Nintendo's Right On Time, Sony and Microsoft Are Late

Console makers knew a long time ago that because of how fast the rate of technology advanced Consoles should have a 5 year shelf life max.

So if Nintendo did release there next console in November of 2011 or early 2012, they are exactly 5 years from the original release date of the Wii, which i believe was November of 2006.

The difference is they didn't go crazy with hi-tech hardware with the Wii and they still won out in sales, now there going to take that revenue and go all the way, and load up Project Cafe with super specs, a touch screen controller, better multiplayer and new online software.

Nintendo will most likely put the new consoles specs just ahead of PS3 and 360's specs, just to give it a slight edge but, still affordable enough to mass produce with a nice profit and yet without eating through there wallets.

Actually when you think about it Nintendo is the only company not trying to bleed your wallets dry with new incarnations of the old hardware, unlike Microsoft and Sony, c'mon think about it, how many different models of 360 and PS3 have there been since there release in 2005 and 2006 ?.

Multiple size hard drives, different chipsets to prevent RROD, slimmer models, a bunch of late accessories, ala' Kinect and Move.

Nintendo just put out the Wii, with a few control accessories, and later a black Wii and that was it, there not trying to take advantage and trying to use the same old hardware to death, there putting out a whole new console for Nintendo fans to enjoy.

I for one am looking forward to it.

nintendo is awesome.

actually. the reason why microsoft and sony are "behind" is because they are lazy. Its easier to just sit back on fat butts, wait for someone else to come up with a new idea, and copy it with little variations NintendoNite

Isnt this kind of what everyone here was saying about NIN? WHen they came out with the Wii/Gamecube? They were too lazy and cheap to do anything to compete with SOny and MS so they just basically stuck with last gen hardware..right??

Not complaining as I have a Wii and I have all 3 systems this gen..Just kind of the pot calling the kettle black..

[QUOTE="NintendoNite"]actually. the reason why microsoft and sony are "behind" is because they are lazy. Its easier to just sit back on fat butts, wait for someone else to come up with a new idea, and copy it with little variations VanDammFan

Isnt this kind of what everyone here was saying about NIN? WHen they came out with the Wii/Gamecube? They were too lazy and cheap to do anything to compete with SOny and MS so they just basically stuck with last gen hardware..right??

Not complaining as I have a Wii and I have all 3 systems this gen..Just kind of the pot calling the kettle black..

Nintendo are hardly right on time. The Wii is an overpowered GC. It was the only system that people have been consistently asking for an HD upgrade for. The 360 and PS3 are still relevant enough in power to provide great experiences. Not cutting edge, but certainly capable enough to run games like Crysis 2.

Nintendo are hardly right on time. The Wii is an overpowered GC. It was the only system that people have been consistently asking for an HD upgrade for. The 360 and PS3 are still relevant enough in power to provide great experiences. Not cutting edge, but certainly capable enough to run games like Crysis 2.

NeonNinja

But Yet they never released an HD version, why ? because all those Wii owners that had HD TV's would've been forced to trade in there old Wii's and shell out more money for an HD Wii, but Nintendo doesn't take advantage of there fans like that.

They just kept the Wii fun and entertaining with what they had to work with for as long as they could and now Nintendo fans get treated to an entirely new Nintendo console, which is supposed to be completely backwards compatible with Wii....can't ask for more than that.

[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

[QUOTE="NintendoNite"]actually. the reason why microsoft and sony are "behind" is because they are lazy. Its easier to just sit back on fat butts, wait for someone else to come up with a new idea, and copy it with little variations NintendoNite

Isnt this kind of what everyone here was saying about NIN? WHen they came out with the Wii/Gamecube? They were too lazy and cheap to do anything to compete with SOny and MS so they just basically stuck with last gen hardware..right??

Not complaining as I have a Wii and I have all 3 systems this gen..Just kind of the pot calling the kettle black..

just read bro..i used small words..you should be able to decode it..:)..night...cant wait to read the reply in the morning..PEACEOUT!!

[QUOTE="NintendoNite"][QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

Isnt this kind of what everyone here was saying about NIN? WHen they came out with the Wii/Gamecube? They were too lazy and cheap to do anything to compete with SOny and MS so they just basically stuck with last gen hardware..right??

Not complaining as I have a Wii and I have all 3 systems this gen..Just kind of the pot calling the kettle black..

VanDammFan

just read bro..i used small words..you should be able to decode it..:)..night...cant wait to read the reply in the morning..PEACEOUT!!

get yo aaaaaaaass off my property

nintendo is awesome.

