Nintendo had a bad year, can they redeem it on the next one?

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#51 jcrame10
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@jumpaction said:

@jcrame10: Even as a Wii U owner, I still found lots to buy on Switch this year. I have had tons of playtime out of it with Mario Odyssey, Splatoon 2 (I didn't play the first game), Arms and Mario + Rabbids alone. The two Mario themed games are among my favorites this year. I also played the Switch version of BoTW and I think that game is excellent.

The bottom line is, you're disappointed with a system you own and don't see the value in a system you do own. Ports are a thing that happen. They happen on all launch systems. It's the fact that Switch also had interesting titles outside of the ports like Odyssey, Mario + Rabbids, Arms and the upcoming Xenbolade 2 that makes it a strong launch. Financially it was a strong year for them and software wise (Regardless of what platforms BoTW released on) it was a strong year.

Your original post is very disingenuous too. :/

I could see someone enjoying Splatoon 2 if you never played the first. Doesn't the Switch version of Zelda run worse than the Wii U. Go figure.

Most of the games were indies, ports, etc imo

disingenuous? how?

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#52  Edited By AzatiS
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@jcrame10 said:

Nintendo, launching their bait&switch console this year at a whopping 300 dollars, with no voice chat capabilities, apps at launch, a controller at an extra cost of $70, attempted to put up a willing fight. The end result was neigh.

1) Zelda: Breath of the Wild: the saddest excuse ever for a console launch, this game was delayed for over a year and a half to support the company's new platform. Wii U owners like you and I were forgotten as the once promised 2015 game suddenly became a 2017 multiplatform title.

2) Arms: a fresh return to the gimmick of Nintendo: completely forget gameplay as long as you add some new "unique" bullshit. Was forgotten several months after launch when people realized it wasn't fun to play video games like it was 2006 still.

3) Splatoon 2: Oh dear piglet, this game is literally a reskin of the first game, with new modes that you can't even relax and play at your leisure; no, you play them at the mercy of Nintendo O'clock. This is Battlefront 2: Switch edition.

4) Mario Kart 8 Deluxe: You probably played this game a few years ago somewhere, and you probably weren't willing to shell out the whopping 60 BUCKS again for the same game this year.

5) Pokken Tournament DX: You probably played this game a few- ****, why am I getting a feeling of deja vu?

6) Fire Emblem Warriors: Your favorite button masher mixed with an above average IP by Nintendo equals some great milking of a wonderful franchise. If only a Nintendo console received a proper FE title since Radiant Dawn ten years ago.

7) Super Mario Odyssey: You can't even talk shit about this one, it's actually innovative and fun. It just had to have one flaw (because it's made by Nintendo and their brand recognition IS messing up games) of wacky and cumbersome motion controls, rendering the mobile version of the game annoying to play.

Do you think Nintendo will be able to come back in 2018? With Metroid Prime 4, Fire Emblem, Pokemon, and others coming (although we have no evidence any of these titles actually exist, it's a lot of smoke and mirror Sony style, when were these games announced anyways?), will Nintendo be able to have a strong exclusive lineup of games?

1) I agree and i stated that few months back. The fact though is that being delayed or not doesnt matter anymore, was a terrific game that pushed sales of the new hardware. It did its job, sheep didnt mind to wait ( or they just dont admit ) so ...

2) I agree

3) I agree

4) I agree ... Paying full price for an actual remaster is too much but hey .. this is Nintendo for you. Go to their online shop and youll see 25 years old games at $8 or something when games like Witcher 3 having 14 as we speak.

5) Dunno about this one cant have an opinion

6) I agree

7) Again i cant have an opinion on this one. I heard about the motion controls, something i personally despice but if its not something i need to do every few seconds or minutes, who cares. Game looks phenomenal and some reviews and demos ive watched looking great. Im waiting to play this in holidays and ill see then if this motion controls drama is any true. I hope its not ...

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#53 360mli
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4girlz

the FABLE series

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#54  Edited By deactivated-5c1d0901c2aec
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No it doesn't. That's a bad troll attempt. :P The Switch version runs better. Go figure. Again, completely disingenuous.

Let me address your points though.

1. A bit hyperbolic if I was being polite. Regardless whether you were one of the few to own a Wii U or not, Nintendo launched a fantastic Zelda game on Wii U and Switch. Wii U owners still had the option of opting for that version of the game, if they wanted making the title a less interesting selling point for the Switch. However, as it turns out, the Switch version sold more and it seemed to be a successful launch title after all. So one of the most pathetic launch titles ever when it is not only a game that tons of people really like but also helped the Switch to be one of the fastest selling Nintendo consoles is a pretty disingenuous opinion.

2. It's a good game. Sadly it doesn't have the skill ceiling or depth other fighting games have but it is a unique game that is genuinely fun to play. It did decently well number-wise and the content is still coming. Not the best Switch game but by no means a bad game at all. It's good fun. You haven't played it.

