Nintendo will never have a great series like GTA or Call of Duty on its consoles

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#1 ChiefFreeman
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...because they ignore the hardcore market, and have complete disregard for big name franchises that are FAR superior to their own paltry first party offerings. Another Mario sports game? yawn. Another ported Ps2/Dreamcast game that came out months or years ago? yawn. Instead, we are going to make an exercise game with an overpriced step board. Ridiculous, and Wii fit is going to bomb badly over here. It's easy to be a cash cow, and ignore the true gaming market.

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#2 nyoroism
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Yeah man Wii fit and Mario sports, that's all Nintendo is!!
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#3 travt-down
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Unless of courese you forget two things. Metroid Prime, and the fact that GTA is the biggest casual franchise ever.
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#4 JakeTD21
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Yeah man Wii fit and Mario sports, that's all Nintendo is!!nyoroism

HEY!! Don't forget Mario Party.

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...because they ignore the hardcore market, and have complete disregard for big name franchises that are FAR superior to their own paltry first party offerings. Another Mario sports game? yawn. Another ported Ps2/Dreamcast game that came out months or years ago? yawn. Instead, we are going to make an exercise game with an overpriced step board. Ridiculous, and Wii fit is going to bomb badly over here. It's easy to be a cash cow, and ignore the true gaming market.

ChiefFreeman


LOl @ gta and call of duty are hardcore games
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#7 nyoroism
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[QUOTE="nyoroism"]Yeah man Wii fit and Mario sports, that's all Nintendo is!!JakeTD21

HEY!! Don't forget Mario Party.

Hey man where I come from partying IS a sport.
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#8 whocares4peace
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You were saying?

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...because they ignore the hardcore market, and have complete disregard for big name franchises that are FAR superior to their own paltry first party offerings.

ChiefFreeman


If you don't find Zelda or Metroid "hardcore," but find GTA and Call of Duty hardcore, something is wrong with you. Those are two of the biggest "casual"-hit series of the last few years (GTA since GTAIII, CoD since it came to consoles).

Nintendo's second party is where they shine. Retro, Intelligent Systems, and Camelot are excellent. The first party innovates old franchises (using the same name and characters, but usually changing the gameplay a bit: look at Galaxy).


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#10 ChiefFreeman
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Call of duty 3 is awful on the Wii.
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#11 Fireball2500
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Call of Duty 3 was actually on the Wii's launch, but it was crap.

But really, no GTA will at least close the gap between the Wii's sales and PS3/360's, that's why PS2 sold so well, it had GTA as a timed exclusive.

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#12 travt-down
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I got a good lol out of that 1.0 you gave Brawl. You set a new standard in true unbiased opinions.
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#13 nyoroism
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Call of duty 3 is awful on the Wii.ChiefFreeman
Remind me again why that's Nintendo's fault.
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#14 Pure_Awesome
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huh, nintendo has Zelda, Mario and Metroid.?
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#15 St_muscat
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Um hasn't call of duty 5 been confirmed for Wii as well as the PS3, 360, PC and PS2's verisons? Also wouldn' be surprized if down the track if the Wii is still really selling likke hot cakes is now say 40 million hardware sales ahead of second then I think we might see a GTA or at least port of a GTA game on the Wii.
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#16 Lunar52
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I guess you have never heard of Mario Series, Legend of Zelda series, Metroid series, Smash Bros. series, etc. Nintendo is more than minigames and sports games. I am not a Nintendo fanboy as I also like 360.
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#17 Cyber-
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omg the anti wii forums are getting more stupid by the minute
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#18 BioShockOwnz
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Good! COD is overrated and overappreciated!
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You were saying?

whocares4peace

yea you have fun with your cod3 ill be playing on a fully functioning online service with cod 4

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#20 Lunar52
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omg the anti wii forums are getting more stupid by the minuteCyber-


That pretty much sums up System Wars.
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#21 Cyber-
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[QUOTE="whocares4peace"]


You were saying?

ps3wizard45

yea you have fun with your cod3 ill be playing on a fully functioning online service with cod 4

yes and thats nintendo's fault that acitivision made a bad port? Instead of getting mad at the Wii or Nintendo why dont you place the blame where it should be, with the company that made the game.

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#22 Mitazaki
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call of duty is a great series but gta is the most over rated series ever. its so stupid how you can blow up a car by shooting the tires or windows. now i dont know if they fixed that in gta 4 an dont really care as its still a boring and over rated series more over rated than halo and thats saying alot :P
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#23 Micropixel
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Define "hardcore?"

