Next-gen consoles is a huge scam.

After reading the gamespot article,

What Xbox 720 and PlayStation 4 Will Take From PCs

I just realized that next-gen cosoles is huge scam perpetraded by M$ and Sony to do their usual 8-year cash grab.

So what Xbox 720 and PlayStation 4 Will Take From PCs? Well, mostly everything.

Next-gen consoles are basically low-range locked PC boxes ? Onhttp://www.newegg.com/ you can buy a custom built PC with equivalent specs for some 350$ right now. If we make it dedicated, the newegg PC will equal or even surpass next-gen consoles graphically-wise. So those specs will be totally outdated by the end of the year. We are talking here about next gen consoles just catching up with current gen PC graphics, but not going toe-to-toe with it, at least in the begining, like in the previous gen.

So why M$ and Sony make all those "researches" to build their own versions of locked PC boxes and don´t just grab equivalent prebuilt pcs for their needs ?

The answer is simple: they want to sell us outdated hardware themselves making a nice buck in the process. They are selling you a low-range PC in exchange of a promise of some exclusives. Exclusives that they sell you for additional 60 bucks.

That statement that they sell the consoles at a lost at launch is a big b*llsh*t. How you can sell those specs at a loss for 300-400$ when newegg is selling the equivalent even greater specs for the same price OS including ? What the hell ? Is newegg is selling their PCs at a lost too ? I don´t think so.

There is only one logical reason for this, they want to sell you low-range hardware themselves, otherwise they would quit making consoles long time ago and would use custom built pcs instead ?

Especially M$. They own Windows. Why to not make a console OS that would have a cross compatibility with PC ? Why they don´t do that ? In that case, they would sell their outdated hardware less. This is why. It´s simple as that.

Making just game is not enough anymore. They have to scam noob casual gamers as much as possible. Because big corporations need big money to keep existing. Everyone wants to create and hold the monopoly. M$ with Xbox, Sony with PS, and Nintendo, with WiiU. Nobody wants to resign to their 8-year hardware cash grab.

The gaming would have been so much easier if there was one single open gaming platform based on free OS fully compatible with PCs. So the M$, Nintendo and Sony would focus on making good games rather than on hardware wars. But that would imply an honest competition, prices wars, leaving the hardware manufacture in the hands of the third parties, industry standards, etc., that is, exactly what cash grabbers don´t want to deal with.

duhhh

they sell hardware at little cheaper cost to get you buy it then they put a bounty on every single game first and third party to make that money back and begin to make a profit.

I think you mean scam. But yeah, they are just rumours for now though. We will really know when E3 hits.

It would be a shame if they really are close to the rumored specs. Because they are sub standard in this day and age. 2 Years ago they would have been impressive.

I think you mean scam. But yeah, they are just rumours for now though. We will really know when E3 hits.

It would be a shame if they really are close to the rumored specs. Because they are sub standard in this day and age. 2 Years ago they would have been impressive.

Truth_Hurts_U

Thanks for the correction.

I wouldn't call them "low end". Secondly, Hermits need to get it through their heads that most console gamers do not want to play video games on a PC.

I wouldn't call them "low end". Secondly, Hermits need to get it through their heads that most console gamers do not want to play video games on a PC.

StormyJoe

Consoles are locked PC boxes, genius.

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I wouldn't call them "low end". Secondly, Hermits need to get it through their heads that most console gamers do not want to play video games on a PC.

jhonMalcovich

Consoles are locked PC boxes, genius.

Consoles don't require you to sit in some room off in the corner of the house like a "hermit", genius.

I don't want to use a KB/Mouse to play games, nor do I want to sit at a desk. I want to play games on my sofa in my living room. And before you give me some crap about "you can do that with a PC", that is not true - games designed for a PC have a UI that is set up for the user to be sitting a 18 inches from the screen, and require a KB/Mouse.

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[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

Consoles are locked PC boxes, genius.

