NFS:Shift is made by the makers of GTR2 (read and poll)

  • 59 results
  • 1
  • 2

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for Couth_
Couth_

10369

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#1 Couth_
Member since 2008 • 10369 Posts

First a little background. Simbin were the developers of many different hardcore PC racing sims. After the development of GTLegends the developers split from simbin to form 'Blimey' games. At which point they signed with 10tacle to finish GTLegends and begin working on GTR2, of which they did about 99% of the development. Fast forward a little big, blimey and 10tacle got in soem financial trouble. Money that was expected didn't come, and some deals didn't sign, so blimey dissolved. So then, Slightly Mad Studios was formed from the same team.

Now onto the game:

First the engine: "The tech for Shift is built from the ground up and has never been seen before in any game. It is totally Unique and Ground breaking"

"Heres the thing, we have something new here. We have it because of the effort that has been put into the physics engine. Until this point, sim equaled hard, arcade equaled easy on the handling. The team felt this was more of a case of the realistic games not handling properly as opposed to sims being hard. I drove Forza and Gran Turismo and real cars don't handle like that. Real cars don't skid at 30mph and keep skidding at speed. Tyres when interacting with asphault grip/slipslide/slip/regrip and so forth, and with driver input are very controllable. This goes especially with race cars with slicks. Not only have sims not been compensative for the lack of g forces etc but theyve been making the cars spin out too easily. If any pit crew gave a real race car driver a car like that they would take it right back and tell them to fix it"

"When the team were at blimey! they did probably more than 99% of the development on GTR2. GTR2 was too hard, because the physics engine was lacking in some areas, wasn't measuring enough parameters quickly enough and in the correct way. Real cars are easy to drive slow and fast... Take any car on the track with some cheap slicks and you can abuse it to hell and back, slide all over the place, but under steering and throttle control. You need a skid pan to induce the leery spins you see in some of the so called realistic racing games. You'll see what I mean when you play SHIFT. It's a generation ahead in this area."

"We have a default mode thats ace for most players. The masses that enjoy PGR/GT5p etc. The novice mode for beginners. We also have a pro mode for the more hardcore guys. We're running a more complex physics engine than anything else on the market. No physics engine runs faster or reads at much.... 420hz, as of now, but if we find higher gives an advantage we might raise it and visa versa.

So what do you think of NFS SHift now?

http://www.autosimsport.net/index2/index.php/online-article-list/169-assmag-vol5-iss1

Avatar image for wayne_kar
wayne_kar

2090

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#2 wayne_kar
Member since 2009 • 2090 Posts

its the only reason im interested/looking forward to it.

Avatar image for Couth_
Couth_

10369

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#3 Couth_
Member since 2008 • 10369 Posts

its the only reason im interested/looking forward to it.

wayne_kar
NFS has such a bad reputation. If this game went by any other name you would probably have a lot more people interested
Avatar image for wayne_kar
wayne_kar

2090

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#4 wayne_kar
Member since 2009 • 2090 Posts
[QUOTE="wayne_kar"]

its the only reason im interested/looking forward to it.

Couth_
NFS has such a bad reputation. If this game went by any other name you would probably have a lot more people interested

yeah i agree with that. seems more a curse than a blessing.
Avatar image for adamosmaki
adamosmaki

10718

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#5 adamosmaki
Member since 2007 • 10718 Posts

its the only reason im interested/looking forward to it.

wayne_kar
same here
Avatar image for masiisam
masiisam

5723

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#6 masiisam
Member since 2003 • 5723 Posts

I have been interested in this game from day one....I like what I hear.....but I never like what I see (not grafx related)....I guess I need to see a video that does not have a d-bag driving.... I can't tell if it's the game or the guy when it comes to some handling aspects

Avatar image for BioShockOwnz
BioShockOwnz

52901

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#7 BioShockOwnz
Member since 2006 • 52901 Posts

I must admit, this game is looking pretty stellar. EA has really been turning it around. Well, cept for GI Joe. :P

Avatar image for aero250
aero250

3613

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#8 aero250
Member since 2009 • 3613 Posts
It looks solid which is surprising.
Avatar image for Couth_
Couth_

10369

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#9 Couth_
Member since 2008 • 10369 Posts