I've really gotta hear this one...

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#24 Sir_BIGnuts
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There hasn't been even a semi-hardcore CoD since the first one, which not so coincidentilly was a PC exclusive. They dumbed down the series beyond belief.
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It's always the same respnse from you sheep. " We have Zelda, Mario, Metroid". Wow. What else? I can hear the crickets chirping. The third party titles are nearly nonexistant - at least good third titles. Nintendites are like broken records, naming those same three franchises every time someone tells them the truth about the pitiful compilation of games on the wii. then they go on to state how well it's selling. Yes, its easy to sell a system predominantly played by senior citizens and 5 year olds. Also, if you want to name a console that was really innovative, look at the Sega Dreamcast. It bombed, but did all the thnigs the Wii did 7 years prior, including - to some extent - motion controls with the maracas and fishing pole controller.

So, the Wii is: underpowered, not very innovative, has a sorry assortment of games compared to its cometitors, and it's a cash cow that people stop playing after a few months that collects dust.

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#26 Hewkii
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Call of duty 3 is awful on the Wii.ChiefFreeman

so? it's part of the franchise. therefore your point is wrong.

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#27 JosamaBinEating
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GTA games always seemed pretty casual to me. Maybe GTAIV is a little more serious, but every GTA up until now has been a fun, silly, easy to pick up type of game.
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#28 Mitazaki
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It's always the same respnse from you sheep. " We have Zelda, Mario, Metroid". Wow. What else? I can hear the crickets chirping. The third party titles are nearly nonexistant - at least good third titles. Nintendites are like broken records, naming those same three franchises every time someone tells them the truth about the pitiful compilation of games on the wii. then they go on to state how well it's selling. Yes, its easy to sell a system predominantly played by senior citizens and 5 year olds. Also, if you want to name a console that was really innovative, look at the Sega Dreamcast. It bombed, but did all the thnigs the Wii did 7 years prior, including - to some extent - motion controls with the maracas and fishing pole controller.

So, the Wii is: underpowered, not very innovative, has a sorry assortment of games compared to its cometitors, and it's a cash cow that people stop playing after a few months that collects dust.

ChiefFreeman

yeah and cows will always bring up gta, mgs, final fantasy and lemenings with halo, geow

wii 4 AAAE ps3 0 AAAE. so if what you sat about wii having a sorry assortment of games compared to its cometitors, then what does that say about ps3?

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It's always the same respnse from you sheep. " We have Zelda, Mario, Metroid". Wow. What else? I can hear the crickets chirping. The third party titles are nearly nonexistant - at least good third titles. Nintendites are like broken records, naming those same three franchises every time someone tells them the truth about the pitiful compilation of games on the wii. then they go on to state how well it's selling. Yes, its easy to sell a system predominantly played by senior citizens and 5 year olds. Also, if you want to name a console that was really innovative, look at the Sega Dreamcast. It bombed, but did all the thnigs the Wii did 7 years prior, including - to some extent - motion controls with the maracas and fishing pole controller.

So, the Wii is: underpowered, not very innovative, has a sorry assortment of games compared to its cometitors, and it's a cash cow that people stop playing after a few months that collects dust.

ChiefFreeman

Its always the same flamebait from the haters, too. You can say whatever you want to say, but you are not going to change any minds. We have read it all and rebuffed enough. The 3rd party devs that try on the Wii are putting out quality games. Nintendo 1st party title are the best in the industry. The Wii is fine. You just hate to be accepted.

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call of duty 3 is on the wii and call of duty 5 will be on the wii as well, however just like any fps's ,theyre best on pc
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Call of duty 3 is awful on the Wii.ChiefFreeman

well i thought you said the call of duty series will never be on wii ??

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Grand Theft Auto

GTA for the GBA
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So, the Wii is: underpowered, not very innovative, has a sorry assortment of games compared to its cometitors, and it's a cash cow that people stop playing after a few months that collects dust.

ChiefFreeman

No. How is the Wii underpowered? Display ratio is the only visual difference. THAT IS IT. What are you smoking?

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...because they ignore the hardcore market, and have complete disregard for big name franchises that are FAR superior to their own paltry first party offerings. Another Mario sports game? yawn. Another ported Ps2/Dreamcast game that came out months or years ago? yawn. Instead, we are going to make an exercise game with an overpriced step board. Ridiculous, and Wii fit is going to bomb badly over here. It's easy to be a cash cow, and ignore the true gaming market.

