NFS Shift AAA at IGN. Better than Forza and GT?

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for Couth_
Couth_

10369

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#1 Couth_
Member since 2008 • 10369 Posts

http://pc.ign.com/objects/143/14319192.html

I'm purchasing for sure. But I still want to see some more hardcore reviewers to get the final verdict on the physics. But in any case this is a serious player in the GT vs Forza game

+ "There are so many things done right in terms of design that this feels like the freshest take on the "simulation" racing genre in many, many years."
+"Slightly Mad has created an extraordinarily good cockpit view for the game, one that makes you feel like you're actually in the seat of a horsepower-bleeding supercar."
+"The brilliant part here, and this goes back to what I had mentioned about Slightly Mad doing a fantastic job of deciding which elements of the game to make more realistic"
+"So the driving mechanics and sense of speed are fantastic, but let me now get into the sound because it is awesome."
+"The driving experience is so close to the real thing that I can't bring myself to nit-picking"
+Great car selection

- Not a huge car selection
- Drifting
-Career mode is pretty linear
- Perhaps too easy to earn money

Closing Comments
"Need for Speed Shift is a glorious return to greatness (and even excellence) for EA's seminal racing franchise. Slightly Mad Studios has delivered a driving experience that, while not completely accurate in terms of its simulation aspects, is practically dead-on in terms of what it's like to race around some of the world's best racing circuits. The career mode could (and should) have been a little better, but the act of driving is basically phenomenal."

Avatar image for usule
usule

1734

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#2 usule
Member since 2003 • 1734 Posts

you probably meant the dirt / grid / PGR genre... Forza and GT are sims.

Avatar image for Couth_
Couth_

10369

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#3 Couth_
Member since 2008 • 10369 Posts

you probably meant the dirt / grid / PGR genre... Forza and GT are sims.

usule

Forza and GT are accused of the same "arcadey-ness" as Shift when compared to PC sims :?..

NFS Shift, Forza and GT are in one genre. rFactor, LFS, Race, and GTR are another. and iRacing is in a class of its own

Avatar image for Episode_Eve
Episode_Eve

16986

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#4 Episode_Eve
Member since 2004 • 16986 Posts
It's official, Shift looks and sounds awesome. Any opinions from the car/ simulation enthusiast crowd?
Avatar image for usule
usule

1734

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#5 usule
Member since 2003 • 1734 Posts
[QUOTE="usule"]

you probably meant the dirt / grid / PGR genre... Forza and GT are sims.

Couth_
Forza and GT are accused of the same "arcadey-ness" as Shift when it comes to PC sims :?

I would beg to differ. Heck, let's be arrogant, I know that is WRONG! ;)
Avatar image for Couth_
Couth_

10369

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#6 Couth_
Member since 2008 • 10369 Posts
[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="usule"]

you probably meant the dirt / grid / PGR genre... Forza and GT are sims.

usule
Forza and GT are accused of the same "arcadey-ness" as Shift when it comes to PC sims :?

I would beg to differ. Heck, let's be arrogant, I know that is WRONG! ;)

Like I said. GT Forza and Shift are in the same class. LFS, rfactor, Race and GTR are in another.. And iracing is the most actual simulation
Avatar image for Couth_
Couth_

10369

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#7 Couth_
Member since 2008 • 10369 Posts

It's official, Shift looks and sounds awesome. Any opinions from the car/ simulation enthusiast crowd?Episode_Eve
I've only seen a few comments from people who have played it. One guy here noted that the cars physics on the proffesional mode (which uses a different phys. engine than the other modes) were almost too difficult to keep on the track without assists, and it was much easier with a wheel.

The key things to note (which previews haven't noted) is that Shift has two different physics engines (regular and professional), and that shift is designed to be very easy with a controller (on normal). But switch to professional physics and this is a whole different beast

Avatar image for usule
usule

1734

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#8 usule
Member since 2003 • 1734 Posts
[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="usule"][QUOTE="Couth_"] Forza and GT are accused of the same "arcadey-ness" as Shift when it comes to PC sims :?

