Nintendo rebooted Zelda, Sony rebooted God of War, will MS reboot Halo?

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Poll Nintendo rebooted Zelda, Sony rebooted God of War, will MS reboot Halo? (55 votes)

Yes, Halo is in need of a reboot. 55%
I wouldn't mind it, but it's not necessary 27%
Nah, the series is fine as it is. 18%

I'm voting option one. Halo can save the Xbox brand, they just need to make it a top notch FPS again. I think it can even compete with the likes of Overwatch if done right. What do you say, SW? Is Halo in need of a reboot? Or is it not necessary?

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#1 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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Maybe a big budget spin-off.

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#2 deactivated-5ebea105efb64
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Otogi series.

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#3  Edited By Calvincfb
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Yes and it'll have a extraterrestrial farming simulator on it with all of its mighty et glory.

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#4 rafaelmsoares
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They'll reboot it as a low budget game to be released for free on launch on gamepass...

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#5 PCgameruk
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Halo won't safe MS they need new IP's. Maybe they shouldn't of closed so many studios last gen.

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#6  Edited By MonsieurX
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Please define reboot.

They only did a sequel

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#7 Bread_or_Decide
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Halo and Gears.

Put Gears in first person and Halo in third person.

DO IT! LET'S GET NUTS!

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#8 robert_sparkes
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Halo in 3rd person would certainly reboot the series I doubt ms would take the risk to be honest.

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#9 2Chalupas
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What they need is a new IP. Last gen they had Gears (which I personally found disgustingly overrated and the 1st one aged horrendously, but it was at least a "good" franchise and a huge sales success).

This gen??? They barely even have any good games, let alone created a new massive franchise. I get that it's hard to create a massively successful franchise like Gears, but if you aren't even cranking out a number of quality games there is basically no chance. Seems Sunset overdrive was what they pinned their hopes one. That was a 3rd party game that was good, but was a sales flop. After that, seemed like they soured on their 3rd party deals. Problem is after what the did with their 1st party there was nothing to fall back on.

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#10  Edited By robert_sparkes
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They need to invest and create new 1st party studios. I understand it takes time so they should pay and get 3rd party exclusives even timed until they create new studios and IP.

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#11 deactivated-642321fb121ca
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They need to go back to the first one and recognise they need a decent campaign, it was never multiplayer focused.

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#12 Bread_or_Decide
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@Random_Matt said:

They need to go back to the first one and recognise they need a decent campaign, it was never multiplayer focused.

HALO? WUT?

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#13  Edited By robert_sparkes
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I agree I think they got so caught up in the multiplayer that the campaign the meat and potatoes of the franchise suffered.

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#14 PSP107
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@PCgameruk: "Halo won't safe MS they need new IP's. Maybe they shouldn't of closed so many studios last gen."

Well with that said, MSoft should just reboot the Xbox brand itself.

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#15  Edited By Shewgenja
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At the point that Cortana becomes the bad guy, yeah, the creative juices ran dry on that shit. That is one gaming plot that I almost wouldn't mind ret-conning or just ignoring altogether going forward. The Warden was also half-baked AF, especially for an enemy you face like five times. Halo 5 was a disc full of fuckit if you don't count the MP.

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#16 Basinboy
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BotW doesn't really strike me as significant a change in formula as what GoW appears to be attempting, but it's an argument worth exploring. Can't really speak to GoW yet, not until it comes out at least.

As for Halo, I don't know what they're going to do after the pile of BS the most recent game's SP was. But in a somewhat more limited sense, Halo 5 did get a gameplay makeover not unlike the other two games mentioned.

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#17 X_CAPCOM_X
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@Random_Matt said:

They need to go back to the first one and recognise they need a decent campaign, it was never multiplayer focused.

While I agree that Halo 1 had the best story, mp was a huge part of the halo series. You could link multiple xboxes up for a lan party.

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#18 HalcyonScarlet
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I don't see it happening. MS are a bit obsessed with cash cowing everything. Once they get a good formula, they won't really do anything drastic to it.

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#19 drummerdave9099
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I just want a Halo game without loadouts, and where all the battle rifles aren't mini sniper rifles.

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#20 deactivated-642321fb121ca
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@X_CAPCOM_X said:
@Random_Matt said:

They need to go back to the first one and recognise they need a decent campaign, it was never multiplayer focused.

While I agree that Halo 1 had the best story, mp was a huge part of the halo series. You could link multiple xboxes up for a lan party.

Didn't know that. Wish i knew then though.

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@Bread_or_Decide said:
@Random_Matt said:

They need to go back to the first one and recognise they need a decent campaign, it was never multiplayer focused.

HALO? WUT?

I agree that it wasn't initially MP focused, but somehow they created one of the best MP experiences ever with CE. They need to go back and refine that MP and forget where they've led the series.

