NGS2 will FLOP in Sales

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#51 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="simslifer"]

what reason ? because it's a new ip that no one knows or because it was a platformer not fps which usually sell good or was it the fact that it wasn't advertised good.

yea with those reason it shoulve sold 8 million lol

truthfully LBP had everything going against it and it beat the odds.

simslifer

Nah, because it has tons of appeal and a massive advertising budget (don't fool youselves people, this game had marketing behind it). It was 2D and in an easily accessible genre and it was mulitplayer and pick up and play style gameplay. I knew the game would hit 2 million and I was right. The only thing LBP had going against it was an expensive PS3, nothing else.

that game was definitely not advertised liek it should and seriously 2d platformers don't sell good where do you get it does in this gen ?

expensive PS3

new ip

not a fps

no advertisement

it looked too kiddy for hardcore gamers

I personally believe the reason it did so well is because of word of mouth from ratings, magazines and people who played the game.

LBP had huge advertising. I'm not arguing this with you, it did end of story. As far as being a 2D platformer goes, of course there haven't been many high selling 2D platformers this gen, there have been like 3 all together lol. However being 2D makes the game instantly more accessible to the average person and being a platformer makes it in a genre known for accessible gameplay.

Expensive PS3: Already said it had that against it
New IP: Not an excuse, tons of new IPs have sold well this gen
Not an FPS: You're really grasping now
No advertisement: You are wrong here no questions about it
It looked too kiddy for hardcore gamers: You're really grasping here. Also, what makes you think these "hardcore gamers" bought it? What even makes you think "hardcore gamers" dislike inventive art?

Despite me knowing you would lie on the games behalf you aren't getting anywhere with that kind of reasoning.

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#52 simslifer
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[QUOTE="simslifer"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Nah, because it has tons of appeal and a massive advertising budget (don't fool youselves people, this game had marketing behind it). It was 2D and in an easily accessible genre and it was mulitplayer and pick up and play style gameplay. I knew the game would hit 2 million and I was right. The only thing LBP had going against it was an expensive PS3, nothing else.

-Pred-Alien-

that game was definitely not advertised liek it should and seriously 2d platformers don't sell good where do you get it does in this gen ?

expensive PS3

new ip

not a fps

no advertisement

it looked too kiddy for hardcore gamers

I personally believe the reason it did so well is because of word of mouth from ratings, magazines and people who played the game.

It still did very well, but damn its being sold at rock-bottom prices these days.

are you kidding it's still $65

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#53 simslifer
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[QUOTE="simslifer"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Nah, because it has tons of appeal and a massive advertising budget (don't fool youselves people, this game had marketing behind it). It was 2D and in an easily accessible genre and it was mulitplayer and pick up and play style gameplay. I knew the game would hit 2 million and I was right. The only thing LBP had going against it was an expensive PS3, nothing else.

ActicEdge

that game was definitely not advertised liek it should and seriously 2d platformers don't sell good where do you get it does in this gen ?

expensive PS3

new ip

not a fps

no advertisement

it looked too kiddy for hardcore gamers

I personally believe the reason it did so well is because of word of mouth from ratings, magazines and people who played the game.

LBP had huge advertising. I'm not arguing this with you, it did end of story. As far as being a 2D platformer goes, of course there haven't been many high selling 2D platformers this gen, there have been like 3 all together lol. However being 2D makes the game instantly more accessible to the average person and being a platformer makes it in a genre known for accessible gameplay.

Expensive PS3: Already said it had that against it
New IP: Not an excuse, tons of new IPs have sold well this gen
Not an FPS: You're really grasping now
No advertisement: You are wrong here no questions about it
It looked too kiddy for hardcore gamers: You're really grasping here. Also, what makes you think these "hardcore gamers" bought it? What even makes you think "hardcore gamers" dislike inventive art?

Despite me knowing you would lie on the games behalf you aren't getting anywhere with that kind of reasoning.

advertisement, I personally did not see any.

if 2d was more accesible more 2d games would sell good, it doesn't matter if it has accesible gameplay most people don't get interested in 2d platformers anymore sad but true.

mostly established franchises sell more not new ip that's a fact, new ips generally have to prove themselves.