3. Splatoon 2. I didn't play the first game. It doesn't seem like a huge step up from the first game really, but for those with a Wii U who did play the first title, I can see it not being as interesting. Then one must consider that (a.) the Wii U had a tiny install base and (b.) it's still a good game.

4. MK8 Deluxe. Much the same as Splatoon 2, though this game definitely had a big audience on Wii U. I didn't pick this one up and yet I still found other games to play on Switch instead.

5. Same again. It assumes people owned a Wii U and played the game. I didn't play it on Wii U or Switch. I hear it's not a bad game, but I don't know myself. I don't want to comment on it. Certainly doesn't seem like a bad game though.

6. It's fast-food gaming really. I'm enjoying it in that I know it's also mindless derp. :P

7. Super Mario Odyssey. One of my favorite games this year. Super disingenuous to try and frame its (largely optional) motion controls being awkward for handheld users as a reason for Nintendo having a bad year; You're attempting to completely distract from the fact that this is one of the strongest games released this year.

No mention of course of Mario + Rabbids, the upcoming Xenoblade 2 which could be quite fun, the 3DS titles to release this year or the strong lineup of independent titles for those who like smaller productions.

I think you're in the minority here, buddy and the only people agreeing with you aren't Switch owners either.

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#55 Telekill
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Bad troll post.

Nintendo had the first really good year in a long time; nearly two generations in my opinion. For the first time since GameCube, I'm excited to be a Nintendo owner.

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#56 Xabiss
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WTF is this shit. Nintendo keep it up you are kicking ass! You had some great games this year and fanboys are the worse.

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#58 lamprey263
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Three good games in its launch year, BotW, Mario Kart 8, and Mario Odyssey, I'd say it's pretty solid. I'm not excited about Switch because I think it's superior to my other systems, but to me it's a must have system to have for me for the kinds of games I want from Nintendo. And the system seems to sell really well, how's that not good for them, and how is that not attractive to third party Japanese developers? I expect great things for Switch going forward.

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#59 hrt_rulz01
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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

This thread smells like cow shit.

I can't even remember the last time a console had 2 AAAA titles in it's first year of launch according to the SW rules.

Lol... most do on System Wars.

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#60 KBFloYd
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to humor your ridiculous thread...

confirmed games are:

yoshi Paper world
kirby
pokemon (main series never before on console)
Metroid prime 4 (in 2018?)
Fire emblem
project octopath
baz blue
shin megami tensei 5
no more heroes 3

possible games:
donkey kong (2D or 3D)
smash bros
2D Mario
F-zero(dream material)
kid icarus (who knows)

plus maybe many indies and old 3rd party ports
plus surprise games

i'd say the year seems pretty much as good as this one. maybe more

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#61 Bread_or_Decide
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lol wut

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#62 jcrame10
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@jumpaction said:

No it doesn't. That's a bad troll attempt. :P The Switch version runs better. Go figure. Again, completely disingenuous.

Let me address your points though.

1. A bit hyperbolic if I was being polite. Regardless whether you were one of the few to own a Wii U or not, Nintendo launched a fantastic Zelda game on Wii U and Switch. Wii U owners still had the option of opting for that version of the game, if they wanted making the title a less interesting selling point for the Switch. However, as it turns out, the Switch version sold more and it seemed to be a successful launch title after all. So one of the most pathetic launch titles ever when it is not only a game that tons of people really like but also helped the Switch to be one of the fastest selling Nintendo consoles is a pretty disingenuous opinion.

2. It's a good game. Sadly it doesn't have the skill ceiling or depth other fighting games have but it is a unique game that is genuinely fun to play. It did decently well number-wise and the content is still coming. Not the best Switch game but by no means a bad game at all. It's good fun. You haven't played it.

3. Splatoon 2. I didn't play the first game. It doesn't seem like a huge step up from the first game really, but for those with a Wii U who did play the first title, I can see it not being as interesting. Then one must consider that (a.) the Wii U had a tiny install base and (b.) it's still a good game.

4. MK8 Deluxe. Much the same as Splatoon 2, though this game definitely had a big audience on Wii U. I didn't pick this one up and yet I still found other games to play on Switch instead.

5. Same again. It assumes people owned a Wii U and played the game. I didn't play it on Wii U or Switch. I hear it's not a bad game, but I don't know myself. I don't want to comment on it. Certainly doesn't seem like a bad game though.

6. It's fast-food gaming really. I'm enjoying it in that I know it's also mindless derp. :P

7. Super Mario Odyssey. One of my favorite games this year. Super disingenuous to try and frame its (largely optional) motion controls being awkward for handheld users as a reason for Nintendo having a bad year; You're attempting to completely distract from the fact that this is one of the strongest games released this year.

No mention of course of Mario + Rabbids, the upcoming Xenoblade 2 which could be quite fun, the 3DS titles to release this year or the strong lineup of independent titles for those who like smaller productions.

I think you're in the minority here, buddy and the only people agreeing with you aren't Switch owners either.

