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#1 ninjaxams
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you know, i used to love nintendo. i grew up with a nes in my bedroom and i played that thing to death. smb3, loz, battletoads, the system had some amazing games. even when i recieved a snes way back when, the goods times didn't stop. contra3, smw, uniracers (props to whoever remembers that game :P), it was an amazing time to be a gamer.

but now, NOW i have to admit my love for nintendo is pretty much dead. i haven't enjoyed a nintendo console since the n64, and even hen, the pickings were slim imo.

this is the unholy monster nintendo has become. between weresonic and this, i'm thinnking its high time sega and nintendo dissapear forever.

http://the-minusworld.com/2008/07/16/the-5-most-embarrasing-moments-of-nintendos-e3-conference/

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#2 ninjaxams
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look to the vid below my post for proof :P

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#3 gongytron
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i completely agree

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Is anything good to you? ever?
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#5 DivergeUnify
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http://the-minusworld.com/2008/07/16/the-5-most-embarrasing-moments-of-nintendos-e3-conference/

linked, and agreed. I didn't watc the press conference, but I heard it sucked... hard

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#6 Adonymous
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Can't wait for nintendo apologists to come in and say "buh buh buh it wasn't bad..it was just different :cry:"

Nintendo apologists are the worst, always were always will be, the sparkle in their eye just gives it away. Sony apologists are getting there, but still ways off from Nitty ones.

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#7 stvee101
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Can't wait for nintendo apologists to come in and say "buh buh buh it wasn't bad..it was just different :cry:"

Nintendo apologists are the worst, always were always will be, the sparkle in their eye just gives it away. Sony apologists are getting there, but still ways off from Nitty ones.

Adonymous

Agreed.The damage-control from sheep after the E3 fiasco has been,even by SW standards,unbelievable.

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If you think of video gaming as the Universe, Miyamoto would be it's god and Wii would be His Profit - er, I mean, Prophet...
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Can't wait for nintendo apologists to come in and say "buh buh buh it wasn't bad..it was just different :cry:"

Nintendo apologists are the worst, always were always will be, the sparkle in their eye just gives it away. Sony apologists are getting there, but still ways off from Nitty ones.

Adonymous

i can't see WHY they did that? i get that they want to lok good to the mainsteam press (they got some praise from fox news but they are the mortal enemys of gaming so what does that tell you? seriously though who takes fox news as even slightly true anymore?) nintendo is flushing istself and gaming down the toillet.

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#10 mdisen
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In the context of E3 and how it played out, Nintendo fails. MotionPlus is very understated because of its early announcment. But most sheep know, at least those who owned a Gamecube, that the Wii is much better than the Gamecube ever was.

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#11 sensesxfail
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If you think of video gaming as the Universe, Miyamoto would be it's god and Wii would be His Profit - er, I mean, Prophet...67gt500

Amazing analogy.

I miss the old nintendo. :(

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In the context of E3 and how it played out, Nintendo fails. MotionPlus is very understated because of its early announcment. But most sheep know, at least those who owned a Gamecube, that the Wii is much better than the Gamecube ever was.

mdisen

The GameCube was awesome. Metroid Prime, SSBM, and Pikmin were all superb. All three combined beat every game ever on the Wii (IMO)

Motion control is the worst thing to ever happen. I remember being so hyped up for the wii. I bought both my gamecube and wii on the midnight launch. What a mistake i made for the wii. The only good games for the wii (IMO) are super paper mario and SSBB. Two games with little to no motion sensing at all!

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#12 stvee101
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From the article:

"Then Reggie demoed a jet-ski mini-game by waving his arms wildly and eratically steering like a kamikaze ,alcoholic stunt-driver"

:lol:

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Cry moar tears :cry:

It's hilarious how people act as if Nintendo had caused them great bodily harm. I really just can't stop laughing :lol:

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#14 ninjaxams
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Is anything good to you? ever?PC360Wii
are you saying what nintendo has become is acceptable?
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#15 Adonymous
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[QUOTE="Adonymous"]

Can't wait for nintendo apologists to come in and say "buh buh buh it wasn't bad..it was just different :cry:"

Nintendo apologists are the worst, always were always will be, the sparkle in their eye just gives it away. Sony apologists are getting there, but still ways off from Nitty ones.

thegoldenpoo

i can't see WHY they did that? i get that they want to lok good to the mainsteam press (they got some praise from fox news but they are the mortal enemys of gaming so what does that tell you? seriously though who takes fox news as even slightly true anymore?) nintendo is flushing istself and gaming down the toillet.

NINTENDO ALREADY HAS MASS CASUAL APPEAL, Why try to go over 100%? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Wii still sells out on a daily basis...why else do you need casual appeal other than to get the casuals on board?