I am not grasping the FPS genre sell the most, platformers especially 2d ones do not sell good unless it's mario.

the advertising was lackluster as far as I have witnessed but maybe it was different for you.

I like hardcore games and I at first thought it was kiddy until a friend convinced me to buy it and friends that I have who we play Call of Duty games I tried to explain to them that it's a good game but they see it as a game for kids.

the game does have a reputation of being kiddy there's no question about it I even hear jokes on PSN.

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#54 calvinx6
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="simslifer"]

what reason ? because it's a new ip that no one knows or because it was a platformer not fps which usually sell good or was it the fact that it wasn't advertised good.

yea with those reason it shoulve sold 8 million lol

truthfully LBP had everything going against it and it beat the odds.

simslifer

Nah, because it has tons of appeal and a massive advertising budget (don't fool youselves people, this game had marketing behind it). It was 2D and in an easily accessible genre and it was mulitplayer and pick up and play style gameplay. I knew the game would hit 2 million and I was right. The only thing LBP had going against it was an expensive PS3, nothing else.

that game was definitely not advertised liek it should and seriously 2d platformers don't sell good where do you get it does in this gen ?

expensive PS3

new ip

not a fps

no advertisement

it looked too kiddy for hardcore gamers

I personally believe the reason it did so well is because of word of mouth from ratings, magazines and people who played the game.

Right.

Becasue there was no hype for lbp.

It was not praise to sell a boatload and boast ps3 hardware sale.

It was not one of those wait and see title.

It wasn't advertise at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ytFUsWmHsc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2fAxq-XALU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajo4zLLD_Dc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyiVHR9DIA8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsvXmWLkTZc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz4DR-ksBxM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGjT1dTYp8Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUi542mAMA8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FEqkKb5iIo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKtXXUaRQP0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSj0ATxROkc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Kq12kciPC8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoA4Iq8X45Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha2mG28x8C4

Damn sony need to advertise there game more.

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#55 SolidTy
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I say it now and you can qoute me on this,no matter how much better it is than more than NG2 it won't sell as much.

calvinx6

Uh...congrats?

We alll already know this, LATE ports enhanced or not rarely do.

No one is claiming otherwise either. Thanks for stating what most of us all know though.

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#56 Episode_Eve
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Tell me something new. Will be a great game.
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#57 RedruM_I
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[QUOTE="DeadMagazines"][QUOTE="funsohng"] not sure about bioshock, but lost planet was just horrible...Kahuna_1

2.2mil for 360 and 430k for ps3

Yeah because they released it during the fall and it had to compete with SOCOM, LBP, and Resistance 2. The game had no chance, they should have released it during the summer. Also, who wants to pay full price for games that are over a year old..

That's what I think too. PS3 games don't sell so good because gamers have too many choices! Lems have so few choices that everytime a game comes out which looks ok it sells like hotcakes. Lems are desperate. :P
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#58 deactivated-652663614c5e5
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oh well, it'll still be the superior game.

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#59 rybe1025
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[QUOTE="Melkari"]

Probably. However, that has no impact on whether it's the better game or not.

simslifer

to lemmings everything revolves around sales lol

if you look at their game library I dont blame them.

You mean the same library that is better scoring then the PS3 library also bigger and more diverse? I guess it is easy for 360 fans to brag about buying software when the have the better library to choose from.
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#60 Nonstop-Madness
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Cows never buy the supposed superior versions of their year old ports. Just look at bioshock and lost planet sales figures for ps3 :lol: DeadMagazines
Bioshock and Lost Planet were both horrific ports thats why people didnt buy them.
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#61 Nonstop-Madness
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[QUOTE="simslifer"]

[QUOTE="Melkari"]

Probably. However, that has no impact on whether it's the better game or not.

rybe1025

to lemmings everything revolves around sales lol

if you look at their game library I dont blame them.

You mean the same library that is better scoring then the PS3 library also bigger and more diverse? I guess it is easy for 360 fans to brag about buying software when the have the better library to choose from.

Better Line Up is based on opinion.
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#62 Lionheart08
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I say it now and you can qoute me on this,no matter how much better it is than more than NG2 it won't sell as much.

calvinx6

Sales > Quality am confrimed.

