Nintendo had a bad year, can they redeem it on the next one?

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Nintendo, launching their bait&switch console this year at a whopping 300 dollars, with no voice chat capabilities, apps at launch, a controller at an extra cost of $70, attempted to put up a willing fight. The end result was neigh.

Zelda: Breath of the Wild: the saddest excuse ever for a console launch, this game was delayed for over a year and a half to support the company's new platform. Wii U owners like you and I were forgotten as the once promised 2015 game suddenly became a 2017 multiplatform title.

Arms: a fresh return to the gimmick of Nintendo: completely forget gameplay as long as you add some new "unique" bullshit. Was forgotten several months after launch when people realized it wasn't fun to play video games like it was 2006 still.

Splatoon 2: Oh dear piglet, this game is literally a reskin of the first game, with new modes that you can't even relax and play at your leisure; no, you play them at the mercy of Nintendo O'clock. This is Battlefront 2: Switch edition.

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe: You probably played this game a few years ago somewhere, and you probably weren't willing to shell out the whopping 60 BUCKS again for the same game this year.

Pokken Tournament DX: You probably played this game a few- ****, why am I getting a feeling of deja vu?

Fire Emblem Warriors: Your favorite button masher mixed with an above average IP by Nintendo equals some great milking of a wonderful franchise. If only a Nintendo console received a proper FE title since Radiant Dawn ten years ago.

Super Mario Odyssey: You can't even talk shit about this one, it's actually innovative and fun. It just had to have one flaw (because it's made by Nintendo and their brand recognition IS messing up games) of wacky and cumbersome motion controls, rendering the mobile version of the game annoying to play.

Do you think Nintendo will be able to come back in 2018? With Metroid Prime 4, Fire Emblem, Pokemon, and others coming (although we have no evidence any of these titles actually exist, it's a lot of smoke and mirror Sony style, when were these games announced anyways?), will Nintendo be able to have a strong exclusive lineup of games?

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#2 stuff238
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Nintendo had one of the worst years ever for video games.

They have no chance of recovering in 2018 because no one actually buys games like metroid, star fox or donkey Kong.

It is such a poor console and year for them that they have to make delusional threads claiming this is the most fun they had in years....well that’s because the Wii u was even worse! LOL

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#3  Edited By FLOPPAGE_50
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This thread smells like cow shit.

I can't even remember the last time a console had 2 AAAA titles in it's first year of launch according to the SW rules.

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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

This thread smells like cow shit.

I can't even remember the last time a console had 2 AAAA titles in it's first year of launch according to the SW rules.

sure, don't forget one of those was a game in development for half a decade, and when said and done you're the one delivering it

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Mmm, stinky bait

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@jcrame10 said:

Zelda: Breath of the Wild: the saddest excuse ever for a console launch

MY MAN!

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Well somebody has clearly too much time on their hands on a Saturday night...

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"Stop having fun, guys!"

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You forgot no 3rd party support.

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#12  Edited By mandzilla  Moderator
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I would disagree, I think Nintendo's had a great year so far! Sure there's a couple of game such as Zelda and Mario Kart which were Wii U games. But they've been very clever with their release schedule, bringing something new out every month to keep people interested, and their momentum going.

Not to mention they've been pretty successful in attracting indie developers over to make games for their platform, stuff like project octopath look like it'll be really fun on the Switch. Hopefully the third party support keeps up for it too.

With Xenoblade Chronicles still to come, plus all the stuff that is and could potentially come out next year, they should have a brilliant 2018 also. That is if they'd just get the virtual console up and running... :D

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Haha! Grumpy much? I don't even wanna argue, this was some fun shit.

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If you want to be taken seriously, you need to be charitable when making your arguments. Otherwise it just comes off as dumb and laughable.

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#15 joe_b1_kenobi
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Well I’m enjoying mine. Sunk a shedload of hours into splatoon 2 and Zelda. And I take it into work for a game of fifa, mk8 or street fighter with my colleagues. Can’t wait to get odyssey when I’ve got the money.

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#16  Edited By deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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I don't think they can. It was so terrible that I'm not even sure 2018 will be a thing. When the horrible Xenoblade 2 releases time and space will collapse.

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#17  Edited By Maroxad
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@jcrame10 said:

Nintendo, launching their bait&switch console this year at a whopping 300 dollars, with no voice chat capabilities, apps at launch, a controller at an extra cost of $70, attempted to put up a willing fight. The end result was neigh.