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#16 Arkthemaniac
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I was happy with MotionPlus, actually. It was completely unexpected, yet necessary, which made it a great showing. Other than that, well, it was pretty lame. I like WiiSpeak, though. I liked their stuff more than the Xbox redesign. I like the current look. We didn't get any games, but why do people need to see a new Zelda? We KNOW it's coming. Same with Mario and Pikmin. Also, Ravi Drums wasn't humiliating, it was hilarious. I really don't see the big deal.
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#17 AdolescentDon
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I'm glad i don't own a Wii yet, i think it's turnig out to be quite a disapointing console.

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#18 DireToad
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Cry moar tears :cry:

It's hilarious how people act as if Nintendo had caused them great bodily harm. I really just can't stop laughing :lol:

Zhengi



lol Nintendo fans
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this video explains it all...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VSJuHDBueT0

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#20 Shinobishyguy
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funny how people are quickly forgeting the good games nintendo made for the wii.

Or do SMG, SSBB, amd MP3 don't exist?

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#21 ninjaxams
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funny how people are quickly forgeting the good games nintendo made for the wii.

Or do SMG, SSBB, amd MP3 don't exist?

Shinobishyguy
great, rehash, rehash...and seriously, i would have much rather played smg with a regular controller.
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#23 hockeyruler12
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funny how people are quickly forgeting the good games nintendo made for the wii.

Or do SMG, SSBB, amd MP3 don't exist?

Shinobishyguy

funny thing Nintendo is fogetting about them too

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#24 haziqonfire
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I can't believe people are going ape %%%% over a stupid conference ... still.
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#25 Trelaf_TheWise
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Cry moar tears :cry:

It's hilarious how people act as if Nintendo had caused them great bodily harm. I really just can't stop laughing :lol:

Zhengi

Yeah you go ahead and convince yourself that 16 digit friend code doesn't bother you while other people express their legitimite complaints for Nintendo;)

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#26 megaton3k
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Its a fact the Wii sucks. My brother's ex bought a PS3 to make up for the Wii's disasterous shortcomings. Last time they played it, it was a year ago.:lol:
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#27 mdisen
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[QUOTE="Zhengi"]

Cry moar tears :cry:

It's hilarious how people act as if Nintendo had caused them great bodily harm. I really just can't stop laughing :lol:

Trelaf_TheWise

Yeah you go ahead and convince yourself that 16 digit friend code doesn't bother you while other people express their legitimite complaints for Nintendo;)

You confuse legitimate complaints with baseless ranting.

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#28 Shinobishyguy
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funny how people are quickly forgeting the good games nintendo made for the wii.

Or do SMG, SSBB, amd MP3 don't exist?

ninjaxams

great, rehash, rehash...and seriously, i would have much rather played smg with a regular controller.

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/915692.asp

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/928518.asp?q=super%20smash

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/928517.asp

:roll:

funny how these "rehashes" anre better than alot of the games out today.

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#29 eklineage
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oh comon TC. You have to admit their first party is addictive :P
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#30 Zhengi
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[QUOTE="Zhengi"]

Cry moar tears :cry:

It's hilarious how people act as if Nintendo had caused them great bodily harm. I really just can't stop laughing :lol:

Trelaf_TheWise

Yeah you go ahead and convince yourself that 16 digit friend code doesn't bother you while other people express their legitimite complaints for Nintendo;)

Hey, they can complain all they want. It just makes for more epic meltdowns and lol moments :lol:

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#31 thegoldenpoo
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[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="Adonymous"]

Can't wait for nintendo apologists to come in and say "buh buh buh it wasn't bad..it was just different :cry:"

Nintendo apologists are the worst, always were always will be, the sparkle in their eye just gives it away. Sony apologists are getting there, but still ways off from Nitty ones.

Adonymous

i can't see WHY they did that? i get that they want to lok good to the mainsteam press (they got some praise from fox news but they are the mortal enemys of gaming so what does that tell you? seriously though who takes fox news as even slightly true anymore?) nintendo is flushing istself and gaming down the toillet.

NINTENDO ALREADY HAS MASS CASUAL APPEAL, Why try to go over 100%? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Wii still sells out on a daily basis...why else do you need casual appeal other than to get the casuals on board?

i know m8, i know. lets hope this dosen't catch on (but the fact that gimping gaming to retard level seems to bring in the big bucks dosen't help) and lest hope that we still see masterpeices insted of Wii sports resorts, to all those who think this is just hardcore whining, imagine tarantino decided to make chick-flicks because his action movies were not as popular as 'in her shoes'. maybe then you would get how alot of gamers feel.

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#32 ninjaxams
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

funny how people are quickly forgeting the good games nintendo made for the wii.

