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#101 KiZZo1
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I hope these rumors are fake. Next gen will be very boring if MS destroys the last remnants of the lem faction ...

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#102 sukraj
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Fake

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#103 shawn30
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Naahh until MS makes an official unveiling of the console we wont know whether or not its going to be a disappointment !!

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Exacly. Rumors, Rumors, Rumors. Will wait for the official unveiling. Until then.... Cows Gonna Ciw
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#104 cainetao11
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What is Microsoft trying to accomplish with this type of model, it doesnt make sense at all. Internet connection isnt a staple alover the world and while the casual audience have proved to be a large market, the hardcore audience are still the ones holding this industry together, its the hardcore audience that pulls the casual audiences into gaming. I just hope the team behind the NextBox have a single clue what the Ferk they are doing and retrack and change all these BS. Perhaps it was a good thing the PS4 was shown early

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your own points are in contradiction, I don't know one "hardcore" gamer who doesn't have an internet connection. So always connected isn't going to be a problem since as you state, they hold this industry together.
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#105 tenaka2
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I hope these rumors are fake. Next gen will be very boring if MS destroys the last remnants of the lem faction ...

KiZZo1

There will always be lems, they will tell us how good kinect is.

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#106 wazzap76
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[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

I hope these rumors are fake. Next gen will be very boring if MS destroys the last remnants of the lem faction ...

tenaka2

There will always be lems, they will tell us how good kinect is.

 

I have a hardcore gaming friend who raves about how great it is. He brags about being able to talk to his xbox and have it interact with games. He seems to think it's only possible with a kinect... For some reason he's so blind to it he doesn't realize any god damn mic can do the same damn thing. Fanboys. I really don't get it..

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#107 trollhunter2
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

Naahh until MS makes an official unveiling of the console we wont know whether or not its going to be a disappointment !!

shawn30

Exacly. Rumors, Rumors, Rumors. Will wait for the official unveiling. Until then.... Cows Gonna Ciw

vgleaks hardware rumors were always spot on. They werent wrong about the ps4 sepcs either, and even hinted sony upgrade from 4gb gddr5 to 8gb gddr5 ram

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#108 faizan_faizan
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Next Gue1 thread confirmed to be a disappointment.Duckyindiana
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#109 dogfather76
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If the XBOX blocks used games, publishers are going to love them. I can see this actually leading to more exclusives on the platform as a result. It will certainly change the dynamic of the industry if one console blocks games and the other doesn't.

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#110 SecretPolice
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If the XBOX blocks used games, publishers are going to love them. I can see this actually leading to more exclusives on the platform as a result. It will certainly change the dynamic of the industry if one console blocks games and the other doesn't.

dogfather76

Careful there "wise" guy, SW in no place for that kinda logic. :P

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#111 tormentos
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If the XBOX blocks used games, publishers are going to love them. I can see this actually leading to more exclusives on the platform as a result. It will certainly change the dynamic of the industry if one console blocks games and the other doesn't.

dogfather76
Wow will publishers put more games exclusive on your console when millions are not buying it because they like to sell their games.? Yeah but the general public as gamespot store proof will hate them,lastly the ultimate word is on the hand of the consumer the same go's for sony if they block games. Never under estimate consumers,as the wii proved.. Gamespot is filled with used games,which do show people love to trade in games is the reason gamespot make billions is not a thing of 2 or 3 customers,we are talking here about millions of people who sell their games,and could be pretty mad if they found out they can't sell what they legally bough..
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#112 PAL360
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Sounds like a big disappointment, indeed! Still just rumors, we should wait for something official.

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#113 tormentos
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[QUOTE="dogfather76"]

If the XBOX blocks used games, publishers are going to love them. I can see this actually leading to more exclusives on the platform as a result. It will certainly change the dynamic of the industry if one console blocks games and the other doesn't.