I have been interested in this game from day one....I like what I hear.....but I never like what I see (not grafx related)....I guess I need to see a video that does not have a d-bag driving.... I can't tell if it's the game or the guy when it comes to some handling aspects

masiisam
Same here but I'm banking on the fact the game is usually demoed on the arcadey mode. Also usually when its shown off like at gamespots e3 stagedemo, the guy talking is from ea, not sms. This is one of the few times you see an actual developer speak about the game, not ea pr
Avatar image for reyad-u
reyad-u

6960

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#10 reyad-u
Member since 2006 • 6960 Posts
This game is starting to really catch my eye.
Avatar image for Couth_
Couth_

10369

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#11 Couth_
Member since 2008 • 10369 Posts
Sad how much hype gt and forza get, but this gets none :( this has the car flippage too
Avatar image for Androvinus
Androvinus

5796

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 12

User Lists: 0

#12 Androvinus
Member since 2008 • 5796 Posts
this will be nowhere near the scale of forza or gt. i would rather buy the great games that i would get twice my moneys worth out of
Avatar image for Couth_
Couth_

10369

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#13 Couth_
Member since 2008 • 10369 Posts
this will be nowhere near the scale of forza or gt. i would rather buy the great games that i would get twice my moneys worth out ofAndrovinus
And that's based off of what exactly :?
Avatar image for Androvinus
Androvinus

5796

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 12

User Lists: 0

#14 Androvinus
Member since 2008 • 5796 Posts
[QUOTE="Androvinus"]this will be nowhere near the scale of forza or gt. i would rather buy the great games that i would get twice my moneys worth out ofCouth_
And that's based off of what exactly :?

do you really think that shift will be as big as GT5. honestly ?
Avatar image for SparkyProtocol
SparkyProtocol

7680

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 76

User Lists: 0

#15 SparkyProtocol
Member since 2009 • 7680 Posts
Sad how much hype gt and forza get, but this gets none :( this has the car flippage too Couth_
Not sad at all. Forza and GT deserve more hype and are deeper games.
Avatar image for foxhound_fox
foxhound_fox

98532

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#16 foxhound_fox
Member since 2005 • 98532 Posts

Just because the game is by Simbin doesn't mean its going to be a proper sim.

Avatar image for Wardemon50
Wardemon50

1637

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#17 Wardemon50
Member since 2005 • 1637 Posts
[QUOTE="Couth_"]Sad how much hype gt and forza get, but this gets none :( this has the car flippage too SparkyProtocol
Not sad at all. Forza and GT deserve more hype and are deeper games.

Have you ever played GTR2?
Avatar image for mo0ksi
mo0ksi

12337

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#18 mo0ksi
Member since 2007 • 12337 Posts
[QUOTE="Couth_"]Sad how much hype gt and forza get, but this gets none :( this has the car flippage too SparkyProtocol
Not sad at all. Forza and GT deserve more hype and are deeper games.

GTR2 is a deeper racing sim than any of the GT or Forza games.
Avatar image for ManicAce
ManicAce

3267

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 26

User Lists: 0

#19 ManicAce
Member since 2009 • 3267 Posts
I thought it was looking very good, and this has definately increased my interest in it, it's now on my wish list.
Avatar image for SparkyProtocol
SparkyProtocol

7680

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 76

User Lists: 0

#20 SparkyProtocol
Member since 2009 • 7680 Posts
[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="Couth_"]Sad how much hype gt and forza get, but this gets none :( this has the car flippage too mo0ksi
Not sad at all. Forza and GT deserve more hype and are deeper games.

GTR2 is a deeper racing sim than any of the GT or Forza games.

Please, Forza 3 deserves more hype than this. Probably GT5 also once we see more info about it. I doubt GTR2 is deeper than the upcoming racing sims.
Avatar image for Adrian_Cloud
Adrian_Cloud

7169

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#21 Adrian_Cloud
Member since 2006 • 7169 Posts
Real cars can skid at less than 30mph( :|) Looks like EA is following suit with Turn10 and talking a lot of of fluff. NFS: Shift is shaping up to be a great game, this article hasn't changed my mind about that. Its kind of making me dislike the developers, "No physics engine runs faster or reads as much..." tihs can neither be validated or disproven. I'm not one of talking arrogance as truth, so they should stick to talking about their own game.
Avatar image for foxhound_fox
foxhound_fox

98532

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#22 foxhound_fox
Member since 2005 • 98532 Posts

Please, Forza 3 deserves more hype than this. Probably GT5 also once we see more info about it. I doubt GTR2 is deeper than the upcoming racing sims.SparkyProtocol

Sarcasm? GTR2 is the absolute deepest sim that has ever hit the market (aside from its direct successor, GTR Evolution). GTR2 is about three generations ahead of Forza 3 in terms of simulation technology.