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#63 aaronmullan
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I don't play sales. I play games.
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#64 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="simslifer"]

to lemmings everything revolves around sales lol

if you look at their game library I dont blame them.

Nonstop-Madness

You mean the same library that is better scoring then the PS3 library also bigger and more diverse? I guess it is easy for 360 fans to brag about buying software when the have the better library to choose from.

Better Line Up is based on opinion.

Pretty much.

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#65 aaronmullan
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[QUOTE="calvinx6"]

I say it now and you can qoute me on this,no matter how much better it is than more than NG2 it won't sell as much.

Lionheart08

Sales > Quality am confrimed.

What does "am" mean? I've been meaning to ask this for a while.
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#66 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

[QUOTE="calvinx6"]

I say it now and you can qoute me on this,no matter how much better it is than more than NG2 it won't sell as much.

aaronmullan

Sales > Quality am confrimed.

What does "am" mean? I've been meaning to ask this for a while.

Seems like an internet meme so I did unitentionally. :P

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#67 Zaibach
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="simslifer"]

to lemmings everything revolves around sales lol

if you look at their game library I dont blame them.

Nonstop-Madness

You mean the same library that is better scoring then the PS3 library also bigger and more diverse? I guess it is easy for 360 fans to brag about buying software when the have the better library to choose from.

Better Line Up is based on opinion.

Dont provoke this guy or he'll be back with graphs and barcharts and so on, just let this thread die an undignified death.

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#68 aaronmullan
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Sales > Quality am confrimed.

Lionheart08

What does "am" mean? I've been meaning to ask this for a while.

Seems like an internet meme so I did unitentionally. :P

and I thought you would have all the answers :x :P
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#69 coltsfan4ever
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Sounds like somebody is jealous that Sigma 2 will be the game that NG2 should have been.

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#70 simslifer
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[QUOTE="simslifer"]

[QUOTE="Melkari"]

Probably. However, that has no impact on whether it's the better game or not.

rybe1025

to lemmings everything revolves around sales lol

if you look at their game library I dont blame them.

You mean the same library that is better scoring then the PS3 library also bigger and more diverse? I guess it is easy for 360 fans to brag about buying software when the have the better library to choose from.

360 hasn't scored an AAAE since last year Gears 2 compared to 1 AAAAE and 4 AAAE in a matter of months 2 this year while 360 has 0 this year.

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#71 MassiveKaos
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[QUOTE="DeadMagazines"]Cows never buy the supposed superior versions of their year old ports. Just look at bioshock and lost planet sales figures for ps3 :lol: Nonstop-Madness
Bioshock and Lost Planet were both horrific ports thats why people didnt buy them.

Bioshock was a horrific port? Cant tell if your being sarcastic or not.

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#72 treedoor
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Oh no sales.

The cows am cryin tonight :)

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#73 ermacness
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Oh no sales.

The cows am cryin tonight :)

treedoor

**looks at the ps3 09 software list so far**

**looks at the 360's 09 software list so far**

**laughs in treedoor's face**

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#74 treedoor
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[QUOTE="treedoor"]

Oh no sales.

The cows am cryin tonight :)

ermacness

**looks at the ps3 09 software list so far**

**looks at the 360's 09 software list so far**

**laughs in treedoor's face**

**Looks at entertainment center**

**doesn't see a 360**

**questions ermacness**

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#75 ItsBriskBaby
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As long as it's better then the first NG2 that's all that matters and from I've been reading and seeing it is. I should have never bought it for 360, live and learn though.

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#76 ItsBriskBaby
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[QUOTE="treedoor"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

Oh no sales.

The cows am cryin tonight :)

**looks at the ps3 09 software list so far**

**looks at the 360's 09 software list so far**

**laughs in treedoor's face**

**Looks at entertainment center**

**doesn't see a 360**

**questions ermacness**

**Buy a 360** **Buy a PS3** **Buy a Wii** **Always happy**:)
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#77 dream431ca
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I fail to see the point of this thread. Just another fanboy taking empty shots.

