Nintendo: The Nintendo Wii U tablet-style controller will not be sold separately

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#51 SRTtoZ
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Its funny that people thought they were gonna own like 4 of these...yea @ $200 a pop I'm sure.

You guys are CRAZY if you think this thing is gonna cost only $100 bucks.

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#52 GunSmith1_basic
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we'll either they are mistaken, or nintendo will eventually change their policy. At any rate, this is the first screw up of the system. Hopefully it will be the last. We don't know the specs or price yet. Maybe we should be bracing ourselves
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#53 XenoNinja
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why would you want more wii u controllers? one gets rid of split-screen 2 player fps games, and that's all that matters to me.
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#54 forgot_it
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why would you want more wii u controllers? one gets rid of split-screen 2 player fps games, and that's all that matters to me.XenoNinja
I have more than one friend.
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#55 James161324
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Its funny that people thought they were gonna own like 4 of these...yea @ $200 a pop I'm sure.

You guys are CRAZY if you think this thing is gonna cost only $100 bucks.

SRTtoZ

No one is going to buy them at 200 dollars

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#56 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Heil68"]I can see why it's Wiiu..YOU will be the only one playing it. :lol:ShuichiChamp24

You do know that's why the "U" is in the name right?

Really? Gee thanks for that insight! My speculation and comment was about only a single (pssstttt IE YOU)user would be playing the system by yourself, because you know ,only one tablet controller.
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#57 ShuichiChamp24
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As far as the one tablet to a console thingy, I am concerned about what the standard controllers will be.

ActicEdge

From what I read there is also going to be a more advance wiimote+. It's kinda weird though thinking about it, first time I'm not 100% sure what the standard control will look like.

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#58 SRTtoZ
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[QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]

Its funny that people thought they were gonna own like 4 of these...yea @ $200 a pop I'm sure.

You guys are CRAZY if you think this thing is gonna cost only $100 bucks.

James161324

No one is going to buy them at 200 dollars

Thats the point, thats why they arent selling them seperatly...you're only supposed to get one per system. If you have a friend he can bring his over, if not they will have other controlls or just stick with the wii motes.

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Its funny that people thought they were gonna own like 4 of these...yea @ $200 a pop I'm sure.

You guys are CRAZY if you think this thing is gonna cost only $100 bucks.

SRTtoZ

One person accused me of "damage control" when I said these would cost over $200. "Processing done in the console", "radios are cheap", blah blah. Nah bro, that's a 6 inch LCD screen + motion control + camera, it will cost more than a smartphone.

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#60 Heil68
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[QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]

Its funny that people thought they were gonna own like 4 of these...yea @ $200 a pop I'm sure.

You guys are CRAZY if you think this thing is gonna cost only $100 bucks.

James161324

No one is going to buy them at 200 dollars

What if console is 300-400 dollars to replace a broken controller? I would choose the 200 over that.
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#61 DillonShwing
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[QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]

Its funny that people thought they were gonna own like 4 of these...yea @ $200 a pop I'm sure.

You guys are CRAZY if you think this thing is gonna cost only $100 bucks.

James161324

No one is going to buy them at 200 dollars

Exactly. Hence why they arent going to be sold seperately.

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#62 James161324
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[QUOTE="James161324"]

[QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]

Its funny that people thought they were gonna own like 4 of these...yea @ $200 a pop I'm sure.

You guys are CRAZY if you think this thing is gonna cost only $100 bucks.

Heil68

No one is going to buy them at 200 dollars

What if console is 300-400 dollars to replace a broken controller? I would choose the 200 over that.

It would be nitendo shooting them self in the foot. The wiiu is going to be atleast 400 dollars, now if you add a 200 controller. I'm looking at 500 dollars for the console. Now lets face it almost everyone has 2 controllers. So now its a 700 dollar console.

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#63 Mercenary848
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Why would they sell it seperatly

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[QUOTE="XenoNinja"]why would you want more wii u controllers? one gets rid of split-screen 2 player fps games, and that's all that matters to me.forgot_it
I have more than one friend.

play online.
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#65 ShuichiChamp24
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[QUOTE="ShuichiChamp24"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"]I can see why it's Wiiu..YOU will be the only one playing it. :lol:Heil68

You do know that's why the "U" is in the name right?

Really? Gee thanks for that insight! My speculation and comment was about only a single (pssstttt IE YOU)user would be playing the system by yourself, because you know ,only one tablet controller.

Yes, I forgot I saw muliple people using and playing the system. Even if they don't all use the main controller i'm still playing with people. The system is based on you as a player as oppose to the Wii.