1. Zelda was a cop-out. That game has been ready for release for a long time before it came out on Switch. They used it to boost sales because they had nothing else worthwhile to offer (lol Bomberman R, 1-2 Switch).

2. Gimmicky, from one I remember it lacked content too. Shoulda been a 30 dollar download not a full fledged 60 dollar game.

3. Carbon copy, still no voice chat, partying/lobbies suck, game modes aren't available 24/7, everything that sucked about the first game is present here.

4. Good game but it's almost 4 years old. I can't believe they launched it at full price regardless of the new content. Did that content ever make it's way to Wii U?

5. Same. Your point further reinforces the belief that Switch is designed for non Wii-U owners.

6. lol this game

7. Honestly I was basing my opinion of the motion controls off one of my co-workers who said the game was frustrating in portable mode in the areas where motion is forced. Research online showed this as well.

Xenoblade 2 will be good but it's not out yet. And I ALWAYS forget Mario Rabbids exists because I dont care about it.

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#63 onesiphorus
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Saying that Nintendo had a "bad" year is just fanboyish fake news to me.

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#64 kejigoto
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Well this is past the point where I can tell if people are still being sarcastic or if we're at the point where people are actually drinking the Kool-Aid...

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#65 IMAHAPYHIPPO
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@jcrame10: I honestly can't tell if this is a sarcastic post or not. The obvious delusional nature of it screams "I'm a Nintendo fan who obviously sees that Nintendo fucking killed it this year," but you never know on these boards. This could be a legit release of emotions, somehow. Regardless, Nintendo killed it this year. Dear God, what a great year to be a Nintendo fan. And as any Nintendo fan knows, announcing the release date for Zelda means it's coming out two years later. That's a given at this point. The fact that they snuck in a Mario release that they both announced at the beginning of the year and actually released at the end of the year; that's clutch. They filtered in pretty good games in between, just like Prey totally sucked ass but was purchased more than it should have been because it came out in May, so was Arms. Arms was so-so, but it was fun enough for people with a new console to enjoy it for what it was; because that's what May gaming is.

Regardless, Nintendo fucking rocked this year. This post is nonsense, either because the OP knows it, or is salty AF. Nintendo's return to glory, 2017. Whhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee (and definitely not Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii).

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#66 Techhog89
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This is actually the best satire I've seen on this board. Well done.

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#67 Techhog89
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@jcrame10 said:
@jumpaction said:

@jcrame10: Even as a Wii U owner, I still found lots to buy on Switch this year. I have had tons of playtime out of it with Mario Odyssey, Splatoon 2 (I didn't play the first game), Arms and Mario + Rabbids alone. The two Mario themed games are among my favorites this year. I also played the Switch version of BoTW and I think that game is excellent.

The bottom line is, you're disappointed with a system you own and don't see the value in a system you do own. Ports are a thing that happen. They happen on all launch systems. It's the fact that Switch also had interesting titles outside of the ports like Odyssey, Mario + Rabbids, Arms and the upcoming Xenbolade 2 that makes it a strong launch. Financially it was a strong year for them and software wise (Regardless of what platforms BoTW released on) it was a strong year.

Your original post is very disingenuous too. :/

I could see someone enjoying Splatoon 2 if you never played the first. Doesn't the Switch version of Zelda run worse than the Wii U. Go figure.

Most of the games were indies, ports, etc imo

disingenuous? how?

The Switch version runs significantly better, but the load times are a little worse.

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#68  Edited By funsohng
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#69 Sgt_Crow
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Is this a thread from an alternate reality?

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#70  Edited By deactivated-5c1d0901c2aec
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@jcrame10: Regardless on whether or not Zelda was delayed to launch with Switch, it still launched in 2017 and it was still a very good game. Ditto many of the games listed. Your forgetting of Mario + Rabbids which is a very good game too kind of loosens the weight your opinion has here. :(

As far as first years for a new game console, the Nintendo Switch and Nintendo have had a very good year. That's fairly obvious to most. :)

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#71 sonny2dap
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I'm loving the bait the Switch has spawned on system wars, can't imagine what it's going to be like when the main series Pokemon title launches with it.

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This thread... Lol. What a lousy troll attempt.

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#73 soul_starter
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Ninty have had a pretty good year, considering how bad the WiiU years were and they have at least 2 genuine AAA exclusives....the problem for 2018 and beyond is 3rd party support. Games released 5 or more years ago, coming to the Switch is not support and nor do they sell well. Unless the company will be releasing AAA exclusives of the quality of Zelda and Mario every year, with at least 2 or 3 years, its going to end up like a gaming graveyard equivalent to every Nintendo console post SNES.

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#74 SolidGame_basic
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Thankfully you are not the head of Nintendo, as they are killing it right now.

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#75 FireEmblem_Man
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@jcrame10: I think YOU had a bad year, because Switch is selling, and you have to nitpick software choices to prove that they really did have a bad year. Maybe you're crying for attention?