Nintendo is making TWO new Zelda games

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You've probably heard the old chestnut about Shigeru Miyamoto discovering a cave while exploring the fields around his childhood home in Kyoto. He's cited this experience as his inspiration for The Legend of Zelda series, which, from the very start, has placed players in a giant, unexplored world and rewarded them for poking and prodding every corner for a secret. It took courage to stray too far from the easy monsters in The Legend of Zelda for NES, but the urge to discover what was just beyond the forest maze - or behind a suspicious wall in a dungeon - was irresistible. The feeling of discovery and wonder is integral to the series' best games, from the twin timelines of A Link to the Past to the 3D landscapes of Ocarina of Time and the expansive waters of the Wind Waker - and it's almost completely absent in Skyward Sword.


Skyward Sword is a small game; which isn't to say it isn't lengthy or full of great content. It is just geographically small. There are three dense areas to explore; a woods, a volcano and a desert; and a sparsely populated "hub world" in the sky. You never set off into the wilds of Hyrule in Skyward Sword, you follow a sort of magical radar from one location to the next location, solve some puzzles, kill some monsters find an item and then move on. After doing this for a bit, you go back and do it all again,in the same places. Everything, right down to the game's hidden items, can eventually be found with your radar-like sword, if you haven't stumbled across them already on your third mandatory visit to an area.

I could go on about the sense of "discovery and wonder" that is lost in Skyward Sword, but in truth, many traditional Zelda elements have just been distilled, condensed and streamlined into different, but still pretty awesome, experiences. I'd call it a "Zelda-like" experience. The most Zelda-like aspects, like dungeon puzzles and sword combat, are reinvigorated by some pretty amazing gameplay. Skyward Sword fulfills the promise of motion controls thatNintendohas failed for years to make good on.

So the should Nintendo EAD be given a pass for creating a sort of Zelda "offshoot," much like Majora's Mask? Absolutely, here are three reasons why: 1) It's a fantastic game 2) The Wii's hardware (storage size, resolution) is significantly limiting 3) Nintendo is working on at least two other Zelda games right now, and I can't wait to see them.IGN

I hope one of them (most likely the 3DS one) is a top down adventure in the vein of A Link to the Past.

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Please let it be new child link design this time, we haven't got a new design since 2003, for wii u i'm not really interested at the graphics i'm interested what nintendo can do that they haven't done before.
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Please let it be new child link design this time, we haven't got a new design since 2003, for wii u i'm not really interested at the graphics i'm interested what nintendo can do that they haven't done before.Enforcedspot
The way I see it, on the consoles, Nintendo now continues the 'realistic' Zelda styIe in the vein of Twilight Princess, whereas on the handhelds, the cell shaded/2D top down Zelda styIe is continued, thus splitting the series very evenly into two groups, kind of like 3D Mario/2D Mario.
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Please let it be new child link design this time, we haven't got a new design since 2003, for wii u i'm not really interested at the graphics i'm interested what nintendo can do that they haven't done before.Enforcedspot

This would be a cool design for a child link:

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You mean Zelda 3D and Zelda HD? Sure, sign me up.
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[QUOTE="Enforcedspot"]Please let it be new child link design this time, we haven't got a new design since 2003, for wii u i'm not really interested at the graphics i'm interested what nintendo can do that they haven't done before.charizard1605
The way I see it, on the consoles, Nintendo now continues the 'realistic' Zelda styIe in the vein of Twilight Princess, whereas on the handhelds, the cell shaded/2D top down Zelda styIe is continued, thus splitting the series very evenly into two groups, kind of like 3D Mario/2D Mario.

I really hope they don't do to much of realistic style on the console version, i hope they find the way to make a graphics tohave a anime feel. in my opinion.

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You mean Zelda 3D and Zelda HD? Sure, sign me up.crippled_ram
Whoa, I never even thought of it that way :shock:
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So one flopped game wasn't enough for Nintendo, and now they want two more flops!