SecretPolice

Careful there "wise" guy, SW in no place for that kinda logic. :P

Is king of a silly logic because millions of people sell their games to gamestop,if those people see this console that block games,and this other that doesn't which one do you think they will go for.? If the console doesn't allow used games,gamestop can't take those games in trade and that means millions upon millions of angry costumers..
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#114 tormentos
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Sounds like a big disappointment, indeed! Still just rumors, we should wait for something official.

PAL360
Is a rumor that also touch sony from what i read,and that will surely get sony and MS in trouble on EU were you have the right to sell your games even PC ones..
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#115 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="dogfather76"]

If the XBOX blocks used games, publishers are going to love them. I can see this actually leading to more exclusives on the platform as a result. It will certainly change the dynamic of the industry if one console blocks games and the other doesn't.

tormentos

Careful there "wise" guy, SW in no place for that kinda logic. :P

Is king of a silly logic because millions of people sell their games to gamestop,if those people see this console that block games,and this other that doesn't which one do you think they will go for.? If the console doesn't allow used games,gamestop can't take those games in trade and that means millions upon millions of angry costumers..

Before I go on, just because I find it logical that MS may go this route doesn't mean I'm approving but the fact is, in all my years of gaming, I can count the number of used games I bought on one hand and sill have fingers left over. :o

K, that outta the way, Sony will let the pubs/devs block on PS4 and should Sony not let them, I sure hope Sony has plenty of exclusives cuz if MS blocks them and Sony doesn't, exclusives may be all you have on the system. :shock: Just sayin.

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#117 Sagem28
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Greetings Lems !

Just here to remind you all you can still save yourselves from the inevitable disappointment and butthurt that M$ will bestow upon you.
All you need to do is accept the word of Our Lord Kaz and let him into your heart.

We Want You, To Be A Cow !

Thank You.

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#118 dogfather76
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="dogfather76"]

If the XBOX blocks used games, publishers are going to love them. I can see this actually leading to more exclusives on the platform as a result. It will certainly change the dynamic of the industry if one console blocks games and the other doesn't.

tormentos

Careful there "wise" guy, SW in no place for that kinda logic. :P

Is king of a silly logic because millions of people sell their games to gamestop,if those people see this console that block games,and this other that doesn't which one do you think they will go for.? If the console doesn't allow used games,gamestop can't take those games in trade and that means millions upon millions of angry costumers..

I don't think it's as simple as that. For the sake of argument, I think that some people will be turned off by the XBOX since it will keep them from playing used games. At the same time, I think that some people will be more attracted to the XBOX if it gains exclusives from companies that don't want Gamestop/Gamefly taking what they view as their profits.

Another option, and one that I think is very likely to happen, is that more games (on PS4 and XBOX) move to charging activation fees to play their used games. This is already being done to access multiplayer (Far Cry 3, Resistance BS, etc). I think that what could very likely happen is that ALL games start charging these additional fees to access all content (even single player). This will the publishers offset the money that they lose from the rental/used market. Like it or not, I think this is the way things are headed.

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#119 kuraimen
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I hope these rumors are fake. Next gen will be very boring if MS destroys the last remnants of the lem faction ...

KiZZo1
Lems will defend M$ no matter what. In fact it will make it more lulz worthy
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#120 emgesp
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Looks like they are going for a "Big Brother" approach come next-gen. Always connected and Kinect must always be plugged in so they can spy on us. 

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#121 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] Is king of a silly logic because millions of people sell their games to gamestop,if those people see this console that block games,and this other that doesn't which one do you think they will go for.? If the console doesn't allow used games,gamestop can't take those games in trade and that means millions upon millions of angry costumers..sts106mat

Before I go on, just because I find it logical that MS may go this route doesn't mean I'm approving but the fact is, in all my years of gaming, I can count the number of used games I bought on one hand and sill have fingers left over. :o

K, that outta the way, Sony will let the pubs/devs block on PS4 and should Sony not let them, I sure hope Sony has plenty of exclusives cuz if MS blocks them and Sony doesn't, exclusives may be all you have on the system. :shock: Just sayin.

