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#1 OwnallConsoles
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At one time you could easily say Nintnedo was the best and few would question it. Now Nintnedo is good but no where near the best at game making.

Outside of Mario, What has Nintendo done on the Wii? Zelda TP was a Gamecube Title and not even a great Zelda. Tp was a good Zelda but it heavily borrowed from OoT and no where near as good as that game.

What about People like me who Hate 3D- Platformers? Yes I disliked Mario Galaxy. The Wii has lil to offer and 3rd Party support on the platform is a joke.

Why has NIntendo had such a lack of focus on Quality games. Ok you have Mario galaxy 2 but what else has released on the Wii the last few years that was impressive? Not a Single 3rd party game has had AAA quality and NSMB was an expasion of the DS title.

Outside of Mario what happened to Nintendo? Oh and lets not waste time discussing future games becasue they could flop like Animal crossing Wii.

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#2 LordQuorthon
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They must be doing something right, because you keep making threads about them on a weekly basis.

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#3 vashkey
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You grew up. They make games that family type people want to play and almost always have.
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#4 OwnallConsoles
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They must be doing something right, because you keep making threads about them on a weekly basis.

LordQuorthon
If you mean Dis Satisfying my appetite for good games on Wii outside of Mario then you stand correct. Going by your posting history and your sig I'm preaching to the Choir with someone like you.
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#5 LegatoSkyheart
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Well I don't know where you've been when Monster Hunter Tri, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, No More Heroes 2, and Red Steel 2 came out.

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#6 darth-pyschosis
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They made the 2007 GOTY, Zelda TP won a lot of GOTY in 2006, Brawl won some in 2008, NSMB was very good and sold many copies and SMG2 is likely 2010's GOTY, also they've released dozens of quality games on the Wii and DS since their launch

I see no reason to be alarmed.

Perhaps you don't like the genres they're making games in ?

You don't like SRPGs, RPGs, Platformers, FPAs, SideScrollers, Adventure games, Action games, etc?

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#7 oldkingallant
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Super Mario Galaxy 2. 10.0. One of the only perfect scores in Gamespot history. 98 on Metacritic. 2nd or 3rd highest rated game of all time on Game Rankings. Came out yesterday. That is all.

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#8 OwnallConsoles
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Well I don't know where you've been when Monster Hunter Tri, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, No More Heroes 2, and Red Steel 2 came out.

LegatoSkyheart
Do Not like any of those games and do not feel they are worth 49.99. Thats my opinion then again I am use to much higher quality of games. I have played 3 game on your list and returned them within a week. Just not games I feel are good.
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#9 AntiType
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They just released a game that sits beside the greatest games of all time... Obviously they are still the best developers in the world.

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#10 mariokart64fan
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nintendo is still the best , and you want to know what nintendo did for wii

  1. zelda twilight princess
  2. metroid prime 3 corruption
  3. donkey kogn barrel blast
  4. mario party 8
  5. wii sports
  6. wii play
  7. wii sports resort
  8. wii fit
  9. wii fit plus
  10. wii music
  11. links crossbow training
  12. excite truck
  13. excite bots trick racing
  14. marikart wii
  15. new super mario bros
  16. super mario galaxy
  17. super paper mario
  18. super mario galaxy 2
  19. metroid trillogy
  20. wario ware inc
  21. wario land shake it
  22. dr mario online rx
  23. punchout
  24. super smash bros brawl
  25. animal crossing city folk
  26. pokemon battle revolution
  27. pokemon ranch
  28. zelda mm
  29. zelda oot
  30. super mario kart
  31. mario kart 64
  32. super mario bros 1-3 and lost levels
  33. super mario world
  34. pikmin
  35. mario power tennis
  36. donkey kong jungle beat
  37. excite bike
  38. excite bike world rally
  39. super metroid
  40. paper mario
  41. pilot wings
  42. fzero x
  43. fzero
  44. wave race 64
  45. starfox 64
  46. super mario rpg seven stars
  47. kirby
  48. kirby dream course
  49. kirby 3
  50. kirby super star
  51. dk c series
  52. dk jr math
  53. dk 3
  54. dk
  55. dkjr
  56. sin and punishment 2

up coming

zelda wii 2

metroid other m

wii party

plus what ever is annouced at e3 and beyond

if you can come up with 56 plus 4 more games that are of a variety not just fps and racing then you got me other wise your done

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OP needs a flame shield...They come in great numbers ever since the 10.