Avatar image for Couth_
Couth_

10369

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#23 Couth_
Member since 2008 • 10369 Posts

Just because the game is by Simbin doesn't mean its going to be a proper sim.

foxhound_fox
This isn't simbin. Simbin probably went to crap when blimey left. That's why race pro is average
Avatar image for SparkyProtocol
SparkyProtocol

7680

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 76

User Lists: 0

#24 SparkyProtocol
Member since 2009 • 7680 Posts

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"] Please, Forza 3 deserves more hype than this. Probably GT5 also once we see more info about it. I doubt GTR2 is deeper than the upcoming racing sims.foxhound_fox


Sarcasm? GTR2 is the absolute deepest sim that has ever hit the market (aside from its direct successor, GTR Evolution). GTR2 is about three generations ahead of Forza 3 in terms of simulation technology.

I mistaken it for Grand Turismo. :o whoops

Avatar image for Wardemon50
Wardemon50

1637

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#25 Wardemon50
Member since 2005 • 1637 Posts

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"] Please, Forza 3 deserves more hype than this. Probably GT5 also once we see more info about it. I doubt GTR2 is deeper than the upcoming racing sims.foxhound_fox


Sarcasm? GTR2 is the absolute deepest sim that has ever hit the market (aside from its direct successor, GTR Evolution). GTR2 is about three generations ahead of Forza 3 in terms of simulation technology.

I think a lot of people put GTR2 aside because it doesn't have graphics like Forza or GT5. If you really are a racing sim fan, GTR2 would mean much more to you.

Avatar image for foxhound_fox
foxhound_fox

98532

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#26 foxhound_fox
Member since 2005 • 98532 Posts

I think a lot of people put GTR2 aside because it doesn't have graphics like Forza or GT5. If you really are a racing sim fan, GTR2 would mean much more to you.

Wardemon50


One of the problems is that consolites think that graphics make a game more realistic... so they apply that logic to the racing genre as well. But what they fail to understand is that racing realism comes from physics, not graphics. Like look at military simulators, they look like ass yet they are the programs being used for simulating military strikes and for training. They accurately recreate reality in a virtual universe... they don't have time or resources to make it look pretty. The same goes with GTR2... it has to devote precious resources to physics calculations and AI more so than graphics.

I personally tried getting into GTR2 and couldn't. The learning curve was just too high for me and the realism far too punishing. I'm a Forza fan because it draws the line between realistic and fun without losing the actual realism. Instead of just being sadistically realistic. If I had the high quality desktop, with high quality wheel, pedal and shifter peripherals and the time to get into it, I probably would. But I don't have the desktop, wheel or time.

GT comes between Forza and Project Gotham. It isn't quite a simcade like PGR and GRID, but its isn't quite a proper sim either. Its realism comes from graphics, not proper racing physics recreation. Which kind of edges it out of the "true" sim genre. While Forza may not come close to matching Simbin's offerings, it still endeavours to recreate realistic racing and make it more accessible to a broader audience.

Avatar image for Wardemon50
Wardemon50

1637

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#27 Wardemon50
Member since 2005 • 1637 Posts

[QUOTE="Wardemon50"] I think a lot of people put GTR2 aside because it doesn't have graphics like Forza or GT5. If you really are a racing sim fan, GTR2 would mean much more to you.

foxhound_fox


One of the problems is that consolites think that graphics make a game more realistic... so they apply that logic to the racing genre as well. But what they fail to understand is that racing realism comes from physics, not graphics. Like look at military simulators, they look like ass yet they are the programs being used for simulating military strikes and for training. They accurately recreate reality in a virtual universe... they don't have time or resources to make it look pretty. The same goes with GTR2... it has to devote precious resources to physics calculations and AI more so than graphics.

I personally tried getting into GTR2 and couldn't. The learning curve was just too high for me and the realism far too punishing. I'm a Forza fan because it draws the line between realistic and fun without losing the actual realism. Instead of just being sadistically realistic. If I had the high quality desktop, with high quality wheel, pedal and shifter peripherals and the time to get into it, I probably would. But I don't have the desktop, wheel or time.

