Nintendo is doing it again 3DS will be the best selling console ever

[QUOTE="WiiMan21"]

Didn't the PS2 sell the most for a system?

ThePlothole

Yeah, PS2 still leads by about 24 million units. Though it's also been on the market for considerably longer.

if were talking about the ds the ps2 does not lead the ds by 24 million units they lead it by about 9-12

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]

[QUOTE="HelloMoto56"]

it's a double standard!

madsnakehhh

Its a flip flop!

Its the SW way.

WTH dont yall want graphics from nintendo but now its not what yall want?

especially you tomarlyn you want a wii2 bad so i dont get it they are doing exactly what you "hardcore" fans love so much.graphics

[QUOTE="nintendoman562"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"] Its a revolution!tomarlyn

whats the prinicple 3d without glasses?

if they stayed a gen behind yall would slam it but now they bring it to the table yall slamming it again?this is worst then the psp-3ds debate about ports (which really doesnt make no sense)

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]2 things I would be concerned about with the 3DS:

1) Is it true or not that 3D gaming causes headaches for a lot of people after 30 minutes

2) Will the 3D fad still be popular throughout the 3DS's life cycle? For movies, we're already looking at a repeat of the 80's with tons of poor quality gimmick movies with "3D" in the title over saturating cinemas, and if history repeats itself (which it will), the days of 3D movies are numbered, and thank God. Most movies only use it to make more money from renting the glasses, but after a few high profile 3D flops I think we'll start seeing less and less of it.

That doesn't mean that 3DS will die out with the 3D fad, but 3D as a selling point is going to become less and less relevant over the next year or two. The market is oversaturated and 3D will no longer have the novelty factor it had when Avatar came out. Even crap like Step Up 3 and Resident Evil Afterlife is getting released in 3D now, and eventually people will stop paying extra for it because the gimmick won't be worth it. Will the 3DS be immune to people starting to look at 3D as old hat? Only time will tell.rcafan

2. what about the so called fad for the wii remote? oh wait... look at the move and kicnet.... 3d fad should of die already but since many movies are using now its going to stay. now since tvs are having it its going to stay.

3D is a fad, though. It always has been and that does not look like it's going to change this time around. The revenues from movies in 3D are already decreasing from the initial boom and it seems proportional to how many movies are tacking it on as a gimmick to increase ticket prices.

http://gizmodo.com/5592956/is-3d-already-dying

This is the exact same thing that happens every 20 years or so-- 3D comes out and for a new generation, the gimmick is a must-see. Then, every movie starts using it as a gimmick to get attention, and suddenly no-one cares anymore. The existence of 3D TVs doesn't mean jack squat, because there are only 25,000 in existence and there is NO content for them except for a few PS3 games. They sold 3D video tapes in the 80's too, but that did not save the gimmick from going out back then, and TVs that cost $3000 plus an additional $1500 in glasses are not going to save 3D from going out this time either. Getting 3D at home is not financially plausible at this point, and the fact that there is no content means there's no reason at all to invest in it. HD is just now overtaking standard definition, so don't expect to see 3D hit the airwaves any time soon-- if ever.

[QUOTE="rcafan"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]2 things I would be concerned about with the 3DS:

1) Is it true or not that 3D gaming causes headaches for a lot of people after 30 minutes

2) Will the 3D fad still be popular throughout the 3DS's life cycle? For movies, we're already looking at a repeat of the 80's with tons of poor quality gimmick movies with "3D" in the title over saturating cinemas, and if history repeats itself (which it will), the days of 3D movies are numbered, and thank God. Most movies only use it to make more money from renting the glasses, but after a few high profile 3D flops I think we'll start seeing less and less of it.

That doesn't mean that 3DS will die out with the 3D fad, but 3D as a selling point is going to become less and less relevant over the next year or two. The market is oversaturated and 3D will no longer have the novelty factor it had when Avatar came out. Even crap like Step Up 3 and Resident Evil Afterlife is getting released in 3D now, and eventually people will stop paying extra for it because the gimmick won't be worth it. Will the 3DS be immune to people starting to look at 3D as old hat? Only time will tell.Timstuff

2. what about the so called fad for the wii remote? oh wait... look at the move and kicnet.... 3d fad should of die already but since many movies are using now its going to stay. now since tvs are having it its going to stay.