Tormento is in training for the new gen war already.. Hermits and lems better watch out, cause he's in it for the long haul

tehe, tbh, I was hoping the ending was altered and he came stumbling back down the stairs and the crowed jumped his a$$ and beat him in the street. :lol:

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#122 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

I hope these rumors are fake. Next gen will be very boring if MS destroys the last remnants of the lem faction ...

kuraimen
Lems will defend M$ no matter what. In fact it will make it more lulz worthy

Poor cow.
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#123 emgesp
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I didn't realize M$ announced the NextBox already.RyanShazam
Dude, you're killing me with that GIF, That girl is beyond hot. She is like Jessica Rabbit IRL.
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#124 PAL360
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Sounds like a big disappointment, indeed! Still just rumors, we should wait for something official.

tormentos

Is a rumor that also touch sony from what i read,and that will surely get sony and MS in trouble on EU were you have the right to sell your games even PC ones..

I like to be able to get second hand games, but out of all those rumors, that's the one that worries the least. At least it would be good for devs.

Mandatory online and kinect, on the other hand, would be reasons enough for me to not get the system.

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#125 I_can_haz
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Greetings Lems !

Just here to remind you all you can still save yourselves from the inevitable disappointment and butthurt that M$ will bestow upon you.
All you need to do is accept the word of Our Lord Kaz and let him into your heart.

We Want You, To Be A Cow !

Thank You.

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#126 CanYouDiglt
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[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

I hope these rumors are fake. Next gen will be very boring if MS destroys the last remnants of the lem faction ...

kuraimen
Lems will defend M$ no matter what. In fact it will make it more lulz worthy

No one has to defend anything since Microsoft has not said one word about the next console. It is more a case the Sony event was nothing special so Sony fanboys like yourself are doing preemptive damage control. I mean it is pretty bad when the thing Sony fanboys are going nuts over when it comes to the next Playstation console is ram of all things.
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#127 Heil68
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

I hope these rumors are fake. Next gen will be very boring if MS destroys the last remnants of the lem faction ...

CanYouDiglt
Lems will defend M$ no matter what. In fact it will make it more lulz worthy

No one has to defend anything since Microsoft has not said one word about the next console. It is more a case the Sony event was nothing special so Sony fanboys like yourself are doing preemptive damage control. I mean it is pretty bad when the thing Sony fanboys are going nuts over when it comes to the next Playstation console is ram of all things.

Its not just "ram" its 8gb of glorious high-speed GDDR5.
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#128 Silenthps
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What's the point in even having a blu ray drive if all games are run through the HDD? Might as well save cost and use dvds
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#129 deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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I'm not worried but if it is crap I just won't get it.  Easy.

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#130 Allthishate
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

I hope these rumors are fake. Next gen will be very boring if MS destroys the last remnants of the lem faction ...

Michael0134567
Lems will defend M$ no matter what. In fact it will make it more lulz worthy

Poor cow.

dont understand why people find her hot. when ever i see her i think shes under age. she looks 15.
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#131 donalbane
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Doesnt seem much different from the PS4, besides the kinect part

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You're forgetting PS4 has a Kinect-clone now also.
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#132 donalbane
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Looks like they are going for a "Big Brother" approach come next-gen. Always connected and Kinect must always be plugged in so they can spy on us. 

emgesp
[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

I hope these rumors are fake. Next gen will be very boring if MS destroys the last remnants of the lem faction ...

There will always be lems, they will tell us how good kinect is.

