Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 Announced for the PS3

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#51 strudel420
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This is completely unexpected. :lol:

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[QUOTE="MightyMuna"]more so, if NG2 really is coming to PS3, expect MS big surprise at E3 to be, MGS4: Sub to Xbox 360 (and PS3). Timstuff

Tecmo and Konami are not the same company.

Also, I'm pretty sure the reason why you'll never see MGS4 on Xbox 360 is because Konami wants to push their POS proprietary online platform with the game, and Microsoft would try to make them use Xbox Live (not saying Metal Gear Online ain't great, but I seriously hate having to go through Konami's service to play it).

I think Konami will keel over Why develop a non-tested title when they can put a small team on porting Metal Gear Solid 4 to the 360 for a guaranteed high amount of sales.
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[QUOTE="daveg1"]i hope its going to be 1080p like sigma 1..the version the 360 got was a low res mess i really dissapointed with it..Chutebox
Pretty sure it wasn't notice 1080p.

dont you mean "native" ?? it was pretty close if it wasnt 1920x1080p i think it was something 1200x1080p which still looked very sharp and close to full hd..
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#54 Silenthps
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and there went any reason for me to buy a 360...
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#55 stayhigh1
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I am really excited for Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 for the PS3..I know they will make it better then NG2 ..Better Graphics and framrates and etc,

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="daveg1"]i hope its going to be 1080p like sigma 1..the version the 360 got was a low res mess i really dissapointed with it..daveg1
Pretty sure it wasn't notice 1080p.

dont you mean "native" ?? it was pretty close if it wasnt 1920x1080p i think it was something 1200x1080p which still looked very sharp and close to full hd..

Yea native...what the hell was I think when typed that lol.
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#57 stayhigh1
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and there went any reason for me to buy a 360...Silenthps
mass effect and left4dead?? and ithere wont be any more reason to buy a 360..
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

[QUOTE="MightyMuna"]more so, if NG2 really is coming to PS3, expect MS big surprise at E3 to be, MGS4: Sub to Xbox 360 (and PS3). Toriko42

Tecmo and Konami are not the same company.

Also, I'm pretty sure the reason why you'll never see MGS4 on Xbox 360 is because Konami wants to push their POS proprietary online platform with the game, and Microsoft would try to make them use Xbox Live (not saying Metal Gear Online ain't great, but I seriously hate having to go through Konami's service to play it).

I think Konami will keel over Why develop a non-tested title when they can put a small team on porting Metal Gear Solid 4 to the 360 for a guaranteed high amount of sales.

Guaranteed? They've tried that before and it didn't work at all.

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[QUOTE="daveg1"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Pretty sure it wasn't notice 1080p.Chutebox
dont you mean "native" ?? it was pretty close if it wasnt 1920x1080p i think it was something 1200x1080p which still looked very sharp and close to full hd..

Yea native...what the hell was I think when typed that lol.

i have no idea lol
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#60 Chutebox  Online
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

I just saw another HQ scan on Ps3 forums, and if that's fake someone did a damn good job.

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Is it the "April" edition... do the Japanese pull off April Fools pranks?

Good question, but I have no clue!
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]

Tecmo and Konami are not the same company.

Also, I'm pretty sure the reason why you'll never see MGS4 on Xbox 360 is because Konami wants to push their POS proprietary online platform with the game, and Microsoft would try to make them use Xbox Live (not saying Metal Gear Online ain't great, but I seriously hate having to go through Konami's service to play it).

Chutebox

I think Konami will keel over Why develop a non-tested title when they can put a small team on porting Metal Gear Solid 4 to the 360 for a guaranteed high amount of sales.

Guaranteed? They've tried that before and it didn't work at all.

Metal gear solid 4 on the 360 will suck..There be like over 4 disks..lol.. and everyone know how the 360 isnt powerful enough to run it..
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and there went any reason for me to buy a 360...Silenthps
agreed. it was the only reason for me to get an Xbox 360. I was planning one getting one in June, but not any more. maybe if Ninja Blade turns out to be good.

I am really excited for Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 for the PS3..I know they will make it better then NG2 ..Better Graphics and framrates and etc,

stayhigh1
me too, I'm super excited. I live for NG-DMC-GoW type games.
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#63 Toriko42
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and there went any reason for me to buy a 360...Silenthps
Like you were going to buy a 360 for Ninja Gaiden 2 anyway. PS3 has lot way worse exclusives ie Final Fantasy and GTA.

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#64 stayhigh1
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It shows how third party games cant be trusted..and Sony know this from the start thats why they got so many exclusive games...There first party games is unstoppable.

