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#1  Edited By outworld222
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"Nintendo will have to abandon Hardware" Says Patcher.

http://www.gamerevolution.com/news/nintendo-will-have-to-abandon-hardware-says-pachter-28171

So is this a realistic and thoughtful thing Patcher said? I don't know. It sounds like another prediction that's doomed to fail. Sega stopped making consoles, but that's an entirely different story.

Hm, has Patcher ever been right before?? Have any of his predictions come true?? Because he says that Nintendo is more than 10 years behind console trends. I don't know.

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A troubling, shocking, deeply disturbing turn of events.

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Is there anyone the guy hasn't upset at some time or another?

He's good for something though, If Patcher says 'x' is going to happen all you need to do is the exact opposite and you'll score.

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#5 wolverine4262
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I see no insult.

Also, "Patcher"?

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#6 Telekill
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At this point, I don't care about Nintendo anymore. They used to be my solid secondary console of choice but since they went all motion control crazy, I haven't cared for them.

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#7  Edited By outworld222
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@getyeryayasout said:

Where did he insult Nintendo fans?

I was just quoting from the article....I guess nowhere.

@uninspiredcup said:

A troubling, shocking, deeply disturbing turn of events.

Well, he could have a point or he could be wrong. Would you please make a more coherent point? I'd appreciate it.

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#8 Couth_
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truth hurts

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@Couth_ said:

truth hurts

the wiimote was a great hardware idea by nintendo....sony and xbox were in shock...

they have it in them to make great hardware.

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#10 Mr-Powers
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I think they can survive off of handheld gaming alone, but it'll be a shame to not see their talents being pushed to the max on a console.

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#11  Edited By outworld222
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@mr-powers said:

I think they can survive off of handheld gaming alone, but it'll be a shame to not see their talents being pushed to the max on a console.

They're really trying to make sure the WiiU is a success by trying to release as many quality games as possible. That's the way I see it. They don't want to discontinue the console, but add more quality things into the system. Not just games (i.e Mario Maker)

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#12  Edited By PikachuDude860
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Nah, they'll be fine. Just wait untill next gen and make a more powerful console. Just as good as the competition, if not better.

Wii U can survive, or at least last, on exclusives until then. Enough to be profitable for Nintendo.

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While I see that as a possibility, it's not something they need to do in the immediate future, I'd even say they have at least another console generation to look forward to.

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I think Nintendos model is on the way back. He states that Nintendo is ten years behind the curve, but the curve is already half way down the shitter. Even though sales say otherwise, it is the xbox and playstation models that are on the way out. The younger crowd will grow up and see all the bullshit these companies throw around. First on, only on, best on, exclusive content, timed exclusive, day one dlc, subscriptions, subscriptions upon subscriptions, hd remakes, etc. That train of marketing is on the way. Nobody wants that. "The most advanced hardware on the planet?" Money will pay developers to make some show stopping, best visual games, but that will only last for X amount of time before it is the content that matters.

Ironic how people said, and continue to say, that the wiiu is garbage yet it is the only console that has released great games, shows more great games and releases these games, and then shows what is on the horizon. They don't give these ball fondling answers like Sony and Microsoft.

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#17  Edited By outworld222
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@Desmonic said:

.........So, Nintendo to obliterate next-gen am confirmed?

Dat Patcher curse!

Ha.

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#18  Edited By schu
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pc + nintendo console = the only way to go

I'd be happy to buy Nintendo peripherals if they want to go PC only. Hook up with steam and provide some gimmicky devices. I'll buy them if they are amusing enough.

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@Heirren: You sound butthurt and a bit delusional. Kids will see through there bullshit? Really? What about Nintendo the company that is content with releasing consoles that are about 6 years behind the competition. Its hard to say the Playstation is on the way out when its the fastest selling console "EVER". Nintendo makes great games they always have but there hardware sucks . Sony has loads of quality exclusives coming and when you factor in third party support the PS4s library will stomp all over the Wii Us by the beginning of next year. The Xbox brand has been regulated to a PC port box yet again but at least the hardware isnt a complete laughing stock.