I would beg to differ. Heck, let's be arrogant, I know that is WRONG! ;)

Like I said. GT Forza and Shift are in the same class. LFS, rfactor, Race and GTR are in another.. And iracing is the most actual simulation

I will be fair with you, I have not played I racing, wont talk about it, However putting Shift with GT and Forza, and stating Race and GTR are more sim than forza or GT is WRONG! Played them. It is also intriguing that for some miraculous reasons, your "unbiased" ladder has only PC games while going up your "sim" scale.
Avatar image for Couth_
Couth_

10369

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#9 Couth_
Member since 2008 • 10369 Posts
[QUOTE="usule"][QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="usule"] I would beg to differ. Heck, let's be arrogant, I know that is WRONG! ;)

Like I said. GT Forza and Shift are in the same class. LFS, rfactor, Race and GTR are in another.. And iracing is the most actual simulation

I will be fair with you, I have not played I racing, wont talk about it, However putting Shift with GT and Forza, and stating Race and GTR are more sim than forza or GT is WRONG! Played them. It is also intriguing that for some miraculous reasons, your "unbiased" ladder has only PC games while going up your "sim" scale.

Well I could have listed games like Race Pro, Ferrari Challenge, and Super Car challenge, but they are pretty irrelevant in terms of quality compared to what I did list... Race 07 and GTR are hands down more sim than forza and GT.. Forza is bridging the gap in terms of physics, but it's still consolized and casualized for controllers.. In the same way Shift is. But that's what professional mode is for
Avatar image for Episode_Eve
Episode_Eve

16986

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#10 Episode_Eve
Member since 2004 • 16986 Posts

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]It's official, Shift looks and sounds awesome. Any opinions from the car/ simulation enthusiast crowd?Couth_

I've only seen a few comments from people who have played it. One guy here noted that the cars physics on the proffesional mode (which uses a different phys. engine than the other modes) were almost too difficult to keep on the track without assists, and it was much easier with a wheel.

The key things to note (which previews haven't noted) is that Shift has two different physics engines (regular and professional), and that shift is designed to be very easy with a controller (on normal). But switch to professional physics and this is a whole different beast

I think I'll be playing on noob mode lol. Unless somehow (highly unlikely) I can play with a wheel.
Avatar image for calvinx6
calvinx6

1788

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 12

User Lists: 0

#11 calvinx6
Member since 2004 • 1788 Posts

http://pc.ign.com/objects/143/14319192.html

I'm purchasing for sure. But I still want to see some more hardcore reviewers to get the final verdict on the physics. But in any case this is a serious player in the GT vs Forza game

+ "There are so many things done right in terms of design that this feels like the freshest take on the "simulation" racing genre in many, many years."
+"Slightly Mad has created an extraordinarily good cockpit view for the game, one that makes you feel like you're actually in the seat of a horsepower-bleeding supercar."
+"The brilliant part here, and this goes back to what I had mentioned about Slightly Mad doing a fantastic job of deciding which elements of the game to make more realistic"
+"So the driving mechanics and sense of speed are fantastic, but let me now get into the sound because it is awesome."
+"The driving experience is so close to the real thing that I can't bring myself to nit-picking"
+Great car selection

- Not a huge car selection
- Drifting
-Career mode is pretty linear
- Perhaps too easy to earn money

Closing Comments
"Need for Speed Shift is a glorious return to greatness (and even excellence) for EA's seminal racing franchise. Slightly Mad Studios has delivered a driving experience that, while not completely accurate in terms of its simulation aspects, is practically dead-on in terms of what it's like to race around some of the world's best racing circuits. The career mode could (and should) have been a little better, but the act of driving is basically phenomenal."

Couth_

Lol.

A NFS fanboy we don't see them often.

Avatar image for bisonfan2010
bisonfan2010

630

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#12 bisonfan2010
Member since 2009 • 630 Posts

O i miss the Gran Turismo 1 and 2 days. Great car selection..had racing modification..and allways got to drift to your hearts desire.

Avatar image for Couth_
Couth_

10369

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#13 Couth_
Member since 2008 • 10369 Posts

Lol.

A NFS fanboy we don't see them often.

calvinx6

:P I don't care what the games called if it's good i'll play it.