*Looks at the post above me*


Ah, it has started.

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At one time you could easily say Nintnedo was the best and few would question it. Now Nintnedo is good but no where near the best at game making.

Outside of Mario, What has Nintendo done on the Wii? Zelda TP was a Gamecube Title and not even a great Zelda. Tp was a good Zelda but it heavily borrowed from OoT and no where near as good as that game.

What about People like me who Hate 3D- Platformers? Yes I disliked Mario Galaxy. The Wii has lil to offer and 3rd Party support on the platform is a joke.

Why has NIntendo had such a lack of focus on Quality games. Ok you have Mario galaxy 2 but what else has released on the Wii the last few years that was impressive? Not a Single 3rd party game has had AAA quality and NSMB was an expasion of the DS title.

Outside of Mario what happened to Nintendo? Oh and lets not waste time discussing future games becasue they could flop like Animal crossing Wii.

OwnallConsoles
Didn't really read the list.... but it's even worse reading it since you complain about lack of 3rd party support. Nintendo as a developer has NOTHING to do with 3rd parties. You can't say Nintendo is bad because of no 3rd party support. If I made a console and dev company, and somehow made the 10 best games of all time and released them exclusively to my platform, but had nothing else, the console would be bad because of having few games, but as a dev company I would still have the best company ever because all it produced were great games. Your name is misleading, it seems to say you are fair and balanced. Then again, Fox News says they are fair and balanced, and look how that turns out....
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#13 HarlockJC
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Not a Single 3rd party game has had AAA quality OwnallConsoles

You may want to check your facts.

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#14 oldkingallant
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Well I don't know where you've been when Monster Hunter Tri, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, No More Heroes 2, and Red Steel 2 came out.

OwnallConsoles
Do Not like any of those games and do not feel they are worth 49.99. Thats my opinion then again I am use to much higher quality of games. I have played 3 game on your list and returned them within a week. Just not games I feel are good.

Well regardless of what you think they are considered good games, all with high AA average scores. Therefore the Wii is not for you. Actually you don't know if it's for you because despite your name, you do not have one and you have not played the games you claim to have bought. Users like this make me wanna leave System Wars, it's not even fun.....
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#15 nintendo-4life
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Nintendo is still the best, but there are a few things to consider: A) Sony and MS both have a much larger number of publishers than Nintendo. B) Third party developers have more or less abandoned Nintendo (at least 70% have) and went to other consoles to not compete with them (that's actually flattering when you think about :?) C) Nintendo has two platforms to cater to now, as apposed to one in the early generations.
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[QUOTE="OwnallConsoles"]

At one time you could easily say Nintnedo was the best and few would question it. Now Nintnedo is good but no where near the best at game making.

Outside of Mario, What has Nintendo done on the Wii? Zelda TP was a Gamecube Title and not even a great Zelda. Tp was a good Zelda but it heavily borrowed from OoT and no where near as good as that game.

What about People like me who Hate 3D- Platformers? Yes I disliked Mario Galaxy. The Wii has lil to offer and 3rd Party support on the platform is a joke.

Why has NIntendo had such a lack of focus on Quality games. Ok you have Mario galaxy 2 but what else has released on the Wii the last few years that was impressive? Not a Single 3rd party game has had AAA quality and NSMB was an expasion of the DS title.

Outside of Mario what happened to Nintendo? Oh and lets not waste time discussing future games becasue they could flop like Animal crossing Wii.

oldkingallant
Didn't really read the list.... but it's even worse reading it since you complain about lack of 3rd party support. Nintendo as a developer has NOTHING to do with 3rd parties. You can't say Nintendo is bad because of no 3rd party support. If I made a console and dev company, and somehow made the 10 best games of all time and released them exclusively to my platform, but had nothing else, the console would be bad because of having few games, but as a dev company I would still have the best company ever because all it produced were great games. Your name is misleading, it seems to say you are fair and balanced. Then again, Fox News says they are fair and balanced, and look how that turns out....

