Metroid Prime
http://mynintendonews.com/2013/12/13/nintendo-renews-trademark-for-metroid-prime/
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Means nothing, they're probably just ensuring they don't lose exclusive rights over the name of what is by all accounts an active product for them.
Could be planning a re-release of the Trilogy to test the waters. Depends on how involved Sakamoto is at this point.
Also, Other M was a good game and I would pay for a sequel.
Could be planning a re-release of the Trilogy to test the waters. Depends on how involved Sakamoto is at this point.
Also, Other M was a good game and I would pay for a sequel.
I thought I was alone. :O
I'm sorry, that was Michael level trolling.
While I did enjoy Other M, it was still quite flawed. In fact, I wouldn't mind seeing Platinum Games take a shot at a sequel.
it's kind of funny (or sad) that Nintendo isn't going to make a Metroid Prime game on the WiiU even though that tablet screen could be used for visor stuff.
It's also sad that we didn't get a Pikmin game on the Wii despite wiimote controls being a natural fit, as shown with Pikmin 3, proving that time was wasted with WiiU tablet integration.
It's also sad that while the Wii excelled in rail shooters, the premiere Nintendo rail shooter, Star Fox, never got a game on the system.
Meanwhile, the wii got a lot of games on the wii that never benefited from the wii controls and were arguably made worse with them: Super Mario Galaxy, SMG2, NSMBWii, Xenoblade (should have had a wiiu version made... freakin idiots), Epic Yarn, SSBB, Monster Hunter, Super Paper Mario, Donkey Kong Country Returns, and others I'm sure.
And yes there were some worthwhile controller integrations as well. MP3, Skyward Sword, Warioware, etc but I'm just saying it was not enough of them.
Could be planning a re-release of the Trilogy to test the waters. Depends on how involved Sakamoto is at this point.
Also, Other M was a good game and I would pay for a sequel.
I thought I was alone. :O
I also enjoyed it very much.
Saying Other M is good is blasphemy of the highest order
Bullshit. It's a good game and a good Metroid game. It isn't excellent or up to par with the rest of the series (aside from Corruption and Return of Samus) but it's good, and takes advantage of a lot of the franchises tropes and does well with them. The gameplay is the 3D equivalent of Super Metroid, and the story, while chessy in some parts (mostly the beginning) is a good effort for Nintendo and explores some aspects of Samus no other Metroid game ever even touched.
A lot of the criticisms leveled against it for misogyny/sexism are unfounded, since Samus revered Adam as a father figure, which in Japan demands the highest order of respect and obedience, for anyone, regardless of gender.
I'd be excited if they announced Metroid Dread, which was in the style of Metroid Prime, but maybe with some different gimmicks.
Metroid Dread was rumoured to be a 2D side-scrolling sequel on the GBA to Metroid: Fusion. It was only ever mentioned in passing and never amounted to more than a rumour.
Like if they'll use it.. *rolls eyes* I wish they would just give it to someone else if they're not doing anything with it.
Nope. They'll never give Metroid up even of they never use the IP again. Why?
SUPER SMASH BROS.
While Metroid, Star Fox, and F-Zero may not be as popular as their own franchises, almost every time they get put in Smash, they get more well known there and you can bet that Smash fans will lose their s*** if Nintendo gave any of these up.
Like if they'll use it.. *rolls eyes* I wish they would just give it to someone else if they're not doing anything with it.
Nope. They'll never give Metroid up even of they never use the IP again. Why?
SUPER SMASH BROS.
While Metroid, Star Fox, and F-Zero may not be as popular as their own franchises, almost every time they get put in Smash, they get more well known there and you can bet that Smash fans will lose their s*** if Nintendo gave any of these up.
would they ? i mean at this point metroid fans have been begging for another metroid game for years ( that other M is...... "other" ) and nintendo doesn't give it a chance.So i don't think they would be mad if they gave it up, at least it would increase the chances of having another one made.
Like if they'll use it.. *rolls eyes* I wish they would just give it to someone else if they're not doing anything with it.
Nope. They'll never give Metroid up even of they never use the IP again. Why?
SUPER SMASH BROS.
