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#52 Salt_The_Fries
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@faizan_faizan said:

Bullshots.

Actually BF3 can look a lot better than any of those screenshots showed.

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#54 mjorh
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Recall when Crysis came out in like 2007 ? THAT mind-blowing graphics ! that was the next-gen in that period , i wouldn't call "next-gen graphics" till is see sth like that for this period ...

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#55 leandrro
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@m3dude1 said:

terrible thread with massively down sampled press shots(which still dont hold a candle to ryse/killzone/infamous). and bf3 doesnt run at ultra settings 60 fps on a 400 pc. not even close

in truth, accourding to adandtech benchmarks my 120 dollars HD7870 can do 60fps on ultra 1920x1200

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/548?vs=518

back in 2011 you would need a 400 dollars gtx 570 for that

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#56  Edited By GTSaiyanjin2
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fight night champion a game from 2011, still a great looking game today

http://www.gamersyde.com/thqstream_fight_night_champion_xbox_360-oonesSfPfmQ24kpE_en.html

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#57  Edited By Krelian-co
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@geniobastardo said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@Krelian-co said:

@faizan_faizan said:

Bullshots.

dat denial, those games actually look like that, if you had a decent pc you'd know

Crysis 2 maxed out.

I believe Crysis 2 looked better than that. ....

just ignore him, he is a waste of forum space.

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#58 leandrro
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@m3dude1 said:

terrible thread with massively down sampled press shots(which still dont hold a candle to ryse/killzone/infamous). and bf3 doesnt run at ultra settings 60 fps on a 400 pc. not even close

in truth, accourding to adandtech benchmarks my 120 dollars HD7870 can do 60fps on ultra 1920x1200

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/548?vs=518

back in 2011 you would need a 400 dollars gtx 570 for that

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#59 leandrro
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@geniobastardo said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@Krelian-co said:

@faizan_faizan said:

Bullshots.

dat denial, those games actually look like that, if you had a decent pc you'd know

Crysis 2 maxed out.

I believe Crysis 2 looked better than that. ....

those pictures were made to show dx10 vs dx11, he picked dx10

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#60 Pray_to_me
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PC: The place to get the best performance on late X360 and iPad ports.

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#61 lostrib
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@Pray_to_me said:

PC: The place to get the best performance on late X360 and iPad ports.

pray_to_me: the place to get lame trolling

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#62 leandrro
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@speak_low:

120 dollars HD7870 benchmarks on bf3 1920x1200 ultra fxaa

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU12/398

my 400 dollars PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naO0daBZeRo&google_comment_id=z120hl1zaxzpijg5k04cfxr4unritf1iyic

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#63 lostrib
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@leandrro said:

@speak_low:

120 dollars HD7870 benchmarks on bf3 1920x1200 ultra fxaa

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU12/398

my 400 dollars PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naO0daBZeRo&google_comment_id=z120hl1zaxzpijg5k04cfxr4unritf1iyic

stop posting that piece of shit

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#64  Edited By m3dude1
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@leandrro said:

@m3dude1 said:

terrible thread with massively down sampled press shots(which still dont hold a candle to ryse/killzone/infamous). and bf3 doesnt run at ultra settings 60 fps on a 400 pc. not even close

in truth, accourding to adandtech benchmarks my 120 dollars HD7870 can do 60fps on ultra 1920x1200

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/548?vs=518

back in 2011 you would need a 400 dollars gtx 570 for that

are you daft? in b3 the ultra preset includes 4xaa, and in that benchmark you get 40 fps AVERAGE, meaning a minimum well below that. and FYI, anandtech uses the intro to the jet mission in bf3 single player which is one of the best performing parts of the game. you would get much worse than 40 fps playing a non metro map in multiplayer conquest. not even mentioning how bad your fps would be trying to play bf3 64 player on any cpu you put in a 400$ pc.


heres some actual 64p conquest benches done on a 680 at ultra settings

7870 and 60 fps at ultra?? NAAAAAHHHHHHH

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#65 I_can_haz
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Obvious bullshots are obvious. I've got BF3 on PC and it looks nothing like this...

@leandrro said:

Crysis 2 looks like shit next to games like KZSF, Ryse and ISS.

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#66 m3dude1
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^^^ truth

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#67 StrifeDelivery
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@speak_low said:

So many people exaggerating in this thread.

One group is lying about the $400 PC; another group is lying about no difference in visuals.

These people probably go around telling people they make $20,000 more than they actually do, add 2.5 inches to their height, and say they "sort of look like Brad Pitt" in the personals.

I don't think they are adding those inches to their height if you know what I mean.

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#68  Edited By miiiiv
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BF3 still looks pretty good but it required a beefy pc back in 2011. Is there anyone who has made a comparison between BF3 maxed out and BF4 on ps4?
And I'm not sure how BF3 stacks up to the next-gen's finest, I haven't got BF3 fresh in memory. I'm sure there are games that beats BF3 in some aspects but not many next-gen games have open environments together with the caos of 64 players multi player.