StormyJoe

Consoles don't require you to sit in some room off in the corner of the house like a "hermit", genius.

I don't want to use a KB/Mouse to play games, nor do I want to sit at a desk. I want to play games on my sofa in my living room. And before you give me some crap about "you can do that with a PC", that is not true - games designed for a PC have a UI that is set up for the user to be sitting a 18 inches from the screen, and require a KB/Mouse.

Your problem is with OS then. Not PC. Because PC can have any console OS installed on it.

games designed for a PC have a UI that is set up for the user to be sitting a 18 inches fromfrom the screen, and require a KB/Mouse

StormyJoe

Ok. I see you have no idea what are you talking about. You don´t even get the point of my thread.

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

Consoles don't require you to sit in some room off in the corner of the house like a "hermit", genius.

I don't want to use a KB/Mouse to play games, nor do I want to sit at a desk. I want to play games on my sofa in my living room. And before you give me some crap about "you can do that with a PC", that is not true - games designed for a PC have a UI that is set up for the user to be sitting a 18 inches from the screen, and require a KB/Mouse.

jhonMalcovich

Your problem is with OS then. Not PC. Because PC can have any console OS installed on it.

games designed for a PC have a UI that is set up for the user to be sitting a 18 inches fromfrom the screen, and require a KB/Mouse

StormyJoe

Ok. I see you have no idea what are you talking about. You don´t even get the point of my thread.

The point of your thread is that the next gen consoles are not as powerful as low end PCs. Inferring, then, that we should all go out and spend the money on a $400-$600 PC and have a more powerful gaming platform. My point is: I don't care if I can get a gaming PC that is 10X more powerful than the next gen consoles for $100 - I don't want to play games on a fricken PC... and neither do most console gamers.

MS and Sony are in business to make money? What kind of madness is this?getyeryayasout

Because I am in business to not being scammed by those who are in business to make money.

The point of your thread is that the next gen consoles are not as powerful as low end PCs. Inferring, then, that we should all go out and spend the money on a $400-$600 PC and have a more powerful gaming platform. My point is: I don't care if I can get a gaming PC that is 10X more powerful than the next gen consoles for $100 - I don't want to play games on a fricken PC... and neither do most console gamers.

StormyJoe

My point is we should have one single open platform that could be customized to the needs of gamers. Enthusiastic PC gamers should not stay out of the boat because they don´t want to buy overpriced outdated hardware from M$, Sony or Nintendo. Right now PC gamers are punised because they want to have more power and customization with their platform.M$, Sony or Nintendo want to have it all. They want to sell us games and they want to sell us hardware to play those game, even so their hardware sucks balls.

Yeah, I don't think you really understand the definition of the word "scam." Trying to help out your twice-removed Nigerian Prince cousin would fit the bill but purchasing a game console confers a benefit received, so no, not a scam.

After reading the gamespot article,

What Xbox 720 and PlayStation 4 Will Take From PCs

I just realized that next-gen cosoles is huge scam perpetraded by M$ and Sony to do their usual 8-year cash grab.

So what Xbox 720 and PlayStation 4 Will Take From PCs? Well, mostly everything.

Next-gen cosnoles are basically low-range locked PC boxes ? Onhttp://www.newegg.com/ you can buy a custom built PC with equivalent specs for some 350$ right now. If we make it dedicated the newegg PC will equal or even surpass next-gen consoles graphically-wise. So those specs will totally outdated by the end of the year. We are talking here about next gen consoles just catching up with current gen PC graphics, but not going toe-to-toe with it, at least in the begining, like in the previous gen.

So why M$ and Sony make all those "researches" to build their own versions of locked PC boxes and don´t just grab equivalent prebuilt pcs for their needs ?

The answer is simple: they want to sell us outdated hardware themselves making a nice buck in the process. They are selling you a low-range PC in exchange of a promise of some exclusives. Exclusives that they sell you for additional 60 bucks.