Avatar image for JetB1ackNewYear
JetB1ackNewYear

2931

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#14 JetB1ackNewYear
Member since 2007 • 2931 Posts
isent dirt 2 getting awesome reviews though?
Avatar image for PBSnipes
PBSnipes

14621

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#15 PBSnipes
Member since 2007 • 14621 Posts

Hard to get a feel for the gameplay from the review -- the writer says the driving model isn't as realistic as GT or Forza, but then again he could very well have been playing on the "normal" settings (which would be supported by the fact he lumped Forza's and GT's driving models together and was evidently using a gamepad). So at worst it would seem Shift is a better version of GRID, and at best it should be competitive with the hardcore sims.

That said, it really isn't comparable with Forza or GT; there just isn't enough content to compete with the two heavyweights. Hopefully they'll focus on expanding the game for the sequel.

Can't wait to get my hands on it next week and test it out on my 56" Samsung and Mirage 5.1 surround system. :D

Avatar image for Couth_
Couth_

10369

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#16 Couth_
Member since 2008 • 10369 Posts

That said, it really isn't comparable with Forza or GT; there just isn't enough content to compete with the two heavyweights. Hopefully they'll focus on expanding the game for the sequel.

PBSnipes

The car list isn't very expansive. But other than the exclusion of Ferrari, the selection is excellent. You have your Reventon, Murcielago and Diablo. Quite frankly that's all you need from Lambo. You don't have 40 skylines, but you have a couple skylines, and a couple GTRs, quite frankly, that's all you need. You have your Koenigsegg CCX. Bugati Veyron. Your Z06, Ford GT, BMW M3's. Audi R8, Viper SRt10, Mc12, McLaren F1...(heres a list)

Other than Ferrari, a Zr1, and Supra, there's pretty much no major car in GT or Forza that's not in Shift. All cars in shift have the ability to be upgraded and tuned to race cars. With custom or pre set liveries as well. SMS built the Shift engine from the ground up and was able to finish it up relatively fast. They can probably get a lot more cars and tracks for the next one, using this as a base

Avatar image for Syferonik
Syferonik

3060

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#17 Syferonik  Online
Member since 2006 • 3060 Posts
This is the only racing game i may get this year for its awesome sound alone worth it! Forza 3 and GT5 looks just like another racing game and nothing special to me.
Avatar image for monson21502
monson21502

8230

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#18 monson21502
Member since 2009 • 8230 Posts

why do they ruin the nfs name? wish they wouldnt make them without cop car chases. if this game gets a 9 on ign then gt5 and forza 3 will get 10s

Avatar image for Nero_Paladin
Nero_Paladin

1099

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#19 Nero_Paladin
Member since 2007 • 1099 Posts

I would bet that both GT and Forza get higher than 9s at IGN.

Avatar image for NielsNL
NielsNL

4346

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#20 NielsNL
Member since 2005 • 4346 Posts

I guess this has been said before, but aren't you comparing apples and oranges here?

Avatar image for imprezawrx500
imprezawrx500

19187

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#21 imprezawrx500
Member since 2004 • 19187 Posts
looks like a decent nfs after about 4 years. will be getting it for sure. hope it has split screen but probably doesn't.
Avatar image for imprezawrx500
imprezawrx500

19187

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#22 imprezawrx500
Member since 2004 • 19187 Posts
looks like a decent nfs after about 4 years. will be getting it for sure. hope it has split screen but probably doesn't.
[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="usule"]

you probably meant the dirt / grid / PGR genre... Forza and GT are sims.

usule
Forza and GT are accused of the same "arcadey-ness" as Shift when it comes to PC sims :?

I would beg to differ. Heck, let's be arrogant, I know that is WRONG! ;)

if you can racer round the rack without taking proper racing lines it is no real sim. gtr forces you to take the proper line or your off the track. gt/forza are half way between grid and gtr.
Avatar image for shakmaster13
shakmaster13

7138

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#23 shakmaster13
Member since 2007 • 7138 Posts

I always thought NFS:MW was more fun than the GT games so I would assume so.

And the games ARE in one genre. If you think Forza and GT are sims you should check out GTR.

Avatar image for kate_jones
kate_jones

3221

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#24 kate_jones
Member since 2007 • 3221 Posts

cool cool, I agree it's in the same genre as forza and gt, or maybe we should put forza in the rewind genre with grid and dirt2.

off to read

edit : oh yeah a sim fan had a shift demo with a wheel set it up in his night club at an event, and he got to play it for an hour, he had good things to say about the physics etc .. it's on virtualr somewhere

Avatar image for gameofthering
gameofthering

11286

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#25 gameofthering
Member since 2004 • 11286 Posts

Forget Forza 3 and GT5.