Zelda: Breath of the Wild: the saddest excuse ever for a console launch, this game was delayed for over a year and a half to support the company's new platform. Wii U owners like you and I were forgotten as the once promised 2015 game suddenly became a 2017 multiplatform title.

Arms: a fresh return to the gimmick of Nintendo: completely forget gameplay as long as you add some new "unique" bullshit. Was forgotten several months after launch when people realized it wasn't fun to play video games like it was 2006 still.

Splatoon 2: Oh dear piglet, this game is literally a reskin of the first game, with new modes that you can't even relax and play at your leisure; no, you play them at the mercy of Nintendo O'clock. This is Battlefront 2: Switch edition.

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe: You probably played this game a few years ago somewhere, and you probably weren't willing to shell out the whopping 60 BUCKS again for the same game this year.

Pokken Tournament DX: You probably played this game a few- ****, why am I getting a feeling of deja vu?

Fire Emblem Warriors: Your favorite button masher mixed with an above average IP by Nintendo equals some great milking of a wonderful franchise. If only a Nintendo console received a proper FE title since Radiant Dawn ten years ago.

Super Mario Odyssey: You can't even talk shit about this one, it's actually innovative and fun. It just had to have one flaw (because it's made by Nintendo and their brand recognition IS messing up games) of wacky and cumbersome motion controls, rendering the mobile version of the game annoying to play.

Do you think Nintendo will be able to come back in 2018? With Metroid Prime 4, Fire Emblem, Pokemon, and others coming (although we have no evidence any of these titles actually exist, it's a lot of smoke and mirror Sony style, when were these games announced anyways?), will Nintendo be able to have a strong exclusive lineup of games?

Hardly a sad excuse for a console launch. Considering how amazing the game was well recieved, delayed or not. It was still an amazing game.

Was forgotten several months after launch? Sounds like the life of a typical A rated console game if you ask me. But this is definately the weakest link of the games you listed.

Battlefront 2: Switch edition? Hyperbole much? There were questionable design choices, but none of them as damning as what Battlefront 2 did.

Mario Kart 8 and Pokken DX? considering how well these 2 sold (at least the former), and how poorly the switch sold. I am pretty sure you are full of crap.

Why does Fire Emblem need console support? None of the games really require that kind of power starting with the GBA games. Technologically speaking, the technology hasnt really improved the gameplay of the franchise since the Super Famicom. (Since I doubt the Famicom could handle some of the scale of later games, especially Geneology of the Holy War)

The general consensus is that the switch had an amazing first year. Which is why threads like this are being made.

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I don't think I've ever bought more games for a system in year 1 as I have for the Switch, and it's not even been a full year yet. Xenoblade 2 arrives shortly :)

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I actually agree with OP.

Zelda was pushed back for years on WiiU, only to then launch on the system and only getting around 20FPS. It's clear Nintendo wanted this to sell their Switch, and they couldn't give a fvck about WiiU.

Mario kart 8 Deluxe price was a scam.

Mario Odyssey is an amazing game, but again this game started development right after 3D World and was originally planned for WiiU.

Everyone seems to forget about WiiU. But Switch having such a good first year is because Nintendo mostly screwed over WiiU owners. That's not nice :/

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@R4gn4r0k: Wii U was a great beta test for them though. Did you enjoy being in their focus group for the last 5 years?

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@R4gn4r0k said:

I actually agree with OP.

Zelda was pushed back for years on WiiU, only to then launch on the system and only getting around 20FPS. It's clear Nintendo wanted this to sell their Switch, and they couldn't give a fvck about WiiU.

Mario kart 8 Deluxe price was a scam.

Mario Odyssey is an amazing game, but again this game started development right after 3D World and was originally planned for WiiU.

Everyone seems to forget about WiiU. But Switch having such a good first year is because Nintendo mostly screwed over WiiU owners. That's not nice :/

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Ah, a Nintendo hate circle jerk.

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I see no fault with any of the arguments presented. You are, without a doubt, the greatest thinker SW has in it's ranks. Well done sir, well done.

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I wish every year was a bad year like this.

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@hiphops_savior said:

I wish every year was a bad year like this.

Imagine how much worse it would be if Nintendo dared to release MP4, Fire Emblem and Pokemon all in the same year? That would be really bad - arguably worse than 2017. Also, if Pokemon isn't on the Wii U, then it's obvious Nintendo are just trolling their consumers.

