Ninja Gaiden II a flawed jewel?? - EDGE PREVIEW

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="silentobi"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="silentobi"]Holy Crap! Did you even played the game? :shock:silentobi

I have it for Xbox and bought it again for PS3, your point? Recentering puts the camera on your character, it doesn't put it where you necessarily want it. Recentering does nothing to fix the camera issues.

When you put the focus back on Ryu by pressing 1 button you can now get a better few of your surroundings. Just remember to block.

Often the camera is too zoomed in and the problem is all you can see is Ryu. And it doesn't turn around to face the enemy. Remember the room on the airship with the cargo containers on the far wall and the people coming in the windows? That scene the camera was so frustrating. You can never tell what windows the enemy is coming in from. The only way you know where they are is because they are shooting at you. Same with the boss on the horse, you have no idea where he is half the time. Yeah I can "block" and wait for him to come into view but that's an excuse not a solution.

The horse brought me to tears at my first attempts...had nothing to do with the camera though lol.

The horse brought me to tears at my first attempts...had nothing to do with the camera though lol.

ToScA-

Lol same here, but it was no problem once I learned to draw essecne from the mages.

I cleared both the Airship battle and the Fire horse boss without even getting hurt. Guess what I did....?silentobi

You made Ryu sit there like a wussy with the block button held down until the enemy got close enough that they were within view. Just admit it, the camera is something they could work on. Nobody is saying the game sucks or anything just that they could improve the camera. And that is 100% true.

[QUOTE="silentobi"] I cleared both the Airship battle and the Fire horse boss without even getting hurt. Guess what I did....?EmperorSupreme

You made Ryu sit there like a wussy with the block button held down until the enemy got close enough that they were within view. Just admit it, the camera is something they could work on. Nobody is saying the game sucks or anything just that they could improve the camera. And that is 100% true.

Nope you face Ryu where you want to look and hit the right trigger. Takes all of one half second.

The horse brought me to tears at my first attempts...had nothing to do with the camera though lol.

ToScA-

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="silentobi"] I cleared both the Airship battle and the Fire horse boss without even getting hurt. Guess what I did....?TOAO_Cyrus1

You made Ryu sit there like a wussy with the block button held down until the enemy got close enough that they were within view. Just admit it, the camera is something they could work on. Nobody is saying the game sucks or anything just that they could improve the camera. And that is 100% true.

Nope you face Ryu where you want to look and hit the right trigger. Takes all of one half second.

That's too long in Ninja Gaiden. :lol:

[QUOTE="silentobi"]I cleared both the Airship battle and the Fire horse boss without even getting hurt. Guess what I did....?EmperorSupreme

You made Ryu sit there like a wussy with the block button held down until the enemy got close enough that they were within view. Just admit it, the camera is something they could work on. Nobody is saying the game sucks or anything just that they could improve the camera. And that is 100% true.

[QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="silentobi"] I cleared both the Airship battle and the Fire horse boss without even getting hurt. Guess what I did....?EmperorSupreme

You made Ryu sit there like a wussy with the block button held down until the enemy got close enough that they were within view. Just admit it, the camera is something they could work on. Nobody is saying the game sucks or anything just that they could improve the camera. And that is 100% true.

Nope you face Ryu where you want to look and hit the right trigger. Takes all of one half second.

That's too long in Ninja Gaiden. :lol:

It doesnt take you out of the action at all. You always want to be facing the enemies anyway and hitting the right trigger doesnt take your fingers off the block and attack buttons.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="silentobi"]I cleared both the Airship battle and the Fire horse boss without even getting hurt. Guess what I did....?silentobi

You made Ryu sit there like a wussy with the block button held down until the enemy got close enough that they were within view. Just admit it, the camera is something they could work on. Nobody is saying the game sucks or anything just that they could improve the camera. And that is 100% true.

Not change the camera. Fix it.

If Mario Galaxy can find a way to do away with the second analog stick camera control than whats NG2's excuse?

Sounds like developer laziness to me.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="silentobi"] I cleared both the Airship battle and the Fire horse boss without even getting hurt. Guess what I did....?TOAO_Cyrus1

You made Ryu sit there like a wussy with the block button held down until the enemy got close enough that they were within view. Just admit it, the camera is something they could work on. Nobody is saying the game sucks or anything just that they could improve the camera. And that is 100% true.

