Nitpicks that ruin games for you

How the hell would you know? You don't even have the GAME!!! Go get the game, download the patch, turn off the cross color reduction filter on your PS3(yes, turning this off also helps reduce lag) THEN tell me it lags. It doesn't, and if it does it's not that much. Not only did they fix the lag problems with the patch, they ALSO fixed the dead zone problems. So trust me... stop playing the demo and go pick up the actual game because you're really missing out.

Messiahbolical-

Anyway, here's the video I watched demonstrating the lag after the patch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUvUGz4VORs

And I was wrong, it wasn't a fix from 4 frames to 3.5 frames. It was a fix from 5 frames to 4 frames.

That's not "Fixed"

Right, button lag. About a 1/2 second delay, talk about minor. I'd rather go play "twitch" shooter in which it's SO easy to aim because the game does it for you, no classes, just cluttered run n gun mess. No teamwork, FTW!:roll:

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"] Uh... you don't even have the game. Buy it first. Trust me, I hated the lag before they patched it now the game is almost perfect.TheElfChild

KZ2's button lag was fixed LONG time ago. for me kz2 is ruined coz of rocket launcher noobs, the aiming is bad but I still enjoy the game with bad aiming but the rocket launchers are just pathetic. Gears 2 multiplayer is ruined coz of matchmaking and lag. Halo 3 and gears 2 have the worst matchmaking coz you cant choose the gametype you want to play. Cod4 had great and really fast matchmaking. gears 2 should have had cod4 type matchmaking

Well, I can't stand Street Fighter 4 because it seems to expect you to have been one of those kids who wasted afternoons playing Street Fighter arcade machines(which I couldn't have been, because, surprisingly, I've yet to see a Street Fighter machine in any of the few arcades that are around) and know how to play beforehand, and because the game seems pretty old even though it's only a month or two old...and I couldn't get into Left 4 Dead either, too repetitive and pointless...run, shoot, run, shoot...uhhh...okay...?

Well, I can't stand Street Fighter 4 because it seems to expect you to have been one of those kids who wasted afternoons playing Street Fighter arcade machines(which I couldn't have been, because, surprisingly, I've yet to see a Street Fighter machine in any of the few arcades that are around) and know how to play beforehand, and because the game seems pretty old even though it's only a month or two old...and I couldn't get into Left 4 Dead either, too repetitive and pointless...run, shoot, run, shoot...uhhh...okay...?

enix165

I think the value of Left 4 Dead weighs heavily on the people you play it with.

My biggest Nit Pick is timers, long timers. It just makes me paranoid even if you have loads of time to do what you want to do. I also can't stand bad dialouge in games with no voice acting. Trying to play Morrowind was awful, it was like huge paragraphs of complete dross from every character you met. There's only so much dry reading I can stand before wanting to either kill myself or something else.

My biggest Nit Pick is timers, long timers. It just makes me paranoid even if you have loads of time to do what you want to do. I also can't stand bad dialouge in games with no voice acting. Trying to play Morrowind was awful, it was like huge paragraphs of complete dross from every character you met. There's only so much dry reading I can stand before wanting to either kill myself or something else.

Ek-Andy

[QUOTE="Ek-Andy"]

My biggest Nit Pick is timers, long timers. It just makes me paranoid even if you have loads of time to do what you want to do. I also can't stand bad dialouge in games with no voice acting. Trying to play Morrowind was awful, it was like huge paragraphs of complete dross from every character you met. There's only so much dry reading I can stand before wanting to either kill myself or something else.

TheElfChild

I wouldn't have minded if they had got the point across quickly, but in Morrowind for the short time I played it I was going to fall asleep if I hadn't stopped. The combat system is also bad. I don't know what people liked about Morrowind actually, the most important elements of the game were heavily flawed. One of the dryest gaming experiences of my life.