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#27 DaVillain  Moderator
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Thank you Desmonic. I too didn't see no fault in this thread. As for this thread:

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@jumpaction said:

Haters of your fav system all around you, right? :P

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Too much sodium is bad for you.

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#30 drummerdave9099
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OP had a bad troll thread. Can he make it up in the next one?

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Even by cow standards, this is awful.

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#32 m_machine024
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Hmm so basically, Switch had a bad year because WiiU owners got screwed.

Ok.

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@charizard1605 said:

Ah, a Nintendo hate circle jerk.

No reason to close a thread, just because you disagree with what is being said here :/

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I didn’t buy the switch that is in my home, but I can easily say Zelda is worth the cost of admission. Best game I have played since Witcher 3 for PC or Bloodborne for PS4. Game is perfect.

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#35  Edited By speedytimsi
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I can't wait till next year...

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@indzman: It just seems like a bad time to say Nintendo had a rough year. Considering how many poor years they had with the Wii U, this year is arguably one of the strongest launches I have seen of any console period, let alone just a Nintendo platform.

Of course folks are entitled to their opinion, but to say Nintendo had a bad year in 2017 seems like quite the minority.

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#37  Edited By indzman
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@jumpaction said:

@indzman: It just seems like a bad time to say Nintendo had a rough year. Considering how many poor years they had with the Wii U, this year is arguably one of the strongest launches I have seen of any console period, let alone just a Nintendo platform.

Of course folks are entitled to their opinion, but to say Nintendo had a bad year in 2017 seems like quite the minority.

Switch is doing really good and i'm Happy for it. Its just some nintendo fanboys on SW taking it to the utmost pedestal ignoring rest systems acheivements lol. Yeah, Switch really had a amazing year and i'm glad you you enjoying it so much. Not everyone is understanding as you tho Heh :)

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@indzman: Does't that seem equally as reductive? :/

What sense does it make that instead of combating shallow opinions towards consoles like the PS4 and Xbox One, you join in on that wavelength in critiques against the Nintendo Switch?

This thread is about Nintendo having a bad year when the opposite is true. It's an opinion, sure but one spun up from a purposefully ignorant perspective. It's the exact same ignorance that is being unfairly shot toward other consoles on the market.

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@jumpaction said:

@indzman: Does't that seem equally as reductive? :/

What sense does it make that instead of combating shallow opinions towards consoles like the PS4 and Xbox One, you join in on that wavelength in critiques against the Nintendo Switch?

This thread is about Nintendo having a bad year when the opposite is true. It's an opinion, sure but one spun up from a purposefully ignorant perspective. It's the exact same ignorance that is being unfairly shot toward other consoles on the market.

Fanboys force us :P In our Hearts we all know Switch and PS 4 both awesome lol.

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@indzman: Interestingly the three main critics of the system here also don't own the system.

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#41 k--m--k
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I am confused, I thought Nintendo had the best year?

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Jesus Christ this thread is pathetic. Thanks for the laughs though I guess. lol

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Nintendo releases a new console with great games, sells well more games to come. Xbox has no games a 4K console that can't do 4k and no games to come. But Nintendo had a bad year?

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@charizard1605: any particular reason why this was locked and then unlocked? I mean really, are the things not listed under each game fairly accurate.

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@R4gn4r0k said:
@charizard1605 said:

Ah, a Nintendo hate circle jerk.

No reason to close a thread, just because you disagree with what is being said here :/

the only circle jerk i see is the one in the Nintendo HQ where they sat around jerking it to Bethesda and shit out that knock-off Skyrim game called Breath of the Wild

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@Maroxad said:
@jcrame10 said:

Nintendo, launching their bait&switch console this year at a whopping 300 dollars, with no voice chat capabilities, apps at launch, a controller at an extra cost of $70, attempted to put up a willing fight. The end result was neigh.

Zelda: Breath of the Wild: the saddest excuse ever for a console launch, this game was delayed for over a year and a half to support the company's new platform. Wii U owners like you and I were forgotten as the once promised 2015 game suddenly became a 2017 multiplatform title.

Arms: a fresh return to the gimmick of Nintendo: completely forget gameplay as long as you add some new "unique" bullshit. Was forgotten several months after launch when people realized it wasn't fun to play video games like it was 2006 still.

