Nintendo, Sony Need to 'Reinvent' Portable Gaming or Lose to Mobile.

no question these smartphones are interupting the future of gaming handhelds. Thats why I think its odd the 3G version of the NGP should of been a full fledge smartphone aswell. basically combine the NGP and the Xperia Play.

There still a market for traditional gaming handheld though.

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/nintendo-sony-need-to-reinvent-portable-gaming-or-lose-to-mobile-says-alan-wake-dev/

Nah they're fine I think.

Eventually it will happen, but it's still years away. The lack of buttons and dedicated game development community (largely due to the lack of capable and consistent hardware across the industry line) are what limit the smartphone medium from overtaking handheld gaming devices.

The biggest problem with handhelds is that they're getting too expensive for their own good. The DS didn't really explode in popularity until it fell to $129.

Mobile gaming may be noticeably inferior to dedicated gaming handhelds, but many people would rather just use the smartphones they already own than invest $250+ in a dedicated portable device (which, incidentally, they'd have to uncomfortably carry together with their phones and ipods).

To make matters worse, that $250+ could have been invested in a "superior" home console.

To me, most jumps between generations offer little more than a graphical upgrade. That's not always true though, as the N64 and PS1 really made 3D environments realistic and the PS3 and Xbox 360 made online a possibility (I KNOW THE PC DID EVERYTHING FIRST!) Since people who game on phones don't care about graphics, the only thing that is going to keep people playing is to offer something phones can't yet. That thing is online atm. Handhelds seem like a generation behind consoles and phones a generation behind them. If I were to make a guess, phones will overtake handhelds when they have nothing to offer except better graphics. Its a big reason as to why I think Nintendo isn't going to have such a successful portable generation, especially since it really doesn't innovate off its predecessor like the DS did. Its also why I think the NGP will beat Nintendo. If I can play Call of Duty on the bus with my friend who is home sick, people will look up. Its something that can't be offered on phones yet that is really pretty cool.

No.

There will always be a HARDCORE gaming market on Handhelds. And both 3DS and NPG are dedicated to these markets.

I have an iPhone myself, and even the APPS that i have are NOT EVEN ENOUGH to satisfy my gaming urges on a typical NYC subway ride to work.

I can't wait to get the NGP, but I have to admit, I am way more excited to get my hands on the HTC Evo 3D.

The biggest problem with handhelds is that they're getting too expensive for their own good. The DS didn't really explode in popularity until it fell to $129.

Mobile gaming may be noticeably inferior to dedicated gaming handhelds, but many people would rather just use the smartphones they already own than invest $250+ in a dedicated portable device (which, incidentally, they'd have to uncomfortably carry together with their phones and ipods).

To make matters worse, that $250+ could have been invested in a "superior" home console.

SakusEnvoy

No.

There will always be a HARDCORE gaming market on Handhelds. And both 3DS and NPG are dedicated to these markets.

I have an iPhone myself, and even the APPS that i have are NOT EVEN ENOUGH to satisfy my gaming urges on a typical NYC subway ride to work.

M8ingSeezun

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No.

There will always be a HARDCORE gaming market on Handhelds. And both 3DS and NPG are dedicated to these markets.

I have an iPhone myself, and even the APPS that i have are NOT EVEN ENOUGH to satisfy my gaming urges on a typical NYC subway ride to work.

Coolyfett

The market is surely fading. With an iPod touch being cheaper and offering cheaper games than both the NGP (assuming so) and the 3DS it's a no brainer.

Well if all the mainstream franchises gets iterations on the smartphones/tablets casuals will start questioning traditional ones for sure. "Why should I buy a 3DS/NGP when I already have an Iphone, that can play a cheaper version of a "Resident Evil" game?" .....Although for a core gamer, those are watered down, shallow versions that will not replace the traditional handhelds.

Then again, 3rd party franchises aside, ppl are drawn to 1st party franchises too you know. They don't even need to reinvent the hardware, a Pokémon MMO would suffice in order to save themselves as a last big desperate push, if it goes that far.

As for the 1$ app thingy, no that won't make a dent in traditional handheld gaming sales, at least for now (3DS/NGP gen), maybe next gen.

No they don't need to make their Handhelds into Phones.

isnt call of duty portable sorta re-inventing portable gaming? cod on the go sounds like fun, i think nintendo is just mad that the 3ds flopped and project cafe stink too.russiaAK47

It's too late for Nintendo... The 3DS is horrible. :|Messiahbolical-

Sony makes great cameras , tv's , blu-ray players and gaming consoles. Phones? Not so much.

Eventually it will happen, but it's still years away. The lack of buttons and dedicated game development community (largely due to the lack of capable and consistent hardware across the industry line) are what limit the smartphone medium from overtaking handheld gaming devices.

Basinboy

iOS for iPhones and iPad so far are pretty consistant and they have a pretty big gaming community.

Nintendo takes them seriously and a few developers make a lot of money from these platforms- Gameloft, Chilingo,

Android O.S. is starting to make some headroom with Honeycomb and their next iteration Ice Cream should work across both phones and tablets-

Regarding Nintendo.. For a company that stated they will only release a new console when they have some great new idea to back it up with. Glasses 3D gaming is kind of weak tbh.

Eventually it will happen, but it's still years away. The lack of buttons and dedicated game development community (largely due to the lack of capable and consistent hardware across the industry line) are what limit the smartphone medium from overtaking handheld gaming devices.