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Enforcedspot"]Please let it be new child link design this time, we haven't got a new design since 2003, for wii u i'm not really interested at the graphics i'm interested what nintendo can do that they haven't done before.Enforcedspot

The way I see it, on the consoles, Nintendo now continues the 'realistic' Zelda styIe in the vein of Twilight Princess, whereas on the handhelds, the cell shaded/2D top down Zelda styIe is continued, thus splitting the series very evenly into two groups, kind of like 3D Mario/2D Mario.

I really hope they don't do to much of realistic styleon the console version, i hope they find the way to make a graphics tohave a anime feel. in my opinion.

The anime feel can continue and live on on the handhelds. I really think that with all the power that they have, they should make a realistic Zelda. In any case, their fanbase on the consoles is more likely to buy a realistic Zelda than a cartoony one. The handheld fanbase on the other hand is likelier to buy a 2D topdown/ cell shaded Zelda game.
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I really hope it's a new 3D game for the 3DS.

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I really hope it's a new 3D game for the 3DS.

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One for the 3DS, one for the Wii U. As someone else said above, Zelda 3D and Zelda HD.
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#12 Barsy7
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So more rehashes?

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So more rehashes?

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Yep.
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You know, Reading that makes me kinda think that Gamespot actually Reviewed Skyward Sword correctly.

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So more rehashes?

Barsy7

Could be worse. Could be exact clones with new names like MW1-3 or Uncharted 1-3. :roll:

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The anime feel can continue and live on on the handhelds. I really think that with all the power that they have, they should make a realistic Zelda. In any case, their fanbase on the consoles is more likely to buy a realistic Zelda than a cartoony one. The handheld fanbase on the other hand is likelier to buy a 2D topdown/ cell shaded Zelda game.

Oh ok i understand besides i'm already excited for the next zelda on wii u even that i didn't finish skyward sword :P, I wonder how nintendo is going to do with the 3DS Aonuma gave a hint from gameinformer "I'll will be a game in which having 3D will mean something." I'm sure they won't give us like PH or ST, but i have no idea what he means.

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You know, Reading that makes me kinda think that Gamespot actually Reviewed Skyward Sword correctly.

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Oh crap. I'm already having this discussion in another thread, but... I haven't even started Skyward Sword yet, and all these mixed/slightly negative impressions make me afraid.
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[QUOTE="Barsy7"]

So more rehashes?

ChubbyGuy40

Could be worse. Could be exact clones with new names like MW1-3 or Uncharted 1-3. :roll:

Blinded by nostalgia. CoD and Uncharted have advanced this gen more than any Nintendo game has. That is why we see those sequels, cause they are so good. The rehash label does not apply to hardcore titles.

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Majoras Mask remake and Link to the Past style game. PLEEEEEAAAASE.
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="Barsy7"]

So more rehashes?

Barsy7

Could be worse. Could be exact clones with new names like MW1-3 or Uncharted 1-3. :roll:

Blinded by nostalgia. CoD and Uncharted have advanced this gen more than any Nintendo game has. That is why we see those sequels, cause they are so good. The rehash label does not apply to hardcore titles.

You're right. Nintendo should take the hint and stop making their ridiculous rehashes that no one cares about.
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So more rehashes?

Barsy7

and the zelda fanboys wouldnt want it any other way

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So let me get this straight, Nintendo already has plans for TWO Zeldas and Mario Kart WiiU but has shown no intention of reinventing its other franchises?

Its a good thing Pikman 3 and Kid Icarus are in the works because I don't know how long I can stand just Mario and Zelda games.

( and if the rumors about sega working with nintendo are true,PLEASE let it be F-zero!)

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[QUOTE="Barsy7"]

So more rehashes?

arbitor365

and the zelda fanboys wouldnt want it any other way

You enjoying Rehashtince 3 Arbutthort365?
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Blinded by nostalgia. CoD and Uncharted have advanced this gen more than any Nintendo game has. That is why we see those sequels, cause they are so good. The rehash label does not apply to hardcore titles.