That statement that they sell the consoles at a lost at launch is a big b*llsh*t. How you can sell those specs at a loss for 300-400$ when newegg is selling the equivalent even greater specs for the same price OS including ? What the hell ? Is newegg is selling their PCs at a lost too ? I don´t think so.

There is only one logical reason for this, they want to sell you low-range hardware themselves, otherwise they would quit making consoles long time ago and would use custom built pcs instead ?

Especially M$. They own Windows. Why to not make a console OS that would have a cross compatibility with PC ? Why they don´t do that ? In that case, they would sell their outdated hardware less. This is why. It´s simple as that.

Making just game is not enough anymore. They have to scam noob casual gamers as much as possible. Because big corporations need big money to keep existing. Everyone wants to create and hold the monopoly. M$ with Xbox, Sony with PS, and Nintendo, with WiiU. Nobody wants to resign to their 8-year hardware cash grab.

The gaming would have been so much easier if there was one single open gaming platform based on free OS fully compatible with PCs. So the M$, Nintendo and Sony would focus on making good games rather than on hardware wars. But that would imply an honest competition, prices wars, leaving the hardware manufacture in the hands of the third parties, industry standards, etc., that is, exactly what cash grabbers don´t want to deal with.

jhonMalcovich

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[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

I wouldn't call them "low end". Secondly, Hermits need to get it through their heads that most console gamers do not want to play video games on a PC.

StormyJoe

Consoles are locked PC boxes, genius.

Consoles don't require you to sit in some room off in the corner of the house like a "hermit", genius.

I don't want to use a KB/Mouse to play games, nor do I want to sit at a desk. I want to play games on my sofa in my living room. And before you give me some crap about "you can do that with a PC", that is not true - games designed for a PC have a UI that is set up for the user to be sitting a 18 inches from the screen, and require a KB/Mouse.

Whilst I understand and somewhat agree.... whats to stop me from having my PC set up to a HDTV and using a 360 controller on my PC? Which in fact is what I do.... now I do still sit at a desk, but if I wanted I could have this very same setup in my living room. But I prefer not to, because I want a room off, away from my family.... it's my man cave!

They get the rest of the house, I get my computer room. :P

The only difference is, I get to play my games @1080p between 45-60 fps, and you get to play sub-720p at 20-30fps w/ more aliasing, no DX10 or DX11 features or PhysX.

Your problem is with OS then. Not PC. Because PC can have any console OS installed on it.

jhonMalcovich

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

The point of your thread is that the next gen consoles are not as powerful as low end PCs. Inferring, then, that we should all go out and spend the money on a $400-$600 PC and have a more powerful gaming platform. My point is: I don't care if I can get a gaming PC that is 10X more powerful than the next gen consoles for $100 - I don't want to play games on a fricken PC... and neither do most console gamers.

jhonMalcovich

My point is we should have one single open platform that could be customized to the needs of gamers. Enthusiastic PC gamers should not stay out of the boat because they don´t want to buy overpriced outdated hardware from M$, Sony or Nintendo. Right now PC gamers are punised because they want to have more power and customization with their platform.M$, Sony or Nintendo want to have it all. They want to sell us games and they want to sell us hardware to play those game, even so their hardware sucks balls.

Another uneducated dropout makes a thread.AmazonTreeBoa

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

The point of your thread is that the next gen consoles are not as powerful as low end PCs. Inferring, then, that we should all go out and spend the money on a $400-$600 PC and have a more powerful gaming platform. My point is: I don't care if I can get a gaming PC that is 10X more powerful than the next gen consoles for $100 - I don't want to play games on a fricken PC... and neither do most console gamers.

jhonMalcovich

My point is we should have one single open platform that could be customized to the needs of gamers. Enthusiastic PC gamers should not stay out of the boat because they don´t want to buy overpriced outdated hardware from M$, Sony or Nintendo. Right now PC gamers are punised because they want to have more power and customization with their platform.M$, Sony or Nintendo want to have it all. They want to sell us games and they want to sell us hardware to play those game, even so their hardware sucks balls.

