Nintendo did not excel in any field this gen in games(Bash-free)

[QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"][QUOTE="caryslan2"]

While I'll be the first to admit the Wii's weaknesses with certain genres, one thing that bothers me is that you're comparing one system against two systems. Had this been a Wii vs 360 vs PS3 thread, I might have supported the argument a bit more. But it seems like your comparing a single system to two systems that both have their own exclusives and multiplats. Also, you did not take into account any Wiiware games in your argument while including downloadable games on both PSN and Xbox Live. I understand many Wiiware games don't get reviewed on here, but there are several games such as Contra Rebirth, Castlevania: The Adventure Rebirth, Cave Story, Mega Man 9, Mega Man 10, and several other games that have scored well on Metacritic.

Which bring me to my final point. This list would have been much better and your argument more valid had you used Metacritic. Because Gamespot does not bother to review many Wii game(and I'm not talking about garbage games either), your list is already somewhat unfair to the Wii. I'm not saying including Metacritic would change anything, but it would be a far more accurate representation and would help your argument.

caryslan2

You have several mutlplats on your 360 and PS3 list, and you also have games from their networks as well.

I'm just saying that Nintendo should be given the same fairness. If PSN and Xbox Live games can ount, then why not Wiiware games? There are some good ones out there.

[QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]Sorry but a few filters and achievements doesn't take away from the fact that it's the same damn game.Shinobishyguy

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"] Enhnaced resolution,. glitch removal, some levels had moved a few things over, both soundtracks, redone FMV, the bonus stages were edited. Sounds like a remake. oh wait you never played it.Dj-Dampleaf

I don't even know why I'm bothering with your messed up logic but I'll give it a shot

Here's an example remake:

Notice how almost everything is redone from the ground up? That's a frigging remake.

[QUOTE="caryslan2"]

[QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"] Megaman 9 and 10 are multiplats and fluidity is a Wiiware games.Dj-Dampleaf

You have several mutlplats on your 360 and PS3 list, and you also have games from their networks as well.

I'm just saying that Nintendo should be given the same fairness. If PSN and Xbox Live games can ount, then why not Wiiware games? There are some good ones out there.

Anyways, you're obviously biased. Just look at this:

Spelunky:8.5 (Xbox) -> How the hell did this get here? This was on the pc first. In fact, three years earlier. You put outland on the 360 list when it came out on ps3 two months later.

I'm not getting how comparing SMG to multiplat indie platformers prooves anything.

[QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]I have it downloaded on my ps3 dumbass. It's the same damn game. If they remixed the music and redone all the graphical assets sure I'd call it a remake, but it isn't. It's the same game displayed at a different resolution with a few features added in. That's all it is.Shinobishyguy

I don't even know why I'm bothering with your messed up logic but I'll give it a shot

Here's an example remake:

Notice how almost everything is redone from the ground up? That's a frigging remake.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"] Enhnaced resolution,. glitch removal, some levels had moved a few things over, both soundtracks, redone FMV, the bonus stages were edited.Dj-Dampleaf

I don't even know why I'm bothering with your messed up logic but I'll give it a shot

Here's an example remake:

Notice how almost everything is redone from the ground up? That's a frigging remake.

The fact that you're even trying to pass it off as such is an example of how flimsly your logic is.

The only people who like Nintendo are young children and bronies...

The only people who like Nintendo are young children and bronies...

trollop_scat

lol racing games --- mariokart any one , guess that slipped by your nose didnt it ,

and shooting games metroid prime conduit red steel are all exclusive to the wii ,

so come again when you got something better to post ,

its hard for me to believe you took the time to look through the wiis library before making this conclusion that nintendo did not excel in any field of games this gen when they clearly have