GT comes between Forza and Project Gotham. It isn't quite a simcade like PGR and GRID, but its isn't quite a proper sim either. Its realism comes from graphics, not proper racing physics recreation. Which kind of edges it out of the "true" sim genre. While Forza may not come close to matching Simbin's offerings, it still endeavours to recreate realistic racing and make it more accessible to a broader audience.

Yeah I agree. I had a lot of fun with Forza 1 and 2 and I liked the GT series (Forza was the first racing game I liked). My favorite part of that game was tuning all the parts to try and get the right feel for the car. Now last year I had the opportunity to play GTR2 on a decent desktop, but with a nice wheel. Now with Forza 2, the wheel felt like a gimmick to me because it didn't really feel right. GTR2 was different. That game has a lot of love put into making all the cars feel real. I personally can't wait for Shift.

Avatar image for Couth_
Couth_

10369

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#28 Couth_
Member since 2008 • 10369 Posts
Real cars can skid at less than 30mph( :|) Looks like EA is following suit with Turn10 and talking a lot of of fluff. NFS: Shift is shaping up to be a great game, this article hasn't changed my mind about that. Its kind of making me dislike the developers, "No physics engine runs faster or reads as much..." tihs can neither be validated or disproven. I'm not one of talking arrogance as truth, so they should stick to talking about their own game. Adrian_Cloud
Well first off you have selective reading. Real cars don't skid at 30 mph AND keep going at speed because of the grip/skid effect he explains. Also according to t10 their physics engine for fm3 runs at 360hz, while sms runs at 420 hz. It can be tested and provenjudt that neither is out to be put to the test
Avatar image for Tobin09
Tobin09

1579

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#29 Tobin09
Member since 2006 • 1579 Posts

All of the previews, and the videos I have read, make it seem like it handles likePGR4.

Even if it is uber realistic. Does it have any of the content or features gt or forza have? NO.

Avatar image for kate_jones
kate_jones

3221

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#30 kate_jones
Member since 2007 • 3221 Posts

All of the previews, and the videos I have read, make it seem like it handles likePGR4.

Even if it is uber realistic. Does it have any of the content or features gt or forza have? NO.

Tobin09

I would cry if it handled like pgr, im guessing its going to be like grid, what good is 600 cars if 400 of them are things i'd be ashamed to go shopping in.

anyway hope it turns out, I like car games so I'll buy the others anyway

Avatar image for Innovazero2000
Innovazero2000

3159

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#31 Innovazero2000
Member since 2006 • 3159 Posts

I'll believe it when I see, it looks good, but honestly I've seen the videos and it looks like it handles like a slightly more realistic PGR/Grid. Not in the vien of Forza/GT5, nevermind the actual GT2.

Avatar image for Threebabycows
Threebabycows

1086

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#32 Threebabycows
Member since 2008 • 1086 Posts

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"] Please, Forza 3 deserves more hype than this. Probably GT5 also once we see more info about it. I doubt GTR2 is deeper than the upcoming racing sims.foxhound_fox


Sarcasm? GTR2 is the absolute deepest sim that has ever hit the market (aside from its direct successor, GTR Evolution). GTR2 is about three generations ahead of Forza 3 in terms of simulation technology.

How do you know it isn't out yet.

Avatar image for SparkyProtocol
SparkyProtocol

7680

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 76

User Lists: 0

#33 SparkyProtocol
Member since 2009 • 7680 Posts

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"] Please, Forza 3 deserves more hype than this. Probably GT5 also once we see more info about it. I doubt GTR2 is deeper than the upcoming racing sims.Threebabycows


Sarcasm? GTR2 is the absolute deepest sim that has ever hit the market (aside from its direct successor, GTR Evolution). GTR2 is about three generations ahead of Forza 3 in terms of simulation technology.

How do you know it isn't out yet.

Generations ahead was probably just an exaggeration.

Avatar image for Couth_
Couth_

10369

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#34 Couth_
Member since 2008 • 10369 Posts

All of the previews, and the videos I have read, make it seem like it handles likePGR4.

Even if it is uber realistic. Does it have any of the content or features gt or forza have? NO.

Tobin09

that's just a little funny coming from you.. What did you finish like half of forza2 :?

