Nintendo 3DS graphic upgrade from ds/PSP is amazing.

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#1 SiKh22
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MGS looks great, almost close to the ps2.

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#2 789shadow
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It looks epic.

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#3 tomarlyn
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It looks better than the PS2 version
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#4 emorainbo
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Does anyone have a link showcasing the 3DS. I never saw it. In fact the only thing from E3 I have seen was the MS press conference :lol:...:cry:

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#5 SiKh22
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Does anyone have a link showcasing the 3DS. I never saw it. In fact the only thing from E3 I have seen was the MS press conference :lol:...:cry:

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http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/3ds-metal-gear-solid-3d/345808?playlist=featured
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Yeah haha games are so grat
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Yeah haha games are so gratGotTheDeets
This post made me literally LOL

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#8 VendettaRed07
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well remember that they have to render the game twice to get the 3D effect so we dont know how powerful the 3DS really is unless someone makes a 2D only game or we get the tech specs xD

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3DS Metal Gear

3DS MGS

I'm sorry- did the meaning of the word "amazing" change since I left the US? I didn't realize it now meant, "marginally better, at best."

The difference is PS2 ---> GCN graphics. Yes, the 3DS is probably stronger, but not significantly so.

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I hope the 3DS doesn't go the "PSP route" now that Nintendo has decided to power up their handheld.

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#11 Zero5000X
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But is it going to be better than the PSP3D?
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#12 Ragnarok1051
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Compared to the DS yes the upgrade is amazing, but compared to the PSP it isn't that great.

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#13 VendettaRed07
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I hope the 3DS doesn't go the "PSP route" now that Nintendo has decided to power up their handheld.

GreySeal9

I doubt it.. Plus its sticking with the carts so no load times which was half the reason why so many psp games just felt so.. i dunno. Not handheld like

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#14 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I hope the 3DS doesn't go the "PSP route" now that Nintendo has decided to power up their handheld.

VendettaRed07

I doubt it.. Plus its sticking with the carts so no load times which was half the reason why so many psp games just felt so.. i dunno. Not handheld like

That's encouraging (I agree that load times are one of the main culprits behind the PSP feeling unappealing). At the moment, I'm playing alot of DS in addition to playing on my PS3 because it feels pretty unique so I'd be really dissapointed if they did take the PSP approach. But I guess Nintendo knows what they're doing as they've always dominated in the handheld arena.

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#15 tomarlyn
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3DS Metal Gear

I'm sorry- did the meaning of the word "amazing" change since I left the US? I didn't realize it now meant, "marginally better, at best."

The difference is PS2 ---> GCN graphics. Yes, the 3DS is probably stronger, but not significantly so.

LongZhiZi

The Gamecube has significantly better graphics than the PS2, wash your eyes.

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#16 tomarlyn
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I hope the 3DS doesn't go the "PSP route" now that Nintendo has decided to power up their handheld.

GreySeal9
What would be the PSP route? Console quality games on a handheld? The GBA did that, as well as a lot of DS games.
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#17 SakusEnvoy
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People who claim the 3DS graphics are equal to or better than the PS2 version should try watching the PS2 game on a 3.5" screen first...

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#18 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I hope the 3DS doesn't go the "PSP route" now that Nintendo has decided to power up their handheld.

tomarlyn
What would be the PSP route? Console quality games on a handheld? The GBA did that, as well as a lot of DS games.

I thought nintendo fans didn't want console games on their handheld. :P
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#19 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I hope the 3DS doesn't go the "PSP route" now that Nintendo has decided to power up their handheld.

tomarlyn

What would be the PSP route? Console quality games on a handheld? The GBA did that, as well as a lot of DS games.

Not console quality, but rather console parroting.

I never really got into the GBA, but the DS feels radically different from what I get when playing my PS3. Ninja Gaiden DS is a good example of this.

Of course there will be some examples of console-like games on the DS, but by and large it feels like a unique experience.

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#20 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I hope the 3DS doesn't go the "PSP route" now that Nintendo has decided to power up their handheld.

What would be the PSP route? Console quality games on a handheld? The GBA did that, as well as a lot of DS games.

I thought nintendo fans didn't want console games on their handheld. :P

I'm not your typical ''Nintendo fan'', at least not here anyway :) I enjoy both full blown big titles and casual pick up & play experiences on handhelds. when it comes to consoles themselves its a different story.
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#21 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I hope the 3DS doesn't go the "PSP route" now that Nintendo has decided to power up their handheld.