Splatoon 2: Oh dear piglet, this game is literally a reskin of the first game, with new modes that you can't even relax and play at your leisure; no, you play them at the mercy of Nintendo O'clock. This is Battlefront 2: Switch edition.

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe: You probably played this game a few years ago somewhere, and you probably weren't willing to shell out the whopping 60 BUCKS again for the same game this year.

Pokken Tournament DX: You probably played this game a few- ****, why am I getting a feeling of deja vu?

Fire Emblem Warriors: Your favorite button masher mixed with an above average IP by Nintendo equals some great milking of a wonderful franchise. If only a Nintendo console received a proper FE title since Radiant Dawn ten years ago.

Super Mario Odyssey: You can't even talk shit about this one, it's actually innovative and fun. It just had to have one flaw (because it's made by Nintendo and their brand recognition IS messing up games) of wacky and cumbersome motion controls, rendering the mobile version of the game annoying to play.

Do you think Nintendo will be able to come back in 2018? With Metroid Prime 4, Fire Emblem, Pokemon, and others coming (although we have no evidence any of these titles actually exist, it's a lot of smoke and mirror Sony style, when were these games announced anyways?), will Nintendo be able to have a strong exclusive lineup of games?

Hardly a sad excuse for a console launch. Considering how amazing the game was well recieved, delayed or not. It was still an amazing game.

Was forgotten several months after launch? Sounds like the life of a typical A rated console game if you ask me. But this is definately the weakest link of the games you listed.

Battlefront 2: Switch edition? Hyperbole much? There were questionable design choices, but none of them as damning as what Battlefront 2 did.

Mario Kart 8 and Pokken DX? considering how well these 2 sold (at least the former), and how poorly the switch sold. I am pretty sure you are full of crap.

Why does Fire Emblem need console support? None of the games really require that kind of power starting with the GBA games. Technologically speaking, the technology hasnt really improved the gameplay of the franchise since the Super Famicom. (Since I doubt the Famicom could handle some of the scale of later games, especially Geneology of the Holy War)

The general consensus is that the switch had an amazing first year. Which is why threads like this are being made.

Lolz, Switch had ONE GOOD GAME the entire year which is Mario Odyssey. It's true there are other games worth buying like Zelda, Mario Kart and Pokken but what about people who already own all those games on the Wii U? The Bait & Switch console is marketed towards people who didnt give a **** about nintendo the last 5 years while everyone else got shitted on. It's like getting friend zoned by the girl who sticks with the guy who beats her and cheats on her.

Splatoon 2 is no different than the first and no better. It did nothing to fix any of the original's problems.

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Why does Fire Emblem NOT deserve console support. PoR and RD were two of the best games in the series. Consoles offer a lot more and it's been long overdue for a traditional FE game to hit the console market.

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@PCgameruk said:

Nintendo releases a new console with great games, sells well more games to come. Xbox has no games a 4K console that can't do 4k and no games to come. But Nintendo had a bad year?

Every year is a bad year for Xbox lolol

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#48  Edited By jcrame10
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@jumpaction said:

@indzman: It just seems like a bad time to say Nintendo had a rough year. Considering how many poor years they had with the Wii U, this year is arguably one of the strongest launches I have seen of any console period, let alone just a Nintendo platform.

Of course folks are entitled to their opinion, but to say Nintendo had a bad year in 2017 seems like quite the minority.

2014, 2015 were better years for Nintendo

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#49 Kjtc1979
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Fingers crossed for a year as bad as 2017 in 2018. I'll start preparing my wallet now.

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#50  Edited By deactivated-5c1d0901c2aec
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@jcrame10: Even as a Wii U owner, I still found lots to buy on Switch this year. I have had tons of playtime out of it with Mario Odyssey, Splatoon 2 (I didn't play the first game), Arms and Mario + Rabbids alone. The two Mario themed games are among my favorites this year. I also played the Switch version of BoTW and I think that game is excellent.

The bottom line is, you're disappointed with a system you own and don't see the value in a system you do own. Ports are a thing that happen. They happen on all launch systems. It's the fact that Switch also had interesting titles outside of the ports like Odyssey, Mario + Rabbids, Arms and the upcoming Xenbolade 2 that makes it a strong launch. Financially it was a strong year for them and software wise (Regardless of what platforms BoTW released on) it was a strong year.

Your original post is very disingenuous too. :/