Or do SMG, SSBB, amd MP3 don't exist?

hockeyruler12

funny thing Nintendo is fogetting about them too

lol
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Can't wait for nintendo apologists to come in and say "buh buh buh it wasn't bad..it was just different :cry:"

Nintendo apologists are the worst, always were always will be, the sparkle in their eye just gives it away. Sony apologists are getting there, but still ways off from Nitty ones.

Adonymous


Nintendo apologists may be bad, but the Nintendo haters E3 has spawned are not any better.

We don't know if what Miyamoto said about E3 is true or not. He could have been lying his ass off or he could have been telling the absolute truth. Only time will reveal his motivation for saying that, damage control or strategy. And yet the haters state Miyamoto is in damage control mode as if it is fact.

As for me, I'm leaning more towards the side that there was some truth to what he said about E3 being different for them, if only because I don't mind admitting when I am wrong. However, I acknowledge that he could indeed be in damage control mode and that we won't know for sure for a while now. Both haters and apologists a like are refusing to take any sort of objective position on this and one of them are going to be owned pretty severely because of it.

But this is System Wars afterall.

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#35 Adonymous
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[QUOTE="hockeyruler12"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

funny how people are quickly forgeting the good games nintendo made for the wii.

Or do SMG, SSBB, amd MP3 don't exist?

ninjaxams

funny thing Nintendo is fogetting about them too

lol

LMAO :lol:....:cry:

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#36 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

funny how people are quickly forgeting the good games nintendo made for the wii.

Or do SMG, SSBB, amd MP3 don't exist?

DireToad





lol yeah we owe Nintendo so much. I mean, they sold us products!

Are you in the same cult as air_wolf_cubed?

Nintedo screwed up e3 2008. No one's denying that.

That still doesn't erase the fact that up untill now they made awesome games for the wii.

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#37 Adonymous
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[QUOTE="Adonymous"]

Can't wait for nintendo apologists to come in and say "buh buh buh it wasn't bad..it was just different :cry:"

Nintendo apologists are the worst, always were always will be, the sparkle in their eye just gives it away. Sony apologists are getting there, but still ways off from Nitty ones.

TreyoftheDead


Nintendo apologists may be bad, but the Nintendo haters E3 has spawned are not any better.

We don't know if what Miyamoto said about E3 is true or not. He could have been lying his ass off or he could have been telling the absolute truth. Only time will reveal his motivation for saying that, damage control or strategy. And yet the haters state Miyamoto is in damage control mode as if it is fact.

As for me, I'm leaning more towards the side that there was some truth to what he said about E3 being different for them, if only because I don't mind admitting when I am wrong. However, I acknowledge that he could indeed be in damage control mode and that we won't know for sure for a while now. Both haters and apologists a like are refusing to take any sort of objective position on this and one of them are going to be owned pretty severely because of it.

But this is System Wars afterall.

I already said this, but

Does NINTENDO Need any more CASUAL APPEAL? Honestly?

Which Console gets sold out as soon as its restocked?...hmm...I doubt its all the hardcores.

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#38 Trelaf_TheWise
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[QUOTE="Trelaf_TheWise"][QUOTE="Zhengi"]

Cry moar tears :cry:

It's hilarious how people act as if Nintendo had caused them great bodily harm. I really just can't stop laughing :lol:

Zhengi

Yeah you go ahead and convince yourself that 16 digit friend code doesn't bother you while other people express their legitimite complaints for Nintendo;)

Hey, they can complain all they want. It just makes for more epic meltdowns and lol moments :lol:

LOL You're right man:lol: If you zealously believe something is perfect, criticism of ANY kind seems like a joke :lol:

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#39 thinicer
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Nintendo said years ago that they were going to change their business model. And yet, people here are still acting surprised and upset. Get over it.

If people are unhappy with Nintendo's offerings, then there are two other gaming platforms available.

Nintendo is in the business of making money and the Wii is working very well for them so far. Get used to it. As long as this model continues to be a profitable one for them, it will continue.

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#40 haziqonfire
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

funny how people are quickly forgeting the good games nintendo made for the wii.

Or do SMG, SSBB, amd MP3 don't exist?

ninjaxams
great, rehash, rehash...and seriously, i would have much rather played smg with a regular controller.


Rehash? Look at the games other fanboy's are hyping.
SFIV, RE5, Resistance 2, Gears of War 2

Insomniac is probably the worst when it comes to rehashing. R&C games got released every year since they started off on the PS2. That trend is continuing this gen and also with Resistance 2.
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#41 EddyPee
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

funny how people are quickly forgeting the good games nintendo made for the wii.

Or do SMG, SSBB, amd MP3 don't exist?

ninjaxams

great, rehash, rehash...and seriously, i would have much rather played smg with a regular controller.

MGS4? Rehash. GTA4? Rehash. Halo 3? Rehash. Finaly Fantasy 13(?)? Rehash.