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#78 bobaban
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Both LP and Bioshock were on the PC, so I had no use for them on the PS3. NG2 was only on the 360. One of the few games I was actually wanting from their line up. So the many people who bought sigma will pick this up for sure seeing as that was a last gen game.
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#79 rybe1025
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="simslifer"]

to lemmings everything revolves around sales lol

if you look at their game library I dont blame them.

simslifer

You mean the same library that is better scoring then the PS3 library also bigger and more diverse? I guess it is easy for 360 fans to brag about buying software when the have the better library to choose from.

360 hasn't scored an AAAE since last year Gears 2 compared to 1 AAAAE and 4 AAAE in a matter of months 2 this year while 360 has 0 this year.

The AAAAE was not a matter of months ago. The 360 has more AAAE, AAE,AE games and if you add in the 360/PC games the 360 has 77 more AA and A games then PS3.
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#80 killerfist
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So...does that mean I don't get to play NGS2? :(
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#81 calvinx6
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[QUOTE="treedoor"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]**looks at the ps3 09 software list so far**

**looks at the 360's 09 software list so far**

**laughs in treedoor's face**

ItsBriskBaby

**Looks at entertainment center**

**doesn't see a 360**

**questions ermacness**

**Buy a 360** **Buy a PS3** **Buy a Wii** **Always happy**:)

This ladies and Gentle men is what you call OWNAGE.

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#82 2mrw
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thank god i didn't play the flawed x360 version,i will be getting the game for sure so will the 1 million NG2 owners who will now try to play the real NG2 not a flawed DEMO>>>>>> sales will exceed 1.5 million, and you can quote me on that.

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#83 Kashiwaba
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Well since bayonneta got delayed till Q1 2010 guess I will get NGS2 since I still didnt play NG2 though I didnt play the first one but the CO OP mode in NGS2 is intresting me.

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[QUOTE="DeadMagazines"]Cows never buy the supposed superior versions of their year old ports. Just look at bioshock and lost planet sales figures for ps3 :lol: AgentA-Mi6
This should be kinda different then Because its a remake, not a port of Ninja Gaiden 2.

In what way is it not a port? The only thing they've done is added a new feature, a couple of new characters and some weapons. Perhaps an extra boss and some enemies. It's not like it's a remake more like an update.
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#85 badlalo59
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If this game continues with the bad camera angles and having to use the RT to make it change then the prediction the OP has will come to pass.

The camera is THE ONLY THING that kept (IMO of course) NG2 from greatness...shame the Dev's didn't learn from the original on Xbox

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#86 Phazevariance
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[QUOTE="badlalo59"]

If this game continues with the bad camera angles and having to use the RT to make it change then the prediction the OP has will come to pass.

The camera is THE ONLY THING that kept (IMO of course) NG2 from greatness...shame the Dev's didn't learn from the original on Xbox

Not jsut the camera, the games (NG1 and NG2) were great fun besides the camera, but the level design in NG1 was way better.
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#87 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Couth_"]That's a given. Don't all NG games flop in sales?calvinx6

NG2 sold over 1 million copies.

Actually, it didn't.
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#88 mitu123
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="DeadMagazines"]Cows never buy the supposed superior versions of their year old ports. Just look at bioshock and lost planet sales figures for ps3 :lol: Gamingcucumber
This should be kinda different then Because its a remake, not a port of Ninja Gaiden 2.

In what way is it not a port? The only thing they've done is added a new feature, a couple of new characters and some weapons. Perhaps an extra boss and some enemies. It's not like it's a remake more like an update.

Don't forget co-op and more levels.
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#89 Hexagon_777
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I say it now and you can qoute me on this,no matter how much better it is than more than NG2 it won't sell as much.calvinx6

Good thing that there are loads of people here in System Wars that remind us that sales do not dictate the quality of a game. :)

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Lol OT but me and my friends just watched all 50 episodes of that Code Geass show in your avatar this weekend and my friend's name is Calvin.
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#91 bobaban
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[QUOTE="calvinx6"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"]That's a given. Don't all NG games flop in sales?Chutebox

NG2 sold over 1 million copies.

Actually, it didn't.

Sigma did though. So that's probably why they're releasing it on the PS3.
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#92 double_heist
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I wonder how pimplegaki felt when NG went to the PS3. :P