What I am getting at is Nintendo and the Wi platform have had Very Long gaps of Quality games on the Wii.
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#17 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Well I don't know where you've been when Monster Hunter Tri, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, No More Heroes 2, and Red Steel 2 came out.

OwnallConsoles

Do Not like any of those games and do not feel they are worth 49.99. Thats my opinion then again I am use to much higher quality of games. I have played 3 game on your list and returned them within a week. Just not games I feel are good.

Wow, you be doggin' on the Wii then.

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#18 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="OwnallConsoles"] What I am getting at is Nintendo and the Wi platform have had Very Long gaps of Quality games on the Wii.

There been 12 AA+ games and 3 A games in the last 6 months. Not sure where you getting the long gap from.
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#19 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="OwnallConsoles"] What I am getting at is Nintendo and the Wi platform have had Very Long gaps of Quality games on the Wii.HarlockJC
There been 12 AA+ games and 3 A games in the last 6 months. Not sure where you getting the long gap from.

He just wants AAA games for the Wii.

AA to him probably means "not worth his time".

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Half their focus is on titles like Wii sports, Wii music, and the rest of the Wii line of games. If they spent that time on quality games they'd have more AAA's in the bank.
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#21 NinjaDuckling
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Did you miss the SMG2 review?
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Half their focus is on titles like Wii sports, Wii music, and the rest of the Wii line of games. If they spent that time on quality games they'd have more AAA's in the bank.Parasomniac
The Wii series (apart from Wii music and Wii play) are quality games.
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Half their focus is on titles like Wii sports, Wii music, and the rest of the Wii line of games. If they spent that time on quality games they'd have more AAA's in the bank.Parasomniac
Then they would not be making some of the games I enjoy playing. I rather they just made more games and not drop titles both me or my son enjoy.
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#24 LegatoSkyheart
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Half their focus is on titles like Wii sports, Wii music, and the rest of the Wii line of games. If they spent that time on quality games they'd have more AAA's in the bank.Parasomniac

What Quality Games are you looking for? If they didn't make Wii Sports or Resort then

1. Wii's would have sold horribly since Wii Sports was it's Killer App

and

2. People would have complained on the Motion Controls even more if Resort didn't come out.

and

3. Wii Fit is actually helping people and gave Nintendo the Heart Association's Seal of Approval.

and

4. What "Quality Games" are you looking for? "New IPs?" Honestly I think if Nintendo made a "New IP" it would be overlooked.

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#25 Homesrfan
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These threads are pointless when there are clearly lots of quality games on the Wii, and you just say they don't interest you. I seriously doubt you've played many if any Wii games.

Seriously, just counting exclusives: Metroid Prime 3, SMG, SMG2, Sin and Punishment 2, Super Paper Mario, WarioWare: Smooth Moves, Wario Land: Shake It, Super Smash Brothers Brawl, Battallion Wars 2, Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn, NSMBWii, Mario Strikers Charged, Excite Truck, Excite Bots, Endless Ocean, Endless Ocean 2, Animal Crossing, Punch-Out!!, Wii Sports Resort, Mario Kart Wii.

And that's just Nintendo published. Also, there is WiiWare where Nintendo brough Dr. Mario and the fantastic Art Style series. If you can't find one of those games that interest you... what games do you play? Only shooters (there is, in fact a shooter in the list)? If that's all you play, then that's fine, play those games. But don't complain about how Nintendo hasn't brough quality games to the Wii just because of your refusal to play them or at least play other types of games.

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#26 hellhund
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And the lack of good 3rd party games isn't something that Nintendo has control over. Hence why it's a 3rd party production. If companies want to make Just Dance and Babysitting Mama because they think it'll make them money, that's their choice.

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#27 RyanShazam
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I love how Super Mario Galaxy 2 gets a 10/10 and this guy has the juevos to say Nintendo sucks.

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#28 JB730
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count the number of AAAA/AAA/AA games and GOTYs nintendo has developed during this generation (for both Wii and DS)

then count the number of AAAA/AAA/AA games and GOTYs that any other developer has created this generation

compare the two

and you will come to the conclusion that yes, nintendo is still the best game developer in the world. in the history of gaming. hands down.

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[QUOTE="Parasomniac"]Half their focus is on titles like Wii sports, Wii music, and the rest of the Wii line of games. If they spent that time on quality games they'd have more AAA's in the bank.HarlockJC
Then they would not be making some of the games I enjoy playing. I rather they just made more games and not drop titles both me or my son enjoy.