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#66 GTSaiyanjin2
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when I saw the tablet I thought it would cost a lot to buy a 2nd... But this is even worse. So you expect me to use the wii mote for other people who want to play the system. I was not planing on buying it, but this just sounds like a big fail for nintendo.

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#67 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="James161324"]

No one is going to buy them at 200 dollars

James161324

What if console is 300-400 dollars to replace a broken controller? I would choose the 200 over that.

It would be nitendo shooting them self in the foot. The wiiu is going to be atleast 400 dollars, now if you add a 200 controller. I'm looking at 500 dollars for the console. Now lets face it almost everyone has 2 controllers. So now its a 700 dollar console.

You can get a decent PC for that..soooo PC gaming IS cheaper than console gaming..CONFIRMED.
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#68 789shadow
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What he means is that all WiiU's will come with at least one controller. Stop freaking out.

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#69 nintendogamer6
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So it seems that all the hardcore games will be played on the tablet, but there will still be constant mini game collections coming in every month that will only use the wii-mote. Meaning ill have to pay 250+ dollars for a console that only gets a worth while game maybe once every two months giving that 3rd party devs actually put time in to making the games for the new controller....yep sounds like nintendo *sigh*

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#70 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

As far as the one tablet to a console thingy, I am concerned about what the standard controllers will be.

ShuichiChamp24

From what I read there is also going to be a more advance wiimote+. It's kinda weird though thinking about it, first time I'm not 100% sure what the standard control will look like.

That's the thing. They should have showed us it. Right now I think that I can live with 1 tablet but I do think that if they aren't going to have a set in stone standard controller then the console needs to needs to let you have atleast 2 tablets at once.

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#71 JB730
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makes sense

the controller will directly use the wii u's GPU remotely for it's display. this will have 2 display outputs - one for the TV screen and the other for the controller. this is why the controller can display almost exactly what is on the TV screen at the same time. adding more controlers will require more display outputs. adding more display outputs will require more from the GPU, and there is no way nintendo can design for this flexibility beforehand (unless they force everybody spend a but load more just to potentially use more controllers).

JB730

actually, i gotta say now that i believe nintendo will be releasing TWO controllers with its console.

why?

a.) the bottleneck that determines how many controllers one can use at the same time is the system's GPU

b.) we know the wii u GPU is made by AMD and based on a Radeon HD GPU.

c.) we know the wii u GPU has multi-display functionality.

d.) AMD/ATI Eyefinity Technology (ie. multidisplay) was introduced with the Radeon 5000 series, and allowed at a minimum 3 display outputs simultaneously.

3 display outputs = two controllers + the tv.

another possibilty is that they could customly downgrade the GPU to support only 2 display outputs, but i don't know the incentive to go out of their way to downgrade the functionality like that. it would probably be easier to go with what works already here.

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#72 Heil68
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Why would they sell it seperatly

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You break your controller,,,then what? Oh, I dunno replace it or buy the whole dame thing again? Which option sounds better to you? Maybe you want another controller in another room, I could see that being pretty sick..guess not.
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#73 primitive013
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i guess that is where the "U" comes in for the Wii U. cause only U get to use it.
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#74 enterawesome
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How are local multiplayer games going to even exist?
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#75 GunSmith1_basic
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I first I was just processing the info, but now I'm outright bewildered. This doesn't make any sense to me. How can you have a system who's defining feature is the controller, but not be able to have more than one? Can your friend bring his over and use it? Devs are supposed to be able to design games around this new controller, but now they have to augment the experience for local multiplayer? So whoever gets the tablet could have a huge advantage over everyone else? Everyone is saying it already too, but what if you break the damn thing? Maybe you can order other controllers. I'm going to wait this out until this is super-official but if you can't get other tablets I don't think I will buy the console
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#76 CheveLoco
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the games/demos they showed had one people using the ipad looking thing to get a different view from the rest of the players while they are being chased...if 4 people use the same controller then the game is ruined. Plus i think that's more a positive than a negative, because you save on controllers and more importantly that means you can at least use the classic controller to play regular games like Darksiders 2. I do not see myself playing Battlefield 3 with the screen controller.

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#77 Heil68
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What he means is that all WiiU's will come with at least one controller. Stop freaking out.

789shadow
No shadow..The Wiiu is officially dead, before it's even released. Nintendo am cry :(
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#78 Heil68
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How are local multiplayer games going to even exist? enterawesome
You get shinny tablet, other players look at you enviously and plot your demise?
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#79 JuarN18
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that's weird.... ¿?¿?

hopefully it has an amazing online service

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#80 SRTtoZ
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[QUOTE="James161324"]

[QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]

Its funny that people thought they were gonna own like 4 of these...yea @ $200 a pop I'm sure.