What would be the PSP route? Console quality games on a handheld? The GBA did that, as well as a lot of DS games.

Not console quality, but rather console parroting.

I never really got into the GBA, but the DS feels radically different from what I get when playing my PS3. Ninja Gaiden DS is a good example of this.

Of course there will be some examples of console-like games on the DS, but by and large it feels like a unique experience.

''console parroting'', good description there I suppose.
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#22 Rikusaki
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Much, much better than the PSP.

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#23 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"] What would be the PSP route? Console quality games on a handheld? The GBA did that, as well as a lot of DS games.tomarlyn
I thought nintendo fans didn't want console games on their handheld. :P

I'm not your typical ''Nintendo fan'', at least not here anyway :) I enjoy both full blown big titles and casual pick up & play experiences on handhelds. when it comes to consoles themselves its a different story.

I wasn't referring to you just pointing out something funny. :)
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#24 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] I thought nintendo fans didn't want console games on their handheld. :PRagnarok1051
I'm not your typical ''Nintendo fan'', at least not here anyway :) I enjoy both full blown big titles and casual pick up & play experiences on handhelds. when it comes to consoles themselves its a different story.

I wasn't referring to you just pointing out something funny. :)

Oh, ok. In that case are you also surprised that sheep aren't calling it a handheld for graphics whores? Like they do with the 360 and PS3? I mean its just a DS with an analogue stick, more power and 3D isn't it? :lol:
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I hope the 3DS doesn't go the "PSP route" now that Nintendo has decided to power up their handheld.

VendettaRed07

I doubt it.. Plus its sticking with the carts so no load times which was half the reason why so many psp games just felt so.. i dunno. Not handheld like

Yeah, when you're just looking for something to keep you occupied for a few minutes the last thing you want to do is stare at a load screen for a fair portion of that time.

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#26 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"] I'm not your typical ''Nintendo fan'', at least not here anyway :) I enjoy both full blown big titles and casual pick up & play experiences on handhelds. when it comes to consoles themselves its a different story.tomarlyn
I wasn't referring to you just pointing out something funny. :)

Oh, ok. In that case are you also surprised that sheep aren't calling it a handheld for graphics whores? Like they do with the 360 and PS3? I mean its just a DS with an analogue stick, more power and 3D isn't it? :lol:

Yes I find it quite funny that graphics do matter now just as much as how forward most of them are looking to decade old ports.
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I heard Animal Crossing on the 3DS looked better than the Wii version.

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#28 LegatoSkyheart
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*image*

Much, much better than the PSP.

Rikusaki

That's a comparison!

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#29 wolverine4262
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3DS Metal Gear

I'm sorry- did the meaning of the word "amazing" change since I left the US? I didn't realize it now meant, "marginally better, at best."

The difference is PS2 ---> GCN graphics. Yes, the 3DS is probably stronger, but not significantly so.

LongZhiZi

You are comparing an extremey early demo of a game for a system not available until next year to a full release game for a system that has had a few years to get its capabilities tested. AND even still it looks quite a bit better.

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#30 Crystal-Rush
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Good unbiased comparison Rikusaki, unlike LongZhiZi shots in which he chose the worst possible screen he could get. I'm really liking that next gen sheen on MGS 3D. This will most likely be an early release so hopefully it will only get better.
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I heard Animal Crossing on the 3DS looked better than the Wii version.

AmayaPapaya

I don't know why but that made me laugh really loud.

I wonder what kind of visuals the 3DS could pump out if it didn't have to render 3d :shock: MGS3D looks f'in great, wonder if they'll be able to get some AA in there cause it could really use some lol.

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[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

I heard Animal Crossing on the 3DS looked better than the Wii version.

ChubbyGuy40

I don't know why but that made me laugh really loud.

I wonder what kind of visuals the 3DS could pump out if it didn't have to render 3d :shock: MGS3D looks f'in great, wonder if they'll be able to get some AA in there cause it could really use some lol.

aliasing may be less pronounced in 3D...

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3DS Metal Gear

3DS MGS

I'm sorry- did the meaning of the word "amazing" change since I left the US? I didn't realize it now meant, "marginally better, at best."

The difference is PS2 ---> GCN graphics. Yes, the 3DS is probably stronger, but not significantly so.