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#65 Chutebox  Online
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It shows how third party games cant be trusted..and Sony know this from the start thats why they got so many exclusive games...There first party games is unstoppable.

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It's funny how Sony got one part of the equation right, and the other so wrong. Depending on 1st/2nd party games this gen is best strategy. Starting price of $500 - $600 system is worst strategy.
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It shows how third party games cant be trusted..and Sony know this from the start thats why they got so many exclusive games...There first party games is unstoppable.

stayhigh1
Yep, Sony decimates Microsoft when it comes to first party titles. Also I see some people in this thread have already started the damage control :D
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

I just saw another HQ scan on Ps3 forums, and if that's fake someone did a damn good job.

Chutebox
Is it the "April" edition... do the Japanese pull off April Fools pranks?

Good question, but I have no clue!

Well, shoot! Someone's got'sta! This has got to be a prank. Has to be! :P
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="Toriko42"] I think Konami will keel over Why develop a non-tested title when they can put a small team on porting Metal Gear Solid 4 to the 360 for a guaranteed high amount of sales. stayhigh1

Guaranteed? They've tried that before and it didn't work at all.

Metal gear solid 4 on the 360 will suck..There be like over 4 disks..lol.. and everyone know how the 360 isnt powerful enough to run it..

Sure i'm pretty sure the 360 can't run a game that isn't even 720p runs below 30fps and has 0 antialiasing.
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

[QUOTE="MightyMuna"]more so, if NG2 really is coming to PS3, expect MS big surprise at E3 to be, MGS4: Sub to Xbox 360 (and PS3). Toriko42

Tecmo and Konami are not the same company.

Also, I'm pretty sure the reason why you'll never see MGS4 on Xbox 360 is because Konami wants to push their POS proprietary online platform with the game, and Microsoft would try to make them use Xbox Live (not saying Metal Gear Online ain't great, but I seriously hate having to go through Konami's service to play it).

I think Konami will keel over Why develop a non-tested title when they can put a small team on porting Metal Gear Solid 4 to the 360 for a guaranteed high amount of sales.

Historically, the MGS franchise has had very little appeal to non-fans, and there are VERY few (if any) MGS fans who do not own a PS3 and MGS4. Konami's only hope to reap a profit with a 360 MGS4 port would be to try and sell it almost entirely to non-fans, which is a losing proposition. They've tried selling MGS to non-fans before, and it didn't end well. MGSTTS had fair performance, but considering it was one for Gamecube's biggest titles that year, it didn't meet expectations in terms of sales. As for MGS2 on Xbox-- it was a complete disaster. It sold so badly that Konami didn't even bother releasing a bargain bin version under the Platinum hits Label, and instead just took it out of print! There's really no getting around it-- MGS has always sold well on the Playstation family of consoles, and this generation has been no exception. HOWEVER, there has yet to be an MGS title on another console brand that has made any real waves. Even the PC port of MGS wasn't that popular, and it was a much nicer package than its Playstation counterpart (it was a port of MGS Integral, which never came out in the US for PSX). Konami just doesn't have much to gain by porting MGS4, because their biggest and most important customer demographic already has it-- the fans.
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i hope its going to be 1080p like sigma 1..the version the 360 got was a low res mess i really dissapointed with it..daveg1


Sigma was in 720p, NG2 was rendered in a res lower than 720p though but with 2x AA.

Oh and here's a scan.

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oh great. lemme guess it's exclusive to PS3? what is wrong with tecmo. either make your games multiplat form or stick to one console. looks like I have to buy a PS3 now. lmao.
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oh great. lemme guess it's exclusive to PS3? what is wrong with tecmo. either make your games multiplat form or stick to one console. looks like I have to buy a PS3 now. lmao.Great_Ragnarok

Why, it's pratically the same game?

Unless you're a NG fanatic?

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Great news for the PS3, I guess.

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#74 SeanDiff
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LOL...... yeah M$ is gonna publish a game and then release it on their rival's console...... makes sense in SW maybe.

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It's Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2.
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[QUOTE="Great_Ragnarok"]oh great. lemme guess it's exclusive to PS3? what is wrong with tecmo. either make your games multiplat form or stick to one console. looks like I have to buy a PS3 now. lmao.Chutebox

Why, it's pratically the same game?