NFS : Shift all the way :D

Avatar image for abuabed
abuabed

6606

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#26 abuabed
Member since 2005 • 6606 Posts
It's official, Shift looks and sounds awesome. Any opinions from the car/ simulation enthusiast crowd?Episode_Eve
Yeah, I agree, Forza and GT gotta be careful.
Avatar image for imprezawrx500
imprezawrx500

19187

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#27 imprezawrx500
Member since 2004 • 19187 Posts
[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]It's official, Shift looks and sounds awesome. Any opinions from the car/ simulation enthusiast crowd?abuabed
Yeah, I agree, Forza and GT gotta be careful.

I'd laugh so hard if they scored lower. that would put a big dent in the hype. just wait till they both score 8.5.
Avatar image for ksko
ksko

509

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#28 ksko
Member since 2007 • 509 Posts

8.5 with 1000 cars hellll no.

ill bet it will get a 10 same with forza

Avatar image for Couth_
Couth_

10369

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#29 Couth_
Member since 2008 • 10369 Posts

I guess this has been said before, but aren't you comparing apples and oranges here?

NielsNL
Not at all. Apples to Apples. They may be different colors, but it's definitely apples to apples. For all the hate GT gets for being arcadey vs Forza, and Forza doesn't even get the time of day from PC sim enthusiasts, they are definitely in the same game as Shift. People are assuming because the way it looks its like Grid.. It's not Play the game, with professional physics. Then come back and say it's like Grid.. no way
Avatar image for NielsNL
NielsNL

4346

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#30 NielsNL
Member since 2005 • 4346 Posts

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

I guess this has been said before, but aren't you comparing apples and oranges here?

Couth_

Not at all. Apples to Apples. They may be different colors, but it's definitely apples to apples. For all the hate GT gets for being arcadey vs Forza, and Forza doesn't even get the time of day from PC sim enthusiasts, they are definitely in the same game as Shift. People are assuming because the way it looks its like Grid.. It's not Play the game, with professional physics. Then come back and say it's like Grid.. no way

I don't know, traditionally NFS is a arcade racer while Forza and GT are sims. Physics aren't all that's different between those two genres. Although your apples with different colours analogy makes sense in a way, they're still aiming at different target audiences.

Avatar image for Couth_
Couth_

10369

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#31 Couth_
Member since 2008 • 10369 Posts

[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="NielsNL"]

I guess this has been said before, but aren't you comparing apples and oranges here?

NielsNL

Not at all. Apples to Apples. They may be different colors, but it's definitely apples to apples. For all the hate GT gets for being arcadey vs Forza, and Forza doesn't even get the time of day from PC sim enthusiasts, they are definitely in the same game as Shift. People are assuming because the way it looks its like Grid.. It's not Play the game, with professional physics. Then come back and say it's like Grid.. no way

I don't know, traditionally NFS is a arcade racer while Forza and GT are sims. Physics aren't all that's different between those two genres. Although your apples with different colours analogy makes sense in a way, they're still aiming at different target audiences.

Just forget the names. Shift has different devs then past NFS games. In fact if you read the article, Shift is from the devs of the GTR series, a sim more hardcore than Forza and GT combined. They casualized Shift to work with a controller, and look very appealing, and at the same time made a physics engine more advanced then Forza 3s. (Which WAS the fastest physics engine on consoles)
Avatar image for aero250
aero250

3613

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#32 aero250
Member since 2009 • 3613 Posts
This is the only racing game i may get this year for its awesome sound alone worth it! Forza 3 and GT5 looks just like another racing game and nothing special to me.Syferonik
And Need for speed shift is evolving the Genre, Yeh thats what i thought.
Avatar image for NielsNL
NielsNL

4346

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#33 NielsNL
Member since 2005 • 4346 Posts

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"] Not at all. Apples to Apples. They may be different colors, but it's definitely apples to apples. For all the hate GT gets for being arcadey vs Forza, and Forza doesn't even get the time of day from PC sim enthusiasts, they are definitely in the same game as Shift. People are assuming because the way it looks its like Grid.. It's not Play the game, with professional physics. Then come back and say it's like Grid.. no wayCouth_

I don't know, traditionally NFS is a arcade racer while Forza and GT are sims. Physics aren't all that's different between those two genres. Although your apples with different colours analogy makes sense in a way, they're still aiming at different target audiences.