1. super mario galaxy
2. super mario galaxy 2
3. new super mario bro wii
4. endless ocean
5. zelda twilight princess
6. zelda skyward sword
7. kirby's epic yarn
8. metroid prime trillogy
9. metroid prime 3
10. metroid other m
11. super paper mario
12. mario party 8
13. mario kart wii
14. mario party 9
15. wii sports
16. wii sports resort
17. pikmin
18. pikmin 2
19. mario power tennis
20. mario sports mix
21. wii play
22. wii play motion
23. wii party
24. wii fit
25. wii music
26. wii fit plus
27. super smash bros brawl
28. kirbys return to dream land
29. excite bike world rally
30. excite truck
31. excite bots trick racing
32. dr mario online rx
33. xenoblade chronicles
34. the last story
35. wario land shake it
36. wario ware inc 2
37. donkey kong jungle beat
38. donkey kong barrel blast
39. donkey kong country returns
40. super mario all stars le
41. trauma center
42. fortune street
43. kirby compilation ce thats just nintendos retail and some key downlodables, here comes a laundry list of third party exclusives
44. red steel
45. red steel 2
46. the conduit
47. the conduit 2
48. final fantasy crystal beariers
49. final fantasy chochobos dungeon
50. final fantasy echoes of time
51. no more heroes 1/.2
52. resident evil uc
53. resident evil dc
54. goldeneye* was exclusive til activision made a lazy port so this is still the definitive version
55. ford racing off road
56. ferrari challenge
57. nascar kart racing
58. my sims
59. my sims kingdom
60. my sims party
61. my sims racing theres just so much more variety in the wii line up that you didnt notice the racing games , but what ever, since you love to defend the 360 ps3s library of countless needless shooting galleries and what little racing games you did recieve , not my problem

[QUOTE="super600"]

So you're using two good sonic games as your example to why ninty sucks this gen.:lol:

Dj-Dampleaf

Sonic and the Secret Rings and Sonic Colors.

1.Here are the reasons to why it's stupid to use those games in your example

A.Ninty never published those games

B.There actually good.

The Wii was a big let down for me, I'm not buying another Nintendo console for the foreseeable future. Heil68

The only people who like Nintendo are young children and bronies...

trollop_scat

Nope.:lol:

If Nintendo didn't excel in anything this gen, neither did anyone else.

[QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"][QUOTE="super600"]

So you're using two good sonic games as your example to why ninty sucks this gen.:lol:

super600

Sonic and the Secret Rings and Sonic Colors.

1.Here are the reasons to why it's stupid to use those games in your example

A.Ninty never published those games

B.There actually good.

but let's look at the big picture on Gamespot:

Dj-Dampleaf

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"] Elaborate.Dj-Dampleaf

Sonic and the Secret Rings and Sonic Colors.

1.Here are the reasons to why it's stupid to use those games in your example

A.Ninty never published those games

B.There actually good.

Just use the first reason as an excuse to remove those games from the Wii list.

[QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"][QUOTE="super600"]

Sonic and the Secret Rings and Sonic Colors.

1.Here are the reasons to why it's stupid to use those games in your example

A.Ninty never published those games

B.There actually good.

super600

Just use the first reason as an excuse to remove those games from the Wii list.

[QUOTE="Heil68"]The Wii was a big let down for me, I'm not buying another Nintendo console for the foreseeable future. Mario1331

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"] Why are we talking about single companies? I put Sonic games on the Nintendo list. The multicompanies on the 360 had better output than Sonic and such. Hello? it says sonic colors and SONIC AND THE SECRET RING IN THE OP. But if you really want platformer output, MS Game Studios: Trilas EVO:8.5 Trials:8.0 Splosion man:8.0 Ms. Splosion Man:8.5 Nut and Bolts: 8.5 Limbo:9.0 Mark of the Ninja:8.5 Avg:8.4 Nintendo: SMG:9.5 SMG2: 10 DKC:8.5 KEPIC:8.5 NSMBWii:8.5 KRTD:7.5 WL:Shake it:7.5 KRTDL:7,5 AVG:8.4 Uhh.......... Nintendo and MS are even this gen.Dj-Dampleaf

and why would you count 8 games from nintendo and 5 games from MS? your theory is beyond flawed right along with your reasoning

I am just wondering this. This gen has been Nintendos weakest of all gens so far with maybe 2 exceptions, but let's look at the big picture on Gamespot:

They did not excel in quality FP or FPS type games. They did not excel in shooting games.

They did not excel in platformers, scores down to console 7.5:

On Wii:

SMG2:10

SMG:9.5

NSMBW:8.5

KEPIC:8.5

DKC:8.5

Fluitity:8.5

Sonic Colors:8.0

SatSR:7.6

KRTDL:7.5

On Xbox:

Braid:9.5 (XBOX

Limbo:9.0 (Xbox

Outland:9.0 (Xbox

Spelunky:8.5 (Xbox)

Trine 2: 8.5 (Xbox

Ms.Splosion Man: 8.5 (Xbox)

Sonic CD enhanced:8.5 (Xbox

Mark of the Ninja:8.5 (XBOX)

Banjo Nut and Bolts:8.5 (XBOX)

Fez:8.0 (XBOX,)

Bionic Commado Rearmed:8.0 (XBOX

Splosion Man: 8.0 (XBOX)

Console Sonic Generations:8.0 (Xbox

Eets:7.9 (XBOX,)