3D is a fad, though. It always has been and that does not look like it's going to change this time around. The revenues from movies in 3D are already decreasing from the initial boom and it seems proportional to how many movies are tacking it on as a gimmick to increase ticket prices.

http://gizmodo.com/5592956/is-3d-already-dying

This is the exact same thing that happens every 20 years or so-- 3D comes out and for a new generation, the gimmick is a must-see. Then, every movie starts using it as a gimmick to get attention, and suddenly no-one cares anymore. The existence of 3D TVs doesn't mean jack squat, because there are only 25,000 in existence and there is NO content for them except for a few PS3 games. They sold 3D video tapes in the 80's too, but that did not save the gimmick from going out back then, and TVs that cost $3000 plus an additional $1500 in glasses are not going to save 3D from going out this time either. Getting 3D at home is not financially plausible at this point, and the fact that there is no content means there's no reason at all to invest in it. HD is just now overtaking standard definition, so don't expect to see 3D hit the airwaves any time soon-- if ever.

Even if 3D in movies are a fad, does that necessarily have any relevance for the 3DS? The real question we should be concerned with is what role, if any, does 3D have for the future of gaming. The basics behind the parallax barrier display are so simple and elegant that it may add as little as $15 to the overall production costs of the system.(link). It will come embedded with every 3DS sold, which means developers don't need to worry about market segmentation, and consumers aren't paying anything extra for it after they buy the system.

So far, the impressions have been enthusiastic about the 3D effect. Deus Ex creator Warren Spector even went so far as to say that the 3DS "changed his life" and that he was " [C]ompletely wrong about 3D. Not a fad. Not going away. Here for good - and that's a good thing. Nintendo deserves to sell a gazillion of these things." Granted, that's only the opinion of a single game developer; but the impressions from most people who tried out the system have been very positive. The technology has obvious limitations which means we probably won't see it on many PC monitors or TVs, but it may have found a good home on the 3DS.

About the future of 3DTVs -- I can only say this much, 120Hz and 240Hz TVs are becoming the de-facto standard. The only thing a new TV really needs to do, to be capable of being considered "3D Ready", is decode and display an HDMI 1.4 signal. So I don't see these things going the way of the dinosaur... I just don't see it. Once the communication protocols between the glasses and TVs are standardized (allowing for the creation of "universal glasses"), there's no reason why all major TVs in the future shouldn't be 3D Ready, whether or not the consumer chooses to use its 3D capabilities.

[QUOTE="WiiMan21"]

Didn't the PS2 sell the most for a system?

ThePlothole

Yeah, PS2 still leads by about 24 million units. Though it's also been on the market for considerably longer.

Yes. But also the DS has been through many more revisions than the PS2...

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]

Its a flip flop!

Its the SW way.

WTH dont yall want graphics from nintendo but now its not what yall want?

especially you tomarlyn you want a wii2 bad so i dont get it they are doing exactly what you "hardcore" fans love so much.graphics

I don't really care about how it will sell.

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="nintendoman562"] It sort of is, it's 3D on a handheld without glasses. Can you name another device that does such a thing? It's like how the DS was the first mainstream handheld device with a touch screen. Now everything has a touch screen.Mario1331

whats the prinicple 3d without glasses?

if they stayed a gen behind yall would slam it but now they bring it to the table yall slamming it again?this is worst then the psp-3ds debate about ports (which really doesnt make no sense)

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"] But 3D is pure eye candy and nothing else, sheep slammed the 360 and PS3 for adding nothing this gen but ''teh bettar grafix''. 3DS is just a more powerful DS with an analogue stick. Even though I can't wait for 3DS and will be a day one buyer, its only fair to call out those Wii fanboys on principle.tomarlyn

whats the prinicple 3d without glasses?