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#22 nepu7supastar7
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God of War PS4 is *not* a reboot. It's a direct sequel to God of War 3.

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#23 Archangel3371
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Nah, I don’t think it’s necessary. If it does happen it definitely won’t be with the next game.

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#24  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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@Random_Matt said:

They need to go back to the first one and recognise they need a decent campaign, it was never multiplayer focused.

This.

The MP in Halo 5 is fantastic (even though I didn't play much of it - not my thing). But the campaign was meh. They just need to put more emphasis back onto the SP and make a proper Halo campaign like the earlier games. 343 have the capability of doing it, because I thought Halo 4's campaign was excellent (and the reviews agree).

They don't need to "reboot" it as such, but just go back to Halo's roots & focus more on SP with the likes of a cool story and maybe flesh out the characters more.

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#25  Edited By tgob89
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MS is rebooting Fable.

It's playground games would be "Horizon Zero Dawn" esk title and I'm interested to see what they show of it at E3.

I just hope it's not all just CGI smoke and mirrors.

I feel PlayGround Games is the most talented group of devs that work exclusively with MS and I am sure they could make something really great.

I just hope MS doesn't try **** it up with their idiotic micromanaging they've been known to do when devs are trying to make games for them in the past.

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#26  Edited By Alucard_Prime
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Many people including myself consider Halo 5 to be a reboot of sorts, but most of the successful changes happened on the Multiplayer side of things. The game had a target of 60 fps and the gameplay was significantly overhauled in order to make it more E-Sports worthy.

This angered many core fans by the way, I remember all the complaints on the official board and such. For instance, many people complained about the addition of Sprinting, and what 343 did to balance it out was add a 2nd recharge bar that would not let you recharge shields while sprinting. Any time you make big changes to a high-profile series like that, you will get a percentage of the core fans unhappy....the question is how many? Make too many big changes, and risk alienating the core audience that just want more of the same Halo. It's risky but personally I loved the changes to the gameplay, it fit more my playing style.

The campaign aspect is where it was less successful in its reboot, the new character they introduced did not have as much appeal as the Chief, and also the way the story was presented felt a little disjointed from mission to mission. The narrative was not that great for many people, I thought it was fine but I agree it is weaker than past entries. Next Halo should fine tune the Multiplayer, add a ton of content and modes, but do not make huge changes....focus a little more on the campaign and deliver stronger narrative. I think Halo 5 is overall amazing and the scope of the game is huge, they must have spent a lot of time carefully analysing each gameplay change and for Halo 6 I don't feel they need to do that as much, so they can focus more on content and a stronger campaign, but no reboot is required for me.

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#27 so_hai
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Turn it into one of those nonsense base-building, battle royale games. That's what people are hungry for.

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#28  Edited By nomadic8280
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The reboot already happened, except they called it “Destiny”.

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#29  Edited By ToonLonk
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GoW may have been one, but Zelda was not a reboot. It was a new entry in a series that updates every 4-5 years, and BOTW did not take much longer.

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#30 SolidGame_basic
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@toonlonk said:

GoW may have been one, but Zelda was not a reboot. It was a new entry in a series that updates every 4-5 years, and BOTW did not take much longer.

I think, fundamentally, Breath of the Wild was a big change for the series. It was an update to cater to a now matured fan base. Things like voice acting, damaged weapons, jump button, the quest system, and a greater difficulty made it a substantially different game in the series. This was Nintendo re-envisioning the series in my opinion.

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#31 Ten_Pints
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Halo turret defence with battle royale and overwatch gameplay...

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#32  Edited By Epak_
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@Bread_or_Decide said:

Halo and Gears.

Put Gears in first person and Halo in third person.

DO IT! LET'S GET NUTS!

Something like this needs to be done, these series need a radical change.

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#33 R4gn4r0k
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They need to reboot their entire first and second party and come up with some new IP.

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#34 Bread_or_Decide
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@Epak_ said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:

Halo and Gears.

Put Gears in first person and Halo in third person.

DO IT! LET'S GET NUTS!

Something like this needs to be done, these series need a radical change.

Gears in first person would be absolutely amazing.

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#36 Epak_
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@Bread_or_Decide said:
@Epak_ said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:

Halo and Gears.

Put Gears in first person and Halo in third person.

DO IT! LET'S GET NUTS!

Something like this needs to be done, these series need a radical change.

Gears in first person would be absolutely amazing.

Could be, could also be quite mediocre, don't know, I'd like to see it though.

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#37 JoshRMeyer
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Halo Battle Royale... $60, 2 maps included.

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#38  Edited By ellos
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It's difficult for halo cause it glory heights was reached by the original team, Bungie. Latest vision and the way ms marketed it did not help. That bullshit uncover the truth Locke vs Master Chief did not help a game that packed a good mp.