Cloning Clyde:7.6 (XBOX)

Wiki:The fabled Souls:7.5 (XBOX)

They Did not Excel in racing games

They Did not Excel in Simulators

They did not Excel in Rpgs

They Did not Excel in strategy

and their last chance is family games, and yet, Kinect beat the Wii in family casual games:

Wii:

Wii Party:8.0

Wii Sports Resort: 8.0

Wii Sports: 7.8

Wii Fit Plus: 7.5

Wii Fit: 7.0

Mario Party 8: 6.5

Wii Music: 6.5

Mario Party 9: 6.0

Wii Play: 5.4

Wii Play Motion: 5.5

Kinect:

Kinect Gunstringer:8.5

Dance Central: 8.5

Dance Central 2: 8.5

Sesame Street: Once Upon a Monster:8.0

Kinect Sports:7.5

Kinectimals:7.5

Kinect Adventures:7.0

Kinect Joyride:6.5

Kinect Sports Season two:6.5

Kinect Disney Land Adventures:6.0

THIS IS NOT a Nintendo Bash thread, but people defending the Wii, do yourself and Nintendo a favor and DON'T defend the Wii. There are some good games onit, but the system is beyond hopeless, please understand that all you are doing is encouraging Nintendo to continue in this direction with the Wii U. So it would be best to admit the Wii was a disappointment.

Dj-Dampleaf

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"] Ok, why would I put bad games on the Nintendo side if I am comparing libraries?Dj-Dampleaf

Just use the first reason as an excuse to remove those games from the Wii list.

The title does not match up with what you're talking about.You're assuming in your Op that ninty,sony or MS developed/published some of those games when other company published/developed those games.You should have used the word Wii instead of Nintendo in your title.

[QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] From Software I give you, I'd forgotten about them. Square Enix? LOL And as for platformers, name any other single company that put has a higher averages with platformers than Nintendo. I'll wait.charizard1605

i'm dissappointed in you all for forgetting Lost Winds Winter of the Melodias (8.0) AA wii ware

tsk tsk tsk

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Dj-Dampleaf"] Why are we talking about single companies? I put Sonic games on the Nintendo list. The multicompanies on the 360 had better output than Sonic and such. Hello? it says sonic colors and SONIC AND THE SECRET RING IN THE OP. But if you really want platformer output, MS Game Studios: Trilas EVO:8.5 Trials:8.0 Splosion man:8.0 Ms. Splosion Man:8.5 Nut and Bolts: 8.5 Limbo:9.0 Mark of the Ninja:8.5 Avg:8.4 Nintendo: SMG:9.5 SMG2: 10 DKC:8.5 KEPIC:8.5 NSMBWii:8.5 KRTD:7.5 WL:Shake it:7.5 KRTDL:7,5 AVG:8.4 Uhh.......... Nintendo and MS are even this gen.Masterx1220

i'm dissappointed in you all for forgetting Lost Winds Winter of the Melodias (8.0) AA wii ware

tsk tsk tsk

Why is this thread still going? TC's logic has been debunked since the first page.

Why is this thread still going? TC's logic has been debunked since the first page.

Shinobishyguy

I will say this...

The majority of the titles you listed were created by Nintendo. Most of the titles you listed for the Xbox are 3rd party titles.

At least Nintendo can still pump out games that are still relevant.

I will say this...

The majority of the titles you listed were created by Nintendo. Most of the titles you listed for the Xbox are 3rd party titles.

At least Nintendo can still pump out games that are still relevant.

WiiCubeM1

[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]

I will say this...

The majority of the titles you listed were created by Nintendo. Most of the titles you listed for the Xbox are 3rd party titles.

At least Nintendo can still pump out games that are still relevant.

Dj-Dampleaf

As are you.

[QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]

I will say this...

The majority of the titles you listed were created by Nintendo. Most of the titles you listed for the Xbox are 3rd party titles.

At least Nintendo can still pump out games that are still relevant.

Dj-Dampleaf

I still don't get why you won't list SW Kinect or Steel Battalion both of those are exclusives. Cause if you add those two the garbage that is on Kinect Nintendo wins. BTW Nintendo still has a better first party than M$.

So for the platformers your going to compare Nintendo against four or five combined companies? OK thanks

LaytonsCat

Its not the TC's fault the Wii doesn't have good 3rd party support.

Lol obvious joke thread.

I still don't get why you won't list SW Kinect or Steel Battalion both of those are exclusives. Cause if you add those two the garbage that is on Kinect Nintendo wins. BTW Nintendo still has a better first party than M$.

HaloPimp978