if they stayed a gen behind yall would slam it but now they bring it to the table yall slamming it again?this is worst then the psp-3ds debate about ports (which really doesnt make no sense)

oh yea thats true and sorry about the bad grammar i just woke up from a nap before then(dont judge me):)

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"]They truly are the innovative and marketing geniuses of the video gaming world...ya' gotta' admit they dominated E3 with there 3DS showing, i don't even own a portable right now but i am chomping at the bit with impatience, i cannot wait to buy this portable and i'll happily pay $250.00 or more if thats what it costs. They not only added a better thumbstick control than the PSP's nub stick, but they also upped the processor and rest of the hardware for even better graphics, and they showed the world that 3D gaming and movie watching is possible without the need for 3D glasses. I am sold....I will be a total supporter of not only Nintendo's upcoming portable but there next gen console too, what ever it may be.Coolyfett

Slimmin360? 3DS being the best ever? How can you say this? Sony has not released any infomation. You are a Nintendo supporter butCoolyfett iscurious about your SN, your account level and motive behind this type of post. Never seen a level 2 member have this sort of confidence. I take it you had another account on Gamespot? The usage of the PSP is something Coolyfett does everyday, everyday for almost 3 years strait. As a matter of fact Coolyfett was just playing Rayman lastnight on his PSP. You may want to give the PSP a try its an enjoyable system. It can hold you down will you wait for the next series from the Nintendo firm.

just because they are lv 2 dont mean they are new to gaming.

i played the psp and well got bored with it the first 5 minutes not the same with ds

PSP2 will blow the 3DS away.gamebreakerz__

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]PSP2 will blow the 3DS away.King_Dodongo

They truly are the innovative and marketing geniuses of the video gaming world...ya' gotta' admit they dominated E3 with there 3DS showing, i don't even own a portable right now but i am chomping at the bit with impatience, i cannot wait to buy this portable and i'll happily pay $250.00 or more if thats what it costs. They not only added a better thumbstick control than the PSP's nub stick, but they also upped the processor and rest of the hardware for even better graphics, and they showed the world that 3D gaming and movie watching is possible without the need for 3D glasses. I am sold....I will be a total supporter of not only Nintendo's upcoming portable but there next gen console too, what ever it may be.Slimmin360

Yes. But also the DS has been through many more revisions than the PS2...

Urworstnhtmare

Not really. What we first got in the west was a revision which added in the expansion bay (the original Japanese model used an external hard drive), built-in DVD playback (originally it needed software loaded to a memory card), and little rubber feet on the side to help it stand up vertically without aid. Later Sony made another significant revision which added a built-in IR receiver (originally the DVD remote came with an accessory that plugged into a controller port), playback of DVD-Rs, progressive scan support for DVDs, removed the FireWire port, and incorporated a much quieter fan. Then they introduced the PS2 slim, and more recently revised this with an internal power supply. And then there was the PSX.

[QUOTE="King_Dodongo"][QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]PSP2 will blow the 3DS away.gamebreakerz__

When a hand held can reach the the graphics of a console of the same gen... i may consider a handheld... untill then.. screw that

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="King_Dodongo"] Is that a joke?InfinityMugen

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="King_Dodongo"] Is that a joke?InfinityMugen

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"]They truly are the innovative and marketing geniuses of the video gaming world...ya' gotta' admit they dominated E3 with there 3DS showing, i don't even own a portable right now but i am chomping at the bit with impatience, i cannot wait to buy this portable and i'll happily pay $250.00 or more if thats what it costs. They not only added a better thumbstick control than the PSP's nub stick, but they also upped the processor and rest of the hardware for even better graphics, and they showed the world that 3D gaming and movie watching is possible without the need for 3D glasses. I am sold....I will be a total supporter of not only Nintendo's upcoming portable but there next gen console too, what ever it may be.Coolyfett

Slimmin360? 3DS being the best ever? How can you say this? Sony has not released any infomation. You are a Nintendo supporter butCoolyfett iscurious about your SN, your account level and motive behind this type of post. Never seen a level 2 member have this sort of confidence. I take it you had another account on Gamespot? The usage of the PSP is something Coolyfett does everyday, everyday for almost 3 years strait. As a matter of fact Coolyfett was just playing Rayman lastnight on his PSP. You may want to give the PSP a try its an enjoyable system. It can hold you down will you wait for the next series from the Nintendo firm.