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#39 pouriarjj
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tomb raider was a reboot, because the story started all over again

god of war and breath of the wild aren't reboots because they continue the story of the previous games, they just changed the core mechanics and the gameplay elements, which is what 343 did in halo 4 and everyone was mad and said it sucked.

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#40 Fairmonkey
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They should. The new halos are shit

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#41 dotWithShoes
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@nepu7supastar7 said:

God of War PS4 is *not* a reboot. It's a direct sequel to God of War 3.

So we're just gonna forget Ascension?

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#42 lifelessablaze
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They fucked up Halo beyond repair. They might as well give it to a better dev team to try something new.

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#43 nepu7supastar7
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@dotWithShoes:

God of War Ascension was a prequel to God of War 1

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#44 turtlethetaffer
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How did Nintendo reboot Zelda when almost every Zelda game is a brand new story?

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#45 lebanese_boy
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@turtlethetaffer said:

How did Nintendo reboot Zelda when almost every Zelda game is a brand new story?

Gameplay-wise and *SPOILER ALERT* the story doesn't seem to connect or fit at all with the timeline, basically they stopped trying to fit it in. In those respects you could kinda consider BoTW a sort-of reboot. But yeah it does follow this tradition of having its own unique story not necessitating any knowledge of past games.

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#46 turtlethetaffer
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@lebanese_boy: Fair enough, but Miyamoto has stated before that almost every single game in the series was designed around the gameplay and world first. I know there's an "official timeline" but the more you look at it the clearer it becomes that they only released it to appease fans. While there are very clearly some games in the series that are connected to others (Ocarina to Majora being the most obvious example) on the whole each one tells a different version of the same story (again, with some exceptions). And yeah the gameplay in BOTW is radially different from previous games, but the themes and setting are very similar to other games. IDK, I don't really see the reason for the label as a reboot since it does tie in to all the other games.

And I can also see some saying that it's not readily clear where it fits in with others, but I remember in the days before the official timeline was released that people were making some pretty damn far fetched connections between games at times.

I've never really cared much for the timeline itself, though, so maybe I'm just not in the right frame of mind to see how people could consider BOTW a full reboot when every other game in the series largely ignores the continuity of what came before and just tells its own story. Again, exceptions to that rule mainly in the 3D games, but most games in the series reference others more just as a cool Easter egg for fans than out of any desire to tell one massive legend.

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#47 lebanese_boy
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@turtlethetaffer said:

@lebanese_boy: Fair enough, but Miyamoto has stated before that almost every single game in the series was designed around the gameplay and world first. I know there's an "official timeline" but the more you look at it the clearer it becomes that they only released it to appease fans. While there are very clearly some games in the series that are connected to others (Ocarina to Majora being the most obvious example) on the whole each one tells a different version of the same story (again, with some exceptions). And yeah the gameplay in BOTW is radially different from previous games, but the themes and setting are very similar to other games. IDK, I don't really see the reason for the label as a reboot since it does tie in to all the other games.

And I can also see some saying that it's not readily clear where it fits in with others, but I remember in the days before the official timeline was released that people were making some pretty damn far fetched connections between games at times.

I've never really cared much for the timeline itself, though, so maybe I'm just not in the right frame of mind to see how people could consider BOTW a full reboot when every other game in the series largely ignores the continuity of what came before and just tells its own story. Again, exceptions to that rule mainly in the 3D games, but most games in the series reference others more just as a cool Easter egg for fans than out of any desire to tell one massive legend.

That first sentence is very true and is very obvious with BoTW. The extent that I care about the timeline is simply for amusement and digging into the series' lore but yeah they obviously never designed any of their games around it and it's just there to sort-of tie all the games together in a loose way. The only (slight) exception might be Skyward Sword to some extent as it's a prequel to the whole franchise.

Before the official timeline came out there were arguments between a singular timeline and a split (double) timeline. Everybody was shocked when it turned out to be a triple split timeline and I still think it's kinda weird. BoTW is believed to either be a nexus of all timelines or simple not a part of it at all. To be honest I don't much care for that now, I'm looking forward to see what they do with the series next and part of me is hoping for a direct sequel that builds on BoTW's foundations.

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#48 npiet1
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halo 6 is already in the works, they will probably announce it at e3. Plus theres a tv series on the way before everyone groans, its directed by Steven Spielberg. Halo just needs to do 6 and then some games like reach but in the ce style.

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#49 shellcase86
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@nomadic8280 said:

The reboot already happened, except they called it “Destiny”.

hahahaha, nice!

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#50 DocSanchez
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To say Nintendo rebooted zelda is such a bad reading of the situation that I refuse to address the rest of the post until you apologise. Zelda is rebooted every game, it's not a reboot. They just very rarely have continuity.