FatCatPatRat

Rather doubt that Nintendo cares about not bleeding peoples wallets. Look at their handheld market they make multiple sku. All they did catch Sony MS of guard. Sony & MS both tried to make the best systems possible even at a rather large loss. Nintendo knew they could not compete in this way so they tried different angle and it worked out but they can't do that again.metal_zombie

Yeah, Nintendo is making all the right moves right now imo... its like they are being coached by Phil Jackson or something...

It's all part of Nintendo's disruption strategy.

First they release the Wii which is cheaper and make Microsoft and Sony change their strategies by emulating what Nintendo was doing. Now Nintendo is releasing hardware stronger than what the competition had, and along the way they have gained TONS of new gamers who will be loyal to them along with the older, more hardcore long-time base. Now Sony and Microsoft are spinning in circles trying to keep their heads above water while Nintendo dictates what happens next. Bloody brilliant.

So new consoles should have a 5 year lifespan "because of how fast the rate of technology advances", but it's okay that Nintendo probably (according to speculation) will put their console "just ahead of PS3 and 360's specs, just to give it a slight edge"?

Doesn't that mean rather than Microsoft and Sony being behind, they are in fact ahead because they launched such advanced consoles back in 2005? So why should they feel pressured to release new consoles when it is Nintendo that's playing technological catchup?

The idea that Nintendo are infallible is strange, after the Gamecube and the N64. It's the same kind of hubris that made people think the PS3 was a shoe-in for winner.

I think Nintendo are misreading a waning interest in the Wii, for a genuine desire for a new hardware. Unless they do something disruptive again like the Wii's motion controls I'm not sure how well this will play out.

The PS3 and 360 will still be viable platforms in the eyes of developers, publishers and the general public for a considerable time after the launch of a Wii 2, as the tangible noticible benefits of a hardware upgrade to people aren't going to be anywhere near the last generational transition.

And I should note I'm referring not to the people who frequent this forum, or PC gamers who want better AA and particle effects. I'm referring to the general populace who make up the bulk of console sales.

It's all part of Nintendo's disruption strategy.

First they release the Wii which is cheaper and make Microsoft and Sony change their strategies by emulating what Nintendo was doing. Now Nintendo is releasing hardware stronger than what the competition had, and along the way they have gained TONS of new gamers who will be loyal to them along with the older, more hardcore long-time base. Now Sony and Microsoft are spinning in circles trying to keep their heads above water while Nintendo dictates what happens next. Bloody brilliant.

Bigboi500

lol its so true. While id say its more of microsoft that Nintendo is just totally owning right now.. Sure sony came out with the move etc. but they didn't invest themselves 1/10th the amount into it that MS did.. They also didn't completely change almost everything about their console seemingly over night to try and out right copy nintendo in almost every aspect. First it started with the avatars, then the Kinect, and its software... every game was just a direct rip off of a nintendo game, they spent 500 million just to market the freaking thing, and then they put their hardcore fans completely on the back burners, stopped trying to come out with any exciting hardcore software and seem to be doing to them what nintendo was doing at the beginning of the generation.

While everything is going well for microsoft right now, they have almost absolutely nothing to go off of going into the next gen.. They don't know who their fanbase is, they don't know what they really want to do with their console right now or how to appease their hardcore and casual fans at once.. most hardcore 360 fans are still sticking around luckily for them out of convenience.. They hooked us all in at the beginning of the gen. because there was really no other solid outlit for gamers... But if they don't establish an identity, and Sony doesn't completely screw up its systems launch like they did last gen then they are going to be in serious trouble.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

It's all part of Nintendo's disruption strategy.

First they release the Wii which is cheaper and make Microsoft and Sony change their strategies by emulating what Nintendo was doing. Now Nintendo is releasing hardware stronger than what the competition had, and along the way they have gained TONS of new gamers who will be loyal to them along with the older, more hardcore long-time base. Now Sony and Microsoft are spinning in circles trying to keep their heads above water while Nintendo dictates what happens next. Bloody brilliant.

VendettaRed07

lol its so true. While id say its more of microsoft that Nintendo is just totally owning right now.. Sure sony came out with the move etc. but they didn't invest themselves 1/10th the amount into it that MS did.. They also didn't completely change almost everything about their console seemingly over night to try and out right copy nintendo in almost every aspect. First it started with the avatars, then the Kinect, and its software... every game was just a direct rip off of a nintendo game, they spent 500 million just to market the freaking thing, and then they put their hardcore fans completely on the back burners, stopped trying to come out with any exciting hardcore software and seem to be doing to them what nintendo was doing at the beginning of the generation.