When a hand held can reach the the graphics of a console of the same gen... i may consider a handheld... untill then.. ***** ****.

Aboogie5

Well TurboExpress was literally a TurboGrafx, and the 3DS might just be similarly capable to the Wii. Now if you mean compared to the high end of the spectrum... it will never happen. The parts are just too big, they need too much power, and generate too much heat. And with all three being increasingly true with newer systems it's going to be a lot longer before handhelds can even come close to this level of performance.

But to dismiss handhelds simply because they lack high end graphical capabilities is really missing the point. Handhelds can be played many more places than a home console. They can be thrown in a backpack, purse, or briefcase and pulled out whenever there is a free moment.

Since when were sales the most important thing? That's like saying the wii is the best console, it makes no sense.gamebreakerz__

I remember when heavy emphasis was placed on the PS1 and PS2 sales.

[QUOTE="King_Dodongo"][QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]PSP2 will blow the 3DS away.gamebreakerz__

[QUOTE="King_Dodongo"][QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]PSP2 will blow the 3DS away.gamebreakerz__

I really hope its not... I want a good batterlife and a handheld thatll actually fit comfortably in my hand

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="King_Dodongo"] Is that a joke?VendettaRed07

I really hope its not... I want a good batterlife and a handheld thatll actually fit comfortably in my hand

Please man, a tank-like exterior and 2 hour battery life will compliment the system :P

Since when were sales the most important thing? That's like saying the wii is the best console, it makes no sense.gamebreakerz__

I remember when heavy emphasis was placed on the PS1 and PS2 sales.

Yes but those were also the most or equally powerful system at the time.gamebreakerz__

The N64 was more powerful, and GCN and X box destroyed the PS2.

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

I'm talking about in terms of power and it's quite obvious that the PSP2 will be far more powerful than the 3DS.gamebreakerz__

I really hope its not... I want a good batterlife and a handheld thatll actually fit comfortably in my hand

Please man, a tank-like exterior and 2 hour battery life will compliment the system :P

[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

I really hope its not... I want a good batterlife and a handheld thatll actually fit comfortably in my hand

gamebreakerz__

Please man, a tank-like exterior and 2 hour battery life will compliment the system :P

I was just messin'. The 3DS is apparently pretty powerful and it will probably have a 9 hour battery life and it isn't too bulky. PSP2 will probably be like the original PSP. 5 hour battery life, and kind of big.

I know it is weird to consider the DS not a tank. The original would look like one if you put the gun, and wheels on it.

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]Since when were sales the most important thing? That's like saying the wii is the best console, it makes no sense.gamebreakerz__

I remember when heavy emphasis was placed on the PS1 and PS2 sales.

:lol: no :|

This is the first gen Sony have had the most powerful console on the market, unless you include the couple of months before the xbox and gamecube launched. The N64 was far more impressive than the PS1 from a perspective of raw power alone, and both the other consoles were vastly superior to the PS2 last gen.

Im sure you will argue which is even funnier since you constantly highlight the PS3's slight edge when the N64/xbox and PS1/PS2 gap was far larger and actually impacted things like game environment sizes.

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="King_Dodongo"] Is that a joke?King_Dodongo

You need to read that again lol.

Yes but those were also the most or equally powerful system at the time.gamebreakerz__

PS1 was way behind the N64 in overall graphical power. The only thing that made up for that was disc space, which made storing textures and prerendered backgrounds more practical. PS2 was noticeably weaker than the GCN and Xbox.

My PSP 1000 gets about 5 hours life still on its ancient battery and to say the PSP is a tank and the DS isn't is a bit weird because niether of them are particularly nifty. And BTW, the DS weighs more than the PSP.gamebreakerz__

I just weighed my PSP-1000 (with standard battery) and DS Lite. Both with a game inserted. The former came in at 10.3 oz, while the latter only at 7.8oz.

