All electronics are made with the blood and tears of orphans and the downtrodden, is that supposed to be news?
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All electronics are made with the blood and tears of orphans and the downtrodden, is that supposed to be news?
I find it amusing how many people don't want to blame the companies. Yes, the company you love so much is comprised of terrible human beings after all. People like Reggi and Kaz are fully aware of the processes used to make their products and they seem to have no problem turning a blind eye. They choose to continue to do business with Foxconn. Yes you support this business and wil continue to do so. It's something isn't it, how we reason to ourselves how we're not really that bad. It's the other guys that do that not us
Why do you think they use children?
In electronic devices, the components are small. Children's hands are small too. Using children for the assembly of electronics, it just makes logical sense, right?
Ask any child to do something important, like trigonometry, drive a car to the airport, rent an adult film, or reach the height limit to ride the roller coaster. No, children can't do these things because they are stupid. It is because children cannot do these things that they are destined for the electronics assembly line. All Foxconn are doing is getting the best possible personnel in to get the job done - the best personnel happens to be children.
Think back through your childhood. Your parents are older than you, who fixed the computer in your household? Well, in mine, it was me, and this started when I was about 7 years old. Children 'get' electronics, adults don't.
I think the majority of posters in this thread are jealous that they didn't grow up in a rich and powerful country like China, where you can gain valuable work experience at a very young age, in such exciting industries as the manufacture of hardware for video gaming.
And so ends my satirical rant.
Seriously - I would actually blame the Chinese government. Why is this still happening? I'd bet that their officials are corrupt. I could make the same statement I made in that thread the other day where that reviewer admitted selling out to inflate review scores.
Why doesn't anyone have any integrity these days?
Ninty i am disappointed. Thought they were better than that. Guess they are scum like the restCapitan_KidNintendo has been the worst offender with their use of conflict materials for many years now. Family friendly support indeed...
Your precious Sony and MS aren't any better as they use Foxconn too. :|So Nintendo are evil.
g0ddyX
The people who know this and buy their products in support, does that make them evil too?
*mind blown*
There are many tech companies [like Apple] that use Foxconn. This is nothing new, and damn near unavoidable. Yes, it's deplorable, but it shouldn't be a big surprise to learn that tech can be assembled in some shady as hell places.
[QUOTE="g0ddyX"]Your precious Sony and MS aren't any better as they use Foxconn too. :|So Nintendo are evil.
The people who know this and buy their products in support, does that make them evil too?
*mind blown*nintendoboy16
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-08-17-nintendo-finishes-rock-bottom-of-conflict-minerals-company-rankings
Nintendo ranks lowest,ninty scored a mighty big 0.
Also Greenpeace have a lot of ire for ninty.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/nintendo-still-most-eco-unfriendly-electronics-company-greenpeace_4
scored 0 aswell here.
Its fair to say as a company who generally tend to give off a friendly and good image are actually the industries worst in certain area's despite improving.Foxconn only furthers that notion to a well informed person that nintendo arent the all caring all loving organisation they like to make out they are on TV.
Your precious Sony and MS aren't any better as they use Foxconn too. :|[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="g0ddyX"]
So Nintendo are evil.
The people who know this and buy their products in support, does that make them evil too?
*mind blown*razgriz_101
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-08-17-nintendo-finishes-rock-bottom-of-conflict-minerals-company-rankings
Nintendo ranks lowest,ninty scored a mighty big 0.
Also Greenpeace have a lot of ire for ninty.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/nintendo-still-most-eco-unfriendly-electronics-company-greenpeace_4
scored 0 aswell here.
Its fair to say as a company who generally tend to give off a friendly and good image are actually the industries worst in certain area's despite improving.Foxconn only furthers that notion to a well informed person that nintendo arent the all caring all loving organisation they like to make out they are on TV.
If I recall correctly, (on the conflict mineral's issue) they only scored zero because Nintendo didn't respond to some of them.Also, I don't care how low Nintendo scored, if other companies are believed to be guilty of this, then spread out the criticism, don't just pick one target because they are lower. It's like a teacher blaming one kid in class for the full failure because he scored an F- on a test, when some of the other students scored F to F+, but get a pass because they are not the worst scores.
In this case, Sony got a fail score too in the Conflict Minerals fiasco. Why not criticize them as well?
[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]
[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] Your precious Sony and MS aren't any better as they use Foxconn too. :|nintendoboy16
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-08-17-nintendo-finishes-rock-bottom-of-conflict-minerals-company-rankings
Nintendo ranks lowest,ninty scored a mighty big 0.
Also Greenpeace have a lot of ire for ninty.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/nintendo-still-most-eco-unfriendly-electronics-company-greenpeace_4
scored 0 aswell here.
Its fair to say as a company who generally tend to give off a friendly and good image are actually the industries worst in certain area's despite improving.Foxconn only furthers that notion to a well informed person that nintendo arent the all caring all loving organisation they like to make out they are on TV.
If I recall correctly, (on the conflict mineral's issue) they only scored zero because Nintendo didn't respond to some of them.Also, I don't care how low Nintendo scored, if other companies are believed to be guilty of this, then spread out the criticism, don't just pick one target because they are lower. It's like a teacher blaming one kid in class for the full failure because he scored an F- on a test, when some of the other students scored F to F+, but get a pass because they are not the worst scores.
