imperium
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@Kevlar101 said:

HAHAHA.

Man, I have played through RDR 3 - 4 times, I know from extensive experience that those screenshots are authentic.

First one is bullshot . Other 2 have outdated visuals .

@happyduds77 said:

@Cloud_imperium: You're wrong it is 720p on Xbox 360. And IMO it looks incredible, they really nailed the lighting and the western look, and I think it looks better than Crysis 3 maxed out. But that's just an opinion.

Crysis 3 .? lol .

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@leandrro said:

@slimdogmilionar said:

Funny you post these because @tormentos said I didn't know what I was talking about when I said BF3 on my PC still was on par with current gen systems.

seriously? bf3 60fps 1080p 64 players = kz sf 30fps 960x1080 6v6?

i think bf3 ultra settings is still above next gen

A $400 PC..hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Here we go again.... is more than $550 close to $600 with windows..lol

And don't expect to destroy consoles either.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/CyberpowerPC-Black-Gamer-Ultra-GUA250-Desktop-PC-with-AMD-Quad-Core-FX-4300-Processor-8GB-Memory-1TB-Hard-Drive-and-Windows-7-Home-Premium-Monitor/17811825

Here a every day $500 walmart PC it has a quad core FX 4300,8GB of ram and a Nvidia 610 card with 2GB of memory,now can i play BF3 on ultra on this and get 60 FPS on 1080p like you claim.?

@Cloud_imperium said:

Rockstar games look like trash . These are bullshots . The game is not even 720p and it is blurry mess .

Those are not bull shots,i own the game on 360 and is 720p and looks very good considering the scale and how open the game is,and how alive the environments are with animals.

Is not a blurry mess.

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#36  Edited By Mr-Powers
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Just another self conscious hermie (read 99% of core pc gamers) spreading lies and misinformation. OP has embarrassed himself in just about every thread he's made, no shame.

I will say I learned something from this thread, Red Dead held up well and Hermies are still bitter at Rockstar for not giving them a port. Sure, it doesn't look as good as GTA5 (more bitterness), but it held up for a game from half a gen ago. Can't wait for Rockstar's next console game.

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#37 lostrib
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wow, this thread is quickly becoming a collection of the shittiest trolls/posters on SW

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#39  Edited By lundy86_4
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@mr-powers said:

Just another self conscious hermie (read 99% of core pc gamers) spreading lies and misinformation. OP has embarrassed himself in just about every thread he's made, no shame.

I will say I learned something from this thread, Red Dead held up well and Hermies are still bitter at Rockstar for not giving them a port. Sure, it doesn't look as good as GTA5 (more bitterness), but it held up for a game from half a gen ago. Can't wait for Rockstar's next console game.

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#40  Edited By PrincessGomez92
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@lostrib said:

wow, this thread is quickly becoming a collection of the shittiest trolls/posters on SW

You know you love these guys.

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@Kevlar101 said:

And yet, even by today's standards, Red Dead Redemption (released in early 2010) still looks great.

the hell are you talking about, RDR was never a good looking game

not even a decently good looking game.

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#44  Edited By Indicud
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ITT insecurity

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#45  Edited By lostrib
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@farrell2k said:

@lostrib said:

wow, this thread is quickly becoming a collection of the shittiest trolls/posters on SW

Led by you, again...

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#46  Edited By jun_aka_pekto
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@tormentos said:

Is not a blurry mess.

Ahhh. But, you haven't upscaled those 720p screenshots to fit a 1080p TV yet. ☺

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#47  Edited By RyviusARC
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@uninspiredcup said:

@Krelian-co said:

@faizan_faizan said:

Bullshots.

dat denial, those games actually look like that, if you had a decent pc you'd know

Crysis 2 maxed out.

Looks like you need mods.

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#48  Edited By Kevlar101
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@princessgomez92 said:

Damn, Red Dead Redemption still looks pretty good.

Is that sarcasm ? I honestly can't tell .__.

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#50 lostrib
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@geniobastardo said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@Krelian-co said:

@faizan_faizan said:

Bullshots.

dat denial, those games actually look like that, if you had a decent pc you'd know

Crysis 2 maxed out.

I believe Crysis 2 looked better than that. ....

Well he's a lying troll, so don't expect much