You obviously don't understand what competition is.

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"] The OS is part of the platform. That a console OS could be recompiled and run on a PC (given the source) does not change the fact that you'll still need Windows for the majority of commercial releases.[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

The point of your thread is that the next gen consoles are not as powerful as low end PCs. Inferring, then, that we should all go out and spend the money on a $400-$600 PC and have a more powerful gaming platform. My point is: I don't care if I can get a gaming PC that is 10X more powerful than the next gen consoles for $100 - I don't want to play games on a fricken PC... and neither do most console gamers.

lowe0

My point is we should have one single open platform that could be customized to the needs of gamers. Enthusiastic PC gamers should not stay out of the boat because they don´t want to buy overpriced outdated hardware from M$, Sony or Nintendo. Right now PC gamers are punised because they want to have more power and customization with their platform.M$, Sony or Nintendo want to have it all. They want to sell us games and they want to sell us hardware to play those game, even so their hardware sucks balls.

They don´t serve me to punish for not buying their hardware. So basically they still punish me. And I don´t buy their hardware becuase it´s not competitive in face of the hardware third party developers provide like Intel, Amd and Nvidia. They cater to the needs of people who doesn´t want to pay more than 300$, and they don´t cater to the needs of people who want to pay more but get better hardware.

That actually makes a good bit of sense now that I think about it, so I'm not sure why everyone is down the OP's throat. We'll end up paying what.. 300-500 for a "next-gen" console that's still a closed platform. Why is it closed? Because Sony and Microsoft want to sell consoles and make money. What's the benefit to the user? Nothing, really.

Each of those Sony and Microsoft platforms could be made to run off a PC as part of a custom operating system developed by those companies. Hell, you could even dual or triple-boot the same system to run Windows, Sony and Microsoft stuff theoretically. Plug in any controller you want via USB and there you go. And this would all be a cheaper and better option for the consumer.

For anyone who has no interest in PC's and just wants something plug and play, Sony/MS could offer something similar to the Steam box. The main issue though is PC is notoriously difficult to develop for since it's such an open platform with a wide variety of hardware. Maybe they could limit the hardware to SOME DEGREE to make it easy for developers, while still giving consumers the option to scale hardware to their own price range/affordability.

tbh, for me personally this stems from the fact that I play a LOT of games on all platforms, and nothing is easy. I need to buy three separate pieces of hardware even though one of those destroys the other two in computing power, I need to have different controllers, and if I want to play an xbox game in a room where I have my PS3, I have to lug the console around or buy another copy of the game.

None of this is designed for ease of us for a multi-platform consumer, it's all designed with big business bucks in mind. And as a consumer, the last thing on my mind is how much of a profit the big companies can make off me. I'd rather have an easy, modular gaming platform without having titles restricted from me since I don't own a specific piece of overpriced hardware.

You obviously don't understand what competition is.AdobeArtist

If you were to by a low end computer, like the article said, it would be out dated by the end of the year. hummer700

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[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

The point of your thread is that the next gen consoles are not as powerful as low end PCs. Inferring, then, that we should all go out and spend the money on a $400-$600 PC and have a more powerful gaming platform. My point is: I don't care if I can get a gaming PC that is 10X more powerful than the next gen consoles for $100 - I don't want to play games on a fricken PC... and neither do most console gamers.

AdobeArtist

My point is we should have one single open platform that could be customized to the needs of gamers. Enthusiastic PC gamers should not stay out of the boat because they don´t want to buy overpriced outdated hardware from M$, Sony or Nintendo. Right now PC gamers are punised because they want to have more power and customization with their platform.M$, Sony or Nintendo want to have it all. They want to sell us games and they want to sell us hardware to play those game, even so their hardware sucks balls.

You obviously don't understand what competition is.