You guys are CRAZY if you think this thing is gonna cost only $100 bucks.

Heil68

No one is going to buy them at 200 dollars

What if console is 300-400 dollars to replace a broken controller? I would choose the 200 over that.

Thats why I think Nintendo will have some sort of Warranty on the remote for the life of the console. Thats the only thing that makes sense.

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How are local multiplayer games going to even exist? enterawesome
The only multiplayer games that will exits will be the ones that use the wii mote. You know those crappy games that make all the money but us ard core gamers get tired of in one night (wii sports, wii play, resort, dance, ect...)

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#82 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="James161324"]

No one is going to buy them at 200 dollars

SRTtoZ

What if console is 300-400 dollars to replace a broken controller? I would choose the 200 over that.

Thats why I think Nintendo will have some sort of Warranty on the remote for the life of the console. Thats the only thing that makes sense.

If you break it no way in hell will they replace it..If its faulty in anyway, yes, but you get it wet, drop it, smash it, crack screen..lolno
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#83 GunSmith1_basic
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="James161324"]

No one is going to buy them at 200 dollars

SRTtoZ

What if console is 300-400 dollars to replace a broken controller? I would choose the 200 over that.

Thats why I think Nintendo will have some sort of Warranty on the remote for the life of the console. Thats the only thing that makes sense.

none of nintendo's logic makes sense here. I understand that the controllers are extremely expensive, but this new reality makes the WiiU a bizarre console
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#84 ShuichiChamp24
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[QUOTE="ShuichiChamp24"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

As far as the one tablet to a console thingy, I am concerned about what the standard controllers will be.

ActicEdge

From what I read there is also going to be a more advance wiimote+. It's kinda weird though thinking about it, first time I'm not 100% sure what the standard control will look like.

That's the thing. They should have showed us it. Right now I think that I can live with 1 tablet but I do think that if they aren't going to have a set in stone standard controller then the console needs to needs to let you have atleast 2 tablets at once.

If i'm not mistaking they have two round table conference this year. Maybe, if they do, they will talk more about it there. You're right though, they should have shown it. Ninty, only conference which raises more questions then before the event..

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#85 Alpha-Male22
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Website reporting it is a sleazy one. Never trust these scum sites, they always spread false information

More likely that he was confirming that the controller is not a console and that you need the controller to use WITH the console.

"You wont be able to buy the controller alone" may mean you can't expect to buy just the controller and play the games.

I'm sure that it will be sold separately, it's too moronic not to and CVG is too unreliable of a site to trust.


Come on, there are too many common sense issues with selling your product without a standalone controller

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#86 James161324
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So if i'm getting this right.

The wiiU

Has better specs of a 360

supports some next gen wii mote

supports some tablet controller

Supposedly does online

I'm calling it now the wiiu will be 499.99

it will sell ok, have crap 3rd party support, and be laughed at in 2 years when the ps4 and xbox720 comes out

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#87 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="ShuichiChamp24"]

From what I read there is also going to be a more advance wiimote+. It's kinda weird though thinking about it, first time I'm not 100% sure what the standard control will look like.

ShuichiChamp24

That's the thing. They should have showed us it. Right now I think that I can live with 1 tablet but I do think that if they aren't going to have a set in stone standard controller then the console needs to needs to let you have atleast 2 tablets at once.

If i'm not mistaking they have two round table conference this year. Maybe, if they do, they will talk more about it there. You're right though, they should have shown it. Ninty, only conference which raises more questions then before the event..

Its just poor planning. Because before now I was under the assumption the tablet was the standard controller. If its not then there is a serious problem with the methodology of not telling us about what everyone else would be playing with.

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#88 ActicEdge
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Website reporting it is a sleazy one. Never trust these scum sites, they always spread false information

More likely that he was confirming that the controller is not a console and that you need the controller to use WITH the console.

"You wont be able to buy the controller alone" may mean you can't expect to buy just the controller and play the games.

I'm sure that it will be sold separately, it's too moronic not to and CVG is too unreliable of a site to trust.


Come on, there are too many common sense issues with selling your product without a standalone controller

Alpha-Male22

If this was sony of MS sure. I wouldn't put something like this past N's sensibilities though.

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So if i'm getting this right.

The wiiU

Has better specs of a 360

supports some next gen wii mote

supports some tablet controller

Supposedly does online

I'm calling it now the wiiu will be 499.99

it will sell ok, have crap 3rd party support, and be laughed at in 2 years when the ps4 and xbox720 comes out

James161324

This whole thing reeks of epic fail.