Unless you're a NG fanatic?

thats the thing! I'm an NG fanatic! XD seriously I love this game. I really hope they will bring this game to the PC! this game deserves to be played on a system with a sweeeet graphics card XD but yeah if this is PS3 only I will go mad at tecmo!
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#76 TreyoftheDead
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Sweet! :D

I do hope it's true and not an April Fools joke. I really need to go pick up Sigma since my original X-Box died before I ever beat NGB. I've been meaning to, but going through all of the hard stuff again frightens me. :P

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It will be great if Sigma 2 does come out, but is deemed so different from NG2 that it's a PS3 exclusive, then scores a 9.0. Comedy gold right there.
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]

Tecmo and Konami are not the same company.

Also, I'm pretty sure the reason why you'll never see MGS4 on Xbox 360 is because Konami wants to push their POS proprietary online platform with the game, and Microsoft would try to make them use Xbox Live (not saying Metal Gear Online ain't great, but I seriously hate having to go through Konami's service to play it).

Timstuff

I think Konami will keel over Why develop a non-tested title when they can put a small team on porting Metal Gear Solid 4 to the 360 for a guaranteed high amount of sales.

Historically, the MGS franchise has had very little appeal to non-fans, and there are VERY few (if any) MGS fans who do not own a PS3 and MGS4. Konami's only hope to reap a profit with a 360 MGS4 port would be to try and sell it almost entirely to non-fans, which is a losing proposition. They've tried selling MGS to non-fans before, and it didn't end well. MGSTTS had fair performance, but considering it was one for Gamecube's biggest titles that year, it didn't meet expectations in terms of sales. As for MGS2 on Xbox-- it was a complete disaster. It sold so badly that Konami didn't even bother releasing a bargain bin version under the Platinum hits Label, and instead just took it out of print! There's really no getting around it-- MGS has always sold well on the Playstation family of consoles, and this generation has been no exception. HOWEVER, there has yet to be an MGS title on another console brand that has made any real waves. Even the PC port of MGS wasn't that popular, and it was a much nicer package than its Playstation counterpart (it was a port of MGS Integral, which never came out in the US for PSX). Konami just doesn't have much to gain by porting MGS4, because their biggest and most important customer demographic already has it-- the fans.

True enough, I sadly am one of the many fans though without a PS3 who played and loved MGS4 many times and would like to actually own a copy Borrowing PS3's to play it, renting PS3's for it, it gets tiring.

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Finally cows can rightfully acknowledge Ninga gaiden as the better action game that it is.
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#80 masiisam
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Nice...I really enjoyed NG2...If true.... I would like to see if they added anything different for the PS3 version...maybe not a purchase...but a 2 week rentel would be in order

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[QUOTE="Toriko42"]I just did some research on this and I'm calling this out for being false Ninja Gaiden Sigma was made from a game that was a third party exclusive Ninja Gaiden II however is published by Microsoft Game Studios...Why would they allow for a port to be made?GreenGoblin2099

Ninja Gaiden II published by M$ doesn't mean anything.

With a few tweaks in the content they can say it's a different game, thus SIGMA... Same thing happened with RE4 for the PS2, Capcom added stuff to make it "different".

But a duck is a duck is a duck. Microsoft could still rail Tecmo for breach of contract for publishing what is basically the game in question with additional bells and whistles on an outside platform. That is, of course, unless the exclusivity agreement specifically allows for this scenario. Does Microsoft publish NG2 outside of North America or does Tecmo? If this article is genuine, perhaps NGS2 will be Japan-only.
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"]I just did some research on this and I'm calling this out for being false Ninja Gaiden Sigma was made from a game that was a third party exclusive Ninja Gaiden II however is published by Microsoft Game Studios...Why would they allow for a port to be made?Couth_
Even if M$ published it they do not own the IP. As long as Tecmo can get the funding for it they can do whatever they want with it

It all depends on the terms of the publishing. You can't state the standard aspects of a publishing deal when they all differ by contract.

If Microsoft funded game development, they may have some stake in NG2 specifically, (not the franchise). If thats the case, Tecmo may not be able to straight port it to PS3. They would have to remake it with some changes and call it Sigma II.

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[QUOTE="daveg1"]i hope its going to be 1080p like sigma 1..the version the 360 got was a low res mess i really dissapointed with it..ZimpanX



Sigma was in 720p, NG2 was rendered in a res lower than 720p though but with 2x AA.

Oh and here's a scan.

If thats fake then thats one great fake scan.

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Great news!! Now PS3 owners will be able to enjoy NG2. Not as good as the older NG games, but still worth having. VIOLENCE = FTW! :D

Oh, if they could just fix the game a bit. The frame rate, slightly enhanced graphics, less projectile spamming and if possible - more levels that are'nt so generic. I sometimes wish they could take the violence of this game and slap it on the original NG and NGB on the XBOX. But hardware...

sigh.