Basinboy

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Eventually it will happen, but it's still years away. The lack of buttons and dedicated game development community (largely due to the lack of capable and consistent hardware across the industry line) are what limit the smartphone medium from overtaking handheld gaming devices.

iOS for iPhones and iPad so far are pretty consistant and they have a pretty big gaming community.

Nintendo takes them seriously and a few developers make a lot of money from these platforms- Gameloft, Chilingo,

Android O.S. is starting to make some headroom with Honeycomb and their next iteration Ice Cream should work across both phones and tablets-

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[QUOTE="Basinboy"]

Eventually it will happen, but it's still years away. The lack of buttons and dedicated game development community (largely due to the lack of capable and consistent hardware across the industry line) are what limit the smartphone medium from overtaking handheld gaming devices.

PSP107

iOS for iPhones and iPad so far are pretty consistant and they have a pretty big gaming community.

Nintendo takes them seriously and a few developers make a lot of money from these platforms- Gameloft, Chilingo,

Android O.S. is starting to make some headroom with Honeycomb and their next iteration Ice Cream should work across both phones and tablets-

It's the naming scheme to differentiete andorid versions. Rather then just 2.2 (froyo). There is also gingerbread (2.3), and other treat named verisons prior to those that I can't be arsed into remembering. I believe cupcake is one.

isnt call of duty portable sorta re-inventing portable gaming? cod on the go sounds like fun, i think nintendo is just mad that the 3ds flopped and project cafe stink too.russiaAK47

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[QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"]

No.

There will always be a HARDCORE gaming market on Handhelds. And both 3DS and NPG are dedicated to these markets.

I have an iPhone myself, and even the APPS that i have are NOT EVEN ENOUGH to satisfy my gaming urges on a typical NYC subway ride to work.

PSP107

As long as smart phones don't have physical buttons it can never cater to core games.

I have been playing my PSP for what, 7 years? and i'm guessing i will do the same when the NGP comes out. So ask me again in 2017-2018.

When my son gets older, i do not think i will want to give him a cell phone (yet). I think i would be much happier seeing him have a DSiXL.

I have been playing my PSP for what, 7 years? and i'm guessing i will do the same when the NGP comes out. So ask me again in 2017-2018.

PA_DUTCH

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I have been playing my PSP for what, 7 years? and i'm guessing i will do the same when the NGP comes out. So ask me again in 2017-2018.

campzor

no question these smartphones are interupting the future of gaming handhelds. Thats why I think its odd the 3G version of the NGP should of been a full fledge smartphone aswell. basically combine the NGP and the Xperia Play.

There still a market for traditional gaming handheld though.

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/nintendo-sony-need-to-reinvent-portable-gaming-or-lose-to-mobile-says-alan-wake-dev/

PSP107

I agree they definitely need to do something or else the mobile sector is most certainly going to run away with their customers.

[QUOTE="PSP107"][QUOTE="Coolyfett"]Coolyfett agrees with this. No denying the entertainment value of a quality hand held.

Well the NGP will feature 3G so i think this is a move by sony so that the NGP is carry by cell phone companies,like some laptops are and other devices like Ipads and Android tablets.tormentos

When my son gets older, i do not think i will want to give him a cell phone (yet). I think i would be much happier seeing him have a DSiXL.

PA_DUTCH

mobile gaming is another niche that opened. I doesn't affect people who like great visuals, story and gameplay.

mobile gaming is another niche that opened. I doesn't affect people who like great visuals, story and gameplay.

emirblade

Need I go on? Or are you people that know nothing about smartphone gaming finally going to stop commenting on things you know nothing about, but like to act as if you do?

i think nintendo is just mad that the 3ds floppedrussiaAK47

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The biggest problem with handhelds is that they're getting too expensive for their own good. The DS didn't really explode in popularity until it fell to $129.

Mobile gaming may be noticeably inferior to dedicated gaming handhelds, but many people would rather just use the smartphones they already own than invest $250+ in a dedicated portable device (which, incidentally, they'd have to uncomfortably carry together with their phones and ipods).

To make matters worse, that $250+ could have been invested in a "superior" home console.

AmazonTreeBoa

Once game developers can learn to properly craft mobile games encompassing all the different genres out there, handheld gaming may not be needed anymore. At least that's how I see it. Either way, mobile/handheld gaming doesn't interest me much at all, so I don't really care.Mawy_Golomb

Handhelds have a huge variety of games.

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mobile gaming is another niche that opened. I doesn't affect people who like great visuals, story and gameplay.

AmazonTreeBoa

Need I go on? Or are you people that know nothing about smartphone gaming finally going to stop commenting on things you know nothing about, but like to act as if you do?

Infinity Blade is a PunchOut clone

GTA Chinatown Wars is basicall the PSP version with worse controls + fingers blocking the screen

Asphalt is a ripoff of Burnout, which the PSP has (and is also way better)

One of those "games" is a tech demo :roll:

When my son gets older, i do not think i will want to give him a cell phone (yet). I think i would be much happier seeing him have a DSiXL.

no question these smartphones are interupting the future of gaming handhelds. Thats why I think its odd the 3G version of the NGP should of been a full fledge smartphone aswell. basically combine the NGP and the Xperia Play.

There still a market for traditional gaming handheld though.

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/nintendo-sony-need-to-reinvent-portable-gaming-or-lose-to-mobile-says-alan-wake-dev/

PSP107

Nintendo thinks that Sony will need to reinvent portable gaming? How exactly is their 3DS reinvention or are they acknowledging defeat? ._.