More important though is the width of the units. A DS Lite is roughly an inch shorter than a PSP. This makes all the difference when stowing the handheld in a pocket.

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]Yes but those were also the most or equally powerful system at the time.ThePlothole

PS1 was way behind the N64 in overall graphical power. The only thing that made up for that was disc space, which made storing textures and prerendered backgrounds more practical. PS2 was noticeably weaker than the GCN and Xbox.

My PSP 1000 gets about 5 hours life still on its ancient battery and to say the PSP is a tank and the DS isn't is a bit weird because niether of them are particularly nifty. And BTW, the DS weighs more than the PSP.gamebreakerz__

I just weighed my PSP-1000 (with standard battery) and DS Lite. Both with a game inserted. The former came in at 10.3 oz, while the latter only at 7.8oz.

Yes but thats a DS Lite and PSP 1000, try a PSP slim and DS lite. The original DS was heavier than the the original PSP as well.gamebreakerz__

Well I don't have an original DS, but the official specs list it as 9.7oz.

Also note that I said standard battery. In order to get anywhere near the DS in battery life, you really need an extended battery for the PSP.

[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] I'm talking about in terms of power and it's quite obvious that the PSP2 will be far more powerful than the 3DS.gamebreakerz__

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="InfinityMugen"] Yeah. Because that sure helped it beat the DS...woops.

The 3DS isn't a console its a portable system that ad's very little to the hand held market

it tries to cash in on the recent 3d hype for movies an finally upgrades its graphics card past the n64 which is a plus but its not going to change the way we game i bet this system sells less then the DS imo

The 3DS isn't a console its a portable system that ad's very little to the hand held market

it tries to cash in on the recent 3d hype for movies an finally upgrades its graphics card past the n64 which is a plus but its not going to change the way we game i bet this system sells less then the DS imo

ZarbonX

It is a handheld console.

You know Sony is cashing in on that exact same "3D hype" by producing 3DTVs, adding 3DTV support to the PS3 and patching several PSN titles to take advantage of it.

It may sell like pancakesbut that doesnt mean its the best or greatest.

Besides, its all down to the games.
PSP gets shunned most of the time whilstit has games that put the DS to shame when we all know, spec wise, PSP is the best.

Anyway, didnt Microsoft plan to cash into the handheld market as well?

Oh yeah because the N64 and Gamecube just lit up the sales charts. This is their first gen after two unsuccessful ones where they are back on top. To call them marketing kings then Sony must also be included.

Ragnarok1051

It'll be a high seller for sure, but there's no doubt Apple took some of that casual market away. I doubt it'll topple the original DS in sales.

wait the 3ds is a console? is it a portable console?

TheShadowLord07

Those were my thoughts isn't the 3DS a handheld not a console? Also as far as innovation goes Sony is putting 3D on a real console not a portable console. Just throwing that out there, and I'm not even a big fan of 3D.

Again? They haven't even outsold the PS2 yet. :|Rockman999

I have my doubts that they ever will, quite frankly they're what about half way there? Wii sales, around 75 million units? My guess is the Wii lifetime will be about 2 more years before the new Wii, of course sales will continue for the next two years and beyond even once the new Wii is released, but there are already significant signs of a dropoff. It all comes down to how well the Wii does over the next few holiday seasons and imo almost everyone who wants a Wii has one. It will pick up a few sales around holiday times and when the next Zelda game is released other than that no reason for Wii sales to go anywhere but down.

[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

wait the 3ds is a console? is it a portable console?

TacticalDesire

Those were my thoughts isn't the 3DS a handheld not a console? Also as far as innovation goes Sony is putting 3D on a real console not a portable console. Just throwing that out there, and I'm not even a big fan of 3D.

There are two types of consoles: "handheld game console" and "home game console". The former is usually just shortened to handheld. But they both fall under the general term "console".

They are pretty insanely succesful this gen... I don't even care about portables and I'm pretty excited to play the 3DS...locopatho