It is obvious you like Nintendo games. I do not like their recent efforts. Oh and the Wii is judge from a lower standard then the xbox 360/ps3. If you released games like Red Steel 2 and No more Heros on the 360/ps3 they would be getting 5-6 range scores. Look I don't want to dislike the Wii. Mine is a major dust collector but I hope Metroid Other M changes that. If Wii is your only option then I could see spending time with it. When you own the other 2 consoles the 3rd party games on wii are pathetic. Even Nintendo has had bombs like Wii Fit, Wii Music, Animal Crossing etc. I don't play sales so that is not even int he equation in my book.
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#30 kontejner44
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If you are not appealed by GOTY 2007 and 2010, then Nintendo is simply not for you.

Don't complain on their dev skills, couse it has more to do with you than them

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It is obvious you like Nintendo games. I do not like their recent efforts. Oh and the Wii is judge from a lower standard then the xbox 360/ps3. If you released games like Red Steel 2 and No more Heros on the 360/ps3 they would be getting 5-6 range scores. Look I don't want to dislike the Wii. Mine is a major dust collector but I hope Metroid Other M changes that. If Wii is your only option then I could see spending time with it. When you own the other 2 consoles the 3rd party games on wii are pathetic. Even Nintendo has had bombs like Wii Fit, Wii Music, Animal Crossing etc. I don't play sales so that is not even int he equation in my book.OwnallConsoles
The lower standard part does not work when SMG has already beat many games this gen for GOTY on many sites. Just like Zelda:TP also got GOTY from many sites like Gametrailers. If you read Gamespot review policy you would also know that statement would be incorrect.

What you may call bombs does not mean others can't enjoy the game. Wii music reviews were all over the place and Wii Fit was an A game on here. I never brought up sales only rankings. Why because rankings take out my opinion and yours. A statement like a system has not had quality games when it keeps coming out with AA+ games. You may not like them that is fine, I own a PS3 and have not played it in months. The last game I got was SF4 or Ghost Busters I forget which one is newer. Nothing else expect Modracers has came out that I wanted to play. I am not going to say it does not have quality games because based on reviews there have been a number of great games. Just none I really have wanted to play.

FYI: The comment about owning 2 consoles. Understand this view point comes from someone who owns every console and more than likely one of the more powerful PC on this site.

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#32 locopatho
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Nintendo are still the best :) Ideally there'd be less lame Wii Music, rehash Animal Crossing and crappy Disaster, and more Galaxy/Zelda awesome... But hey no one's perfect! Between Galaxy 1/2, Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime 3, Fire Emblem, Warioware, Warioland, Batallion Wars, Super Paper Mario, New Super Mario Bros, Mario Kart, Smash Bros(if you into that kinda thing....), Mario Strikers, and of course Wii Sports 1/2, Nintendo have made some good, some great, and some mindblowing games this gen :D
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#33 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

OP needs a flame shield...They come in great numbers ever since the 10.

*Looks at the post above me*


Ah, it has started.

[QUOTE="Loco_Live"]

OP needs a flame shield...They come in great numbers ever since the 10.

*Looks at the post above me*


Ah, it has started.

I've been here for a year plus and havent moved as SW's is fun. .... sometimes.
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#34 LordQuorthon
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count the number of AAAA/AAA/AA games and GOTYs nintendo has developed during this generation (for both Wii and DS)

then count the number of AAAA/AAA/AA games and GOTYs that any other developer has created this generation

compare the two

and you will come to the conclusion that yes, nintendo is still the best game developer in the world. in the history of gaming. hands down.

JB730

Yeah, but he's NOT INTERESTED!!!! so, your argument is full of fail. Plus, he's the center of the universe: If he's NOT INTERESTED!!!! that means the games automatically suck.

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[QUOTE="oldkingallant"][QUOTE="OwnallConsoles"]

At one time you could easily say Nintnedo was the best and few would question it. Now Nintnedo is good but no where near the best at game making.

Outside of Mario, What has Nintendo done on the Wii? Zelda TP was a Gamecube Title and not even a great Zelda. Tp was a good Zelda but it heavily borrowed from OoT and no where near as good as that game.