While everything is going well for microsoft right now, they have almost absolutely nothing to go off of going into the next gen.. They don't know who their fanbase is, they don't know what they really want to do with their console right now or how to appease their hardcore and casual fans at once.. most hardcore 360 fans are still sticking around luckily for them out of convenience.. They hooked us all in at the beginning of the gen. because there was really no other solid outlit for gamers... But if they don't establish an identity, and Sony doesn't completely screw up its systems launch like they did last gen then they are going to be in serious trouble.

Sony is doing much better now with the PS3. They are locked in for a while with the system though, all the money they spent on the cell and blu ray, the early problems with losing so much money and so on. It will be a while before they can put out the PS4 still.

PS2 is more powerful then wii (cpu) so yeah tech doesn't equal sales or well anything but potential graphics, it has some colleration to gameplay elements but pc devs don't use it, ps3s ones seem to, MSes sure as hell don't and wiis didn't have anything to work with so I guess the games will be the true test like always

Sony's time is longer,

I like that time

I'm glad Nintendo is jumping on that HD thing. Get in there early and own it Ninty, the others will follow soon enough.

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Nintendo are hardly right on time. The Wii is an overpowered GC. It was the only system that people have been consistently asking for an HD upgrade for. The 360 and PS3 are still relevant enough in power to provide great experiences. Not cutting edge, but certainly capable enough to run games like Crysis 2.

Slimmin360

But Yet they never released an HD version, why ? because all those Wii owners that had HD TV's would've been forced to trade in there old Wii's and shell out more money for an HD Wii, but Nintendo doesn't take advantage of there fans like that.

They just kept the Wii fun and entertaining with what they had to work with for as long as they could and now Nintendo fans get treated to an entirely new Nintendo console, which is supposed to be completely backwards compatible with Wii....can't ask for more than that.

WTF?

What exactly do you think this new system is going to be based off of the rumors? An HD system. Who said anything about Nintendo releasing an HD version of the same Wii. I just said people have been clamoring for an HD upgrade. As in a new console with current-gen graphics. Hello!

Yeah, I agree. Nintendo knows what they're doing now and they're making the right choice. When they do release their new console it could force sony and microsoft to release new console to compete.

Its pretty much in the bag that I'll buy Nintys next console. I've owned every one and they've never let me down before.

That said, I think people might be setting themselves up for disappointment. The Sheep are walking the path of the Cow and to the Cows credit they at least get lied to by Sony directly, while Sheep are getting mega hyped over Internet rumors and assumptions.

A lot of these rumors and assumption could come to fruition, but right now we have all these wonderful ideas flying around and not a bit of solid information to support any of it.

Using a television remote to control games ruined any chance I would ever have of even looking at a Wii seriously, if they have an actual video game controller with buttons made for my grown man hands I may check it out.

Its pretty much in the bag that I'll buy Nintys next console. I've owned every one and they've never let me down before.

That said, I think people might be setting themselves up for disappointment. The Sheep are walking the path of the Cow and to the Cows credit they at least get lied to by Sony directly, while Sheep are getting mega hyped over Internet rumors and assumptions.

A lot of these rumors and assumption could come to fruition, but right now we have all these wonderful ideas flying around and not a bit of solid information to support any of it.

sandbox3d

Virtual boy

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

Its pretty much in the bag that I'll buy Nintys next console. I've owned every one and they've never let me down before.

That said, I think people might be setting themselves up for disappointment. The Sheep are walking the path of the Cow and to the Cows credit they at least get lied to by Sony directly, while Sheep are getting mega hyped over Internet rumors and assumptions.

A lot of these rumors and assumption could come to fruition, but right now we have all these wonderful ideas flying around and not a bit of solid information to support any of it.

chrion133

Virtual boy

Cant see what that really has to do with my post, unless you are nit-picking at the fact that I said every console. Most people would gather that I meant NES, SNES, N64, GC and Wii. You know, the main consoles. No need to get into semantics while at the same time ignoring the main point of my post.

So new consoles should have a 5 year lifespan "because of how fast the rate of technology advances", but it's okay that Nintendo probably (according to speculation) will put their console "just ahead of PS3 and 360's specs, just to give it a slight edge"?

Doesn't that mean rather than Microsoft and Sony being behind, they are in fact ahead because they launched such advanced consoles back in 2005? So why should they feel pressured to release new consoles when it is Nintendo that's playing technological catchup?

