Nintendo Wii U to be sold at a loss

which means the tech isnt as old as we thought.

that means instant priceut down the road

This poster is in the know when it comes to the tech side of gaming:

"Controller based on educated guesswork probably costs around 35-45 dollars to manufacture.

People underestimate the cost of building a machine that has a lot of stuff inside it that they aren't aware of let alone all the stuff that they do know but that they think is suddenly a 99 cent part because its origin started in 2009 but didn't finish design until 2011."

No ifs and buts. Please. There are no hidden costs. No magic, no secrets, no bullsht. There is nothing negative to say about Wii U hw.

You can say it's underpowered, but then the price would have skyrocketed.

This is the penalty for praising Sony/MS last gen. Nextbox and PS4 will be severely underwhelming relative to the expectations of the average SW users OR Sony/MS will loose lots of money/marketshare by making their systems beasts.

The end.

SuperFlakeman

There are reasons why MS and Sony are looking at 100 percent AMD APU instead of AMD GPU + IBM CPU custom APU.

100 percent AMD APU can be subsidised by the X86 PC side i.e. AMD's ~50 million** annual units sales to spread the cost and reduce the CPU cost (i.e. remove IBM).

**AMD's PC X86 market share is around 15 to 18 percent of +300 million annual x86 PC unit sales.

Amiga PowerPC is also facing similar cost issues with unit numbers vs cost.

which means the tech isnt as old as we thought.

Mario1331

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which means the tech isnt as old as we thought.

ronvalencia

english

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

which means the tech isnt as old as we thought.

Mario1331

english

[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]This is the penalty for praising Sony/MS last gen. Nextbox and PS4 will be severely underwhelming relative to the expectations of the average SW users OR Sony/MS will loose lots of money/marketshare by making their systems beasts.

The end.

Giancar

[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]This is the penalty for praising Sony/MS last gen. Nextbox and PS4 will be severely underwhelming relative to the expectations of the average SW users OR Sony/MS will loose lots of money/marketshare by making their systems beasts.

The end.

Zen_Light

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"] Radeon E6760 is based on Radeon HD 6650M.ronvalencia

english

thank you:) thats more like it

nintendo makes profit off games , that simple , the only reason wii was profitable day one was cheap hardware , wii u is more powerful then 2006 hardware , i wish people would understand that it can run games at full 1080 p at 60 fps current gen console can not do plus that controller , every thing adds up , the technology in that controller as well , the nfc or some thing , and how about the fact instead of 512mb like 360 has it has 2 gigs 1 for os 1 gig for gaming , thats double the ram for gaming use , and they may be able to free up some more later on ,

people said oh its not a next gen well double the ram proves its next gen , believe it or not , and you can bet by next year they will be profiting off hardware as hardware gets cheaper!

just like they took a loss on the 3ds at the start they are now profiting off of it ,

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[QUOTE="Giancar"] a penalty for praising consoles that had great third party support? And that had proper online systems? Heck their library DESTROYED the Wii's one and it is a penalty...Gamers should go where the games go. And this gen, the Wii was not the road. (compared to the competition) I'll do the same next gen and praise the system, the one(s) that gets the better games not the brand, to the hell and back :DGiancar

How f*cking expensive is that controller?jg4xchamp

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]How f*cking expensive is that controller?DarkLink77

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]How f*cking expensive is that controller?jg4xchamp

That's bad - when you can't sell weak hardware at a profit, you know you're doing it wrong ...

I'm sure it is just the initial start up cost of manufacturing the console and a mix of exchange rate inflation. That console does NOT cost the amount Nintendo is pricing it or more. Nintendo is making a net profit per console sale.ShadowDeathX

This is what I'm thinking. Isolate the actual bill of materials and it's something around $200.

So Nintendo is going to have a one bad year from all the losses on the Wii-U.

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]I'm sure it is just the initial start up cost of manufacturing the console and a mix of exchange rate inflation. That console does NOT cost the amount Nintendo is pricing it or more. Nintendo is making a net profit per console sale.gamecubepad

This is what I'm thinking. Isolate the actual bill of materials and it's something around $200.

But you are forgetting Marketing, materials, etc.

[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]This is the penalty for praising Sony/MS last gen. Nextbox and PS4 will be severely underwhelming relative to the expectations of the average SW users OR Sony/MS will loose lots of money/marketshare by making their systems beasts.

The end.

Giancar

Uhm I was talking about the hardware itself.

You praise the level of horsepower & other hw functions.

PS3's software library would have been just as good even if PS3 was much weaker.

PS4 is fcked, hardware wise. It's just not gonna be able to output next gen engines at 1080p = huge disappointment for SW. The alternative is to have a beast console, but it won't sell well cus Sony needs to stay profitable day 1.

Is this a first for Nintendo?Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="Zen_Light"]You won't be able to hide behind the "third party support" next gen, since Wii U has caught up in the tech department. The other poster is absolutely right because the scenario he painted means Sony and Microsoft are "damned if they do, and damned if they don't", but less damned if they don't release over-expensive beasts that will end up like the Vita.dobzilian

have been just as good even if PS3 was much weaker.

PSuperFlakeman

[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"] have been just as good even if PS3 was much weaker.

PGiancar

Who said Wii? What about PS1 and PS2, for their time? Were they $800+ consoles, like PS3? Nope.

MS also sold 360 at a loss.That's why the price/performance "was perfect", duh.

Anyway the point is, Sony won't be able to sell at a loss this time around, so the play field is leveled.

Both Nintendo and Sony have to deal with the same currency exchange rate issue too.

MS has a massive advantage because a) they can sell at a loss and b) they don't have to deal with the currency problem. That's why I keep them out from the discussion.

But for Sony, it's either be weak to sell well, or a beast but again loosing out on marketshare.

Bumb this. What abunch of lies, this abomination cant be sold at a loss, pennypinched museum hardware, 480p single touch resistive screen controller (it's not a tablet) no hdd, made by kids in china LMAO at this thing

Apparently, once they sell one game, they've made a profit.

Apparently, once they sell one game, they've made a profit.

DarkLink77

100% correct.

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Apparently, once they sell one game, they've made a profit.

DontGetBigIdeas

100% correct.