This not about competion anymore. They are trying to build monopolies now. Next gen consoles will be practically locked PC boxes. So why to not create a common OS ? Becuase M$, Sony and Nintendo are too busy fighting each other in the effort to expell their competitors from the console hardware market. So how this benefits us, gamers ? It won´t benefit us at all. If some company will be thrown out of business, we will lose our belowed franchises, the winner will tighten up his control even further over the market: the prices will rise, dlcs practices will prosper, no used games policies will become a norm, less multi-platform ports for PCs, etc. It wont benefit us, gamers, at all.

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

The point of your thread is that the next gen consoles are not as powerful as low end PCs. Inferring, then, that we should all go out and spend the money on a $400-$600 PC and have a more powerful gaming platform. My point is: I don't care if I can get a gaming PC that is 10X more powerful than the next gen consoles for $100 - I don't want to play games on a fricken PC... and neither do most console gamers.

jhonMalcovich

My point is we should have one single open platform that could be customized to the needs of gamers. Enthusiastic PC gamers should not stay out of the boat because they don´t want to buy overpriced outdated hardware from M$, Sony or Nintendo. Right now PC gamers are punised because they want to have more power and customization with their platform.M$, Sony or Nintendo want to have it all. They want to sell us games and they want to sell us hardware to play those game, even so their hardware sucks balls.

BUt, you cannot have that - not without removing the "PC-ness" out of PC gaming; which is something most PC gaming fans do not want. For instance, just because I do not want to play FPS on a Kb/mouse doesn't mean that someone on a PC with a kb/mouse would have an advantage if we played online against eachother.

I don't want to have to install new hardware to play the latest games. I don't want to use a keyboard and mouse to play games, either. I want to take out a blu-ray/dvd, insert it into a preconfigured device, and sit on my sofa and play Halo4/Killzone/Black Ops2 over an online service and be on equal footing as my opponents.

Unless you are talking about a unified console platform, I am not interested. I doubt most console gamer would be, either.

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

The point of your thread is that the next gen consoles are not as powerful as low end PCs. Inferring, then, that we should all go out and spend the money on a $400-$600 PC and have a more powerful gaming platform. My point is: I don't care if I can get a gaming PC that is 10X more powerful than the next gen consoles for $100 - I don't want to play games on a fricken PC... and neither do most console gamers.

StormyJoe

My point is we should have one single open platform that could be customized to the needs of gamers. Enthusiastic PC gamers should not stay out of the boat because they don´t want to buy overpriced outdated hardware from M$, Sony or Nintendo. Right now PC gamers are punised because they want to have more power and customization with their platform.M$, Sony or Nintendo want to have it all. They want to sell us games and they want to sell us hardware to play those game, even so their hardware sucks balls.

BUt, you cannot have that - not without removing the "PC-ness" out of PC gaming; which is something most PC gaming fans do not want. For instance, just because I do not want to play FPS on a Kb/mouse doesn't mean that someone on a PC with a kb/mouse would have an advantage if we played online against eachother.

I don't want to have to install new hardware to play the latest games. I don't want to use a keyboard and mouse to play games, either. I want to take out a blu-ray/dvd, insert it into a preconfigured device, and sit on my sofa and play Halo4/Killzone/Black Ops2 over an online service and be on equal footing as my opponents.

Unless you are talking about a unified console platform, I am not interested. I doubt most console gamer would be, either.

Yes, we can. PC is open platform, it can be everything. Consoles are closed platform PCs that run Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo´s OS on them. Basically any third party hardware developer can create XBOX360 with top-edge PC components if M$ allows that. This is that simple. PC can be of console size and even smaller, can support all sort of controls, keyboard and mouse, joistik, even universal remote controller. It´s a just matter of software. If we had a single open operating system on all platforms then we could have all sorts of PCs: desktop pc, console pc, mini-pc, tablet pc.