SakusEnvoy

Um no nintendo is forcing the next generation and with that only hurting the industry this industry does not have room, time, or the health to survive a new generation right now, Technology is moving forward regardless of the economy and bubble that will soon burst. If Sony and Microsoft answer then I think we will see a new video game crash like in the 80's.

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Nintendo are hardly right on time. The Wii is an overpowered GC. It was the only system that people have been consistently asking for an HD upgrade for. The 360 and PS3 are still relevant enough in power to provide great experiences. Not cutting edge, but certainly capable enough to run games like Crysis 2.

Slimmin360

But Yet they never released an HD version, why ? because all those Wii owners that had HD TV's would've been forced to trade in there old Wii's and shell out more money for an HD Wii, but Nintendo doesn't take advantage of there fans like that.

They just kept the Wii fun and entertaining with what they had to work with for as long as they could and now Nintendo fans get treated to an entirely new Nintendo console, which is supposed to be completely backwards compatible with Wii....can't ask for more than that.

Um no nintendo is forcing the next generation and with that only hurting the industry this industry does not have room, time, or the health to survive a new generation right now, Technology is moving forward regardless of the economy and bubble that will soon burst. If Sony and Microsoft answer then I think we will see a new video game crash like in the 80's.

WilliamRLBaker

Console makers knew a long time ago that because of how fast the rate of technology advanced Consoles should have a 5 year shelf life max.

So if Nintendo did release there next console in November of 2011 or early 2012, they are exactly 5 years from the original release date of the Wii, which i believe was November of 2006.

The difference is they didn't go crazy with hi-tech hardware with the Wii and they still won out in sales, now there going to take that revenue and go all the way, and load up Project Cafe with super specs, a touch screen controller, better multiplayer and new online software.

Nintendo will most likely put the new consoles specs just ahead of PS3 and 360's specs, just to give it a slight edge but, still affordable enough to mass produce with a nice profit and yet without eating through there wallets.

Actually when you think about it Nintendo is the only company not trying to bleed your wallets dry with new incarnations of the old hardware, unlike Microsoft and Sony, c'mon think about it, how many different models of 360 and PS3 have there been since there release in 2005 and 2006 ?.

Multiple size hard drives, different chipsets to prevent RROD, slimmer models, a bunch of late accessories, ala' Kinect and Move.

Nintendo just put out the Wii, with a few control accessories, and later a black Wii and that was it, there not trying to take advantage and trying to use the same old hardware to death, there putting out a whole new console for Nintendo fans to enjoy.

I for one am looking forward to it.

Slimmin360

The crazy thing is with two console generations they didn't even outsell the ps2.

The craziest thing is that you ignore everything that would not be available without ps3/360 regarding games.

Console makers knew a long time ago that because of how fast the rate of technology advanced Consoles should have a 5 year shelf life max.

Slimmin360

You can't say "it worked like this in the past so lets keep doing it that way" when the freaking world is changing around you.

If you look at how the industry did business in the PS2 era to how it is now, it's pretty much unrecognizable. You'd die on a vine trying to conduct business on 10 year old trends.

Actually it's because the Wii looked like it was still in the PS2 era

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"]

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Nintendo are hardly right on time. The Wii is an overpowered GC. It was the only system that people have been consistently asking for an HD upgrade for. The 360 and PS3 are still relevant enough in power to provide great experiences. Not cutting edge, but certainly capable enough to run games like Crysis 2.

FFKi11er

But Yet they never released an HD version, why ? because all those Wii owners that had HD TV's would've been forced to trade in there old Wii's and shell out more money for an HD Wii, but Nintendo doesn't take advantage of there fans like that.

They just kept the Wii fun and entertaining with what they had to work with for as long as they could and now Nintendo fans get treated to an entirely new Nintendo console, which is supposed to be completely backwards compatible with Wii....can't ask for more than that.

Console makers knew a long time ago that because of how fast the rate of technology advanced Consoles should have a 5 year shelf life max.

So if Nintendo did release there next console in November of 2011 or early 2012, they are exactly 5 years from the original release date of the Wii, which i believe was November of 2006.

The difference is they didn't go crazy with hi-tech hardware with the Wii and they still won out in sales, now there going to take that revenue and go all the way, and load up Project Cafe with super specs, a touch screen controller, better multiplayer and new online software.

Nintendo will most likely put the new consoles specs just ahead of PS3 and 360's specs, just to give it a slight edge but, still affordable enough to mass produce with a nice profit and yet without eating through there wallets.

Actually when you think about it Nintendo is the only company not trying to bleed your wallets dry with new incarnations of the old hardware, unlike Microsoft and Sony, c'mon think about it, how many different models of 360 and PS3 have there been since there release in 2005 and 2006 ?.