[QUOTE="TheElfChild"][QUOTE="Ek-Andy"]

My biggest Nit Pick is timers, long timers. It just makes me paranoid even if you have loads of time to do what you want to do. I also can't stand bad dialouge in games with no voice acting. Trying to play Morrowind was awful, it was like huge paragraphs of complete dross from every character you met. There's only so much dry reading I can stand before wanting to either kill myself or something else.

Ek-Andy

I wouldn't have minded if they had got the point across quickly, but in Morrowind for the short time I played it I was going to fall asleep if I hadn't stopped. The combat system is also bad. I don't know what people liked about Morrowind actually, the most important elements of the game were heavily flawed. One of the dryest gaming experiences of my life.

Unfair checkpoints.

Its completelyunnecessary defeated hords of enemies, then make a simple mistake and have to re-do all the waves of enemies.

My most recent example of this is in heavenly sword, the first encounter with that flying fox guy, on my second runthrough of the game on hell mode, i took out the 3/4 batches of enemies that jump down, then damaged flying fox to the end where you have to do the quick time event - i messed up the quicktime event, the boss restores his health and as im on my last legs he finnishes me off in 5 minutes. Then i realised rather than restarting you at the boss battle you have to take out all his cronies again then defeat him again, things like that realy cheese me off.

And im going to have to have a dig at kz2s controls too, they're are absolutly fine when youve been playing for a while and the game is a blast - but i took a break, played some other games and went back and just couldnt get into it. Im all for them adding the feeling of weight but after lots of contemplation i feel its a bit excessive for my liking. I wish they had done it in a more subtle way, as not to hamper my enjoyment. The game itself is one of, if not the, best fps out.

Right, button lag. About a 1/2 second delay, talk about minor. I'd rather go play "twitch" shooter in which it's SO easy to aim because the game does it for you, no classes, just cluttered run n gun mess. No teamwork, FTW!:roll:

NYrockinlegend

The game hasnt come out yet but.... Final Fantasy XIII.

Game looks phenomenal indeed, but..... you play as a girl....

Yes, I know, EXTREMELY rediculous but Im kinda sexist when it comes to my games :P

Ill be picking it up none the less, itll just bother me..... alot.

The game hasnt come out yet but.... Final Fantasy XIII.

Game looks phenomenal indeed, but..... you play as a girl....

Yes, I know, EXTREMELY rediculous but Im kinda sexist when it comes to my games :P

Ill be picking it up none the less, itll just bother me..... alot.

-Oath

The game hasnt come out yet but.... Final Fantasy XIII.

Game looks phenomenal indeed, but..... you play as a girl....

Yes, I know, EXTREMELY rediculous but Im kinda sexist when it comes to my games :P

Ill be picking it up none the less, itll just bother me..... alot.

-Oath

You can't deny it, you know Lightning looks bad ass. :P

You played as a girl in FFVI with Terra and Celes. :?

Yeah I know, but you get pinned with a bunch of dudes in your party (Sabin, Edgar, Locke) so it kinda evened out for me :P.

IDK, Im weird

You can't deny it, you know Lightning looks bad ass. :P

Indeed she does ;)

Aljosa23

[QUOTE="-Oath"]

The game hasnt come out yet but.... Final Fantasy XIII.

Game looks phenomenal indeed, but..... you play as a girl....

Yes, I know, EXTREMELY rediculous but Im kinda sexist when it comes to my games :P

Ill be picking it up none the less, itll just bother me..... alot.

TheElfChild

Oh god..... thats a road I dont wanna go down again :P

[QUOTE="AlexSays"]Oh great, I was just about to buy Killzone 2. What button lag?Doolz2024

EDIT: after playing KZ2 for a couple of months, then going back to WaW and CoD4, it's safe to say that I'm officially through with KZ2. The controls are simply too unresponsive for me. CoD's are perfect imo :D

It was the exact opposite for me after playing Killzone 2 i could not go back to COD 4. I never did like how easy Cod4 was i could quit then go back and still run over people. Its way to easy for beginners imo as they give you the best weapon in the game first.