Just forget the names. Shift has different devs then past NFS games. In fact if you read the article, Shift is from the devs of the GTR series, a sim more hardcore than Forza and GT combined. They casualized Shift to work with a controller, and look very appealing, and at the same time made a physics engine more advanced then Forza 3s. (Which WAS the fastest physics engine on consoles)

Well you may be right. Shift is the game to beat for both Forza and GT then. Wonderhow GS willscore Shift.

Avatar image for Wasdie
Wasdie

53622

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 23

User Lists: 0

#34 Wasdie  Moderator
Member since 2003 • 53622 Posts

I've always been very impressed with the visuals of Shift. The in-car views looked just stunning and so atmospheric.

I'm actually thinking of picking this one up.

Avatar image for Couth_
Couth_

10369

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#35 Couth_
Member since 2008 • 10369 Posts

Well you may be right. Shift is the game to beat for both Forza and GT then. Wonderhow GS willscore Shift.

NielsNL

I fully expect FM3 to score higher. It has more content than Shift. 400 cars and 100 tracks and what not. It has the 220 race career mode, and it has some of the little things like the auction house and extensive paint editor etc. But at it's core, I fully expect Shift to be a better, more realistic, immersive driving experience.

Avatar image for soliderPp
soliderPp

1991

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#36 soliderPp
Member since 2004 • 1991 Posts
[QUOTE="usule"][QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="usule"] I would beg to differ. Heck, let's be arrogant, I know that is WRONG! ;)

Like I said. GT Forza and Shift are in the same class. LFS, rfactor, Race and GTR are in another.. And iracing is the most actual simulation

I will be fair with you, I have not played I racing, wont talk about it, However putting Shift with GT and Forza, and stating Race and GTR are more sim than forza or GT is WRONG! Played them. It is also intriguing that for some miraculous reasons, your "unbiased" ladder has only PC games while going up your "sim" scale.

No, GTR is hands down more of a racing simulation than GT4. I feel this actually works to GTR's disadvantage. GT4 finds and excellent blend of realism and fun. iRacing is just frustratingly difficult and that's why no one plays it. If you're stating that GT or Forza is more of a simulation game than games like GTR, TOCA3, and iRacing then more or less saying that you want you game to be so hard that no one will want to buy it....
Avatar image for NielsNL
NielsNL

4346

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#37 NielsNL
Member since 2005 • 4346 Posts

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]Well you may be right. Shift is the game to beat for both Forza and GT then. Wonderhow GS willscore Shift.

Couth_

I fully expect FM3 to score higher. It has more content than Shift. 400 cars and 100 tracks and what not. It has the 220 race career mode, and it has some of the little things like the auction house and extensive paint editor etc. But at it's core, I fully expect Shift to be a better, more realistic, immersive driving experience.

It's all a matter of preference I guess. Some people are more into content whereas others (purists?) will be more interested in the pure feel of the drving. For most it's a tradeoff (although having both beats all of course).

Avatar image for Vadamee
Vadamee

1195

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#38 Vadamee
Member since 2009 • 1195 Posts

and at the same time made a physics engine more advanced then Forza 3s.Couth_

Proof?

Avatar image for Couth_
Couth_

10369

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#39 Couth_
Member since 2008 • 10369 Posts

[QUOTE="Couth_"]and at the same time made a physics engine more advanced then Forza 3s.Vadamee

Proof?

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26985975

Basically 420 Hz vs 360 Hz

Avatar image for EmperorSupreme
EmperorSupreme

7686

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#40 EmperorSupreme
Member since 2006 • 7686 Posts
I can't decide if I should get SHIFT or DIRT2 now. One of them is my next purchase after I finish with Batman.
Avatar image for Vadamee
Vadamee

1195

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#41 Vadamee
Member since 2009 • 1195 Posts

[QUOTE="Vadamee"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"]and at the same time made a physics engine more advanced then Forza 3s.Couth_

Proof?