Barsy7

Super Mario Galaxy was a damn huge advancement. Let me know when one of those games even come close to touching the perfection of SMG. You see sequels because of sales. Companies like Sony and Activision don't give a damn how good the game is. :lol: Implying those two casual games even come close to being called hardcore only shows how little of a gamer you truly are.

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So let me get this straight, Nintendo already has plans for TWO Zeldas and Mario Kart WiiU but has shown no intention of reinventing its other franchises?

Its a good thing Pikman 3 and Kid Icarus are in the works because I don't know how long I can stand just Mario and Zelda games.

( and if the rumors about sega working with nintendo are true,PLEASE let it be F-zero!)

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I think Retro is supposed to be working on a new F-Zero.
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[QUOTE="Enforcedspot"]Please let it be new child link design this time, we haven't got a new design since 2003, for wii u i'm not really interested at the graphics i'm interested what nintendo can do that they haven't done before.Kandlegoat

This would be a cool design for a child link:

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[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

[QUOTE="Barsy7"]

So more rehashes?

Slashless

and the zelda fanboys wouldnt want it any other way

You enjoying Rehashtince 3 Arbutthort365?

I think he's too busy playing Blurzone 3.

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So let me get this straight, Nintendo already has plans for TWO Zeldas and Mario Kart WiiU but has shown no intention of reinventing its other franchises?

Its a good thing Pikman 3 and Kid Icarus are in the works because I don't know how long I can stand just Mario and Zelda games.

( and if the rumors about sega working with nintendo are true,PLEASE let it be F-zero!)

Techn0holic89

Move to the ps3 or 360. Naughty Dog and Epic proved how much they can branch out.

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Move to the ps3 or 360. Naughty Dog and Epic proved how much they can branch out.

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An Indiana Jones clone and super-serious-and-buff-military-dude.

Yep, so innovative and unique.

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[QUOTE="Techn0holic89"]

So let me get this straight, Nintendo already has plans for TWO Zeldas and Mario Kart WiiU but has shown no intention of reinventing its other franchises?

Its a good thing Pikman 3 and Kid Icarus are in the works because I don't know how long I can stand just Mario and Zelda games.

( and if the rumors about sega working with nintendo are true,PLEASE let it be F-zero!)

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I think Retro is supposed to be working on a new F-Zero.

Where did you hear this?
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Give me a Zelda game that looks like the Tech Demo from e3 and bring back a completely open world... I don't ask for much. lol.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Techn0holic89"]

So let me get this straight, Nintendo already has plans for TWO Zeldas and Mario Kart WiiU but has shown no intention of reinventing its other franchises?

Its a good thing Pikman 3 and Kid Icarus are in the works because I don't know how long I can stand just Mario and Zelda games.

( and if the rumors about sega working with nintendo are true,PLEASE let it be F-zero!)

Techn0holic89

I think Retro is supposed to be working on a new F-Zero.

Where did you hear this?

Retro went to state they're working on a Wii-U title "everybody wants them to do." The other rumor is DKCR2, since the dev website for Wii-U was showing DK. Maybe having them do Mario Kart 7 tracks was a test-run to see how well they'd handle F-Zero. :o

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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="Barsy7"]

So more rehashes?

Barsy7

Could be worse. Could be exact clones with new names like MW1-3 or Uncharted 1-3. :roll:

Blinded by nostalgia. CoD and Uncharted have advanced this gen more than any Nintendo game has. That is why we see those sequels, cause they are so good. The rehash label does not apply to hardcore titles.

that is something people forget. in the case of uncharted, it has pretty much reached the pinnacle of what it can accomplish with current gen console hardware and so each game's campaign has focused on fresh setpeices and new crazy scenarios to put the player through.

SS is not at the pinnacle of anything. and if someone thinks that its the best that the zelda series could possibly be at this point, than apparently their expectations for the series arent as high as mine.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Techn0holic89"]

So let me get this straight, Nintendo already has plans for TWO Zeldas and Mario Kart WiiU but has shown no intention of reinventing its other franchises?