What about People like me who Hate 3D- Platformers? Yes I disliked Mario Galaxy. The Wii has lil to offer and 3rd Party support on the platform is a joke.

Why has NIntendo had such a lack of focus on Quality games. Ok you have Mario galaxy 2 but what else has released on the Wii the last few years that was impressive? Not a Single 3rd party game has had AAA quality and NSMB was an expasion of the DS title.

Outside of Mario what happened to Nintendo? Oh and lets not waste time discussing future games becasue they could flop like Animal crossing Wii.

OwnallConsoles
Didn't really read the list.... but it's even worse reading it since you complain about lack of 3rd party support. Nintendo as a developer has NOTHING to do with 3rd parties. You can't say Nintendo is bad because of no 3rd party support. If I made a console and dev company, and somehow made the 10 best games of all time and released them exclusively to my platform, but had nothing else, the console would be bad because of having few games, but as a dev company I would still have the best company ever because all it produced were great games. Your name is misleading, it seems to say you are fair and balanced. Then again, Fox News says they are fair and balanced, and look how that turns out....

What I am getting at is Nintendo and the Wi platform have had Very Long gaps of Quality games on the Wii.

Ok sure... but that's because of weak 3rd party support, which is not indicative of Nintendo's talent as a developer. Nintendo produces tons and tons of AAA titles, and the number of AAA and high AA they've made this year is actually astounding, something no other dev has come close to matching this gen. That's why it has the best exclusives of any of the consoles (demolishes the others in AAE, about the same in AAAE numbers), but is weak on the multiplats, it has amazing support from the first party (Nintendo obviously), but weak from the third. Nintendo is still the best dev in the world and turns out amazing games whenever they come out. Fill in the gaps with 3rd party stuff and you wouldn't even notice Nintendo's supposed "lack of good games."
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[QUOTE="OwnallConsoles"] It is obvious you like Nintendo games. I do not like their recent efforts. Oh and the Wii is judge from a lower standard then the xbox 360/ps3. If you released games like Red Steel 2 and No more Heros on the 360/ps3 they would be getting 5-6 range scores. Look I don't want to dislike the Wii. Mine is a major dust collector but I hope Metroid Other M changes that. If Wii is your only option then I could see spending time with it. When you own the other 2 consoles the 3rd party games on wii are pathetic. Even Nintendo has had bombs like Wii Fit, Wii Music, Animal Crossing etc. I don't play sales so that is not even int he equation in my book.HarlockJC

The lower standard part does not work when SMG has already beat many games this gen for GOTY on many sites. Just like Zelda:TP also got GOTY from many sites like Gametrailers. If you read Gamespot review policy you would also know that statement would be incorrect.

What you may call bombs does not mean others can't enjoy the game. Wii music reviews were all over the place and Wii Fit was an A game on here. I never brought up sales only rankings. Why because rankings take out my opinion and yours. A statement like a system has not had quality games when it keeps coming out with AA+ games. You may not like them that is fine, I own a PS3 and have not played it in months. The last game I got was SF4 or Ghost Busters I forget which one is newer. Nothing else expect Modracers has came out that I wanted to play. I am not going to say it does not have quality games because based on reviews there have been a number of great games. Just none I really have wanted to play.

FYI: The comment about owning 2 consoles. Understand this view point comes from someone who owns every console and more than likely one of the more powerful PC on this site.

Thanks for saving me the time. The whole "lower standards" deal is BS. If Red Steel 2 released on the PS3, it would've been rated lower, but only because the main focus of the game is controls, which any other system would lose (for the time being). With PS Move Red Steel 2 would get a 7.5 or 8 minimum. The idea of lower standards simply flops when a game get s a 9.5 like games on other platforms, but still manages to win GOTY. If anything, Mario games are graded more harshly since critics will criticize extreme sameness and lack of any innovation. SMG2 got a perfect score because of all the tiny little innovations and how new and fun it felt. Super Mario is an age old franchise known for high quality, it has to go out of its way to do everything perfectly as well as innovate, even if only a bit, to get a great score.
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#37 Thunderdrone
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hmmm....nah, i'l post on your next thread that will be exactly like this one.
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#38 surrealnumber5
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they are still by far the best developer in the gaming world
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You have nothing to blame but your tastes. There are so many good wii games but all you do is complain.
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#40 illmatic87
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They fork out moar quality titles around the clock than anybody else, ninty is spoiling us.
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This isn't personal wars, or opinion wars. If you don't like platformers then that's your problem.