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26985975

Basically 420 Hz vs 360 Hz

Thats impressive for a NFS racer but that doesn't make the game more realistic than the latter, although it may be. So they are taking NFS away from arcade to simulation. That is good, I never liked the NFS series but have always liked Forza and GT..so I might have to consider this.
Avatar image for Wubba
Wubba

173

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#42 Wubba
Member since 2009 • 173 Posts

Not a bad score at all. I will probably have to get this just for Spa. I expect to be a little dissapointed in the graphics as EA are kings of the bait and switch, but hopefully the physics don't dissapoint.

Avatar image for Couth_
Couth_

10369

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#43 Couth_
Member since 2008 • 10369 Posts
[QUOTE="Couth_"]

[QUOTE="Vadamee"]

Proof?

Vadamee

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26985975

Basically 420 Hz vs 360 Hz

Thats impressive for a NFS racer but that doesn't make the game more realistic than the latter, although it may be. So they are taking NFS away from arcade to simulation. That is good, I never liked the NFS series but have always liked Forza and GT..so I might have to consider this.

I didn't say it is more realistic. But with a faster physics engine it has the potential to make more calculations and provide a more realistic experience
Avatar image for SpideR_CentS
SpideR_CentS

4766

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 8

User Lists: 0

#44 SpideR_CentS
Member since 2006 • 4766 Posts

I bet both Forza and GT score higher then 9.0 at IGN :P

Avatar image for GTR2addict
GTR2addict

11863

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#45 GTR2addict
Member since 2007 • 11863 Posts

you probably meant the dirt / grid / PGR genre... Forza and GT are sims.

usule
there we go with forza and GT being sims... they aren't, get over it
Avatar image for GTR2addict
GTR2addict

11863

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#46 GTR2addict
Member since 2007 • 11863 Posts
[QUOTE="usule"][QUOTE="Couth_"]Like I said. GT Forza and Shift are in the same class. LFS, rfactor, Race and GTR are in another.. And iracing is the most actual simulationsoliderPp
I will be fair with you, I have not played I racing, wont talk about it, However putting Shift with GT and Forza, and stating Race and GTR are more sim than forza or GT is WRONG! Played them. It is also intriguing that for some miraculous reasons, your "unbiased" ladder has only PC games while going up your "sim" scale.

No, GTR is hands down more of a racing simulation than GT4. I feel this actually works to GTR's disadvantage. GT4 finds and excellent blend of realism and fun. iRacing is just frustratingly difficult and that's why no one plays it. If you're stating that GT or Forza is more of a simulation game than games like GTR, TOCA3, and iRacing then more or less saying that you want you game to be so hard that no one will want to buy it....

toca 3 is nowhere near as hardcore as GTR... besides, some people enjoy and find realism fun, such as me, i love iracing, i like my games hard to handle and tough to master... i 100%'d GT2 when i was 8 and GT3 when i was 10, GT4 when i was 14, and right now they feel arcadey and unrealistic...
Avatar image for Couth_
Couth_

10369

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#48 Couth_
Member since 2008 • 10369 Posts

[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="usule"] I would beg to differ. Heck, let's be arrogant, I know that is WRONG! ;)skyform

Like I said. GT Forza and Shift are in the same class. LFS, rfactor, Race and GTR are in another.. And iracing is the most actual simulation

You got to be kidding, i played all the games you mentioned, yes they all play more realistic then FM2 and GT5P, but we didnt yet play FM3 and GT5.

Many PC sim experts who played the FM3 demo said if feels like a PC sim and comparing Shift even with FM2 is crazy. Go take a better look at Shift, the hanldling looks total wrong even from the videos not to mention playing, while not in FM2, FM3, GT5P or GT5. The cars in Shift are sliding like crazy and can't almost not spin or lose control over it, looks like racing on rails and ice at the same time.

read back. I already acknowledged fm3 is bridging the gap between console and pc sims, but its still consolized for contollers, just like shift is. But there is a professional mode, which is what you don't see in promo vids. That's tailored for ffb wheels and ur more hardcore sims

Avatar image for Gamer556
Gamer556

3846

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#49 Gamer556
Member since 2006 • 3846 Posts

I bet NFS Shift is a lot of fun, and visually it is at least as good as Forza or GT, but it doesn't have to content to match up. Even though the physics put it in the sim category, Shift seems closer to Grid than either Forza or GT.