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If you look at the facts closely, it isn't really that surprising that this has been announced. I've expected it since Itagaki left Tecmo. It also proves the point that unless the company physically owns the IP, anything could happen to it. Now everyone's attention heads towards Mass Effect and even Gears of War.

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Check this out. Its Wikipedia, but just check the bottom of the page.

Pretty cool info. Yes, I know its Wikipedia dammit!!!

Here more info! (from Kotaku) Ayane is a playable character.

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[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="Toriko42"]I just did some research on this and I'm calling this out for being false Ninja Gaiden Sigma was made from a game that was a third party exclusive Ninja Gaiden II however is published by Microsoft Game Studios...Why would they allow for a port to be made?Blue-Sky

Even if M$ published it they do not own the IP. As long as Tecmo can get the funding for it they can do whatever they want with it

It all depends on the terms of the publishing. You can't state the standard aspects of a publishing deal when they all differ by contract.

If Microsoft funded game development, they may have some stake in NG2 specifically, (not the franchise). If thats the case, Tecmo may not be able to straight port it to PS3. They would have to remake it with some changes and call it Sigma II.

Who publishes NG2 outside North America? Is it Tecmo or Microsoft?

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If they add more stuff and make it like a NG 2.5 then i'd buy a ps3 just for this, forget Killzone2 and uncharted2, its all about Ninja gaiden 2 baby.

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well its April, so i wouldnt take that seriously
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I was gonna get it for the 360, but if this is real, I'll just get this version, just like the first version of the first 3D NG I've gotten is also Sigma.
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well its April, so i wouldnt take that seriouslyDante2710

Kotaku confirms it. More content, PSN support and Ayane as playable character. But if it is a joke, its gonna be a very disappointing one too lol

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#92 Yongying
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"]well its April, so i wouldnt take that seriouslyfend_oblivion

Kotaku confirms it. More content, PSN support and Ayane as playable character. But if it is a joke, its gonna be a very disappointing one too lol

I'm guessing the PSN support would be leaderboards or similar, but, but, but, if they added a co-op, and/or a versus mode then i would probably die of a heart attack. :D

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#93 Dante2710
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"]well its April, so i wouldnt take that seriouslyfend_oblivion

Kotaku confirms it. More content, PSN support and Ayane as playable character. But if it is a joke, its gonna be a very disappointing one too lol

all right, thats better
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Finally cows can rightfully acknowledge Ninga gaiden as the better action game that it is.byge
lay off the booze...everyone knows GoW is the best action game on the market :D
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[QUOTE="fend_oblivion"]

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]well its April, so i wouldnt take that seriouslyYongying

Kotaku confirms it. More content, PSN support and Ayane as playable character. But if it is a joke, its gonna be a very disappointing one too lol

I'm guessing the PSN support would be leaderboards or similar, but, but, but, if they added a co-op, and/or a versus mode then i would probably die of a heart attack. :D

I'm betting its a 5$ downloadable content for costumes... for Ayane ;)

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#96 Great_Ragnarok
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[QUOTE="byge"]Finally cows can rightfully acknowledge Ninga gaiden as the better action game that it is.II_Seraphim_II
lay off the booze...everyone knows GoW is the best action game on the market :D

lmao no! GoW is feels very shallow compared to NG2. both are loads fun tho!
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#97 TreyoftheDead
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"]well its April, so i wouldnt take that seriouslyfend_oblivion

Kotaku confirms it. More content, PSN support and Ayane as playable character. But if it is a joke, its gonna be a very disappointing one too lol

Win!

This is an exclusive I'm actually glad the 360 lost. :P I no longer have my 360 and this just gives me one less reason not to blow my money on another one. :D

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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="byge"]Finally cows can rightfully acknowledge Ninga gaiden as the better action game that it is.Great_Ragnarok
lay off the booze...everyone knows GoW is the best action game on the market :D

lmao no! GoW is feels very shallow compared to NG2. both are loads fun tho!

Exactly. Kratos meet Ryu. Again.

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#99 Generalmojo
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not a fan :(

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#100 50u1r34v3r
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

This makes me want to try Sigma , but I'm scared it is too much for me. I heard only 5% of the people who played NG/NG Sigma actually go on to beat it. The ones who getpretty farand don't finish end up in a straight jacket and a padded cell somewhere.

finalfantasy94

The game is hard....very hard. You will curse at your screen and almost break your controllers. I wanted to throw mine out the dam window. I did eventualy beat sigma and teabaged my tv in victory and screamed "HOW YOU LIKE ME NOW!!!". NG2 is a push over compared to the hell sigma put me through.

Let me guess, you are refering to acolyte or warrior mode right?