ChiefFreeman

Let's see, Super Mario Bros is the greatest fanchise in gaming history. It has even outsold GTA. Then you can add Zelda, Donkey Kong, Pokemon, Metroid, SSB and are the Mario Sports games. Yeah, Nintendo doesn't have any BIG NAME FRANCHISES. :roll: There are more casual gamers, then hardcore games. You do know this right? Why do you think the Wii has sold over 22million units in less then 2 yrs, while the PS3 has sold less them 1/2 that amount in the same time period. You know nothing about the gaming industry and how it works.

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#35 nyoroism
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It's always the same respnse from you sheep. " We have Zelda, Mario, Metroid". Wow. What else? I can hear the crickets chirping. The third party titles are nearly nonexistant - at least good third titles. Nintendites are like broken records, naming those same three franchises every time someone tells them the truth about the pitiful compilation of games on the wii. then they go on to state how well it's selling. Yes, its easy to sell a system predominantly played by senior citizens and 5 year olds. Also, if you want to name a console that was really innovative, look at the Sega Dreamcast. It bombed, but did all the thnigs the Wii did 7 years prior, including - to some extent - motion controls with the maracas and fishing pole controller.

So, the Wii is: underpowered, not very innovative, has a sorry assortment of games compared to its cometitors, and it's a cash cow that people stop playing after a few months that collects dust.

ChiefFreeman
I bolded everything that has nothing to do with what you originally said.
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#36 omgburgerking
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Every casual gamer at my high school is a GTA and Call Of Duty:Modern Warfare fan. Those are horrible examples for hardcore games. I have a 6 year old cousin that only talks about GTA a few citys away. Still great games though.

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#37 iam2green
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Grand Theft Auto

GTA for the GBAsherlock99

to bad nintendo never released for gamecube :(

they should bring a series like that.

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#38 MikeE21286
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Call of Duty 5 is coming to Wii no? But I know what you mean......
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[QUOTE="sherlock99"]Grand Theft Auto

GTA for the GBAiam2green

to bad nintendo never released for gamecube :(

they should bring a series like that.

Not nintendo Rockstar didn't release it for the Gamecube, because of the disk limitations...

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#40 Fireball2500
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call of duty 3 is on the wii and call of duty 5 will be on the wii as well, however just like any fps's ,theyre best on pcKakarot00769
Treyard is making COD5, so it should naturally suck.
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#41 -Skeletor-
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I don't care for those games on my Wii when the PC versions blow away the ones on xbox and ps3 regardless.
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#42 Homesrfan
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They will never...

ever...

have a hardcore...

game...

on their...

system...

Oh and not mention...

TEH KIDDY!

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#43 LordQuorthon
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Define "hardcore?"

I've really gotta hear this one...

Micropixel

Easy: No primary colors. :p

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#44 GundamGuy0
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They will never...

ever...

have a hardcore...

game...

on their...

system...

Oh and not mention...

TEH KIDDY!

Homesrfan

You forgot Star Fox, Eternal Darkness and Giest...

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#45 blahzor
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Call of Duty 4 was on the DS.

GTA has been on the GameBoy.

It has nothing to do with nintendo ignoring the "core" market, and everything to do with stubborn 3rd party developers/publishers believing that wii 3rd party games won't sell. They belive there is no market on the nintendo machines.

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#46 Homesrfan
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Just sayin... ;)

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Call of duty 3 is awful on the Wii.ChiefFreeman

But that wasn';t your statement, your statement was that it'll never be on the Wii :|
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[QUOTE="ChiefFreeman"]Call of duty 3 is awful on the Wii.nyoroism
Remind me again why that's Nintendo's fault.

And the game wasn't crap. Yeah it has a few flaws but it wasn't bad. At least it was still very fun.

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#49 cod4ownzzz
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[QUOTE="ChiefFreeman"]Call of duty 3 is awful on the Wii.darkslider99

But that wasn';t your statement, your statement was that it'll never be on the Wii :|

I cant actually see the title of this thread, but i believe he said cod4. The difference beween 3 and 4 is like night and day. Cod4 is the best game to ever grace any console. Until Tuesday. Cod5 will also suck by the way, the proof is that it will be on the Wiii

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#50 JayPee89
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Unless of courese you forget two things. Metroid Prime, and the fact that GTA is the biggest casual franchise ever.travt-down
Yeah, but that doesn't change the fact that it is better than anytthing else on the market.