Nope you face Ryu where you want to look and hit the right trigger. Takes all of one half second.

That's too long in Ninja Gaiden. :lol:

It doesnt take you out of the action at all. You always want to be facing the enemies anyway and hitting the right trigger doesnt take your fingers off the block and attack buttons.

You found a way around the problem. That doesn't mean their isn't a problem.

[QUOTE="silentobi"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="silentobi"]I cleared both the Airship battle and the Fire horse boss without even getting hurt. Guess what I did....?Bread_or_Decide

You made Ryu sit there like a wussy with the block button held down until the enemy got close enough that they were within view. Just admit it, the camera is something they could work on. Nobody is saying the game sucks or anything just that they could improve the camera. And that is 100% true.

Not change the camera. Fix it.

If Mario Galaxy can find a way to do away with the second analog stick camera control than whats NG2's excuse?

Sounds like developer laziness to me.

With Mario Galaxy they designed the levels extremly open so there are no obsticles for the camera, or if there were they went into a fixed side view. This abvously cant be done in Ninja Gaiden.

[QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

[QUOTE="silentobi"] I cleared both the Airship battle and the Fire horse boss without even getting hurt. Guess what I did....?Bread_or_Decide

You made Ryu sit there like a wussy with the block button held down until the enemy got close enough that they were within view. Just admit it, the camera is something they could work on. Nobody is saying the game sucks or anything just that they could improve the camera. And that is 100% true.

Nope you face Ryu where you want to look and hit the right trigger. Takes all of one half second.

That's too long in Ninja Gaiden. :lol:

It doesnt take you out of the action at all. You always want to be facing the enemies anyway and hitting the right trigger doesnt take your fingers off the block and attack buttons.

You found a way around the problem. That doesn't mean their isn't a problem.

Its not a problem, almost all games of this type require players to control the camera and Ninja Gaiden actually takes the least effort. Also its not a work around its how the devs intended it to work.

The camera is always an issue in these type of games (just like DMC and GoW), they like the 'cinematic' look which captures the action in the most sty1ish way possible; at the gamers expense. :)

If the camera's the only issue (which is nothing new), then I wouldn't be worried.

With Mario Galaxy they designed the levels extremly open so there are no obsticles for the camera, or if there were they went into a fixed side view. This abvously cant be done in Ninja Gaiden.

TOAO_Cyrus1

Can't or won't? The only limits are the imaginations of the devs. Perhaps than Ninja Gaiden shouldn't have such enclosed levels if it can't handle it.

[QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"]

With Mario Galaxy they designed the levels extremly open so there are no obsticles for the camera, or if there were they went into a fixed side view. This abvously cant be done in Ninja Gaiden.

Bread_or_Decide

Can't or won't? The only limits are the imaginations of the devs. Perhaps than Ninja Gaiden shouldn't have such enclosed levels if it can't handle it.

Imagine Ninja Gaiden with Mario Galaxy type levels. It wouldnt work. Galaxy's camera is alse extremly zoomed out which would break the fighting system which relies on precision.

[QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"]

With Mario Galaxy they designed the levels extremly open so there are no obsticles for the camera, or if there were they went into a fixed side view. This abvously cant be done in Ninja Gaiden.

Bread_or_Decide

Can't or won't? The only limits are the imaginations of the devs. Perhaps than Ninja Gaiden shouldn't have such enclosed levels if it can't handle it.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="TOAO_Cyrus1"]

With Mario Galaxy they designed the levels extremly open so there are no obsticles for the camera, or if there were they went into a fixed side view. This abvously cant be done in Ninja Gaiden.

silentobi

Can't or won't? The only limits are the imaginations of the devs. Perhaps than Ninja Gaiden shouldn't have such enclosed levels if it can't handle it.

I gave MGS a hard time with the fixed camera in part 3. Its a legitimate criticism. Take that "hardcore" gameplayer crap somewhere else.

NG on xbox was great, even with its flawed camera .. it got a good score here too

i expect the same thing to happen with NG2

People always complain about the camera in NG games. I never had a problem with them. Well not in combat anyway. The platforming sections were a bit difficult because of the camera. But since 99% of the game is fighting it was never a big deal to me.

Gaara79

Not change the camera. Fix it.

If Mario Galaxy can find a way to do away with the second analog stick camera control than whats NG2's excuse?

Sounds like developer laziness to me.