Its a good thing Pikman 3 and Kid Icarus are in the works because I don't know how long I can stand just Mario and Zelda games.

( and if the rumors about sega working with nintendo are true,PLEASE let it be F-zero!)

Techn0holic89
I think Retro is supposed to be working on a new F-Zero.

Where did you hear this?

In an interview where they were asked what projects their fans wanted them to do the most, they mentioned F-Zero and Star Fox. In the same interview, they said they were working on something the fans wanted them to work on. I'll try and find a link.
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[QUOTE="Barsy7"]

Move to the ps3 or 360. Naughty Dog and Epic proved how much they can branch out.

ChubbyGuy40

An Indiana Jones clone and super-serious-and-buff-military-dude.

Yep, so innovative and unique.

Though he's exaggerating, you're kinda discrediting them. They have made other games.

Anyway, I'm not sure how to feel about 2 new Zelda games. At one point it's great, but on the other, it shows Nintendo's lack in new creations.

I guess we'll see in the future.

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[QUOTE="Techn0holic89"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] I think Retro is supposed to be working on a new F-Zero.charizard1605
Where did you hear this?

In an interview where they were asked what projects their fans wanted them to do the most, they mentioned F-Zero and Star Fox. In the same interview, they said they were working on something the fans wanted them to work on. I'll try and find a link.

oh man that'll be awesome retro studios is one of my favorite developers

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[QUOTE="Techn0holic89"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] I think Retro is supposed to be working on a new F-Zero.ChubbyGuy40

Where did you hear this?

Retro went to state they're working on a Wii-U title "everybody wants them to do." The other rumor is DKCR2, since the dev website for Wii-U was showing DK. Maybe having them do Mario Kart 7 tracks was a test-run to see how well they'd handle F-Zero. :o

IDK, the wording of that quote seems to point to Metroid WiiU, I remember everyone disappointed by the recent Metroid game and crying for Retro to work on it again

However if it turns out to be true..... :)

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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="Techn0holic89"] Where did you hear this?Techn0holic89

Retro went to state they're working on a Wii-U title "everybody wants them to do." The other rumor is DKCR2, since the dev website for Wii-U was showing DK. Maybe having them do Mario Kart 7 tracks was a test-run to see how well they'd handle F-Zero. :o

IDK, the wording of that quote seems to point to Metroid WiiU, I remember everyone disappointed by the recent Metroid game and crying for Retro to work on it again

However if it turns out to be true..... :)

I'll be very happy if it's Metroid Prime 4 (HD), to be honest.
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[QUOTE="Barsy7"]

Blinded by nostalgia. CoD and Uncharted have advanced this gen more than any Nintendo game has. That is why we see those sequels, cause they are so good. The rehash label does not apply to hardcore titles.

ChubbyGuy40

Super Mario Galaxy was a damn huge advancement. Let me know when one of those games even come close to touching the perfection of SMG. You see sequels because of sales. Companies like Sony and Activision don't give a damn how good the game is. :lol: Implying those two casual games even come close to being called hardcore only shows how little of a gamer you truly are.

Sony caters to what gamers this gen want. They have delivered unlike Nintendo, who of which is stuck in the past. Judgement day for them is coming.

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Though he's exaggerating, you're kinda discrediting them. They have made other games.

Anyway, I'm not sure how to feel about 2 new Zelda games. At one point it's great, but on the other, it shows Nintendo's lack in new creations.

I guess we'll see in the future.

TrapJak

That's the point! If he can make one game seem insignificant, I can do so with his so called "games." :P

Miyamoto at the head of the Wii-U one, and the other guy at the head of the 3DS one. I'd love to see a new kid Link (Not toon link, not a big fan) game similar to MM. Would love to see a new TP kind of game on Wii-U.