You'll encounter the same phenomenon with the mandatory PS4 camera thing and the Sony crowd.
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#133 Lucianu
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Notable lines: 


  • "Always on, always connected"
  • Kinect will come with every console and it must be plugged in
  • All games will have to be installed to HDD, no streaming from optical disk
  • It has a blu-ray drive, but it won't be used when playing games

Gue1

Ahhh, f*ck. What's the point in complaining anyway? Consoles this generation were barely traditional (pop in the disk and play, my ass), and were more like gimped PCs. If this rumour is true, i'm not surprised. 

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#134 lhughey
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"Always on, Always connected" doesn't mean being online is a 100% requirement. It may be like Sony's system where you can choose to leave your console online all of the time and have updates and stuff pushed to it.

The requirement of kinect scares me. I wonder if they'll make that the primary way to interact with their OS. That would be crap.

Wasdie
Nah, they wouldn't do that. But its good from a developers standpoint because they can be assured that more of the installed base will use it. I'm really confused why so many people are scared of new features. I wasn't trippin' when my iphone came with Siri. I think its a gimmick, but its fun to use every once in a while. But that doesn't stop me from using my screen to move the UI. I look a Kinect much like Siri. Its fun to use every now and then, but I'll use a controller for 95% of things. M$ understand this. There are too many instances where using Kinect doesn't work (small room, very loud room, dark room). It will remain an optional feature, its just a standard option now ;) And I agree with you about the always on, always connected. Its nothing to be afraid of either. My PC is always on and always connected to the internet. That means I can wake up my monitor and use it at will. And if I decide to unplug it from the web, I can still use the programs that are on it (except browser, etc).
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#135 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="Allthishate"][QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Lems will defend M$ no matter what. In fact it will make it more lulz worthy

Poor cow.

dont understand why people find her hot. when ever i see her i think shes under age. she looks 15.

Lol k.
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#136 EPaul
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this can't be true

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#137 youngmurk911
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lems greatest nightmare, being forced to install games and be always online to play them. If Kinect breaks the console will be rendered useless....    :)

Gue1
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#138 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Lems will defend M$ no matter what. In fact it will make it more lulz worthy

No one has to defend anything since Microsoft has not said one word about the next console. It is more a case the Sony event was nothing special so Sony fanboys like yourself are doing preemptive damage control. I mean it is pretty bad when the thing Sony fanboys are going nuts over when it comes to the next Playstation console is ram of all things.

Its not just "ram" its 8gb of glorious high-speed GDDR5.

It seems lems haven't yet coped with the magnitude of this. OMG E3 will destroy their feeble minds.
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#139 tormentos
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Careful there "wise" guy, SW in no place for that kinda logic. :P

SecretPolice

Is king of a silly logic because millions of people sell their games to gamestop,if those people see this console that block games,and this other that doesn't which one do you think they will go for.? If the console doesn't allow used games,gamestop can't take those games in trade and that means millions upon millions of angry costumers..

Before I go on, just because I find it logical that MS may go this route doesn't mean I'm approving but the fact is, in all my years of gaming, I can count the number of used games I bought on one hand and sill have fingers left over. :o

K, that outta the way, Sony will let the pubs/devs block on PS4 and should Sony not let them, I sure hope Sony has plenty of exclusives cuz if MS blocks them and Sony doesn't, exclusives may be all you have on the system. :shock: Just sayin.

Yeah you... this is about other millions of people who sell more games than you.. Do you actually think that developer will actually sacrifice million of dollars on PS4 version of games juts because MS will block used games.? Blocking used games in nothing warranty a sell of a new one,it just mean people will have less money to buy new games,sory but i hate gamestop and think used games rob developers and money,but gamestop is right,most of game gamestop does is give you credit which you can use how you like most people reinvest in new games. So no only sales will drop because those searching to save money and pay $20 to $35 less in for a new game will not have an option,but also they would fall if they are available in just 1 consoles,COD on xbox alone will loss Activision a truck load of money to much to even think about such a move. We may see how this go when gamestop start making campaign for games that are not block over games are block..
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#140 Puckhog04
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As long as a standard controller is sold with the Console, I really couldn't care less if Kinect is with it. Regardless, I'll be waiting like a year to pick it up anyway. I'll own one eventually (I always own all the Consoles...every gen...) but I won't get it at launch like I am with PS4 and did with Wii U.