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#42 ninjaxams
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Nintendo said years ago that they were going to change their business model. And yet, people here are still acting surprised and upset. Get over it.

If people are unhappy with Nintendo's offerings, then there are two other gaming platforms available.

Nintendo is in the business of making money and the Wii is working very well for them so far. Get used to it. As long as this model continues to be a profitable one for them, it will continue.

thinicer
i think everyone understands that but it ceases to be a major dissapointment to this day. its a shame really...
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#43 ninjaxams
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[QUOTE="ninjaxams"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

funny how people are quickly forgeting the good games nintendo made for the wii.

Or do SMG, SSBB, amd MP3 don't exist?

EddyPee

great, rehash, rehash...and seriously, i would have much rather played smg with a regular controller.

MGS4? Rehash. GTA4? Rehash. Halo 3? Rehash. Finaly Fantasy 13(?)? Rehash.

did i say otherwise? and at least those titles tried to improve on some things...
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I agree completely.
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#45 bf2nutta
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[QUOTE="DireToad"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

funny how people are quickly forgeting the good games nintendo made for the wii.

Or do SMG, SSBB, amd MP3 don't exist?

Shinobishyguy





lol yeah we owe Nintendo so much. I mean, they sold us products!

Are you in the same cult as air_wolf_cubed?

Nintedo screwed up e3 2008. No one's denying that.

That still doesn't erase the fact that up untill now they made awesome games for the wii.

Yes from our stand point it was a disaster.... but they want to appeal to a different market and make money its all about the money.....

What the hell is the point in pleasing a minority and losing out on the big sales... none at all.

Like I've said before lets say 100 people(who never owned a console b4) buy a wii, I reckon at least 10%-20% will move on to become a core gamer.... Cause remember we all started some where....

and also some people don't like first/third person shooters... I know its tough to belive but its true...

But to turn round and say there are no good games for the "core gamer" is just plain wrong.... and having purchased Okami today and looking forward too Force Unleashed(I will buy either the 360o or PS3 version, but its the control system I am looking forward to due to being a massive Star Wars fan), Conduit, Wario, Mad World e.t.c ....

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#46 haziqonfire
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[QUOTE="EddyPee"][QUOTE="ninjaxams"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

funny how people are quickly forgeting the good games nintendo made for the wii.

Or do SMG, SSBB, amd MP3 don't exist?

ninjaxams

great, rehash, rehash...and seriously, i would have much rather played smg with a regular controller.

MGS4? Rehash. GTA4? Rehash. Halo 3? Rehash. Finaly Fantasy 13(?)? Rehash.

did i say otherwise? and at least those titles tried to improve on some things...


Galaxy didn't improve on anything?
SSBB didnt improve on anything?
MP3:C didnt improve on anything?

The only one you have there is brawl, which is fundamentally the same with minor changes.
SMG made gamers and developers rethink platformers.
MP3:C made gamers and developers rethink FPS control on a console and specifically the Wii. MP3:C was also essentially the first Wii game to do motion controls and IR controls well.
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#47 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="EddyPee"][QUOTE="ninjaxams"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

funny how people are quickly forgeting the good games nintendo made for the wii.

Or do SMG, SSBB, amd MP3 don't exist?

ninjaxams


great, rehash, rehash...and seriously, i would have much rather played smg with a regular controller.

MGS4? Rehash. GTA4? Rehash. Halo 3? Rehash. Finaly Fantasy 13(?)? Rehash.


did i say otherwise? and at least those titles tried to improve on some things...


Oh, and SMG, SSBB and MP3 did not? :lol:
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#48 WAIW
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[QUOTE="EddyPee"][QUOTE="ninjaxams"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

funny how people are quickly forgeting the good games nintendo made for the wii.

Or do SMG, SSBB, amd MP3 don't exist?

ninjaxams

great, rehash, rehash...and seriously, i would have much rather played smg with a regular controller.

MGS4? Rehash. GTA4? Rehash. Halo 3? Rehash. Finaly Fantasy 13(?)? Rehash.

did i say otherwise? and at least those titles tried to improve on some things...

So what, are you saying SMG didn't imrpove from Sunshine? :roll: There's no denying Ninty has put out top tier games this gen, calling them rehashes doesn't change anything.

Funny link, ofc Ravi Drums would be #1 :lol:

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#49 schu
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i feel exactly the same..

dont get me wrong there are a couple good games on the wii

but nintendo has made a concious decision to dump many of its old fans (and by this i mean a specific market of gamers)

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#50 TreyoftheDead
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I already said this, but

Does NINTENDO Need any more CASUAL APPEAL? Honestly?

Which Console gets sold out as soon as its restocked?...hmm...I doubt its all the hardcores.

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Nintendo needs to keep it's casual audience interested before they move on to something else.