I think its funny Nintendo fans get so mad about the posibility that they may not make hardware forever. It could be a disaster if they focuesed on Mobile phones and tablets. But imagine what a new Zelda or Metroid would be like on the PS4 without the contraints of hardware that should have been released in 2005.

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@AM-Gamer said:

@Heirren: You sound butthurt and a bit delusional. Kids will see through there bullshit? Really? What about Nintendo the company that is content with releasing consoles that are about 6 years behind the competition. Its hard to say the Playstation is on the way out when its the fastest selling console "EVER". Nintendo makes great games they always have but there hardware sucks . Sony has loads of quality exclusives coming and when you factor in third party support the PS4s library will stomp all over the Wii Us by the beginning of next year. The Xbox brand has been regulated to a PC port box yet again but at least the hardware isnt a complete laughing stock.

I think its funny Nintendo fans get so mad about the posibility that they may not make hardware forever. It could be a disaster if they focuesed on Mobile phones and tablets. But imagine what a new Zelda or Metroid would be like on the PS4 without the contraints of hardware that should have been released in 2005.

Nintendo should just go steam exclusive and wreck ps4 and xtrash

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#21  Edited By General_Solo76
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Patcher says alot of things..........none of which have ever been right.

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#22 outworld222
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@general_solo76 said:

Patcher says alot of things..........none of which have ever been right.

/Thread.

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#23  Edited By Couth_
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@Heirren said:

Ironic how people said, and continue to say, that the wiiu is garbage yet it is the only console that has released great games, shows more great games and releases these games, and then shows what is on the horizon. They don't give these ball fondling answers like Sony and Microsoft.

This is horse crap. wii u is not the only console with games. its the only consoles with exclusive games - and that's all the morons on SW cares about.

But in the real world, third parties drive the industry. third parties are what made gaming mainsteam. The playstation made gaming mainstream, then the ps2 after that and the highest selling games were third party.. it was third parties that drove those systems and continue to drive the industry, selling 10-20-30 million copies per game and reaching many audiences... aside from the wii gimmick, nintendo consoles have always sold like crap - 20-30 million only for the n64, gc and even less for the wii u... it is time they wake up because their games could be some of those 20 million sellers if they put them on better hardware

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@general_solo76 said:

Patcher says alot of things..........none of which have ever been right.

He's the Nostradamus of Fantasy Land.

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#25 Couth_
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@outworld222 said:

@general_solo76 said:

Patcher says alot of things..........none of which have ever been right.

/Thread.

lol at /threading your own thread

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Please get the guy's damn name right TC.

And lol Pachter.

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@AM-Gamer said:

@Heirren: You sound butthurt and a bit delusional. Kids will see through there bullshit? Really? What about Nintendo the company that is content with releasing consoles that are about 6 years behind the competition. Its hard to say the Playstation is on the way out when its the fastest selling console "EVER". Nintendo makes great games they always have but there hardware sucks . Sony has loads of quality exclusives coming and when you factor in third party support the PS4s library will stomp all over the Wii Us by the beginning of next year. The Xbox brand has been regulated to a PC port box yet again but at least the hardware isnt a complete laughing stock.

I think its funny Nintendo fans get so mad about the posibility that they may not make hardware forever. It could be a disaster if they focuesed on Mobile phones and tablets. But imagine what a new Zelda or Metroid would be like on the PS4 without the contraints of hardware that should have been released in 2005.

A new Metroid on Dual Analogs? YUCK. Pointer Controls for FPS Metroid or GTFO

On topic, Well, Pachter said it so Nintendo will be fine confirmed

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#28 Willy105
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Nintendo always has many different possible roads to choose from; Patcher always likes to talk about the road that goes into the wall.

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@AM-Gamer said:

@Heirren: You sound butthurt and a bit delusional. Kids will see through there bullshit? Really? What about Nintendo the company that is content with releasing consoles that are about 6 years behind the competition. Its hard to say the Playstation is on the way out when its the fastest selling console "EVER". Nintendo makes great games they always have but there hardware sucks . Sony has loads of quality exclusives coming and when you factor in third party support the PS4s library will stomp all over the Wii Us by the beginning of next year. The Xbox brand has been regulated to a PC port box yet again but at least the hardware isnt a complete laughing stock.