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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="Techn0holic89"] Where did you hear this?Techn0holic89

Retro went to state they're working on a Wii-U title "everybody wants them to do." The other rumor is DKCR2, since the dev website for Wii-U was showing DK. Maybe having them do Mario Kart 7 tracks was a test-run to see how well they'd handle F-Zero. :o

IDK, the wording of that quote seems to point to Metroid WiiU, I remember everyone disappointed by the recent Metroid game and crying for Retro to work on it again

However if it turns out to be true..... :)

I'm thinking a new Metroid myself.

I'll be surprised if it's not.

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#42 ChubbyGuy40
Member since 2007 • 26442 Posts

Sony caters to what gamers this gen want. They have delivered unlike Nintendo, who of which is stuck in the past. Judgement day for them is coming.

Barsy7

Sony just copies whatever Nintendo does so they don't screw up. Stuck in the past how? By offering the best first party titles by a wide margin? So sad you're stuck with crappy movie games and bad multiplat FPSes. Funny how Judgment Day is supposed to be comming to the most successful of the big three.

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#43 Barsy7
Member since 2010 • 242 Posts

[QUOTE="Barsy7"]

Move to the ps3 or 360. Naughty Dog and Epic proved how much they can branch out.

ChubbyGuy40

An Indiana Jones clone and super-serious-and-buff-military-dude.

Yep, so innovative and unique.

Those games had more options than jumping on a turtle or fighting Ganon for the 20th time. Uncharted's mix of platforming and gunplay is brillant. Gears hit a high note with superb gameplay and a heartbreaking story.

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#44 ChubbyGuy40
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I'm thinking a new Metroid myself.

I'll be surprised if it's not.

Kandlegoat

I'd be happy just with another Retro title.

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#45 Kandlegoat
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[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]

I'm thinking a new Metroid myself.

I'll be surprised if it's not.

ChubbyGuy40

I'd be happy just with another Retro title.

Same.

Retro makes good sh*t

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[QUOTE="Techn0holic89"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Retro went to state they're working on a Wii-U title "everybody wants them to do." The other rumor is DKCR2, since the dev website for Wii-U was showing DK. Maybe having them do Mario Kart 7 tracks was a test-run to see how well they'd handle F-Zero. :o

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IDK, the wording of that quote seems to point to Metroid WiiU, I remember everyone disappointed by the recent Metroid game and crying for Retro to work on it again

However if it turns out to be true..... :)

I'm thinking a new Metroid myself.

I'll be surprised if it's not.

That franchise has been too unprofitable for Nintendo lately for them to push it much anymore. Maybe on handhelds, yes, but...
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#47 ChubbyGuy40
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Those games had more options than jumping on a turtle or fighting Ganon for the 20th time. Uncharted's mix of platforming and gunplay is brillant. Gears hit a high note with superb gameplay and a heartbreaking story.

Barsy7

Like shooting another guy, or some bigger boss man? Uncharted's platforming sucks and is severely crippled by having no freedom in where to go. Why? Just so "it feels more like a movie."

Heartbreaking story? Try reading The Cat in the Hat. It has a deeper story than 99% of games today. If you think Gears has a touching story, you'd cry your f'ing eyes out reading something of third grade level.

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#48 ChubbyGuy40
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That franchise has been too unprofitable for Nintendo lately for them to push it much anymore. Maybe on handhelds, yes, but...charizard1605

Even Other M turned a profit, just not as much as they hoped :lol:

Fund another Prime, and Retro WILL deliver. I'd bet they'd surpass Crysis visuals on Wii-U. :o

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#49 Barsy7
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] That franchise has been too unprofitable for Nintendo lately for them to push it much anymore. Maybe on handhelds, yes, but...ChubbyGuy40

Even Other M turned a profit, just not as much as they hoped :lol:

Fund another Prime, and Retro WILL deliver. I'd bet they'd surpass Crysis visuals on Wii-U. :o

I agree with you here. Send those franchises over to western shores. Innovation is sure to come as a result.

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#50 Renegade_Fury
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Good to know. The more Zelda the better. :)