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#69 uninspiredcup
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@RyviusARC said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@Krelian-co said:

@faizan_faizan said:

Bullshots.

dat denial, those games actually look like that, if you had a decent pc you'd know

Crysis 2 maxed out.

Looks like you need mods.

Matey I could mod it but I just don't like the game enough to put the effort in.

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#70 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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We all know the machines could have been more powerful. Wait till E3--we'll se what Naughty Dog does with the ps4. And besides that, it is what the developers do with the hardware. Pc fanboys laugh at the ps4, yet an even lower spec console, in wiiu, has put out the best looking game to come out in quite a while in Mario Kart 8. It goes to show where the best art designers are. All I see on pc pics is "realistic" textures which are honestly just scaled down photographs which, unless perfect, are always going to look slightly off.

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#71 FoxbatAlpha
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I think by today's standard, Minecraft still holds up pretty good.

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#72  Edited By speedfog
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@lostrib said:

@Kevlar101: it looked pretty awful when I played it, jaggies everywhere and blurry/muddy texturea

What version did you play?

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#73 Mozelleple112
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RDR is extremely low res, blurry and jaggy. Doesn't really look good at all. Would have look pretty good on PC, 1080p with high AA

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#74  Edited By faizan_faizan
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@Salt_The_Fries said:

@faizan_faizan said:

Bullshots.

Actually BF3 can look a lot better than any of those screenshots showed.

I actually don't doubt that. It's just that anything by the developers themselves should not be trusted. If someone cranked up the resolution to 4K, plus added some MSAA, it would look quite better than most of the games released today. But it's that "VG247" logo.

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#75  Edited By NeoGen85
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I haven't been in System Wars for years. You guys are getting out of control. xD

I wish I had a 4K monitor! But I still have to say that most of the games I play on my PC look way better than it's console counterpart or even some of the current exclusives on the Xbox 360 or PS4. But Killzone and Ryse are good to look at.

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#76 leandrro
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@lostrib said:
@leandrro said:

@speak_low:

120 dollars HD7870 benchmarks on bf3 1920x1200 ultra fxaa

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU12/398

my 400 dollars PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naO0daBZeRo&google_comment_id=z120hl1zaxzpijg5k04cfxr4unritf1iyic

stop posting that piece of shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLzkyjit-GA

add +10fps while not recording

its an average 55 ultra 1080p 4x msaa

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#77  Edited By AM-Gamer
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@leandrro: BF3 looks like Shit compared to KZ Single player. Enjoy watchdog s on that $500 pc at 20 fps.

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#78  Edited By leandrro
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@lostrib said:
@leandrro said:

@speak_low:

120 dollars HD7870 benchmarks on bf3 1920x1200 ultra fxaa

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU12/398

my 400 dollars PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naO0daBZeRo&google_comment_id=z120hl1zaxzpijg5k04cfxr4unritf1iyic

stop posting that piece of shit

here is another BS for you

accourding to toms hardware benchmarks my 120 dollars hd7870 performs almost the same as the once 600 dollars gtx580

but i guess you also know better than those guys

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#79 lostrib
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@leandrro: why would that be surprising? A GTX 580 is two generations old

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#80  Edited By leandrro
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gtx 580 is THE card to play bf3, it was built with this card in mind, the recommended system for bf3 has a gtx 560 but it cant reach 1080p ultra 4x msaa 60fps

the card for this job is the gtx 580, and gtx 580 performs the same as my 120 dollars hd 7870 in bf3

my 70 dollars quad core cpu has 60% usage in bf3, the gpu is my bottleneck for bf3 and my 7870 delivers ultra 60fps (in most scenarios)

sure a 64 players on close quarters (designed for 24 on pc and 16 on consoles) will kill my performance, i also can't get constant 60fps on a rush match with 64players instead of 32

but its just my cheap 400 dollars PC, a better PC with a 7950 or a 7870xt costing some 100 dollars more you also be better

the point here is 400 or 500 pc running a 2011 game have better grphics than a next gen corridor exclusive

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#81 lostrib
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@leandrro: you have yet to prove it has better graphics considering you posted bullshit screenshots

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#82  Edited By Kevlar101
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@lostrib said:

@leandrro: you have yet to prove it has better graphics considering you posted bullshit screenshots

Hey, which version of RDR did you play?

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#83 lostrib
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@Kevlar101: PS3

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@leandrro said:

@lostrib said:
@leandrro said:

@speak_low:

120 dollars HD7870 benchmarks on bf3 1920x1200 ultra fxaa

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU12/398

my 400 dollars PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naO0daBZeRo&google_comment_id=z120hl1zaxzpijg5k04cfxr4unritf1iyic

stop posting that piece of shit

here is another BS for you

accourding to toms hardware benchmarks my 120 dollars hd7870 performs almost the same as the once 600 dollars gtx580

but i guess you also know better than those guys

I'm sure it also absolutely destroys the once $650 geforce 7950GX2, what is the point of spouting price values for what old cards retailed at?