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At one time you could easily say Nintnedo was the best and few would question it. Now Nintnedo is good but no where near the best at game making.

Outside of Mario, What has Nintendo done on the Wii? Zelda TP was a Gamecube Title and not even a great Zelda. Tp was a good Zelda but it heavily borrowed from OoT and no where near as good as that game.

What about People like me who Hate 3D- Platformers? Yes I disliked Mario Galaxy. The Wii has lil to offer and 3rd Party support on the platform is a joke.

Why has NIntendo had such a lack of focus on Quality games. Ok you have Mario galaxy 2 but what else has released on the Wii the last few years that was impressive? Not a Single 3rd party game has had AAA quality and NSMB was an expasion of the DS title.

Outside of Mario what happened to Nintendo? Oh and lets not waste time discussing future games becasue they could flop like Animal crossing Wii.

OwnallConsoles

well, Nintendo like Square lost it, it is that simple

Now Fable 3 is the new Zelda and Lost Odyssey the new FF, Rare games that are the most fun are on 360 too

Simply put, all magic in games has moved to 360 system

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[QUOTE="OwnallConsoles"]

At one time you could easily say Nintnedo was the best and few would question it. Now Nintnedo is good but no where near the best at game making.

Outside of Mario, What has Nintendo done on the Wii? Zelda TP was a Gamecube Title and not even a great Zelda. Tp was a good Zelda but it heavily borrowed from OoT and no where near as good as that game.

What about People like me who Hate 3D- Platformers? Yes I disliked Mario Galaxy. The Wii has lil to offer and 3rd Party support on the platform is a joke.

Why has NIntendo had such a lack of focus on Quality games. Ok you have Mario galaxy 2 but what else has released on the Wii the last few years that was impressive? Not a Single 3rd party game has had AAA quality and NSMB was an expasion of the DS title.

Outside of Mario what happened to Nintendo? Oh and lets not waste time discussing future games becasue they could flop like Animal crossing Wii.

theseekar

well, Nintendo like Square lost it, it is that simple

Now Fable 3 is the new Zelda and Lost Odyssey the new FF, Rare games that are the most fun are on 360 too

Simply put, all magic in games has moved to 360 system

Nintendo devs are no good anymore?!?! Fable is the new Zelda? Lost Odyssey is the new Final Fantasy?!?! What is in the Kool-Aid these days? TC I can see not liking something for one reason or another but to me it seems like you want to not like it. But hey that's fine too. Doesn't keep me from playing the good Wii games.
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#44 Sonicplys
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[QUOTE="OwnallConsoles"]

At one time you could easily say Nintnedo was the best and few would question it. Now Nintnedo is good but no where near the best at game making.

Outside of Mario, What has Nintendo done on the Wii? Zelda TP was a Gamecube Title and not even a great Zelda. Tp was a good Zelda but it heavily borrowed from OoT and no where near as good as that game.

What about People like me who Hate 3D- Platformers? Yes I disliked Mario Galaxy. The Wii has lil to offer and 3rd Party support on the platform is a joke.

Why has NIntendo had such a lack of focus on Quality games. Ok you have Mario galaxy 2 but what else has released on the Wii the last few years that was impressive? Not a Single 3rd party game has had AAA quality and NSMB was an expasion of the DS title.

Outside of Mario what happened to Nintendo? Oh and lets not waste time discussing future games becasue they could flop like Animal crossing Wii.

theseekar

well, Nintendo like Square lost it, it is that simple

Now Fable 3 is the new Zelda and Lost Odyssey the new FF, Rare games that are the most fun are on 360 too

Simply put, all magic in games has moved to 360 system

LOL! Fable cant hold the candle to Zelda. Rare was dead the moment they signed the deal with MS. Nintendo never lost the magic with Monster Hunter, Boom Blox, Muramasa, Mario Galaxy 2, Wii sports resort, Warioland: SI, BTW I love all these Wii hate topics. Jealous cows and lems, keep em coming. I need a good laugh so keep up the ignorant, nonsense banter.