Sony and M$ could release their version of consolesPCs, adn Razer could compete with them, too, for example, and when you buy M$ and Sony games they would say "Required that version of M$/Sony console PC for the optimal experience".

Someone's mommy didn't buy them a console, so he has to make fun of those who got one.

Wait, are you trying to tell me that:

Consoles are computers and not artifacts powered by magic?

MS and Sony don't even know what selling at a loss means?

That you can build a PC with equivalent specs for $400 when only a 7850 is worth almost half that?

Not only that but they supposedly do this exactly every 8 years?

BS.

never make a thread again

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[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

My point is we should have one single open platform that could be customized to the needs of gamers. Enthusiastic PC gamers should not stay out of the boat because they don´t want to buy overpriced outdated hardware from M$, Sony or Nintendo. Right now PC gamers are punised because they want to have more power and customization with their platform.M$, Sony or Nintendo want to have it all. They want to sell us games and they want to sell us hardware to play those game, even so their hardware sucks balls.

jhonMalcovich

BUt, you cannot have that - not without removing the "PC-ness" out of PC gaming; which is something most PC gaming fans do not want. For instance, just because I do not want to play FPS on a Kb/mouse doesn't mean that someone on a PC with a kb/mouse would have an advantage if we played online against eachother.

I don't want to have to install new hardware to play the latest games. I don't want to use a keyboard and mouse to play games, either. I want to take out a blu-ray/dvd, insert it into a preconfigured device, and sit on my sofa and play Halo4/Killzone/Black Ops2 over an online service and be on equal footing as my opponents.

Unless you are talking about a unified console platform, I am not interested. I doubt most console gamer would be, either.

Yes, we can. PC is open platform, it can be everything. Consoles are closed platform PCs that run Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo´s OS on them. Basically any third party hardware developer can create XBOX360 with top-edge PC components if M$ allows that. This is that simple. PC can be of console size and even smaller, can support all sort of controls, keyboard and mouse, joistik, even universal remote controller. It´s a just matter of software. If we had a single open operating system on all platforms then we could have all sorts of PCs: desktop pc, console pc, mini-pc, tablet pc.

Sony and M$ could release their version of consolesPCs, adn Razer could compete with them, too, for example, and when you buy M$ and Sony games they would say "Required that version of M$/Sony console PC for the optimal experience".

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

My point is we should have one single open platform that could be customized to the needs of gamers. Enthusiastic PC gamers should not stay out of the boat because they don´t want to buy overpriced outdated hardware from M$, Sony or Nintendo. Right now PC gamers are punised because they want to have more power and customization with their platform.M$, Sony or Nintendo want to have it all. They want to sell us games and they want to sell us hardware to play those game, even so their hardware sucks balls.

jhonMalcovich

BUt, you cannot have that - not without removing the "PC-ness" out of PC gaming; which is something most PC gaming fans do not want. For instance, just because I do not want to play FPS on a Kb/mouse doesn't mean that someone on a PC with a kb/mouse would have an advantage if we played online against eachother.

I don't want to have to install new hardware to play the latest games. I don't want to use a keyboard and mouse to play games, either. I want to take out a blu-ray/dvd, insert it into a preconfigured device, and sit on my sofa and play Halo4/Killzone/Black Ops2 over an online service and be on equal footing as my opponents.

Unless you are talking about a unified console platform, I am not interested. I doubt most console gamer would be, either.

Yes, we can. PC is open platform, it can be everything. Consoles are closed platform PCs that run Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo´s OS on them. Basically any third party hardware developer can create XBOX360 with top-edge PC components if M$ allows that. This is that simple. PC can be of console size and even smaller, can support all sort of controls, keyboard and mouse, joistik, even universal remote controller. It´s a just matter of software. If we had a single open operating system on all platforms then we could have all sorts of PCs: desktop pc, console pc, mini-pc, tablet pc.