Avatar image for Threebabycows
Threebabycows

1086

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#35 Threebabycows
Member since 2008 • 1086 Posts

[QUOTE="Threebabycows"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]
Sarcasm? GTR2 is the absolute deepest sim that has ever hit the market (aside from its direct successor, GTR Evolution). GTR2 is about three generations ahead of Forza 3 in terms of simulation technology.

SparkyProtocol

How do you know it isn't out yet.

Generations ahead was probably just an exaggeration.

I know but forza 3 in full sim mode could be just as good as Rfacter/GTR/Live for speed, I am not saying it will happen but it is possible.

Avatar image for Wardemon50
Wardemon50

1637

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#36 Wardemon50
Member since 2005 • 1637 Posts

[QUOTE="Threebabycows"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]
Sarcasm? GTR2 is the absolute deepest sim that has ever hit the market (aside from its direct successor, GTR Evolution). GTR2 is about three generations ahead of Forza 3 in terms of simulation technology.

SparkyProtocol

How do you know it isn't out yet.

Generations ahead was probably just an exaggeration.

By saying probably I'm guessing you haven't played it.

Avatar image for SparkyProtocol
SparkyProtocol

7680

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 76

User Lists: 0

#37 SparkyProtocol
Member since 2009 • 7680 Posts

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]

[QUOTE="Threebabycows"]

How do you know it isn't out yet.

Wardemon50

Generations ahead was probably just an exaggeration.

By saying probably I'm guessing you haven't played it.

I know you havent if you think it is generations ahead.

Avatar image for BioShockOwnz
BioShockOwnz

52901

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#38 BioShockOwnz
Member since 2006 • 52901 Posts

The way it looks to play seems more PGR-ish, with a mixture of sim and arcade. I dig that. I love the PGR franchise. And this game looks tight.

Avatar image for GTR2addict
GTR2addict

11863

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#39 GTR2addict
Member since 2007 • 11863 Posts
[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="wayne_kar"]

its the only reason im interested/looking forward to it.

wayne_kar
NFS has such a bad reputation. If this game went by any other name you would probably have a lot more people interested

yeah i agree with that. seems more a curse than a blessing.

hell yeah, no one wold laugh at this if it lost the NFS tag. i have faith in ian bell & team, looking at my username, i can safely say i trust their abilities as a developer
Avatar image for Couth_
Couth_

10369

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#40 Couth_
Member since 2008 • 10369 Posts

I'll believe it when I see, it looks good, but honestly I've seen the videos and it looks like it handles like a slightly more realistic PGR/Grid. Not in the vien of Forza/GT5, nevermind the actual GT2.

Innovazero2000

well obviiusly. If you read the entire article you can see that's exactly what they are going for on normal. But there is a pro mode which is uber realistic, with aa 420hz physics engine. Read the article its good stuff

Avatar image for GTR2addict
GTR2addict

11863

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#41 GTR2addict
Member since 2007 • 11863 Posts

I know but forza 3 in full sim mode could be just as good as Rfacter/GTR/Live for speed, I am not saying it will happen but it is possible.Threebabycows
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH oh god i'm crying with laughter, you seriously thing forza will EVER reach gtr and rfactor? you have a LOT to learn about cars little one
I know you havent if you think it is generations ahead.

SparkyProtocol

you just proved you have never played it, GTR2 is generations, many of them ahead of GTR2 and forza. do you happen to know of a little something called Motec? it's what they use to collect data from real race cars and turn that data into the cars ingame.

Avatar image for Wardemon50
Wardemon50

1637

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#42 Wardemon50
Member since 2005 • 1637 Posts

[QUOTE="Threebabycows"]I know but forza 3 in full sim mode could be just as good as Rfacter/GTR/Live for speed, I am not saying it will happen but it is possible.GTR2addict

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH oh god i'm crying with laughter, you seriously thing forza will EVER reach gtr and rfactor? you have a LOT to learn about cars little one
I know you havent if you think it is generations ahead.

SparkyProtocol

you just proved you have never played it, GTR2 is generations, many of them ahead of GTR2 and forza. do you happen to know of a little something called Motec? it's what they use to collect data from real race cars and turn that data into the cars ingame.

I was wondering when you'd show up
Avatar image for foxhound_fox
foxhound_fox

98532

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#43 foxhound_fox
Member since 2005 • 98532 Posts

How do you know it isn't out yet.