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#85 Kevlar101
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@lostrib said:

@Kevlar101: PS3

Well that explains it. Look, I love my PS3, but I have observed that pretty much every single multiplatform game looks worse on PS3 than on X360.

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#86 PS4hasNOgames
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I hate topics like these because it's always up to the developer how they make their games look. At the end of the day someone has to draw it.

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#87  Edited By leandrro
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@lostrib said:

@leandrro: you have yet to prove it has better graphics considering you posted bullshit screenshots

Loading Video...

what about a hole bullshit video?

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#88  Edited By lostrib
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@leandrro said:
@lostrib said:

@leandrro: you have yet to prove it has better graphics considering you posted bullshit screenshots

Loading Video...

what about a hole bullshit video?

I didn't see any holes

Also, you're seriously going to use a 720p machinima video for graphics comparison?

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#89  Edited By m3dude1
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@leandrro said:

gtx 580 is THE card to play bf3, it was built with this card in mind, the recommended system for bf3 has a gtx 560 but it cant reach 1080p ultra 4x msaa 60fps

the card for this job is the gtx 580, and gtx 580 performs the same as my 120 dollars hd 7870 in bf3

my 70 dollars quad core cpu has 60% usage in bf3, the gpu is my bottleneck for bf3 and my 7870 delivers ultra 60fps (in most scenarios)

sure a 64 players on close quarters (designed for 24 on pc and 16 on consoles) will kill my performance, i also can't get constant 60fps on a rush match with 64players instead of 32

but its just my cheap 400 dollars PC, a better PC with a 7950 or a 7870xt costing some 100 dollars more you also be better

the point here is 400 or 500 pc running a 2011 game have better grphics than a next gen corridor exclusive

the point here is youve just proven with that video that you get nowhere near 60 fps in bf3 at ultra settings. the fps pinballs around randomly between 30 and 45 even on an empty ass, barely populated rush server. shit would be a total disaster on a 64p server with smoke and particle effects everywhere. lol @ you.btw recording a video only hurts your fps if you are cpu limited.

you even admitted you basically cant play bf3 w/ more player than ps360 LOLOLOL.

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#90  Edited By raging_user
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Comparable? easily

1920 x 1080 hyped as **** exclusive with next gen capabilities

vs

1680 x 1050 dx10 7th gen multiplat

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#91  Edited By m3dude1
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^^^ get your eyes checked ASAP

@lostrib real screenshots at settings a 7870 could handle in 64p conquest

http://i2.minus.com/iCPw6ZLyLjWdv.bmp

http://i2.minus.com/i4YP8R4O0R0X5.bmp

http://i3.minus.com/ibxpBPaO4Y0W2M.bmp

http://i5.minus.com/iC3FhrP8rHcu3.bmp

http://i3.minus.com/ibuyasZYDAd7bk.bmp

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#92  Edited By lostrib
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@m3dude1 said:

^^^ get your eyes checked ASAP

@lostrib real screenshots at settings a 7870 could handle in 64p conquest

http://i2.minus.com/iCPw6ZLyLjWdv.bmp

http://i2.minus.com/i4YP8R4O0R0X5.bmp

http://i3.minus.com/ibxpBPaO4Y0W2M.bmp

http://i5.minus.com/iC3FhrP8rHcu3.bmp

http://i3.minus.com/ibuyasZYDAd7bk.bmp

I'm well aware of BF3 and its capabilities

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#93 m3dude1
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killzone

http://abload.de/img/gameplayscreenshot201tss1q.png

http://abload.de/img/gameplayscreenshot201y8sw3.png

http://abload.de/img/killzoneshadowfall_20gtkwt.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZVdqiQCcAEVMIi.jpg:orig

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5549/10943037344_1f6326ba57_o.png

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3832/10958920784_3306c07349_o.png

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#94 clyde46
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Nice to see that $500 PC bullshit is still being peddled.

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#95 lostrib
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@clyde46 said:

Nice to see that $500 PC bullshit is still being peddled.

right until it burns his house down

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#96  Edited By raging_user
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@m3dude1:

care to point out areas of the KZ shot that defines its generation leap?

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#97  Edited By m3dude1
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the biggest differentiators are the materials and lighting system. the poly counts are naturally also astronomically higher

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#98 raging_user
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@m3dude1 said:

the biggest differentiators are the materials and lighting system. the poly counts are naturally also astronomically higher

looking at that KZ shot, it's doing a mediocre job on all 3 counts

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#99  Edited By m3dude1
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which shot? the purposely bad and highly compressed shot you posted? which still looks far better than the accompanying crysis 2 screen on all fronts.

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#100 raging_user
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Purposely bad? so is KZ only next gen in specific areas? this isn't a zoom in on some random texture

Compressed? left click then right click to view the png from neogaf

for the looks? i think my comparable point still stands