I think its funny Nintendo fans get so mad about the posibility that they may not make hardware forever. It could be a disaster if they focuesed on Mobile phones and tablets. But imagine what a new Zelda or Metroid would be like on the PS4 without the contraints of hardware that should have been released in 2005.

Not butthurt at all. I've got a ps4. Was hyped for it like a lot of other people. It is the worst console I've ever owned. It really isn't even a game console anymore. It is just a pc in a small box. The games are drmd. The physical discs aren't even really physical discs, but more like authorization codes. What people seem to forget is that Nintendo has been in business for a REALLY long time AS A GAMES COMPANY. This is what they survive on. Pull up earnings over the last 20 years. Let's see which company made the most money. Let's look at which company(division) has the most money in the bank. Of all the console manufacturers out there it is Nintendo that is MOST LIKELY to continue developing hardware. Their hardware and software development is really just one thing. Releasing their own hardware allows them to keep quality up.

Because Nintendo is strictly a games company, releasing a really high spec console at a loss at this current time--with how wii slightly diminished the brand in some eyes--would have been very risky.

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#30 superbuuman
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ah Pachter never fail to stir shit up..so means Nintendo will make better hardware confirmed! :P

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@schu said:

@AM-Gamer said:

@Heirren: You sound butthurt and a bit delusional. Kids will see through there bullshit? Really? What about Nintendo the company that is content with releasing consoles that are about 6 years behind the competition. Its hard to say the Playstation is on the way out when its the fastest selling console "EVER". Nintendo makes great games they always have but there hardware sucks . Sony has loads of quality exclusives coming and when you factor in third party support the PS4s library will stomp all over the Wii Us by the beginning of next year. The Xbox brand has been regulated to a PC port box yet again but at least the hardware isnt a complete laughing stock.

I think its funny Nintendo fans get so mad about the posibility that they may not make hardware forever. It could be a disaster if they focuesed on Mobile phones and tablets. But imagine what a new Zelda or Metroid would be like on the PS4 without the contraints of hardware that should have been released in 2005.

Nintendo should just go steam exclusive and wreck ps4 and xtrash

Their games have low requirements, this would absolutely destroy ps4 and xbone considering how many more players and sales PC gets than those 2 combined.

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#32 Lulu_Lulu
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Perhaps if they became more of a Marketplace like steam then yeah sure.... Every open platform would benefit greatly from this.

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#33  Edited By SakusEnvoy
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Nah, Nintendo just needs to combine their handheld and console together into one product. The successor to the New 3DS should be at least 720p and playable on the big screen.

No one really buys Nintendo systems for power anymore (just the opposite of Sony systems), so the fact that they still make home consoles at all is honestly a bit redundant. That said, the 3DS is far too low resolution to be an effective games console even if the games were playable on TV. With the Tegra K1 mobile graphics have finally caught up to last gen systems, so Nintendo should have no problem integrating a Wii U-level chip into their next portable system.

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#34  Edited By LegatoSkyheart
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Gamers are already treating Nintendo as 3rd party.

Buying their consoles ONLY for the 1st party and buying everything else on other systems.

Nintendo fans are fine with this BTW. ("Oh Arkham Knight not on WiiU? GoooD thing Its on Steam!"

"No Assassin's creed? Good thing I own a PS4")

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Can't wait! It'll be great when I can get Nintendo games on PS4/Steam and not need to be buying a shitty broken last gen console with no games barring 1st party.

Sooner the better :)

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#36  Edited By KBFloYd
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@locopatho said:

Can't wait! It'll be great when I can get Nintendo games on PS4/Steam and not need to be buying a shitty broken last gen console with no games barring 1st party.

Sooner the better :)

lol if sony doesnt go out of business and xbox starts selling.

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@KBFloYd said:

@locopatho said:

Can't wait! It'll be great when I can get Nintendo games on PS4/Steam and not need to be buying a shitty broken last gen console with no games barring 1st party.

Sooner the better :)

lol if sony doesnt go ut of business and xbox starts selling.

Yeah how will Sony manage, the PS4 is ONLY the fastest selling console EVER! Hahaha. And Xbox? Who gives a shit?

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#38  Edited By Cloud_imperium
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Lol pachter .