That being said, you could at least wait for an annoucement. This stuff isn't always true.

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#141 tormentos
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Careful there "wise" guy, SW in no place for that kinda logic. :P

dogfather76

Is king of a silly logic because millions of people sell their games to gamestop,if those people see this console that block games,and this other that doesn't which one do you think they will go for.? If the console doesn't allow used games,gamestop can't take those games in trade and that means millions upon millions of angry costumers..

I don't think it's as simple as that. For the sake of argument, I think that some people will be turned off by the XBOX since it will keep them from playing used games. At the same time, I think that some people will be more attracted to the XBOX if it gains exclusives from companies that don't want Gamestop/Gamefly taking what they view as their profits.

Another option, and one that I think is very likely to happen, is that more games (on PS4 and XBOX) move to charging activation fees to play their used games. This is already being done to access multiplayer (Far Cry 3, Resistance BS, etc). I think that what could very likely happen is that ALL games start charging these additional fees to access all content (even single player). This will the publishers offset the money that they lose from the rental/used market. Like it or not, I think this is the way things are headed.

Mark this words no developer will risk make a game only for the 720 because it blocks used games..
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#142 mems_1224
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Next Gue1 thread confirmed to be a disappointment.Duckyindiana
all his posts are.
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#143 ReadingRainbow4
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Disappointment to who? The lonely nerds who post nothing but hate around here? I'm sure MS won't care.percech

If that's true, the conscious consumer should care. As well as any gamer worth his salt.

Who gives a damn what MS thinks?

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#144 BuldozerX
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This has to happen. Isnt MS working with EA now? Sim City Xbox edition.

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#145 BuldozerX
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http://www.edge-online.com/news/new-always-on-always-connected-durango-leak-is-real/

Edge: Microsoft source confirms rumours are true.

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http://www.edge-online.com/news/new-always-on-always-connected-durango-leak-is-real/

Edge: Microsoft source confirms rumours are true.

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Oh god...

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#147 BuldozerX
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To be honest, Microsoft has nothing to fear. You gamers cave in so fast, its almost embarrassing. Everyone knew Sim City was going to be a screw up the second they announced the always online DRM. Gamers expressed their anger long before the game was released, yet they pre-ordered it. When the game finally was released all they got was a useless copy they couldnt return. The same thing will happen with the Xbox. You hate it, yet you buy it. Unlike many of you, I wont purchase.

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#148 BuldozerX
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I forgot to mention that Sim City has sold more than one million copies within a few weeks. Good going.

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#149 mitu123
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To be honest, Microsoft has nothing to fear. You gamers cave in so fast, its almost embarrassing. Everyone knew Sim City was going to be a screw up the second they announced the always online DRM. Gamers expressed their anger long before the game was released, yet they pre-ordered it. When the game finally was released all they got was a useless copy they couldnt return. The same thing will happen with the Xbox. You hate it, yet you buy it. Unlike many of you, I wont purchase.

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I'm not like those gamers though! For example I never bought Sim City after hearing about online DRM.

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#150 BuldozerX
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[QUOTE="BuldozerX"]

To be honest, Microsoft has nothing to fear. You gamers cave in so fast, its almost embarrassing. Everyone knew Sim City was going to be a screw up the second they announced the always online DRM. Gamers expressed their anger long before the game was released, yet they pre-ordered it. When the game finally was released all they got was a useless copy they couldnt return. The same thing will happen with the Xbox. You hate it, yet you buy it. Unlike many of you, I wont purchase.

mitu123

I'm not like those gamers though! For example I never bought Sim City after hearing about online DRM.

Unfortunately you and me doesnt count to much along with the million people that bought the game within two weeks.