In this case, Sony got a fail score too in the Conflict Minerals fiasco. Why not criticize them as well?
they do share criticism, but nintendo scored the lowest END OF.
They arent this amazing company people on this board like yourself make them out to be, they are as bad as MS or Sony in the sense they are another money hungry company like any other good company that only serves to be 1 thing.PROFITABLE.
Gibson for example got tons of flak a few years ago for sourcing Mahogany from Madagascar which is actually illegal, Ninty should face the same ire for its poor eco practices and scoring lowest on this research if anything they should provide the information and honestly i feel that its something that should be a legal requirement nowadays to know where every component is sourced from to prevent this happening.
Just because it reduces costs doesnt mean they all should be using these places to source materials, it only fuels what could be considered one of the bloodiest wars right now.
Besides man this topics bout nintendo might aswell raise their stellar track record for bad practices where they seem to be coming out lowest.Dont try and use that analogy either, those students still scored better and its only the students themselves fault much like the companies for failing to think and be proactive, just ninty's came out the worst and this topics bout nintendo so im gonna direct this arguement towards nintendo to prove they are just as bad as MS or Sony but nobody ever dares rag on nintendo despite their glaring issues.
Microsoft fared little better in the guide, with a score of 2.4 points, which put it just one place above Nintendo at the bottom.
Of the three console makers, it was Sony that revealed itself as the most green, gaining one place to 7th in the chart with a score of 5.1.
Points were awarded for Sony's 17 per cent reduction in greenhouse gases from 2000-2008, with renewable energy now accounting for eight per cent of that purchased globally by the company, and it was also praised for its use of recycled plastics in its products.
Nokia, Sony Ericsson and Toshiba led the chart, while Apple was applauded for its rapid response to completely eliminating chemicals from its computer systems.
This is from the Eurogamer link from two posts up, I am only going to speak for myself and I am not judging anybody but I have reached an age were I would like to take at least some responsibilty. Microsoft is probably no better than Nintendo and when it comes down to system wars I am going to pick the one that tries to be part of the change that is needed in order to create a new perspective on how to manufacture products, reduction of greenhous gases, recycled plastic in products, ethical working conditions. I am not saying that Sony is a saint or any company for that matter but how else are things going to change if we don't reward the companies that try to do something about it?
You better start researching everything you buy if you're worried about the morality behind it and I dont just mean gaming related stuff. Electronics, shoes, clothing, food, etc.. a lot of shady things happen before the products reach consumers.
MS and Sony (as well as Nintendo) have also dealt with conflict materials.
I'm not saying any of this stuff is right, but its just the world we live in. Avoid the console if you want, but you better check the facts on other consoles you own and while you're at it don't go buying a pair of Nikes or eat any chicken you didnt raise yourself lol.
If I recall correctly, (on the conflict mineral's issue) they only scored zero because Nintendo didn't respond to some of them.[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]
[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-08-17-nintendo-finishes-rock-bottom-of-conflict-minerals-company-rankings
Nintendo ranks lowest,ninty scored a mighty big 0.
Also Greenpeace have a lot of ire for ninty.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/nintendo-still-most-eco-unfriendly-electronics-company-greenpeace_4
scored 0 aswell here.
Its fair to say as a company who generally tend to give off a friendly and good image are actually the industries worst in certain area's despite improving.Foxconn only furthers that notion to a well informed person that nintendo arent the all caring all loving organisation they like to make out they are on TV.
razgriz_101
Also, I don't care how low Nintendo scored, if other companies are believed to be guilty of this, then spread out the criticism, don't just pick one target because they are lower. It's like a teacher blaming one kid in class for the full failure because he scored an F- on a test, when some of the other students scored F to F+, but get a pass because they are not the worst scores.
In this case, Sony got a fail score too in the Conflict Minerals fiasco. Why not criticize them as well?
they do share criticism, but nintendo scored the lowest END OF.
They arent this amazing company people on this board like yourself make them out to be, they are as bad as MS or Sony in the sense they are another money hungry company like any other good company that only serves to be 1 thing.PROFITABLE.
Gibson for example got tons of flak a few years ago for sourcing Mahogany from Madagascar which is actually illegal, Ninty should face the same ire for its poor eco practices and scoring lowest on this research if anything they should provide the information and honestly i feel that its something that should be a legal requirement nowadays to know where every component is sourced from to prevent this happening.
Just because it reduces costs doesnt mean they all should be using these places to source materials, it only fuels what could be considered one of the bloodiest wars right now.
Besides man this topics bout nintendo might aswell raise their stellar track record for bad practices where they seem to be coming out lowest.Dont try and use that analogy either, those students still scored better and its only the students themselves fault much like the companies for failing to think and be proactive, just ninty's came out the worst and this topics bout nintendo so im gonna direct this arguement towards nintendo to prove they are just as bad as MS or Sony but nobody ever dares rag on nintendo despite their glaring issues.
Where I'm not the Nintendo whiteknight you think I am. I may have defended them in a lot of things, but I'm not defending them for stuff like this (should they be true), but NEITHER am I sticking to one target regardless of their ranks. All companies found guilty of something like this deserve fair criticism, something g0ddyX was (obviously) not doing (have you seen his previous posts? To him, Nintendo = the only devil in the gaming business and acts like he speaks for the gaming community when it comes to what he says about them).Besides, I was just telling him, the MS and Sony he loves so much are just as guilty in working with Foxconn, and yet, he only targets Nintendo.
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