While Metroid, Star Fox, and F-Zero may not be as popular as their own franchises, almost every time they get put in Smash, they get more well known there and you can bet that Smash fans will lose their s*** if Nintendo gave any of these up.
would they ? i mean at this point metroid fans have been begging for another metroid game for years ( that other M is...... "other" ) and nintendo doesn't give it a chance.So i don't think they would be mad if they gave it up, at least it would increase the chances of having another one made.
Well, prior to Prime, Metroid fans have waited eight years, I think they can wait a bit more.
And yes, fans would be upset at Nintendo for selling out Metroid like that. It would outrage Smash fans and regular Metroid fans alike.
I'd be excited if they announced Metroid Dread, which was in the style of Metroid Prime, but maybe with some different gimmicks.
Metroid Dread was rumoured to be a 2D side-scrolling sequel on the GBA to Metroid: Fusion. It was only ever mentioned in passing and never amounted to more than a rumour.
Yup. Doesn't mean it can't be reworked though. I'd just like the idea of Dread coming through in the end in some way.
Other M had excellent gameplay but the story was awful. If you think it was sexist you're wrong. It's just written so incompetently that it stumbles into material that is arguably very sexist. It doesn't help that Metroid is moving towards a very narrative-driven series, especially when the narrative is deteriorating at such an alarming rate.
And that's the issue with Metroid Prime as well. As the series became more prevalent they took more and more control away from Retro and let certain individuals at Nintendo guide the direction of the series.
Anything Metroid really ought to be considered dead at this point.
Other M had excellent gameplay but the story was awful. If you think it was sexist you're wrong. It's just written so incompetently that it stumbles into material that is arguably very sexist. It doesn't help that Metroid is moving towards a very narrative-driven series, especially when the narrative is deteriorating at such an alarming rate.
And that's the issue with Metroid Prime as well. As the series became more prevalent they took more and more control away from Retro and let certain individuals at Nintendo guide the direction of the series.
Anything Metroid really ought to be considered dead at this point.
Here, take this *flame shield*.
If you think it was sexist you're wrong. It's just written so incompetently that it stumbles into material that is arguably very sexist.
No, actually, it's people interpreted the themes of Samus and Adam's interaction as sexist. They assumed they were lovers, and missed the fact Samus revered Adam as a father figure (something that in Japanese culture carries the highest form of respect). Adam is the only person Samus would ever take orders from, and she takes his authority as absolute. Ever since Fusion this was an established trope of the Metroid series.
There are more complex themes at play than what people seem capable of inferring (it's all pretty obvious to anyone who has read the canonical e-comic), and it's a shame because there is potential to explore more in an Other M 2. Samus is psychologically damaged and can be extremely fragile at times (not because she is a woman, but because she lost her parents at such a young age and never got proper treatment), which is why she reacted like she did when Ridley, whom she assumed was dead, showed up.
What people also seem to often forget about that particular scene is that she comes to her senses and kicks Ridley's ass in possibly one of the best Ridley fights in the history of the series. Better than Prime and Corruption, and very close to Super.
If you think it was sexist you're wrong. It's just written so incompetently that it stumbles into material that is arguably very sexist.
No, actually, it's people interpreted the themes of Samus and Adam's interaction as sexist. They assumed they were lovers, and missed the fact Samus revered Adam as a father figure (something that in Japanese culture carries the highest form of respect). Adam is the only person Samus would ever take orders from, and she takes his authority as absolute. Ever since Fusion this was an established trope of the Metroid series.
There are more complex themes at play than what people seem capable of inferring (it's all pretty obvious to anyone who has read the canonical e-comic), and it's a shame because there is potential to explore more in an Other M 2. Samus is psychologically damaged and can be extremely fragile at times (not because she is a woman, but because she lost her parents at such a young age and never got proper treatment), which is why she reacted like she did when Ridley, whom she assumed was dead, showed up.
What people also seem to often forget about that particular scene is that she comes to her senses and kicks Ridley's ass in possibly one of the best Ridley fights in the history of the series. Better than Prime and Corruption, and very close to Super.
When I got to that point in the game I wondered why there was a big hubabub about it, considering it was my favorite fight in the entire game.
Speaking of lovers, I thought it was a bit obvious that Adam's Brother was Samus's Lover and not Adam.
All I want is Super Metroid II on 3DS. Which means it won't happen. Damn shame Metroid SR-388 is no longer in the works.