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well, Nintendo like Square lost it, it is that simple

Now Fable 3 is the new Zelda and Lost Odyssey the new FF, Rare games that are the most fun are on 360 too

Simply put, all magic in games has moved to 360 system

theseekar

This is gold.

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[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="OwnallConsoles"]

At one time you could easily say Nintnedo was the best and few would question it. Now Nintnedo is good but no where near the best at game making.

Outside of Mario, What has Nintendo done on the Wii? Zelda TP was a Gamecube Title and not even a great Zelda. Tp was a good Zelda but it heavily borrowed from OoT and no where near as good as that game.

What about People like me who Hate 3D- Platformers? Yes I disliked Mario Galaxy. The Wii has lil to offer and 3rd Party support on the platform is a joke.

Why has NIntendo had such a lack of focus on Quality games. Ok you have Mario galaxy 2 but what else has released on the Wii the last few years that was impressive? Not a Single 3rd party game has had AAA quality and NSMB was an expasion of the DS title.

Outside of Mario what happened to Nintendo? Oh and lets not waste time discussing future games becasue they could flop like Animal crossing Wii.

Sonicplys

well, Nintendo like Square lost it, it is that simple

Now Fable 3 is the new Zelda and Lost Odyssey the new FF, Rare games that are the most fun are on 360 too

Simply put, all magic in games has moved to 360 system

LOL! Fable cant hold the candle to Zelda. Rare was dead the moment they signed the deal with MS. Nintendo never lost the magic with Monster Hunter, Boom Blox, Muramasa, Mario Galaxy 2, Wii sports resort, Warioland: SI, BTW I love all these Wii hate topics. Jealous cows and lems, keep em coming. I need a good laugh so keep up the ignorant, nonsense banter.

Nintendo don't make Monster Hunter or Muramasa or Boom Blox........... And Rare still rock :D
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[QUOTE="theseekar"]

[QUOTE="OwnallConsoles"]

At one time you could easily say Nintnedo was the best and few would question it. Now Nintnedo is good but no where near the best at game making.

Outside of Mario, What has Nintendo done on the Wii? Zelda TP was a Gamecube Title and not even a great Zelda. Tp was a good Zelda but it heavily borrowed from OoT and no where near as good as that game.

What about People like me who Hate 3D- Platformers? Yes I disliked Mario Galaxy. The Wii has lil to offer and 3rd Party support on the platform is a joke.

Why has NIntendo had such a lack of focus on Quality games. Ok you have Mario galaxy 2 but what else has released on the Wii the last few years that was impressive? Not a Single 3rd party game has had AAA quality and NSMB was an expasion of the DS title.

Outside of Mario what happened to Nintendo? Oh and lets not waste time discussing future games becasue they could flop like Animal crossing Wii.

Sonicplys

well, Nintendo like Square lost it, it is that simple

Now Fable 3 is the new Zelda and Lost Odyssey the new FF, Rare games that are the most fun are on 360 too

Simply put, all magic in games has moved to 360 system

LOL! Fable cant hold the candle to Zelda. Rare was dead the moment they signed the deal with MS. Nintendo never lost the magic with Monster Hunter, Boom Blox, Muramasa, Mario Galaxy 2, Wii sports resort, Warioland: SI, BTW I love all these Wii hate topics. Jealous cows and lems, keep em coming. I need a good laugh so keep up the ignorant, nonsense banter.

Well, i prefer controlling the world as a king, than doing some temples again and again, after Zelda OOT got a bot old, Fable 3 is what i expected zelda series to come down to

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#48 Sword-Demon
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*looks at nintendo's 1st party games on the wii and ds*

:? what are you talking about? 3 zelda games with a fourth coming this year, 2 metroid games with a third coming this year, 2 Mario RPGs, 4 Mario platformers (one winning GOTY 2007, another getting a 10), SSBB, Pokemon, 2 Fire Emblem games with another in development.

that's just off the top of my head.. what am I missing?

Nintendo is easily still one of the best devs on earth

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#49 Zerocrossings
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If someone came up to me today and said Nintendo is the best, i'll think its a pretty good choice.

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#50 tomarlyn
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Ninty could do with a new exclusive FPS franchise running on the Prime 3 engine.