LongZhiZi

So the 3DS performs marginally better ( I think that's an understatement) at release than the psp does at it's peak. Considering the psp is somewhere between the ps1 and the ps2 in terms of power, that signifies great things for the 3DS.

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[QUOTE="LongZhiZi"]

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3DS Metal Gear

3DS MGS

I'm sorry- did the meaning of the word "amazing" change since I left the US? I didn't realize it now meant, "marginally better, at best."

The difference is PS2 ---> GCN graphics. Yes, the 3DS is probably stronger, but not significantly so.

Filthybastrd

So the 3DS performs marginally better ( I think that's an understatement) at release than the psp does at it's peak. Considering the psp is somewhere between the ps1 and the ps2 in terms of power, that signifies great things for the 3DS.

It looks a lot better, take a look at the details, there kind of hard to point out but their there.

the 3DS is as strong or maybe better than the Gamecube, and the gamecube was the strongest system in terms of visuals last gen.

The reason why it never showed was because the disks for the gamecube were smaller and could only hold so much.

The games for the 3DS are nearly in a demo state, give the developers time to actually achieve some great games, give or take a good 3-4 months.

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I hope the 3DS doesn't go the "PSP route" now that Nintendo has decided to power up their handheld.

GreySeal9

Actually I think it will ok. The PSP's problem was that I could play most it's games better on the PS2 or PS3. Sure, it's not the exact same GoW game, but there's much better GoW games on the consoles.

With the 3DS, sure I could play LoZ: OoT on the Wii, but it won't be in 3D!

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#37 WiiMan21
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[QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I hope the 3DS doesn't go the "PSP route" now that Nintendo has decided to power up their handheld.

buwiset

Actually I think it will ok. The PSP's problem was that I could play most it's games better on the PS2 or PS3. Sure, it's not the exact same GoW game, but there's much better GoW games on the consoles.

With the 3DS, sure I could play LoZ: OoT on the Wii, but it won't be in 3D!

This,

And nothing beats playing the greatest game on earth anywhere with upped visuals and in 3D.

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Have the actual specs of the hardware the 3DS is using been released yet?
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Its not "amazing" but it is slightly better. Although Im sure the next PSP will have better graphics than the 3DS, I bet the 3DS will have better battery life. The DS has an amazing battery life so I would rather have Nintendo sacrifice graphics for battery.

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#40 SakusEnvoy
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I hope the 3DS doesn't go the "PSP route" now that Nintendo has decided to power up their handheld.

goblaa

Actually I think it will ok. The PSP's problem was that I could play most it's games better on the PS2 or PS3. Sure, it's not the exact same GoW game, but there's much better GoW games on the consoles.

With the 3DS, sure I could play LoZ: OoT on the Wii, but it won't be in 3D!

But this leads to the question of, when Nintendo is planning their next major hardcore Zelda, Mario, Metroid title - how does it determine whether it would be better suited for the Wii or the 3DS? There's a thin line separating the two now... differentiated mostly by their control schemes. Is it better to get motion controls and big screen output on the Wii, or 3D capability - providing an enhanced sense of depth - and portability?

I have a feeling this may also hurt third party development on the Wii. Most so-called hardcore third parties didn't like making games for the Wii anyway, and will probably just concentrate on 360/PS3/3DS games instead. There may end up being a certain degree of portability between the two, 3DS and Wii, from third parties -- kinda like we saw on the PSP and PS2.

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graphic upgrade, w/e. Just give m

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[QUOTE="LongZhiZi"]

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3DS Metal Gear

3DS MGS

I'm sorry- did the meaning of the word "amazing" change since I left the US? I didn't realize it now meant, "marginally better, at best."

The difference is PS2 ---> GCN graphics. Yes, the 3DS is probably stronger, but not significantly so.

WiiMan21

So the 3DS performs marginally better ( I think that's an understatement) at release than the psp does at it's peak. Considering the psp is somewhere between the ps1 and the ps2 in terms of power, that signifies great things for the 3DS.

It looks a lot better, take a look at the details, there kind of hard to point out but their there.

the 3DS is as strong or maybe better than the Gamecube, and the gamecube was the strongest system in terms of visuals last gen.

The reason why it never showed was because the disks for the gamecube were smaller and could only hold so much.

The games for the 3DS are nearly in a demo state, give the developers time to actually achieve some great games, give or take a good 3-4 months.

Resident Evil 4.