You wonder if Wii was a one-off and Ninty will revert back to old days of being 3rd place.

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So now Local Multiplayer is important and a deal braker?

Jeez...the damage control is getting out of hand.

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#91 SRTtoZ
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What he means is that all WiiU's will come with at least one controller. Stop freaking out.

789shadow


Wrong.

"Both the controller and the console will be sold as one unit. You won't be able to buy the controller alone."

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#92 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

What he means is that all WiiU's will come with at least one controller. Stop freaking out.

SRTtoZ


Wrong.

"Both the controller and the console will be sold as one unit. You won't be able to buy the controller alone."

I don't believe that for one second, if that is what he said. This site used for info is NOT reliable.

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#93 CheveLoco
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[QUOTE="enterawesome"]How are local multiplayer games going to even exist? nintendogamer6

The only multiplayer games that will exits will be the ones that use the wii mote. You know those crappy games that make all the money but us ard core gamers get tired of in one night (wii sports, wii play, resort, dance, ect...)

or the ones that use the classic controller

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#94 KristoffBrujah
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[QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

What he means is that all WiiU's will come with at least one controller. Stop freaking out.

789shadow


Wrong.

"Both the controller and the console will be sold as one unit. You won't be able to buy the controller alone."

I don't believe that for one second, if that is what he said. This site used for info is NOT reliable.

I can see why though. It would be embarrassing to price controllers at $300. This way Ninty sells it as a feature by calling the controller the "focal point" and not design failure.

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#95 Timstuff
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I fear that Nintendo has gone from employing cheap gimmicks to compensate for a lack of quality hardware, they are now resorting to expensive gimmicks. The 3DS costs as much as the PSV because of its expensive 3D screen, and now the Wii U controller costs as much as the system itself because of all the tech Nintendo is cramming into it. The reason the DS and Wii were explosive hits was because they were dirt cheap and had a neat gimmick. The 3DS, and now it appears, the Wii U, are a lot more expensive than the casual players want to pay, and the gimmicks aren't exciting enough for them to justify the higher price-- especially since they are already satasfied with the hardware they already own.
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#96 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]


Wrong.

"Both the controller and the console will be sold as one unit. You won't be able to buy the controller alone."

KristoffBrujah

I don't believe that for one second, if that is what he said. This site used for info is NOT reliable.

I can see why though. It would be embarrassing to price controllers at $300. This way Ninty sells it as a feature by calling the controller the "focal point" and not design failure.

But the controller has no internal hardware. It's not going to be nearly as expensive as people are saying. Also, on what planet would NINTENDO release a 300 DOLLAR CONTROLLER. It makes no sense.

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#97 ThePlothole
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What if my controller breaks? Yeah, I'm calling BS, you will be able to buy separately.SaltyMeatballs
Nintendo does sell replacement parts through their web site.
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[QUOTE="enterawesome"]How are local multiplayer games going to even exist? CheveLoco

The only multiplayer games that will exits will be the ones that use the wii mote. You know those crappy games that make all the money but us hard core gamers get tired of in one night (wii sports, wii play, resort, dance, ect...)

or the ones that use the classic controller

True...All this makes me feel like there will be a very sparse amount of great games that use the tablet :(

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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]That's the thing. They should have showed us it. Right now I think that I can live with 1 tablet but I do think that if they aren't going to have a set in stone standard controller then the console needs to needs to let you have atleast 2 tablets at once.

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If i'm not mistaking they have two round table conference this year. Maybe, if they do, they will talk more about it there. You're right though, they should have shown it. Ninty, only conference which raises more questions then before the event..

Its just poor planning. Because before now I was under the assumption the tablet was the standard controller. If its not then there is a serious problem with the methodology of not telling us about what everyone else would be playing with.

My guess is that if anything, the console will launch with two controllers. The tablet like one and the advance Wiimote+ one, could be bad planning, or maybe it's just words by the site where taken out of context.

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I fear that Nintendo has gone from employing cheap gimmicks to compensate for a lack of quality hardware, they are now resorting to expensive gimmicks. The 3DS costs as much as the PSV because of its expensive 3D screen, and now the Wii U controller costs as much as the system itself because of all the tech Nintendo is cramming into it. The reason the DS and Wii were explosive hits was because they were dirt cheap and had a neat gimmick. The 3DS, and now it appears, the Wii U, are a lot more expensive than the casual players want to pay, and the gimmicks aren't exciting enough for them to justify the higher price-- especially since they are already satasfied with the hardware they already own.Timstuff

Yeah, i know man, i'm with you 100% that price tag on WiiU is just crazy i mean...wait, what's the price tag again? oh yea...