If you bought your 3DS before the Price Drop you got Super Metroid II on your 3DS. In case if you're confused, Super Metroid II was Metroid Fusion and that was part of the Ambassador Program.
Saying Other M is good is blasphemy of the highest order
I kinda liked Other M. There, I said it.
Most metroid games are really good, with Prime series being on my top 3 favorite games of all time. Other M was disappointing though, so a return to the prime universe would be nice. They need to stay away from how MP3 worked though, because having NPC characters that talk to you and stuff really takes away from the secluded feeling the game is supposed to have.
No, actually, it's people interpreted the themes of Samus and Adam's interaction as sexist. They assumed they were lovers, and missed the fact Samus revered Adam as a father figure (something that in Japanese culture carries the highest form of respect). Adam is the only person Samus would ever take orders from, and she takes his authority as absolute. Ever since Fusion this was an established trope of the Metroid series.
There are more complex themes at play than what people seem capable of inferring (it's all pretty obvious to anyone who has read the canonical e-comic), and it's a shame because there is potential to explore more in an Other M 2. Samus is psychologically damaged and can be extremely fragile at times (not because she is a woman, but because she lost her parents at such a young age and never got proper treatment), which is why she reacted like she did when Ridley, whom she assumed was dead, showed up.
What people also seem to often forget about that particular scene is that she comes to her senses and kicks Ridley's ass in possibly one of the best Ridley fights in the history of the series. Better than Prime and Corruption, and very close to Super.
Art is a communication between the artist and the audience. It is the responsibility of the artist to understand his or her audience. This is why the writers of Other M were incompetent. They obviously did a horrible job at communicating their intended message based on the audience response that they got.
I also have a hard time believing that there is as much sophistication in the narrative as you say simply based on how horribly unnatural the dialogue feels and how badly it is voice acted (which apparently was the result of Nintendo's influence. They wanted Samus to sound that wooden apparently).
If we lived in a society where all things were equal, Other M would be all right, but we don't. If you look at this industry in context of our society, Other M brings up all the wrong questions.
Why is it that the only protagonist who experiences paralyzing emotions be a woman? Why must she constantly be in a dream-like emotional state throughout the whole game? Again, why must a woman be the first/only protagonist to be like this? Why must it be the most prominent, established female protagonist in video games? Why is she the one who has to get permission to use her weapons? (and, btw, that whole weapon-limiting thing was a brilliant idea, but again it was written so horribly that it became sexist. I have had to defend it to so many people. Nintendo just didn't write it well enough. Part of my explanation for it has to come from me because the rationale just isn't in the game).
It is the responsibility of the artist to understand his or her audience.
Uh, no? The artist creates, and the audience interprets. There is no "responsibility" that the artist has to their audience. They create what "comes" to them, and we as the audience absorb it, like it/hate it and move on with our lives. You sound entitled, and make it seem as if you think they needed to make the game YOU wanted, and not the game THEY wanted.
@MirkoS77: Have faith, dude- did they not JUST release a 3DS sequel to an SNES game and see it win GotY over console juggernauts and surefire shoe-ins?
@LegatoSkyheart: There's a difference between Metroid 4 and a hypothetical Super Metroid 2.
@MirkoS77: Have faith, dude- did they not JUST release a 3DS sequel to an SNES game and see it win GotY over console juggernauts and surefire shoe-ins?
Yes, in a franchise that isn't inactive.
@MirkoS77: Have faith, dude- did they not JUST release a 3DS sequel to an SNES game and see it win GotY over console juggernauts and surefire shoe-ins?
Yes, in a franchise that isn't inactive.
Yea, I'm afraid I'd have to agree, but I'm still holding out some hope.
Could be planning a re-release of the Trilogy to test the waters. Depends on how involved Sakamoto is at this point.
Also, Other M was a good game and I would pay for a sequel.
I thought I was alone. :O
Thirded. Just don't let Sakomoto write the goddamn story.
Thirded. Just don't let Sakomoto write the goddamn story.
I give him a break for three reasons:
1) He is Japanese, thus has different cultural heritage.
2) He is not a famed spoken narrative-weaver (nobody at Nintendo is).
3) He is a Metroid fanboy and loves the series so much and thinks it's his baby.
I don't agree that the story is terribad, but it isn't as good as it could be.
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