Multiple size hard drives, different chipsets to prevent RROD, slimmer models, a bunch of late accessories, ala' Kinect and Move.

Nintendo just put out the Wii, with a few control accessories, and later a black Wii and that was it, there not trying to take advantage and trying to use the same old hardware to death, there putting out a whole new console for Nintendo fans to enjoy.

I for one am looking forward to it.

Slimmin360

finally some one with with intense common sense, i wasnt the only one who saw this , , face it sony fell from grace, microsoft never made it to grace, lol so why should we expect them to give us more better stuff next gen ,

take it from me ,

nintnedo has been hte only one within the 80 's still around today because they do not rush and when things go bad they dont get desperate like sega did with its genesis , lol

and for the record books nintendo s 10 pieces of hardware did not cost 300 bucks! vs sonys 5 ps1-300 ps2-300 ps3 600 psp 250-the only one not at the 300 dollar mark psp go flop but still 250 ,

microsoft 300 xbox xbox 360 400 no handheld in the market

sega gen? i dont real;ly know about genesis but i know the add-ons costed 400 bucks and the saturn costed 300 the dc 300 ,

so with that line if wii 2 goes to 300 it would be the first to do so , and at the right time to

nintendo has also improved many aspects of gaming through the years ,

starting with its nes, that console had so much potential -and built upon that potential by releasing zapper , rob among other accessories

then snes took nes and made it better made the controller better the graphics better at the same time making new things , like the mouse for mario paint

then n64 they added for the first time -analog control stick remember ps1 didnt have one until 1998 2 yrs after n64 had it out the box also 4 controller ports, it took sony til this gen to finally let users connect 4 controllers right out the box and rumble same story n64 had the rumble pack first before dual shock came out ,

nintendo didnt change much with gamecube this was their only gen i can say they didnt do much for it ,

the wii came out and was an instant hit , and revolutionized gaming by adding motion controls as a standard control scheme , sony and ms just now jumped onto that band wagon

and for the handhelds it doesnt need to be said because the record 14 and 0 shows this , even out selling -psp and will most likely out sell ngp with its 3ds line

thanks to ngps pricing , and batterylife being short as heck !

nintendo is looking to jump into the only thing sony and ms did right and make it cheap for us consumers and adding yet more new ways to control and keeping focus on both the hard core with that gc like pad , and casual with motion and touch screen

nintendo has everything in their hands right now so many people have their doubts of wii 2 because they think ps4 720 will be graphically better ,

but their not looking at how much thats gonna cost by the time they are out wii 2 wil be 3 years old! and if im gonna wait til 2014-15 i might as well wait til 2017 when nintendo comes out with wii 3 ,

cause we all know nintendo always runs 5 yr life cycles there for me wasting 1400 next gen wont be acceptable ,

i am not droping mo ney on a console that will cost 600-700 only for it to be out dated by pc gamin g and then a wii 2 3 yrs later , no thanks

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"]

Console makers knew a long time ago that because of how fast the rate of technology advanced Consoles should have a 5 year shelf life max.

So if Nintendo did release there next console in November of 2011 or early 2012, they are exactly 5 years from the original release date of the Wii, which i believe was November of 2006.

The difference is they didn't go crazy with hi-tech hardware with the Wii and they still won out in sales, now there going to take that revenue and go all the way, and load up Project Cafe with super specs, a touch screen controller, better multiplayer and new online software.

Nintendo will most likely put the new consoles specs just ahead of PS3 and 360's specs, just to give it a slight edge but, still affordable enough to mass produce with a nice profit and yet without eating through there wallets.

Actually when you think about it Nintendo is the only company not trying to bleed your wallets dry with new incarnations of the old hardware, unlike Microsoft and Sony, c'mon think about it, how many different models of 360 and PS3 have there been since there release in 2005 and 2006 ?.

Multiple size hard drives, different chipsets to prevent RROD, slimmer models, a bunch of late accessories, ala' Kinect and Move.

Nintendo just put out the Wii, with a few control accessories, and later a black Wii and that was it, there not trying to take advantage and trying to use the same old hardware to death, there putting out a whole new console for Nintendo fans to enjoy.

I for one am looking forward to it.

AzatiS

Nintendo are hardly right on time. The Wii is an overpowered GC. It was the only system that people have been consistently asking for an HD upgrade for. The 360 and PS3 are still relevant enough in power to provide great experiences. Not cutting edge, but certainly capable enough to run games like Crysis 2.

NeonNinja

Nintendo is about 5 years late for the "hardcore gamers"drakekratos