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#42 lucky_star
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It looks better than the PS2 versiontomarlyn
:lol: Its better than the PSP which is already old tech. But it does not look better than the ps2 version.
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#43 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]It looks better than the PS2 versionlucky_star
:lol: Its better than the PSP which is already old tech. But it does not look better than the ps2 version.

I have the PS2 version in my PS2, these screens and the latest gameplay footage looks better than it. Far superior textures, framerate, mapping and lighting. We haven't even seen it in 3D yet either.
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#44 Im_single
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[QUOTE="lucky_star"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"]It looks better than the PS2 versiontomarlyn
:lol: Its better than the PSP which is already old tech. But it does not look better than the ps2 version.

I have the PS2 version in my PS2, these screens and the latest gameplay footage looks better than it. Far superior textures, framerate, mapping and lighting. We haven't even seen it in 3D yet either.

PSP fans are in denial. the 3DS may be as strong as a GC as far as I'm concerned, I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of its life cycle we see games pushing Wii graphics.
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[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="LongZhiZi"]

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3DS Metal Gear

3DS MGS

I'm sorry- did the meaning of the word "amazing" change since I left the US? I didn't realize it now meant, "marginally better, at best."

The difference is PS2 ---> GCN graphics. Yes, the 3DS is probably stronger, but not significantly so.

WiiMan21

So the 3DS performs marginally better ( I think that's an understatement) at release than the psp does at it's peak. Considering the psp is somewhere between the ps1 and the ps2 in terms of power, that signifies great things for the 3DS.

It looks a lot better, take a look at the details, there kind of hard to point out but their there.

the 3DS is as strong or maybe better than the Gamecube, and the gamecube was the strongest system in terms of visuals last gen.

The reason why it never showed was because the disks for the gamecube were smaller and could only hold so much.

The games for the 3DS are nearly in a demo state, give the developers time to actually achieve some great games, give or take a good 3-4 months.

could it be that it has better foliage

sorry couldnt resist

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#46 KungfuKitten
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Pfffffft You guys are so fake. Ow it's a nintendo platform let's say it looks bad.
If You had eyes then You would notice the characters have like twice as much detail, and it does 3D and the textures look 3D, and light looks better. It's not a marginal improvement from PSP to 3DS it is in console terms like 3/4th the improvement from PS2 to PS3.

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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I hope the 3DS doesn't go the "PSP route" now that Nintendo has decided to power up their handheld.

Ragnarok1051

What would be the PSP route? Console quality games on a handheld? The GBA did that, as well as a lot of DS games.

I thought nintendo fans didn't want console games on their handheld. :P

Oh the hypocrisy. Years of hearing how the PSPs technology was not for handheld gaming and now Nintendo has released a console with PS2 graphics and a control stick.

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#48 murat8
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God if the 3DS gets a MHunter game i will never even think of the PSP again
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#49 buwiset
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"] What would be the PSP route? Console quality games on a handheld? The GBA did that, as well as a lot of DS games.Loco_Live

I thought nintendo fans didn't want console games on their handheld. :P

Oh the hypocrisy. Years of hearing how the PSPs technology was not for handheld gaming and now Nintendo has released a console with PS2 graphics and a control stick.

AFAIK no one said that, IMO the problem(complaints) with PSP is most of its games doesn't have that handheld feeling to them, that's why whenever I want to take a break from home console games I personally prefer playing with my DS more than my PSP, because DS games are different and offer a different experience. I just hope 3DS games will give the same experience(or better) but with better graphics :P

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I'm sorry- did the meaning of the word "amazing" change since I left the US? I didn't realize it now meant, "marginally better, at best."

The difference is PS2 ---> GCN graphics. Yes, the 3DS is probably stronger, but not significantly so.

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So the 3DS performs marginally better ( I think that's an understatement) at release than the psp does at it's peak. Considering the psp is somewhere between the ps1 and the ps2 in terms of power, that signifies great things for the 3DS.

It looks a lot better, take a look at the details, there kind of hard to point out but their there.

the 3DS is as strong or maybe better than the Gamecube, and the gamecube was the strongest system in terms of visuals last gen.

The reason why it never showed was because the disks for the gamecube were smaller and could only hold so much.

The games for the 3DS are nearly in a demo state, give the developers time to actually achieve some great games, give or take a good 3-4 months.

Have I missed something? How was the gamecube the most powerful system last gen? Is this the general consensus here?