Overly long and difficult training modes. They teach you stuff that you don't really need to know, and pretty much force you into overly complicated strategies that aren't as good the ones you've already thought up. If you're forced into those modes, that alone can be enough to make me give up on the game

[QUOTE="enix165"]

Well, I can't stand Street Fighter 4 because it seems to expect you to have been one of those kids who wasted afternoons playing Street Fighter arcade machines(which I couldn't have been, because, surprisingly, I've yet to see a Street Fighter machine in any of the few arcades that are around) and know how to play beforehand, and because the game seems pretty old even though it's only a month or two old...and I couldn't get into Left 4 Dead either, too repetitive and pointless...run, shoot, run, shoot...uhhh...okay...?

TheElfChild

I think the value of Left 4 Dead weighs heavily on the people you play it with.

The game hasnt come out yet but.... Final Fantasy XIII.

Game looks phenomenal indeed, but..... you play as a girl....

Yes, I know, EXTREMELY rediculous but Im kinda sexist when it comes to my games :P

Ill be picking it up none the less, itll just bother me..... alot.

-Oath

Yet you can stomach other Final Fantasy games consisting of girly male lead characters that are complete drama queens half of the game? Lightning is a breath of fresh air....Not to mention that awesome brotha with the baby chocobo living in his' "fro".

honestly, I wouldnt even be giving FF13 the time of day,if Lightning was a male character.

and like Aljosa stated,FF6 (the best FF,IMO) also had female leads.

Yet you can stomach other Final Fantasy games consisting of girly male lead characters that are complete drama queens half of the game?

Who? Zidane? Tidus? Squall? Frionel? Butz? Cloud? Not exactly girly..... Some maybe kinda sensitive, but never feminine.

Lightning is a breath of fresh air....

In your opinion, not mine ;)

and like Aljosa stated,FF6 (the best FF,IMO) also had female leads.

They werent an extreme focal point in the game, the male leads evened it out as they were focused on alot as well.

Kandlegoat

In red

When I feel the game isn't worth the money. It may be a good game but if I don't think it was worth how much I bought it for I get really mad. Hulk mad.

[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]Yet you can stomach other Final Fantasy games consisting of girly male lead characters that are complete drama queens half of the game?

Who? Zidane? Tidus? Squall? Frionel? Butz? Cloud? Not exactly girly..... Some maybe kinda sensitive, but never feminine.

Lightning is a breath of fresh air....

In your opinion, not mine ;)

and like Aljosa stated,FF6 (the best FF,IMO) also had female leads.

They werent an extreme focal point in the game, the male leads evened it out as they were focused on alot as well.

-Oath

In red

umm yeah,I can read.being condecending is awesome eh?

with the exception of Zidane,and "Bartz",all those others were complete drama queens,Squall and Cloud's Brooding around got extremely annoying..and Tidus was a complete crybaby,and not too mention had some of the lamest dialogue in any FF..but hey if you wanna consider that kind of stuff "heartwarming",then by all means.

and funny you left out Vaan..

and there's plenty of cool males Chars in FF13,like the Black guy which I already mentioned.

[QUOTE="-Oath"]

[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]Yet you can stomach other Final Fantasy games consisting of girly male lead characters that are complete drama queens half of the game?

Who? Zidane? Tidus? Squall? Frionel? Butz? Cloud? Not exactly girly..... Some maybe kinda sensitive, but never feminine.

Lightning is a breath of fresh air....

In your opinion, not mine ;)

and like Aljosa stated,FF6 (the best FF,IMO) also had female leads.

They werent an extreme focal point in the game, the male leads evened it out as they were focused on alot as well.

Kandlegoat

In red

umm yeah,I can read.being condecending is awesome eh?

What? You mean the "in red"? You cant leave your post empty, its against the rules and since I posted in your quote I wrote in red in mine, geez.

with the exception of Zidane,and "Bartz",all those others were complete drama queens,Squall and Cloud's Brooding around got extremely annoying..and Tidus was a complete crybaby,and not too mention had some of the lamest dialogue in any FF..but hey if you wanna consider that kind of stuff "heartwarming",then by all means.