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@locopatho said:

@KBFloYd said:

@locopatho said:

Can't wait! It'll be great when I can get Nintendo games on PS4/Steam and not need to be buying a shitty broken last gen console with no games barring 1st party.

Sooner the better :)

lol if sony doesnt go ut of business and xbox starts selling.

Yeah how will Sony manage, the PS4 is ONLY the fastest selling console EVER! Hahaha. And Xbox? Who gives a shit?

Sony as a whole has been in trouble. They must be privately funded somehow. Perhaps something to do with design patents....i don't know.

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#40 locopatho
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@Heirren said:

@locopatho said:

@KBFloYd said:

@locopatho said:

Can't wait! It'll be great when I can get Nintendo games on PS4/Steam and not need to be buying a shitty broken last gen console with no games barring 1st party.

Sooner the better :)

lol if sony doesnt go ut of business and xbox starts selling.

Yeah how will Sony manage, the PS4 is ONLY the fastest selling console EVER! Hahaha. And Xbox? Who gives a shit?

Sony as a whole has been in trouble. They must be privately funded somehow. Perhaps something to do with design patents....i don't know.

Sure but the PS4 is an amazing success already, it's not going to die. Even if it had to be spun off as a separate business (unlikely). When companies go out of business, that doesn't mean their valuable assets die.

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#41 bunchanumbers
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Sony and MS will end up being streaming services before long, and their services will be on Nintendo's consoles. Pachter got it wrong. Nintendo will have the last console standing.

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#42  Edited By drummerdave9099
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If the quality of software remains intact, Nintendo should stop making hardware and go multiplat.

Seriously, this would save me hundreds of dollars, then I'd only have to buy one console.

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@locopatho said:

@Heirren said:

@locopatho said:

@KBFloYd said:

@locopatho said:

Can't wait! It'll be great when I can get Nintendo games on PS4/Steam and not need to be buying a shitty broken last gen console with no games barring 1st party.

Sooner the better :)

lol if sony doesnt go ut of business and xbox starts selling.

Yeah how will Sony manage, the PS4 is ONLY the fastest selling console EVER! Hahaha. And Xbox? Who gives a shit?

Sony as a whole has been in trouble. They must be privately funded somehow. Perhaps something to do with design patents....i don't know.

Sure but the PS4 is an amazing success already, it's not going to die. Even if it had to be spun off as a separate business (unlikely). When companies go out of business, that doesn't mean their valuable assets die.

Off of hype. I know it is doing well. I bought one. However, it is really rolling off the radar with everyone I know. Nobody gives a shit. It makes more sense to build a pc and get a wiiu. I think people will do this as well.

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#44  Edited By madsnakehhh
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@schu said:

pc + nintendo console = the only way to go

Yep, pretty much this, right now there isn't that many reasons to get a PS4 or an Xbox One, specially not after most third parties are going PC too, look at MGS5, arguably the biggest third party franchise, sure, PS4 will have some amazing exclusives, mostly by Naugthy Dog, but as of now, i'm extremely happy with my PC+WiiU+PS3.

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You know, I wouldn't mind if they went software and handheld only. But only if MS and Sony let Nintendo develop their own games without making changes to them.

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#46  Edited By locopatho
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@Heirren said:

Off of hype. I know it is doing well. I bought one. However, it is really rolling off the radar with everyone I know. Nobody gives a shit. It makes more sense to build a pc and get a wiiu. I think people will do this as well.

Makes zero sense. Over 10 million people give a shit, and that's WITHOUT system sellers. It's the most popular console ever, that ain't changing sunshine. I don't own one yet, waiting for Destiny, but it's clearly a beast.

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#47 tubbyc
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I don't know. VR could open up possibilities for new kinds of games, and Nintendo may see some opportunity there when/if the time is right. They have expressed interest in VR before, I mean, long after Virtual Boy which was way before VR tech was ready.

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@outworld222 said:
Hm, has Patcher ever been right before??

Yes... to a degree.

Almost everything he says comes true... just the opposite of what he says. He says "Wii U will fail" then the Wii U will succeed.

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#50 gamecubepad
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Nintendo has leadership issues. Once that is remedied all will be well.