Sony and M$ could release their version of consolesPCs, adn Razer could compete with them, too, for example, and when you buy M$ and Sony games they would say "Required that version of M$/Sony console PC for the optimal experience".

please stop with your stupid ideas

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

BUt, you cannot have that - not without removing the "PC-ness" out of PC gaming; which is something most PC gaming fans do not want. For instance, just because I do not want to play FPS on a Kb/mouse doesn't mean that someone on a PC with a kb/mouse would have an advantage if we played online against eachother.

I don't want to have to install new hardware to play the latest games. I don't want to use a keyboard and mouse to play games, either. I want to take out a blu-ray/dvd, insert it into a preconfigured device, and sit on my sofa and play Halo4/Killzone/Black Ops2 over an online service and be on equal footing as my opponents.

Unless you are talking about a unified console platform, I am not interested. I doubt most console gamer would be, either.

lostrib

Yes, we can. PC is open platform, it can be everything. Consoles are closed platform PCs that run Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo´s OS on them. Basically any third party hardware developer can create XBOX360 with top-edge PC components if M$ allows that. This is that simple. PC can be of console size and even smaller, can support all sort of controls, keyboard and mouse, joistik, even universal remote controller. It´s a just matter of software. If we had a single open operating system on all platforms then we could have all sorts of PCs: desktop pc, console pc, mini-pc, tablet pc.

Sony and M$ could release their version of consolesPCs, adn Razer could compete with them, too, for example, and when you buy M$ and Sony games they would say "Required that version of M$/Sony console PC for the optimal experience".

please stop with your stupid ideas

Gabe Newell has the same ideas as I do. I guess he´s stupid too.

never make a thread again

wis3boi

Oh, I am sorry. Did I bring up a topic too complex to grasp for your little brain ?

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

never make a thread again

jhonMalcovich

Get the f*ck out of my thread then.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

Yes, we can. PC is open platform, it can be everything. Consoles are closed platform PCs that run Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo´s OS on them. Basically any third party hardware developer can create XBOX360 with top-edge PC components if M$ allows that. This is that simple. PC can be of console size and even smaller, can support all sort of controls, keyboard and mouse, joistik, even universal remote controller. It´s a just matter of software. If we had a single open operating system on all platforms then we could have all sorts of PCs: desktop pc, console pc, mini-pc, tablet pc.

Sony and M$ could release their version of consolesPCs, adn Razer could compete with them, too, for example, and when you buy M$ and Sony games they would say "Required that version of M$/Sony console PC for the optimal experience".

jhonMalcovich

please stop with your stupid ideas

Gabe Newell has the same ideas as I do. I guess he´s stupid too.

Source?

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

please stop with your stupid ideas

lostrib

Gabe Newell has the same ideas as I do. I guess he´s stupid too.

Source?

The fact that Valve is developing linux gaming OS and Steambox isn´t enough ?

Life is a scam. All it is is corporations spamming you with ads all the time to get your hard earned cash.

Life is a scam. All it is is corporations spamming you with ads all the time to get your hard earned cash.

BPoole96

Life's a b*tch and then we die.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Life is a scam. All it is is corporations spamming you with ads all the time to get your hard earned cash.

Lucianu

Life's a b*tch and then we die.

Amen

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Life is a scam. All it is is corporations spamming you with ads all the time to get your hard earned cash.

BPoole96

Life's a b*tch and then we die.

Amen

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

Gabe Newell has the same ideas as I do. I guess he´s stupid too.

jhonMalcovich

Source?

The fact that Valve is developing linux gaming OS and Steambox isn´t enough ?

So no source then?

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

Source?

lostrib

The fact that Valve is developing linux gaming OS and Steambox isn´t enough ?

So no source then?

http://www.zdnet.com/wheres-valve-going-with-linux-7000003778/

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/07/steams-newell-windows-8-catastrophe-driving-valve-to-embrace-linux/

http://www.gamespot.com/news/gabe-newell-discusses-valves-steam-box-intentions-6402156

You can google yourself you know.