Cloud and Squall werent exactly drama queens, they were just real downers. I havent played 10 so I judged Tidus from Dissidia, hes a real fun loving person.

and funny you left out Vaan..

Know whats funnier? I never played 12 :roll:

and there's plenty of cool males Chars in FF13,like the Black guy which I already mentioned.

We know next to nothing about the black fellow, so why is he cool? The chocobo in his fro? The guns? or the fact that he's african american?

In red (sorry if this offends you...?)

[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]

[QUOTE="-Oath"]

In red

-Oath

umm yeah,I can read.being condecending is awesome eh?

What? You mean the "in red"? You cant leave your post empty, its against the rules and since I posted in your quote I wrote in red in mine, geez.

with the exception of Zidane,and "Bartz",all those others were complete drama queens,Squall and Cloud's Brooding around got extremely annoying..and Tidus was a complete crybaby,and not too mention had some of the lamest dialogue in any FF..but hey if you wanna consider that kind of stuff "heartwarming",then by all means.

Cloud and Squall werent exactly drama queens, they were just real downers. I havent played 10 so I judged Tidus from Dissidia, hes a real fun loving person.

and funny you left out Vaan..

Know whats funnier? I never played 12 :roll:

and there's plenty of cool males Chars in FF13,like the Black guy which I already mentioned.

We know next to nothing about the black fellow, so why is he cool? The chocobo in his fro? The guns? or the fact that he's african american?

In red (sorry if this offends you...?)

I didn't know about the whole "quote" rule,so no it don't offend me now..

as for the rest of your post,Fair enough

and all of the above makes the black guy awesome...8)

Tidus is probably my least favourite FF character, his dialogue is borderline stupid. Squall is okay and Vaan isn't too bad except for "that" picture.

Tidus is probably my least favourite FF character, his dialogue is borderline stupid. Squall is okay and Vaan isn't too bad except for "that" picture.

Aljosa23

"Star of The Zanarkand Abes,didnt anyone ever tell you?"

The Temple of the Ocean King ruined Phantom Hourglass for me. It somehow combined so many bad ideas and made PH the first bad Zelda game.

When RPG's slow down a lot (take too long to reach max).
I rather get to max relatively fast in an MMO than have it not end by implementing major grinding.
You wouldn't believe how many games this ruins for me.

The Temple of the Ocean King ruined Phantom Hourglass for me. It somehow combined so many bad ideas and made PH the first bad Zelda game.

789shadow

I really wanted to like Dead Rising, but the time limit and save system ruined it imo :(

[QUOTE="AlexSays"]Oh great, I was just about to buy Killzone 2. What button lag?TheElfChild

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

I beat the game once and had np with lag what i remember, first time i hear about this.

TheElfChild

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0iFiLK8VVw

This video demonstrates it really well. Watch this guy's fingers and how the screen reacts to the button pushes. He also demonstrates the button input time in the XMB as a comparison.

If you don't notice the Button lag, then fine, buy Killzone 2 and enjoy it. For me, it's gamebreaking.

It only happens to certain people, for most people the reason they have no idea what your talking about is because their controls react perfectly. I dont ahve the button lag, i did the same things the guy did in the video and mine reacts perfectly while his is delayed.

Loading times, especially in Odin Sphere where the pacing is ruined. Still a great game.

The vehicle sections in Half Life 2. It took me awhile to get the hang of it. Still a great game.

SSBB online. Still a great game.

Glitches that ruin games and make you restart the gamelike in Prince of Persia Warrior Within.

I cannot stand a racing game with rubber-banding. It makes the entire first three quarters of a race pointless.

When the clothes on someone's back (like a cape) goes through the weapon or item on the character's back.DonPerian

Oh God I hate it when items clip through clothing. I especially hate it in Fable II (Great game though)