Threebabycows


Because GTR2 is vastly superior to anything the consoles can do. Once you play the game, you understand how far ahead it actually is. Forza 2 is to GTR2 as Gran Turimso 2 is to Gran Turismo 5.

Avatar image for FrozenLiquid
FrozenLiquid

13555

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 22

User Lists: 0

#44 FrozenLiquid
Member since 2007 • 13555 Posts

OMG :shock:. If this is true... I can give up real driving forever!

Yeah, right :P.

Honestly, this sounds amazing. Finally, a console racing game that attempts to emulate real life!

Still, what's up with all the simcadey videos they've been showing?

Just because the game is by Simbin doesn't mean its going to be a proper sim.

foxhound_fox

Did you not hear what he said? Were you too busy sipping the Forza hype? For too long I've been bored to death of console sims simply because they didn't handle like real life. Sure, they had a crapload of gear head features and quite recently a fantastic shift onto community-oriented stuff (the bread and butter of the car enthusiast arena! :D), but when you put that ****ing virtual car on the race track, it handles like ass. Really, is it so simple, Turn 10 and Polyphony, that asphalt means fast and grass means slow? Hell to the ****ing NO. When I go off track I expect my car to go on a bumpy, slippery, tractionless ride, not some lame ass steady decrease in speed which is basically telling me "dude, get back on the asphalt". I've been waiting for this feature for freakin' ages, which is why sims have been boring to me since GT2. Finally, a developer, no less supported by EA, is showing the light.

As for now, I don't give a toss if they had one car and one track in this game. If he lives up to what he says, I'm buying this game full price.

Avatar image for Couth_
Couth_

10369

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#45 Couth_
Member since 2008 • 10369 Posts
Liquid all I can guess about the vids is that EA is the publisher and in charge of marketing and exposure.. Hardcore sim won't sell as much as arcadey action :P
Avatar image for imprezawrx500
imprezawrx500

19187

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#46 imprezawrx500
Member since 2004 • 19187 Posts

Just because the game is by Simbin doesn't mean its going to be a proper sim.

foxhound_fox
true but neither gt or forza are proper sims, both are arcade sims.
Avatar image for Mckenna1845
Mckenna1845

4410

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#47 Mckenna1845
Member since 2005 • 4410 Posts

looks really good, i just prejudged the game and thought it would be really bad. like the rest of the need for speed franchise for the last few years. this has got me interested, i may have to buy 3 racing games now!

Avatar image for AdrianWerner
AdrianWerner

28441

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#48 AdrianWerner
Member since 2003 • 28441 Posts


Sarcasm? GTR2 is the absolute deepest sim that has ever hit the market (aside from its direct successor, GTR Evolution).

foxhound_fox

I wouldn't go that far. NetKar was comparable (a bit more hardcore on physics, but with less options), the same with rFactor, which is the core game using the engine which all Simbin and Blimey games use (both physics and graphics) and also other GMotor engine-based games like Arca or Turismo Carratera. And then there's Nascar 2003 and especially iRacing, both much more hardcore and deep than GTR series was.

But yes....GTR series has been incredible and is one of definitive racing sims on the market.

With Shift..I don't know..the team is incredible, but it's the first time they're doing all the physics by themselves instead of licensing it from ISI and then tweaking, the team has never written an racing engine. On the other hand, they did hire the guy who wrote Richard Burns Rally physics engine, so that's a good sign. There's also question about how much simmy EA will let them be.

Still..it will be a huge surprise for most people, I laugh at their claims about beating everbody else (they won't beat iRacing, nothing will), but I don't think those guys are capable of making anything that's not excellent racing sim.

Avatar image for aero250
aero250

3613

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#49 aero250
Member since 2009 • 3613 Posts
[QUOTE="Tobin09"]

All of the previews, and the videos I have read, make it seem like it handles likePGR4.

Even if it is uber realistic. Does it have any of the content or features gt or forza have? NO.

Even if it had better physics than forza which it won't, It's still far behind as an overall package.
Avatar image for aero250
aero250

3613

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#50 aero250
Member since 2009 • 3613 Posts

looks really good, i just prejudged the game and thought it would be really bad. like the rest of the need for speed franchise for the last few years. this has got me interested, i may have to buy 3 racing games now!

Mckenna1845
Yeh i expected Shift to be terrible but it's actually shaping up to be a solid racing game.